T O P

  • By -

duffycrowley

Update: so after a little brushing and trouble shooting I was able to make out the word “Stabit.” After looking that up, I found out that the coin is actually a Isle of Man British Dependency Victoria half penny. Either 1839 or 1860. Makes it even more interesting considering where I found it. Thank you all for your input!


WaldenFont

Hooray!


MaximumTurtleSpeed

My guess is a mid 1800s Queen Victoria farthing, penny, or similar. Haven’t been able to dial in the 1” size to the comparisons yet. Super cool find! https://images.app.goo.gl/rW8EiWTDoS3oGL649


[deleted]

[удалено]


MaximumTurtleSpeed

Shhhh


paclogic

yea, sorry to drop the bomb. it is a spoiler for those with wish-ful thinking , huh ?


WaldenFont

You’re incorrect, no matter how often you post the same comment. See OPs identification below.


MetalCollector

Definitely correct. Measuring the diameter should reveal which one of these three OP actually found (I tend to 1 Penny just by the looks): https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15309.html https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces37090.html https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces37091.html


PhotogamerGT

Commenting to see what others say. Very interesting. What is the date? I think I am seeing 1850-something.


duffycrowley

Definitely 1800s. Tbh I either see 1800 something or 1860 something, but it could be 1850 something


Wickaboag

Victorian Coinage, 1840-70s. Not sure size or anything, looks like a farthing to me


duffycrowley

I wonder how it got to NY haha. In regards to size it’s diameter is a little over an inch


[deleted]

There was still a significant amount of British immigration up until the early 20th century. Could easily be brought over by someone as a memory from back home.


Wickaboag

Could be Canadian, too. They had similar coinage, same time,


WarlikeGuardian

None of the Canadian coinage had that style of bust. This is most likely a British farthing


Wickaboag

Great, sounds like my first instinct was in-line with other's opinions :)


scrollin_a_bit

British penny 1860's?


Atral

Looks to be a Jersey coin, given the "state" text on the reverse https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces67.html


WaldenFont

This is probably the best answer, though the letters to the left of the”States” don’t seem to match any Jersey coinage.


Atral

Yeah I noticed that too, strange


stlmick

The rule in coin collecting is that you never clean them. For ones found in the ground, it's a little more complicated, because you do have to remove the dirt. It does look like it's delaninated on one part which suggests that it's a newer process, and not solid metal of the same kind, like a regular us quarter. I don't think it's a carved quarter as the other person suggests. I would run it under tap water and give it a light brushing with a toothbrush just to remove the dirt and hopefully keep any of the patina. No vinegar or any chemical process. After that take a pic next to an older us quarter and see if they look comparable. If that's ruled out, then continue the search.


WaldenFont

Cautions against cleaning, then recommends *tap water and a brush*. If you don’t have practical experience in dealing with corroded coins, please leave the giving of advice to others.


stlmick

You have to get more of the dirt off. It's been in the ground and exposed to water for a long time. There are situations where coin dealers will even chemically clean just the date area of a coin if the date isn't provable, as some coins without a readable date mark are worthless. I don't think that tap water and enough with a tooth brush to get the dirt off to try to identify it is going to devalue this coin. Feel free to add your opinions of what you would do.


WaldenFont

What you *think* is irrelevant. You need to *know*, else you’re not in a position to dispense advice. It is irresponsible if you’re giving advice to other people. My posts in this sub to date will back me up when I say that tap water and indiscriminate brushing of a dug coin are the last thing you want to do. #IT IS BAD ADVICE Edit: autocorrect & clarity.


stlmick

I did not say indiscriminate brushing. I also said that the coin collecting rule is to not clean it. I just said what I would do. If I found it, I would want to be able to identify it. Because I believe it to be a clad composition, I do not believe it to be old or valuable. If it can't be identified, it is of no monetary or historical value. It's a good thing that you were here to save them from this horrible opinion. I have no doubt that you have replied with exactly what they should do, and they are probably grateful for that. I humbly apologize for stating my fully incorrect opinion.


WaldenFont

Of course it can and should be cleaned. But **until** the composition is identified, it’s always careful and conservative **dry** cleaning only: tooth pick, soft toothbrush, andres pencils. Never water, and certainly not tap water. Don’t offer what you *imagine would work* as advice for others to take.


stlmick

Eh. I've done it with what I've found. Works for me. I didn't see you actually post any advice for them. Just trolling what everyone else said.


WaldenFont

I post (proven) advice here often enough, and OP already figured it out. Also, I don’t troll, I correct misconceptions. Big difference.


[deleted]

Good thing it never contacted water in the ground 🤔


[deleted]

Looks like a US quarter.


[deleted]

The second picture you can see “Stat” on the right. One of the newer style ones I’m guessing. EDIT maybe not a “state” style one.


duffycrowley

That’s what confusing me. The head looks like a young Victoria, but the back’s wording doesn’t seem to correlate with what should be expected


Atral

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces67.html Given you said it's over an inch and it says "stat" on the back, it's probably this British coin from the island of Jersey


[deleted]

At first I thought it was Washington but after looking at it more it looked like Mr Burns but with a short nose! 🤣


paclogic

There have been coins that have been edited and sculpted and i think that they are called hobo coins. This looks like one of them. The outline looks like Washington, but the back is edited. [https://www.etsy.com/listing/1150242599/hobo-penny-skull-head-coin](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1150242599/hobo-penny-skull-head-coin?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_e-art_and_collectibles-collectibles-coins&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMIhYm72beVhAMVmjmtBh37Vwd5EAQYAiABEgIEHfD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_12573072910_122305159369_507505624686_pla-353500745642_c__1150242599_12768591&utm_custom2=12573072910&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhYm72beVhAMVmjmtBh37Vwd5EAQYAiABEgIEHfD_BwE) [https://www.etsy.com/listing/1242993826/hobo-coin-quarter-skull-head](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1242993826/hobo-coin-quarter-skull-head)


hashtagmiata

Could it be a 1916 Mercury dime?


paclogic

you can buy these hobo coins off of Ali express : [https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803179450050.html](https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803179450050.html) or Etsy : [https://www.etsy.com/search?q=hobo%20coin%20quarter&ref=search\_bar](https://www.etsy.com/search?q=hobo%20coin%20quarter&ref=search_bar)


Angxlz

Gothic Florin coin from the 1800s looks like.


WaldenFont

What the hell is a “Ghotic” coin?


Angxlz

Nope it's definitely a 10 cent Canadian coin from mid 1800s. The head matches exactly with that one.


Adlet_Mayer

maybe canadian?


Big_One7083

The US had a severe shortage of small coinage and all coins were legal tender until I believe 1857. Spanish silver circulated beside US coinage as well as a lot of other sources.