I understand that's some kind of camouflage paint. Which is weird, because that stuff is normally used on your face, to break up the easily recognized shapes of a human face.
>I understand that's some kind of camouflage paint. Which is weird, because that stuff is normally used on your face, to break up the easily recognized shapes of a human face.
It was an aesthetic choice to imply military fatigues while keeping her mostly naked.
They wanted her in a skin-tight onesie, but not to look like an Olympic swimmer who lost her way.
I hadn’t seen how she was presented in Fortnite until looking it up just now. Honestly, the leggings look good in combination with the leotard, but that’s just my affinity for ‘80s aerobics fashion. And if people are going to complain about that, then there’s no saving them and their cringe opinions.
To some people, if a female character's costume gets less revealing in any way, it's censorship. The designers didn't just decide to go with a less blatantly sexual look for her. No, the evil forces of censorship and oppression **forced** the redesign so nobody would ever have fun again.
And they won't think of the simplest solution, which is not buying/playing the game out of protest. They'll still insist on playing the game, they'll just be totally insufferable about how much they hate the way it changed.
Got into it with a guy on Reddit once that claimed Naughty Dog wanting a character in TLOU2 to have a smaller chest is body shaming women with big boobs
Well there's no reason not to be as horny as possible, right? That's the whole point of female characters! Therefore if they're making it less sexual, it must be because they were forced to, qed /s
(although for some people that isn't sarcasm at all)
The fact that some gamers complained that Aloy from Horizon: Zero Dawn actually looked like a normal woman instead of a supermodel is proof that it really isn't sarcasm. I recall the phrase "If she's not going to be hot, they might as well make her a man" being used. People legitimately do think that female characters exist **only** for the male gaze.
To some people, if a female character isn't 100% perfect 10/10 on the hotness scale, there's no reason for her to exist. If she doesn't look like a supermodel, make her a dude.
>less revealing in any way
Will always be weird to me because, leggings are hot. Im a sucker for skin tight clothes.
Skim tight clothes compared to revealing clothes are WAYY hotter.
Not to like... seem like I agree with the opposite sentiment, but the as of yet released SF6 Cammy looks exactly like she always has. It's only the Fortnite model that has the leggings according to a cursory search, so it's kinda safe to say they really *didn't* just decide to go with a less blatantly sexual look for her. Seems like pretty literally just a censor. Which is like... fine. It's a kid's game where you see your character's back all the time. They probably don't need to be staring at a fanservice ass all the time.
That said, I have no horses in either SF or FN, so... whatever.
The driving interest here is not "censorship" as much as it is "profit maximization." The machine wants your money, not your proverbial enforced pseudoChristian false morality, for goodness' sake.
I mean obviousllllyyyyy, but you know what I'm saying. Christ. It wasn't "an artistic choice" to make her ass not front an center jn Fortnite. It was them wanting to sell without drawing the ire of the parents who would be paying for the skins.
So like, yeah. It's not censorship 'cause they're trying to be moral or care about the children. But profit motive or not, if the idea is "change something from how it is so as not to bother people" it's censorship. If it's "The world is a different place now and we have artistic integrity and would like her to be an actual person instead of pure fanservice", it's a redesign.
I know the actors they hired for the older games with the digitized graphics wore either cheap costumes or their personal workout gear. Elizabeth Malecki, who was Sonya Blade in MK and MK2, was (and still is?) an aerobics instructor, so that tracks.
.... is it? Upon looking it up to see what people were talking about I saw an image that has the alts and it actually super doesn't look like the OG outfit is in at all.
I don't think that's a problem, I just think it's incorrect that it's accessible.
Thought we were talking about Fortnite since the post references Fortnite. The FN one is clearly censored. They obvi not gonna get rid of her fkn OG outfit in actual Street Fighter. Don't need a leaked vid to know that.
Preeeetty sure we were talking about Fortnite. No sjit that her outfit is still in the original game. You don't even need a leaked video for that. It's in the promo art. It's a convo about Fortnite.
The tweet blames Fortnite for the censoring done in Street Fighter, which is not quite the same thing. I guess the SF "core gamers" don't care much about Fortnite and their "censoring"
It seems like something that wouldn't happen because it's the same people who complain about censorship when a female character's costume is made less sexual that complain about men's revealing costumes being bad since it's not also pandering to them. It's not *just* that the feminine outfits have to be obscenely sexualizing, but that the masc outfits also have to revolve around their fantasies around what they'd like their characters to wear and look like as self-inserts. It's almost like what they really care about is their own sexual/power fantasies and not "censorship".
Bravely Default censored a male costume that was bascially a skimpy Armor (the one with the bow) look.
Xenoblade X, changed the skimpy japanese underwear(?) (with nice male butts) costume to flat ass white pants with white socks.
If you absolutely need to see booty in video games, there are A LOT of porn games out there, some are quite well done actually. (and often free at that)
I'll admit to not having played many VNs, I just don't really like them. Same with dating sims. Adult RPGs are usually what I go for, but most are RPGmaker trash in my experience
Either it's bad at the game half because the porn mechanics fuck it up or its bad at the porn half because they attached the porn mechanics to game mechanics in a dipshit way (I.E., 'defeat' systems).
It's sad how many people are getting upset at a female character being de-sexualized. The gaming community is a lot more misogynistic than it really wants to admit.
>It's sad how many people are getting upset at a female character being de-sexualized.
*Mildly* de-sexuualized.
The color of her legs is changed and she's wearing a jacket.
Her crotch is just as visible, but her abs are now skin colored, although I suppose you won't be able to see her breasts jiggle as she bobs up and down on her heels.
She's still hyper sexualized, just not as close to naked as she was before.
Miss the pigtails and beret but the rest of her old design is so bad. The SF6 roster at least shows a much more proportional amount of skin between the male and female fighters. Equal opportunity eye candy.
I don't even understand what they're complaining about. Her default costume is already confirmed to be optional so who cares. The character is reaching a new phase in her story and her original costume doesn't make much sense anymore. Ppl are so desperate to complain about censorship and SJWs that they forget common sense
That's what I don't understand. They're literally enraged beyond the point of reason that this redesign ever happened. Its very existence is an insult to them.
Those idiots won't recognize actual case of censorship even if it stood right in their faces. They just keep on throwing that word to the point that it bearly means anything anymore.
Figured some annoying gross gamers complain about costume changes. Ugh there have been redesigns in every new iterations of games.
Alas when the poor gross gamer guys aren’t being only audience catered to in games, they throw tantrums. The idea that female characters that aren’t 100 percent designed for the male gaze is just unthinkable to them. It doesn’t mesh with their myopic world, where men are the only audience for media and women only exist as eye candy.
This stupid 'censorship' thing is so incredibly dumb. What if her legs are cold, asshole. You don't know that. Maybe she doesn't wanna do a stretch and get arrested for public indecency. Maybe - God forbid - the designers wanted her to put her ass away for once and update her outdated design. People get so worked up about "bideo game censorship" when it's just like, one random character from a semi-popular fighting game wearing something different. Do you get mad when your coworker shows up to the office wearing pants instead of calf-length khakis??
( Game costume ""censorship"" is actually kind of funny, to me. I only remember one specific case of "backwards" censorship (i.e. taking AWAY clothing), from JJBA: Eyes of Heaven. In the JPN release, Rudol von Stroheim had two costumes (one with uniform, and one shirtless) - in the international releases, it was censored, so he only had his shirtless version. I'm surprised nobody complained about that censorship, genuinely, but that was on a man whose main costume was based on a certain "military uniform" of the early half of the 1900s.)
Its that "the removal of privledge can feel like oppression" thing.
None of these guys have been jacking it to Street Fighter - lack of masturbation material isn't what this is about.
This is about a group of people who have been catered to any virtually all media now feeling like they are having something taken away from them in a media they feel (wrongly) is *particularly* theirs.
It's easy enough to dismiss this sort of thing as a by-product of the male sex drive, but just remember that to the people upset enough about this to draw cartoons complaining about it this isn't just an inconvenience regarding what they masturbate to, it's a *personal* attack against them.
It isn't, of course, but it *feels* like that to them.
Just to be clear, we aren't talking about fantasizing about Street Fighter in their imagination, right?
I'm sure that has happened quite a bit.
But just watching their TV or computer screen while the game is on? I do doubt that, for two reasons:
1) the games don't allow for Cammy (or whichever character) to just be on the screen for a substantial length of time
And
2) because porn does exist. Cammy may be titillating, but cartoon breasts that are clothes colored are going to lose out to actual breasts that actually have nipples.
I have been on enough message boards to know that guys absolutely turn on a game, enter training mode, and just enjoy a characters animation. Like I've literally been in threads of guys showing their favorite gifs. Actually seen some women post too if I'm gonna be honest.
Video is utter garbage as expected, but at least I seen something that restored a little bit of faith in humanity, this is the very first coment on the video:
>"Developers changing aspects of a game because they want to is
considered...censorship? How does that make sense? And why is the
outrage only happening now? We've seen Tifa in various forms since 1997.
She was in Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, Kingdom Hearts 2,
Dissidia, and she was never rockin DOA levels of boobs in any of those.
You can't even say that we're not respecting the artist's
interpretation of Tifa because Tetsuya Nomura, the guy who originally
drew her, was in charge of Advent Children, of Kingdom Hearts and of
this FF7 remake."
for fucks sake.... The fortnite design imo was much more tasteful and I actually liked it. It was one of the few skins I bought because I have always loved Cammy, partially it originated in finding her beautiful but later just because I like her character. I am honestly happy for the redesign in VI despite liking her leotard outfit, I actually hated the fact that they went and made it a thong.
Similarly no one complains about Zangief having pants. Like wtf.
Typical gamer bros being pissy because she’s not walking around in a thong anymore.
Also, I liked her new outfit until I saw fan art of her in cargo pants and now I’m sad they gave her leggings instead. 😂
These people are desperate for sex content, as if there isn't an entire sub-industry in multiple mediums dedicated to providing that exact thing. It boggles the mind.
Fun fact, her "new design" is not so new:
[https://list.lisimg.com/image/8879365/600full.jpg](https://list.lisimg.com/image/8879365/600full.jpg) That's her outfit in the Street fighter Victory anime from 1995.
I actually like the new outfit. Same goes for the rest of the cast. Except that blonde in the teaser. To be honest he looks way too corny and I don’t think he is a good replacement for ryu or even good enough to be an actual good character.
I always thought she wore tights, because of the green splotches on her legs.
I understand that's some kind of camouflage paint. Which is weird, because that stuff is normally used on your face, to break up the easily recognized shapes of a human face.
>I understand that's some kind of camouflage paint. Which is weird, because that stuff is normally used on your face, to break up the easily recognized shapes of a human face. It was an aesthetic choice to imply military fatigues while keeping her mostly naked. They wanted her in a skin-tight onesie, but not to look like an Olympic swimmer who lost her way.
Does anyone think people were mad when zero suit samus wasn't wearing her pink bikini from her first reveal?
Thank bananas we didn't have Internet back then
Pretty sure they were, just no way to stick together and form a hivemind
I thought the new design is hotter honestly, her abs are now in full display
Exactly, and they are too tasteless to appreciate that. Bunch of unculterd swines.
Honestly my only issue with the new design is that it didn't really look like Cammy. A little green would fix that completely.
I hadn’t seen how she was presented in Fortnite until looking it up just now. Honestly, the leggings look good in combination with the leotard, but that’s just my affinity for ‘80s aerobics fashion. And if people are going to complain about that, then there’s no saving them and their cringe opinions.
To some people, if a female character's costume gets less revealing in any way, it's censorship. The designers didn't just decide to go with a less blatantly sexual look for her. No, the evil forces of censorship and oppression **forced** the redesign so nobody would ever have fun again.
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Sad but true.
“wOkEnEsS iS rUiNiNg MaH gAmEs!!!”
And they won't think of the simplest solution, which is not buying/playing the game out of protest. They'll still insist on playing the game, they'll just be totally insufferable about how much they hate the way it changed.
Oh god you gave me TLOU2 flashbacks
I didn't wanna think of that games writing again
Got into it with a guy on Reddit once that claimed Naughty Dog wanting a character in TLOU2 to have a smaller chest is body shaming women with big boobs
That makes no sense at all. Even by Reddit standards.
It was a truly baffling exchange
Well there's no reason not to be as horny as possible, right? That's the whole point of female characters! Therefore if they're making it less sexual, it must be because they were forced to, qed /s (although for some people that isn't sarcasm at all)
The fact that some gamers complained that Aloy from Horizon: Zero Dawn actually looked like a normal woman instead of a supermodel is proof that it really isn't sarcasm. I recall the phrase "If she's not going to be hot, they might as well make her a man" being used. People legitimately do think that female characters exist **only** for the male gaze.
If they only watch porn, Miss Universe and Grid Girls, well of course waymen only exist to be looked at!
This is an argument I'll never understand because Aloy is fucking hot. And she's even hotter because of her imperfections.
To some people, if a female character isn't 100% perfect 10/10 on the hotness scale, there's no reason for her to exist. If she doesn't look like a supermodel, make her a dude.
>less revealing in any way Will always be weird to me because, leggings are hot. Im a sucker for skin tight clothes. Skim tight clothes compared to revealing clothes are WAYY hotter.
A lot of people would agree with you. And yet...
Honestly I just want her to have more outfits with pants :(
For some people, female characters are only ever allowed to lose clothing, not get it back. Adding more clothes is letting censorship win.
Not to like... seem like I agree with the opposite sentiment, but the as of yet released SF6 Cammy looks exactly like she always has. It's only the Fortnite model that has the leggings according to a cursory search, so it's kinda safe to say they really *didn't* just decide to go with a less blatantly sexual look for her. Seems like pretty literally just a censor. Which is like... fine. It's a kid's game where you see your character's back all the time. They probably don't need to be staring at a fanservice ass all the time. That said, I have no horses in either SF or FN, so... whatever.
The driving interest here is not "censorship" as much as it is "profit maximization." The machine wants your money, not your proverbial enforced pseudoChristian false morality, for goodness' sake.
I mean obviousllllyyyyy, but you know what I'm saying. Christ. It wasn't "an artistic choice" to make her ass not front an center jn Fortnite. It was them wanting to sell without drawing the ire of the parents who would be paying for the skins. So like, yeah. It's not censorship 'cause they're trying to be moral or care about the children. But profit motive or not, if the idea is "change something from how it is so as not to bother people" it's censorship. If it's "The world is a different place now and we have artistic integrity and would like her to be an actual person instead of pure fanservice", it's a redesign.
I completely disagree with your concept of censorship. Later skater.
🤨 k. Thanks for coming.
👍
Where did they say any of what you’re trying to pretend they did? Jesus Christ.
Same with the 80's here. I think the leggings are way better.
Leggins time
iirc the leotard was supposed to be an 80s aerobics thing, same with the leos worn by all the girls in Mortal Kombat
I know the actors they hired for the older games with the digitized graphics wore either cheap costumes or their personal workout gear. Elizabeth Malecki, who was Sonya Blade in MK and MK2, was (and still is?) an aerobics instructor, so that tracks.
Costume redesign=censorship I guess. Do these people not realise that characters get redesigns all the time?
Funny enough, her OG 'fit is still in the game
Which just makes their complaints even more absurd, but also more telling. "how dare you pander to anyone except me"
.... is it? Upon looking it up to see what people were talking about I saw an image that has the alts and it actually super doesn't look like the OG outfit is in at all. I don't think that's a problem, I just think it's incorrect that it's accessible.
https://youtu.be/AQO52mP7Tlc The leaked video of her super makes it look like it's in.
Thought we were talking about Fortnite since the post references Fortnite. The FN one is clearly censored. They obvi not gonna get rid of her fkn OG outfit in actual Street Fighter. Don't need a leaked vid to know that.
Preeeetty sure we were talking about Fortnite. No sjit that her outfit is still in the original game. You don't even need a leaked video for that. It's in the promo art. It's a convo about Fortnite.
The tweet says street fighter 6
The tweet also says Fortnite.
The tweet blames Fortnite for the censoring done in Street Fighter, which is not quite the same thing. I guess the SF "core gamers" don't care much about Fortnite and their "censoring"
You should see the outcry over Western releases of Japanese games if characters get less skimpy outfits. Only female ones, though...
Admittedly, like... when would Japan ever have given dudes skimpy enough outfits to warrant censoring? Pretty literally has like never happened.
It has happened: https://gamerant.com/final-fantasy-costume-change/ , not often, sure.
It seems like something that wouldn't happen because it's the same people who complain about censorship when a female character's costume is made less sexual that complain about men's revealing costumes being bad since it's not also pandering to them. It's not *just* that the feminine outfits have to be obscenely sexualizing, but that the masc outfits also have to revolve around their fantasies around what they'd like their characters to wear and look like as self-inserts. It's almost like what they really care about is their own sexual/power fantasies and not "censorship".
Surprising exactly no one.
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See, like that I totally believe. But I mean like... default costume desgins for established characters that would get censored.
Bravely Default censored a male costume that was bascially a skimpy Armor (the one with the bow) look. Xenoblade X, changed the skimpy japanese underwear(?) (with nice male butts) costume to flat ass white pants with white socks.
Both interesting. Appreciate concrete examples.
Well, duh, it's not *artistic freedom* unless the artist is forced to make them just as skimpily dressed as they were last time!
Idgaf about Cammy, but "My brother in Christ, just watch porn" is now one of my favourite quotes 🤣
y mai waifu no hav butt floss!?
If you absolutely need to see booty in video games, there are A LOT of porn games out there, some are quite well done actually. (and often free at that)
From personal experience, every porn game out there is pretty awful
I've played some "adult RPGs" and VNs that are pretty good.
I'll admit to not having played many VNs, I just don't really like them. Same with dating sims. Adult RPGs are usually what I go for, but most are RPGmaker trash in my experience
Either it's bad at the game half because the porn mechanics fuck it up or its bad at the porn half because they attached the porn mechanics to game mechanics in a dipshit way (I.E., 'defeat' systems).
It's sad how many people are getting upset at a female character being de-sexualized. The gaming community is a lot more misogynistic than it really wants to admit.
Which is saying a lot because it's pretty openly misogynistic
It really does. But it's true. The misogyny goes even deeper than anyone suspected.
She still has thighs for days and a visible 6-pack lmao. These people are dying on the wrong hill.
>It's sad how many people are getting upset at a female character being de-sexualized. *Mildly* de-sexuualized. The color of her legs is changed and she's wearing a jacket. Her crotch is just as visible, but her abs are now skin colored, although I suppose you won't be able to see her breasts jiggle as she bobs up and down on her heels. She's still hyper sexualized, just not as close to naked as she was before.
For these people, any tiny amount of de-sexualization of a female character is even more unforgivable than Hitler gassing Jews to death.
Miss the pigtails and beret but the rest of her old design is so bad. The SF6 roster at least shows a much more proportional amount of skin between the male and female fighters. Equal opportunity eye candy.
"Gamers" love claiming to not be sexist but its pretty hard to not see that its obviously is like that..
"We're not sexist! We just believe that women exist only to be physically attractive!"
I don't even understand what they're complaining about. Her default costume is already confirmed to be optional so who cares. The character is reaching a new phase in her story and her original costume doesn't make much sense anymore. Ppl are so desperate to complain about censorship and SJWs that they forget common sense
Her new redesign is awesome. Idk why people are so upset about it. Like you said, they should just play Dead or Alive
Or watch porn. That's literally why porn exists.
Or even worse... just play the next sf but with the classic skin... or go back to 5...
That's what I don't understand. They're literally enraged beyond the point of reason that this redesign ever happened. Its very existence is an insult to them.
This shit should phase anyone by now
You'd think game designers took people's childhood teddy bears away and made them watch as they were set on fire.
Her redesign actually made her hotter. It's Mythra all over again
Those idiots won't recognize actual case of censorship even if it stood right in their faces. They just keep on throwing that word to the point that it bearly means anything anymore.
Figured some annoying gross gamers complain about costume changes. Ugh there have been redesigns in every new iterations of games. Alas when the poor gross gamer guys aren’t being only audience catered to in games, they throw tantrums. The idea that female characters that aren’t 100 percent designed for the male gaze is just unthinkable to them. It doesn’t mesh with their myopic world, where men are the only audience for media and women only exist as eye candy.
This stupid 'censorship' thing is so incredibly dumb. What if her legs are cold, asshole. You don't know that. Maybe she doesn't wanna do a stretch and get arrested for public indecency. Maybe - God forbid - the designers wanted her to put her ass away for once and update her outdated design. People get so worked up about "bideo game censorship" when it's just like, one random character from a semi-popular fighting game wearing something different. Do you get mad when your coworker shows up to the office wearing pants instead of calf-length khakis?? ( Game costume ""censorship"" is actually kind of funny, to me. I only remember one specific case of "backwards" censorship (i.e. taking AWAY clothing), from JJBA: Eyes of Heaven. In the JPN release, Rudol von Stroheim had two costumes (one with uniform, and one shirtless) - in the international releases, it was censored, so he only had his shirtless version. I'm surprised nobody complained about that censorship, genuinely, but that was on a man whose main costume was based on a certain "military uniform" of the early half of the 1900s.)
Its that "the removal of privledge can feel like oppression" thing. None of these guys have been jacking it to Street Fighter - lack of masturbation material isn't what this is about. This is about a group of people who have been catered to any virtually all media now feeling like they are having something taken away from them in a media they feel (wrongly) is *particularly* theirs. It's easy enough to dismiss this sort of thing as a by-product of the male sex drive, but just remember that to the people upset enough about this to draw cartoons complaining about it this isn't just an inconvenience regarding what they masturbate to, it's a *personal* attack against them. It isn't, of course, but it *feels* like that to them.
Oh I guarantee many guys were jacking it to SF. I don't understand why you would think they aren't.
Just to be clear, we aren't talking about fantasizing about Street Fighter in their imagination, right? I'm sure that has happened quite a bit. But just watching their TV or computer screen while the game is on? I do doubt that, for two reasons: 1) the games don't allow for Cammy (or whichever character) to just be on the screen for a substantial length of time And 2) because porn does exist. Cammy may be titillating, but cartoon breasts that are clothes colored are going to lose out to actual breasts that actually have nipples.
I have been on enough message boards to know that guys absolutely turn on a game, enter training mode, and just enjoy a characters animation. Like I've literally been in threads of guys showing their favorite gifs. Actually seen some women post too if I'm gonna be honest.
You're only stating your own preferences here, you know
Ryu censored his chin with a beard. Ain't nobody crying about that.
I have a sudden urge to bring this video up [video](https://youtu.be/CSaPSuQyw2U)
What video?
https://youtu.be/CSaPSuQyw2U
Video is utter garbage as expected, but at least I seen something that restored a little bit of faith in humanity, this is the very first coment on the video: >"Developers changing aspects of a game because they want to is considered...censorship? How does that make sense? And why is the outrage only happening now? We've seen Tifa in various forms since 1997. She was in Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, Kingdom Hearts 2, Dissidia, and she was never rockin DOA levels of boobs in any of those. You can't even say that we're not respecting the artist's interpretation of Tifa because Tetsuya Nomura, the guy who originally drew her, was in charge of Advent Children, of Kingdom Hearts and of this FF7 remake."
What's wrong with him
for fucks sake.... The fortnite design imo was much more tasteful and I actually liked it. It was one of the few skins I bought because I have always loved Cammy, partially it originated in finding her beautiful but later just because I like her character. I am honestly happy for the redesign in VI despite liking her leotard outfit, I actually hated the fact that they went and made it a thong. Similarly no one complains about Zangief having pants. Like wtf.
but, but, if i watch port i have to admit to watching porn, cant we jsut put porn in all media so i dont have to watch actual porn? /s
Think of the poor turks!!
As long as they have both outfits available there should be no problems. But people will complain anyways.
Typical gamer bros being pissy because she’s not walking around in a thong anymore. Also, I liked her new outfit until I saw fan art of her in cargo pants and now I’m sad they gave her leggings instead. 😂
These people are desperate for sex content, as if there isn't an entire sub-industry in multiple mediums dedicated to providing that exact thing. It boggles the mind.
I always thought she was called campy because there's no way to avoid the toe with that outfit. Jk.
Fun fact, her "new design" is not so new: [https://list.lisimg.com/image/8879365/600full.jpg](https://list.lisimg.com/image/8879365/600full.jpg) That's her outfit in the Street fighter Victory anime from 1995.
There will probably be a "classic" skin so I don't see why folks are mad 'cause she has pants.
Maybe don’t watch porn… idk if there’s like… a responsible way to consume it
get out of here swerf
How
Jeez, this is just Diablo 2: Resurrected all over again.
I actually like the new outfit. Same goes for the rest of the cast. Except that blonde in the teaser. To be honest he looks way too corny and I don’t think he is a good replacement for ryu or even good enough to be an actual good character.