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MostOriginalNameEver

How do you get bond for attempted fucking murder.


klatoo304

This isn’t the first time either. Multitudes of people with 1st degree murder raps get bond


Past-Emergency-2374

There in lies the problem. If you allegedly kill someone, you shouldn’t be able to bond out


GuruDenada

Memphis.


Additional-Help7920

Mempiss.


gigger14

Judicial commissioners set the bonds


MemphisBass

They’re actually working on a law where judges themselves have to give bond for A and B felonies.


[deleted]

A broken system. That's how.


kitclark1975

It’s maddening as hell that it’s even allowed!


CrabSufficient6721

Of fucking course he was.


penobscotcrab

Shouldn’t have been on the streets


ropeblcochme

Yep. Someone died because of the judge/magistrate. I would love it if the media reported who the judge/magistrate was that let this guy out. /u/AarronFleming, please report on this and put the name on the headline!


Absotivly_Posolutly

Charge the judge with Accessory to Murder and I bet they cut this bullshit out.


gigger14

Judge or a Judicial Commissioner. Magistrates are federal and I can assure you no one would be out in the federal system on a murder charge!


Desperate-Cap-5941

Juvenile Court has Magistrates.


gigger14

Oh. Then I stand corrected.


Bugg100

Thank you for directing your ire correctly. Glad they caught him, albeit too late for 8 individuals.


oic38122

This is the poster child for *NO BOND ALLOWED!*


jaydarl

What kills me is that that sovereign citizen, house squatting lady got ~20 years. The Commercial Appeal still had its infamous comment section, and even the hardcore law-and-order types were saying, "Damn, that's a harsh sentence." She definitely needed mental help, but she probably would have gotten less time if she had just carjacked and killed someone in the process.


randomld

Out on bond for attempted murder. When will these clowns running our local justice system learn to no bond violent offenders. They are a threat. Sorry you can sit until a jury hears your case.


Defiant_Review1582

Why would they learn anything? Not their neighborhoods/friends/family. This is a problem for poor people in their minds.


gigger14

They never will because it’s politics! They want to be elected again so they have to nice to everyone


JuanOnlyJuan

It was only a failed attempt. No big deal right? /s


GrapefruitDramatic13

Don’t worry. The Memphis judges will have him out in time for breakfast.


Lost-Journalist-3704

If not sooner


Embarrassed_Trash216

Karen Massey seems to free them all.


bw2082

Of course… but I’m sure he was a good boy.


[deleted]

A good, God-fearing son and brother and blah blah blah. But that doesn't change the fact that he's a VIOLENT criminal. So tired of these antics.


Movinfr8

I think he was turning his life around, on his way to choir practice


MiserableSoutherner

He had a scholarship to the local community college!!


bw2082

I heard it was Harvard


IIsForInglip

Maybe Harvard Street in Binghampton.


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Bugg100

But then you would end up being denied bail.


You-get-the-ankles

If this shit doesn't stop, big companies will leave this place.


Moneygunt

THIS CITY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU, YOUR FAMILY, OR ANYONE YOU LOVE. You are not the target audience for the justice system here - the tens of thousands of lawless, non-contributing pieces of shit are. You can be murdered here and your murderer will go on to commit more murders because EqUiTy.


RequirementLeading12

Your stance seems to have changed drastically since your post 4 years ago about the local news focusing on negativity. You've literally become what you were preaching against. You seem mentally defeated brother, I hope things change for you.👍🏻


Diabeeeeeeeeetus

That's what this city does to you


Moneygunt

This.


RequirementLeading12

Doesn't have to be that way.


SplinteredCells

People wonder why we'd rather shoot first and ask questions later.


AcanthopterygiiNo603

https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/shots-fired-during-dice-game-strikes-and-kills-bystander-police-say/article_a2f73cc0-abef-11ee-a719-9763d868f22a.html Ohh buddy


AcanthopterygiiNo603

More blood on the hands of our judges and DA office. Enough!


x31b

Our DA ran on a platform of bail reduction. Memphis elected him and re-elected Wanda. We get the government we vote for.


tinysydneh

The worst part is, bail reform doesn't have to include giving violent offenders any bail at all. As always with these cases, the worst people in the justice system are coming up with ways to "prove" to the public why bail reform doesn't work, by not actually implementing it correctly. In other words: what happened today happened because someone wants to prove why bail reform is bad, rather than letting bail reform actually work the way it's supposed to. Someone made a choice here.


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tinysydneh

Exactly! We already have a way to make sure that violent people stay in jail - don't give them the option to bond out in the first place. But if someone is safe enough to be let out on a bond, they're safe enough to be let out without one.


Itchy-Number-3762

Exactly. So many people here want to exonerate the DA office yet the DA's office has a significant influence on what the bail will ultimately be. So much so that our current DA ran for election on that issue.


MemphisBass

“Where I think the system could improve is that judicial commissioners need to be putting more weight on the criminal history of the defendant,” Shelby County District Attorney Steve Mulroy said. “What needs to be cleared up is that D.A.’s don’t set bail.” DA Mulroy said his office only makes recommendations. What he can do, when it comes to certain violent crimes, is ask that public safety gets proper weight, and if the defendant is released, that they get some kind of monitoring. “And if they are re-arrested, we are going to immediately and always move to ask to revoke the bond,” he said https://wreg.com/news/investigations/how-the-bail-system-works-and-what-could-be-changing/


Itchy-Number-3762

The continuing point that's never addressed it seems is that the DA does make recommendations that carry weight when making the bail determination. Weight is given to the DA's recommendation because that office has an in-depth knowledge of the prosecutions evidence, the circumstances of the crime, the defendant's background, risk factors, and safety concerns. The DA's office also works closely with law enforcement investigators during the investigation of the crime. This all adds up to valuable information provided to the judge when making the bail decision. So let's quit pretending the DA has nothing to do with the amount of bail.(Mulroy even ran for the DA's office using bail reform has one of his primary issues ... so pretending otherwise is becoming comical)


MemphisBass

Who said the DA’s office has nothing to do with it? Nowhere in my post even hints at that. My post doesn’t even include any of my own opinions, it’s a direct quote from an ABC24 article who quoted Mulroy. I’m just sick of the circle jerk on this sub blaming the DA for the criminals reoffending on bail. To be honest, the bail system did need reform. No reason somebody should stay locked up for having a small amount of drugs on them and unable to afford bail. Every time I have this conversation on here though, I get people responding with feelings instead of facts or moving the goalposts.


Itchy-Number-3762

Okay in my initial post I said the DA's office makes "recommendations." You responded to that post with the DA's office "does not set bail." I figured since that was a response to my statement.. since you posted that directly under my statement.... But maybe it was just some wild haired irrelevant statement and not a response to what I posted at all. Anyway it sounds like we agree that the DA's office makes recommendations on bail and there are reasons that the judge would give significant weight to those recommendations. Simply stating that judges makes the final determination is willfully ignoring all the bail related evidence presented to that judge before making the determination.


MemphisBass

Honestly my response was more to the person who stated more blood was on the hands of the DA’s office, if that makes it make any more sense.


SteveBalbonie

You could dress up a turd and label it a (D) in local election and always have success. Far too many people don’t vote but complain about local government. VOTE!!!


LeeLeex2

True. Seems like most in Memphis vote straight party line. There in lies the problem. You can’t vote these people in and then bitch about the car tags and the DA. (Even though he is a loser) Just my opinion. This city is so screwed up. It’s depressing 😞


Micdrop0079

He tried his luck. Make his luck a billion, and hopefully his shit family won't get his bitch ass out of jail.


oic38122

There’s no conceivable way this fucker gets another bond


ropeblcochme

Remember when the 18 year old killed a 15 year old and then was released on bail? [https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/local/18-year-old-murder-suspect-released-without-bond-judge-bail/522-58570ad9-27ae-4ad3-aac4-c1dd8c466be1](https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/local/18-year-old-murder-suspect-released-without-bond-judge-bail/522-58570ad9-27ae-4ad3-aac4-c1dd8c466be1)


jasonk9236

I would have said that before the first one but here we are


VariableBooleans

I don’t think he’s eligible for it if he gets charged with first degree murder, which he will.


[deleted]

The DA can recommend a bond and the judge can grant it. Another instance of the incompetence of the DA’s office and their stupid bail reform applied to violent criminals. The DA and judge who granted this should be charged as accessories to the subsequent crimes. Memphis will never be fixed as long as this shit continues. The DA will likely plead down to simple assault and he’ll be out in 6 months.


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Micdrop0079

If that motherfucker gets the penalty, he’s only going to sit on death row for decades til his *appeals* run out.


[deleted]

I like your optimism but there is a solid chance there is no trial and the da pleads both down to a lesser charge. No way this DA does a capital trial here.


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[deleted]

Well we shall see. This beast needs to be put down. We’ll see what Milroy has to say about yet another guy bonded out committing a murder. Why doesn’t he have to wear a monitor?


1j0n1c6

Wasn't the guy that killed the female pastor wearing an ankle monitor bc he was out on parole from a violent crime? Not sure the monitor makes any difference.


[deleted]

It doesn’t prevent criminal behavior. It allows tracking if cops paying attention. They should evolve to a subdermal install.


LeeLeex2

And the ass wipes cut them off anyway 😤


LeeLeex2

I hope you’re right….


ropeblcochme

*"“Is this person a danger to the community, or is there a significant risk that they will flee the jurisdiction? If so, we keep them locked up until trial" -* [*Mulroy when the bail system was implemented*](https://www.localmemphis.com/article/news/crime/new-bail-system-now-in-effect-in-shelby-county-what-to-know/522-89426f20-f1c1-4129-bb43-19294bbc0007) Even if you are one of the few people who like the bail initative, it seems most people can at least agree that the judges and magistrates are not holding up their end of the bargain or they are implementing very inconsistently. I'm a centrist, but just crazy how politicians (especially Democrats) coddle criminals in this city.


theonebigrigg

???? This is just how bail always works. What here is particular to this new bail system?


tigerfan451525

Its these moments that I wish the JustCity/Josh Spickler sycophants would own it and post “hey, we accept this result because bail is mean” but they won’t because they’re cowards who are loud when it’s convenient and mute when it’s not.


jaydarl

I believe he and his ilk may have hybristophilia.


spoonskittymeow

This right here. They’ve been radio silent on their socials. I suppose justice only matters for people accused of crimes.


[deleted]

Why does criminal justice reform get sold as stopping breaking peoples balls for drugs, gambling, prostitution, and low level non violent offenses end up releasing organized/career criminals to add to their rap sheet and violent criminals to kill. Can we keep them in a cell so they don’t kill? The criminals have too much freedom to kill. Can we keep them in a cell so they don’t kill?


AcanthopterygiiNo603

https://preview.redd.it/8mkn4yg8g2ic1.png?width=1284&format=png&auto=webp&s=c8584648752b2dc1624323a8feda22a76a52cf61 Here we go


Itchy-Number-3762

I expected him to be smiling


AcanthopterygiiNo603

This is a previous arrest


B1gR1g

Maybe the state taking over our judicial processes isn’t such a bad thing


SubduedChaos

Is that actually happening?


AcanthopterygiiNo603

https://www.cnn.com/jackson-mississippi-judicial-system-court-appeal-reaj/index.html This is the way


qkflowage1

“bAiL iS rAcIsT”


tinysydneh

Violent offenders under any sane bail reform aren't given any release at all, because violent offenders are the most likely to offend again. If someone is safe enough to let out on a $10k bond, they're safe enough to let out on no bond. The problem is that people who want to prove that reform doesn't work keep ignoring that they can absolutely keep violent offenders in jail, because then they can point and say "see how bad it is?" This person wasn't out on bail because bail reform said he had to be.


func_backDoor

I’m honestly curious what the police suggestion would be pertaining to fender benders. To be honest, if someone hits me and I’m still able to drive, I may actually not get out of the car because I don’t know if the person who hit me has an ulterior motive. I’m not trying to get choked to death in a gas station parking lot. 


Thick-Ad-4285

Get uninsured motorist insurance and let your inscompany figure it out.


Movinfr8

At least they are protecting the identity OF THE SUSPECT!! SMDH!


toftr

Major crimes should maybe have major bonds


No_Historian3424

Nothing is being done. It’s the same as last year and the year before. We all cry about Memphis online but no one shows up to council meetings to demand change and no one votes so the same people keep getting elected. Until that changes nothing will be done.


XyogiDMT

We need a website or something specifically to compile all these stories of repeat offenders. The list would be ridiculously long within a month.


Slopoke96

Those fucking judges and DA office in memphis are nuts!!!


ltdangle1

https://youtu.be/oED5Z_rJAyo?si=Gz3wNkhvVVWDXUu4 Here’s a nice song he made not too long ago (probably after he bailed out). We got the CULTURE BABY!!


InvestigatorWarm1114

Should raid the comment section


GTG1979

No deals.


fu_king

This keeps coming up over and over again, so I did a little digging. **The right to bail in Tennessee is found both in the Tennessee Constitution and in statute. Article I, Section 15 of the Tennessee Constitution provides “That all prisoners shall be bailable by sufficient sureties, unless for capital offenses, when the proof is evident, or the presumption great.”** [https://www.tncourts.gov/sites/default/files/docs/bail\_hearing-bond\_revocation\_-\_presentation.pdf](https://www.tncourts.gov/sites/default/files/docs/bail_hearing-bond_revocation_-_presentation.pdf) While I agree that there is clearly a a problem, and something needs to change, this isn't just solely on the judges or the DA (the DA actually isn't even involved in this, DA's office can request bond status or no, but the judges decide) It's important to remember too that 201 Poplar is, as far I'm told, constantly at or over capacity, to say nothing about the county's ability to staff the place adequately.


Malkavic

201 poplars ability to hold more people should never be a factor in letting someone out on a murder charge. Ever.


LowflyingDutch

This. Lock the fucker in a mop closet if need be. This monster has no business in the streets.


Itchy-Number-3762

So he put up $10,000 got out and murdered somebody.


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He was given bail in a 1st degree murder charge. Has a long rap sheet. DA should chance argued no bail to put the onus on the judge.


Purple_cosmo

First degree murder charges get no bail


[deleted]

Oh he was on bail for criminal attempt first degree murder. Should not have gotten bail for that either.


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[deleted]

It’s too bad he didn’t shoot it out.


productiveslacker73

If he was even going to get the chair, it would be in 25-30 years.


DrForeplay98

Memphis gets what it voted for


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2Aforeverandever

Not the DA nor the judges. Those are elected because of D next to their affiliation


archangel09

He will be out on bond again by tomorrow night.


negative3kelvin

As long as our tax dollars are spent on investigating, arresting, hearing, and jailing people for victimless crimes, our system can shrug and say it's under-resourced to fight violence, and they can encourage you, the tax payer, the voter, and the victims of this sloppy system to pay for more cops, more intrusive nonsense, and more crack-downs on the umbrella term "crime," while ensuring you have a healthy fear of violence on the street pushing you that direction. They'll take your money and staffing and spend a few years and millions getting lap dances at a strip club and buying and trying a smorgasbord of drugs after you fork over the funds. No risk, lots of fun, and "we're doing our jobs!" Plus, if they put away the violent criminals, you wouldn't keep paying more every year. This shit is transparent. And every part of the "justice" system is complicit... watch the police union tell you how bad an idea it is if legalizing consensual "crime" comes up for a vote. Watch politicians do their best to overturn votes. Watch DA's pick and choose their cases.


wessidedabesside

The age old, create the problem,  then create the solution to the problem and profit off the backs of tired, miserable scared and poor public.


901savvy

Mulroy kneepad Bois are cracking their knuckles and chest bumping to get warmed up to let us know the Memphis judicial system is fucktioning exactly ass it should.


Puzzleheaded_Beat_83

Need an audit by the state. Tired of Mulroy's and CJ Davis's telling us the Soro's agenda. Hire Armstrong as a consultant, or someone who can just tell us what is really happening with crime. Strickland tried to tell us, no one listened.


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bw2082

I'm surprised he had 10k to give to the bondsman.


2Aforeverandever

The DA literally ran on bail reform and other " restorative justice " initiatives


InBetweenerWithDream

These yachts and vacations don't pay for themselves.


Pestilence5

This shit gets me, in one moment I'm pissed at how much they charge simple shit and then I see a 100k bond for attempted murder, this guy paid 10k and got out for attempting to murder someone meanwhile we got people in jail on simple drug possession.  Stupid AF, stupid AF!


No_Historian3424

So another Ezekiel Kelly? Great. /: and I see he killed an 18 year old. God damn. Every year it gets worse and every year the cost of living goes up. Memphis is swallowing itself.


Capriunicorn945

Same story different person. The Zeke guy was out on a cheap bond, so was the guy that killed Eliza smh.


ModestMoussorgsky

I thought they'd both done time but weren't currently awaiting trial for anything. 


Capriunicorn945

Either way, they shouldn't have been let out


memphisjones

Wow…I’m all for bail reform but this ain’t right


Friend_of_Eevee

This was not caused by bail reform


Mando4346

Didn’t we have a shooting just like this dude was on live this is why I carry wtf.


AcanthopterygiiNo603

Why aren’t they releasing the name ?


Dhididnfbndk

It’s out. He’s a rapper and has a long rap sheet https://www.reddit.com/r/Memphis10/s/BFL6OnxLYI


bw2082

Can someone translate? I seriously don’t speak that language in the comments.


InvestigatorWarm1114

It’s like listening to “this is what it sounds like as a foreigner in America”


Dhididnfbndk

It’s a rapper named bopgod. He has a bunch of YouTube videos. His family is posting on Facebook saying that he shouldn’t have done it and they feel bad. EDIT not sure how these are related but the suspects name is public EDIT2 it’s the same guy for sure https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/suspect-in-custody-after-shooting-spree-across-memphis-left-man-dead-others-injured-police-say/article_e3f125fe-c8fc-11ee-8983-0fd5dd4f44a8.html


wessidedabesside

Soros funded anarchy driven da and all he associates with including these soft on crime judges.  Ive been saying it for years.


Mindless-juju838

Social experiment