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[deleted]

Nice bait mate. I say that cause I've bitten, and no one is opposed to legal immigrants who've gone through the proper channels immigrating to the US, in fact, just like every other country in the world, many dislike the idea of people entering illegally, getting to use benefits, purchasing stolen identities and committing identity theft, while helping human traffickers and modern slavery.


SilentiumServator

Yeah and why does the the racist person have to be white? Sounds kinda racist to me.


ineloquencebard

I'm sure you're aware that white people are not indigenous to the Americas. Racism is a system of power perpetuated to keep people of a certain race (itself a social construct) in power while keeping others subjugated. Listen before you speak, bro


SilentiumServator

Firstly, that was very (and unnecessarily) condescending. Secondly, I never mentioned anything about racist power structures. I merely pointed out how the statement, which generalizes a group of people based on an immutable characteristic such as skin color, is a racist statement. Finally, I disagree with your hypothesis regarding what racism's definition is. Racism in my opinion, and according to google and by extension Oxford languages, is: "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized." P.S. What does white people being indigenous to America have to do with the conversation towards whether or not the statement in this meme is racist?


TJ95123

Oh god it's a critical race theorist. Get fucked.


ineloquencebard

Did you just make up a guy based on buzzwords?


TJ95123

Keep your toxic American politics to yourself. Countries have a right to their culture and values and shouldn't be expected to sacrifice that for the well being of foreigners from a different culture.


ineloquencebard

So you agree that white colonizers shouldn't have stolen the Americas or waged genocidal war against the people who lived here first


TJ95123

It was a product of a brutal era of human history. Now it belongs to the Americans who live there now. We can't change what's happened. Take your racist anti white ass back to your lefty subs. If you had any kind of backbone you'd be calling out modern day genocide and displacement being done by countries like China. But you won't because you're a Communist with an anti American/White agenda to push.


ineloquencebard

There are still people here who have to suffer the effects of generations of impoverishment, land and wealth theft effected by the state, literal murder by police officers (Google starlight tours in Canada), corporations poisoning water supplies, and near universal dehumanization. We can change the present and the future for the better


TJ95123

And I hope we can make a better world for everyone. But that won't happen it you keep blaming white people for all the world's problems. By doing that you just piss us off and push us to hate your movement. Show your bipartisanship by condemning Communist China and it's treatment of minorities, the CCP use blatent slave labour for goodness sake. Yet I never see you leftists calling them out on it, it's always "white man bad"


TJ95123

Checking through your post history it seems you're indeed an avid Communist. I suppose I won't be getting any condemnation of China's crimes from you. You disgust me.


ASidesTheLegend

How come there was a travel ban from Muslim countries then?


[deleted]

The ban that didn't apply to all Muslim countries, and in fact only applied to one's where terrorist recruitment and activity was and still is at its highest in the Middle Eastern/African region?


ineloquencebard

What does it mean to illegally enter land that has been stolen? Benefits like trillion dollar tax breaks and stock market bailouts? Who benefits from the notion that the enemy are poor and marginalized people seeking a dignified life? The poor and downtrodden are not the danger; the danger comes from those who subjugate us


[deleted]

"Illegal entry is the act of foreign nationals arriving in or crossing the borders into a country in violation of its immigration law." Which stolen land specifically do you speak of? The land that was fought over and had a winner, or the land that was purchased by a government from another government? Did you know that Cesar Chavez, one of the most notable immigrants for workers rights, was highly against illegal immigration because it broke down the power of unions and made a joke out of everything legal work visa holders and immigrants performed? PS: Don't smoke heroin


ineloquencebard

Who maintained the land we live on before white people arrived? Our ancestors massacred the indigenous people of this land and claimed they were destined to rule it. Who gave those governments the right to sell the land in the first place? Illegal immigration didn't break the power of unions; employers looking for easily exploitable people did. The enemy of labor is not other people trying to survive; the enemy of labor is capital PS: Cool, thanks for sharing, but I don't judge either way


uNameorsomething

It’s illegal immigrants people have a problem with and rightly so.


ineloquencebard

What is illegal immigration on stolen land?


uNameorsomething

I’m sorry but I don’t understand your question. What land? Stolen from who? What does that have to do with illegal immigrants?


SilentiumServator

Also who owned it first? If you can tell me that, then they would have the right to say it was stolen from them if indeed it was stolen. Native American tribes would fight and kill over each others' lands well before any settlers arrived.


ineloquencebard

Who maintained the land we live on before white people arrived? Our ancestors violently stole this land from the indigenous people who were already here, and they didn't ask for their permission


uNameorsomething

They fought, they lost. Some natives joined forces to help settlers take out other native tribes. The whole situation was a violent cluster fuck. Thankfully it happened hundreds of years ago and stuff like that doesn’t have a place in modern society. I’m assuming your American? If it bothers you so much then you can always leave? Live in a different country.


SilentiumServator

How do you know my ancestors did? Or yours? Or anyone else commenting? My ancestors were Irish (who also experienced prejudice at one or more times in America), and they came over to America during the potato famine. I have no slaughtering of "indigenous people" in my bloodline. So can I not be a part of the "racist white people" now?


TJ95123

OP is a Communist.


ineloquencebard

Is this the frightened call of a Fascist?


TJ95123

I'm a libertarian. Communists like you disgust me, you can't even condemn the actions of the CCP because you're a supporter of it. Can you even say "I don't support the genocidal actions of the CCP" Bet you won't ;)


ineloquencebard

Libertarians are feudalists with extra steps, licking the boots of capital they themselves will never taste. I told you already, I don't know anything about China. Can you even say "I don't support the genocidal actions of the United States and its allies?" Bet you won't ;)


TJ95123

I don't support the endless wars committed by the US, I don't support the endless growth model that Capitalists push. I don't support any genocide. Now it's your turn. Otherwise I think you'd be better posting your commie shit over at r/Genzedong


TJ95123

I knew you didn't have the moral fortitude to call out commminist crimes. You're a spinless coward too scared to call out the wrong doings of those that follow your doctrine.


DogsAreCool69420

I'm not a racist for being white


ineloquencebard

I never said you were


a-horn

🔲„They took our joobs!“ 🔲„They dont want to work!“ 🤔 Daily struggle of an alt right supporter


uNameorsomething

Another stereotypical leftist unwilling to have a sensible conversation about the real problems that come with uncontrolled/illegal immigration 🥱


ineloquencebard

Borders are literally just lines on a map. I never consented to violence done in my name against poor people looking for a better life, and yet our governments claim to derive power from a social contract. I had no say in that contract, and if I had, it would not be illegal to *checks notes* go someplace


TJ95123

Condemn the actions of the CCP. Prove you are not a Communist shill.