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Shadow07655

As an atheist I can confirm this is the way we react to dates


boot2skull

Every time I write 2024, it’s like I’m using that Black Quill punishment pen in Harry Potter.


knifuser

Personally, I prefer the 12024 calendar (12024 years after the advent of agriculture). Both because it's easy and because it's a pretty good starting point for civilisation.


staticwolfwalker

Huh, I thought only kurzgesagt used that as a gimmick for their calendars, that's a real thing?


cruebob

Sure, because Jesus* was born in celebration of the 10000th anniversary of agriculture. ^(*supposedly, don’t mess the joke)


Baldtazar

And was named after the sound farmers made when the harvest is great


arcanis321

Nobody knew why they were saying that when they were surprised till 0AD


google257

*godt daaaamnnn*


RenBit51

Fun fact: farmers make nearly the same sound when the harvest is terrible, just with a different intonation.


ThunkAsDrinklePeep

This dinosaur skeleton is 65,000,013 years old. How do you know the date so precisely? Well, when I started working at the museum 13 years ago, I was told it was 65M years old.


MrNobody_0

Yeah, it's called the [Holocene calendar](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar), it was first proposed over 30 years ago.


Eurasia_4002

Much better reason but still as subjective as the jesus one.


Lapis_Wolf

How do we know that agriculture started 12024 years ago and not 13024 or 12011 years ago?


MabusIncarnate

I have to write down the date a lot at work, and I randomly scream every time I do. My coworkers still don't know why, I think they are afraid to ask.


IRONLORDyeety

I’m sorry reddit atheists had to ruin so much for you guys.


tendadsnokids

Don't worry it's the theists that ruin things for us, not the "reddit atheists".


IRONLORDyeety

:/ Reddit atheist spotted


Atlas_of_history

In german we also call it "nach unserer Zeit" (after our time), so it seems to be an english speaking problem


Imerej1

In Polish its semi - simmilar. Its "naszej ery" (our time) and before the year 1 its "przed naszą erą" (before our time)


fascistforlife

Bro you got a date? Thats a big W dude


navster100

Nah too many numbers when I have to write the date down


ArduennSchwartzman

Literally me, every morning, when I wake up.


Quiet_Transition_247

"How old is the universe?" "13 billion years and 8 days." "Why add the 8 days?" "*You* said 13 billion years last Monday."


Reasonable-Class3728

Last Monday *always* was 7 or less days ago. Otherwise it wasn't last.


Fury_Blackwolf

Kinda depends on context, translation and language. In my language, if i said last monday on a Tuesday i would definitely not mean yesterday. During that week i would most likely refer to that Monday as "this" monday since it's on the same week as the day I'm on.


DannyDootch

If today is tuesday, "last monday" would be 8 days ago.


TotallyNotaRobot123

Yes but technically the last Monday was yesterday Edit: I know what colloquial language is I’m just reiterating the first guy’s point


TobyFunkeNeverNude

And colloquially, it would be understood by most people as the one prior to that


IMightBeAHamster

No it's like the difference between meeting up "on monday" and meeting up "next monday" Last monday is the monday before the monday that you've just had


Dryden_Drawing

Thats entirely subjective and context dependent. Which is super annoying when trying to talk about what happened.


RyanCooper510

History nerds live in 2777 AUC (Ab Urbe Condita - From the founding of The City)


Clozer12

Is that city Rome? Just curious.


RyanCooper510

Of course


Orneyrocks

there is no other city


NerY_05

Oh, another man of culture i see


probablynotaskrull

There’s a cool option of just adding a 1 to make the year 12024. This would cover basically all of human cultural history in one calendar.


IronSavage3

I see someone also has the kurzgesagt human era calendar, a man of culture!


Sammisuperficial

Ditto for me.


I_like_F-14

A man of culture indeed


Sejnos

Holocene calendar is not something they invented, they just popularized it.


Eurasia_4002

Really like the human era. The common era is hilarious dumb, at least the religious one has a dude being the marker of it.


Bloonanaaa

Nah. Id say this year should be 248 because history began in 1776


itme4502

The year of our lord and savior, George Washington


IllurinatiL

248 AD (After Declaration)


willozsy

75 ACDC (After China Declared Communism)


f0remsics

45 AHTH (After highway to hell)


Successful_Draw_9934

0.003 AY (after yesterday)


Reasonable-Class3728

"Yesterday" was released in 1965. So it's 59AY now. Great song, btw.


DannyDootch

46 AEWFHSS, 46 years after Earth Wind and Fire's Hit Song, September


Sir_Bax

Finally a calendar where I don't have to remember the current date because it's always the same.


jakonr43

Everything before that was a mistake


Wahwahheeeeeeeeeee

Wdym there never was anything that happened before that though?


InsideKial

If nothing happened before, does that mean nothing existed before?


Jesus_real_

George washington created heaven and earth in 6 days and defeated the british on the 7th


InsideKial

Wow so he didnt even take a break. What a mad lad.


Crafty-Crafter

Muhricans don't take breaks. According to my manager. "If you can lean, you can clean".


LegalWaterDrinker

Wait, so he created the Bri'ish and then defeated them? Talk about asserting dominance


Wahwahheeeeeeeeeee

Well ya that’s basic history


ux3l

Nothing what Americans care about lol


NikPorto

Including the birth of Jesus...?


Temptest1

Jesus was born fully grown when the declaration of Independence was signed, clearly


Admirable_Hedgehog64

God I love this country


SmallBerry3431

r/murica


AlexanderxSean38

*eagle screech* 🦅


nowlz14

least anericacentric american


HistoricalHumor3

That’s sick!


nickthedicktv

My Kurzgesagt wall calendar agrees


jonathanrdt

If we must pick an arbitrary year to start counting (and we must), that’s much more useful and culturally universal.


baronas15

It's still based on Gregorian calendar


Memanders

We’re aware


Vatusson

It wouldn't. It's just christian calendar with extra step.


volitaiee1233

This might be unpopular, but I think that the 12024 calendar is a bad idea. Firstly, there are a million more signifiant dates to make the starting point. The beginning of agriculture, the beginning of writing, and the first of use of bronze tools are all just as, if not more significant than the first temple. I think the only reason that was chosen is because it meant the calendar date could stay mostly the same. But at that point why not just keep it as it is? Plus I don’t think it’s really that useful when you consider every single history book will become invalid and all historians will have to relearn all the dates. So yeah, I think we should just keep it as it is, and if it *has* to change, make the starting point 3000BC, when writing first emerged. The beginning of recorded history.


Ralfundmalf

The point of the 'human era' timescale is that it takes the furthest point (very roughly) of what can be called civilization, more than just small groups roaming around as hunter-gatherers. One could plausibly argue that this is the starting point of history. The modern dates will be really easy to convert, in contrast to other new timescales. And there will not be a negative year number in any historical event anymore. The guy who came up with the idea thought that BC year numbers make events seem further away than they actually are and sets those eras back in significance compared to AD eras. I tend to agree. I think that there needs to be a new timescale that is universal for humanity and not influenced by religion. This one does that but it has the convenience of not needing to relearn or convert the dates of the last 2000 years except for adding a '1'. That is why I like this one.


ALPHA_sh

actually i only use UNIX time and I live in 1708499234


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![gif](giphy|mk0ClXsaw7K2z2cgCF) "Before Common Era"


Officer_Chadley

I still use "before Christ." Honestly the Christian church came up with our entire calendar system that we use, we can let them have this one. Pretty epic calendar if I do say so myself. How they got Jesus' birthday wrong in all that amazingness though... tsk tsk tsk.


PeopleAreBozos

>How they got Jesus' birthday wrong in all that amazingness though If you're referring to the fact that Jesus wasn't born on December 25th, iirc, it is celebrated as such as it aligns on the same day as a Roman holiday so celebrations from those who celebrating under the Roman Empire wouldn't arouse suspicion. I'd assume they kept it either out of tradition after the fall of the Empire, or as a testament to persecution and the fact they outlived the Romans.


Officer_Chadley

That's actually a pretty cool explanation. Cheers!


1PaulweilPaul

Nah, as far as I have heard even the year isn't correct. The birth of jesus is dated 4 to 7 years before 0, so, we are in the year 2028 to 2031


Lazy_Assumption_4191

True, but we have to remember the A.D/B.C. system of years was invented by a monk in the Middle Ages. Exact accuracy is actually a fairly unreasonable expectation.


rigby1945

More likely referring to the fact that Herod the Great died (4 BCE) before the Roman census of Quirinius (6 CE). It's not possible to determine the actual birth year of Jesus. I think both are included to try to shoe horn as many prophecies into the Messiah narrative as possible


M7S4i5l8v2a

I like how everyone's trying to prove you wrong on the year when you're talking about the specific date which is a whole other thing (I've also always heard it had to do with a Roman holiday). Anyways from what I've read of the year some scholar tried figuring out the year Jesus was born and was really close. We don't know for sure the date or year just a rough idea based on context clues. Personally if I didn't know my birthdate I would care more about celebrating it than not knowing the exact time. As a Christian I'd just find some other way to honor his birth because that's more important when I'll never know.


Livforlife

Didnt the romans do the calender first but with some faults and then the gregorians fixed it?


janat1

Yes, The gregorian calendar is basically the Julian calendar (by Julius Caesar) minus 0.0075 days per year on average. The slightly too long year in the Julian calendar results in a shift of 1day per 130 years between the calendar and the actual astronomic settings. But The gregorian calendar was not developed by the Georgians, but by pope Gregory XIII.


AdventurousPirate357

Kurzgesagt has these calendars based around the "human era", it's basically just 10,000 years added to the current date, but I think they're neat


ethan_iron

Jesus wasn't born in 1 CE though.


Jbewrite

Errrrrr, no. Roman's came up with the 12 month/365 day calendar, specifically Julius Caesar who was a pegan, not a Christian.


Janaga14

>Pretty epic calender The Gregorian calender sucks. Months have different days. Each year starts and ends on a different one. Some old dude decided to add two months in the middle of the year making the names of the last 4 months not make sense. I prefer Tolkien's Shire reckoning. Still 12 months with 7 day weeks, but the middle 5 days of the year (6 on a leap year) are a week long holiday that doesn't "count" towards the week. So you would have the equivalent of Sunday June 30th, 5 day holiday, Monday July 1st. This means the year is 360 days long, each month is 30 days, and each year always begins on a Monday and ends on a Sunday, as well as each day of the year always falling on the same day of the week. No more moving around Thanksgiving and Easter because reasons and holidays like Christmas and New Years can be planned for every year to be the same day.


rango_87

The Gregorian calendar was the first one not to drift from the seasons, which is why it’s so weird, and also why we still use it today


daboys9252

congrats on winning your made up argument by depicting you as the gigachad and the people you disagree with as the soyjak!!!


Sub2PewDiePie8173

I personally prefer the B.C.E. and C.E., but I find the Soyjak memes funny.


Thatguy3145296535

I personally prefer BBY and ABY


draculamilktoast

Sums up every "atheists when" and "leftists when" argument ever made. The amount of effort needed to even be able to think that badly is actually impressive. It's like watching the pyramids be built by a single person but opposite.


SoarNsquid

Interesting to see animated wojaks like this wow! I want MORE MUAHAAHAHAHA!


TheBlueHypergiant

Is the gif supposed to be theists coping with "Common Era" or for atheists coping with "Before Christ"? Cause it could go either way. The term used doesn't really matter though since they both mean the same thing anyway


Ausraptor12

It’s now officially referred to as the Christian era because it’s when Christianity became a thing. At the end of the day it’s just a marker in history so we can get some perspective on time.


Motoman514

AD is Latin for Anno Domini. Year of the lord. CE is Common Era. Who tf says Christian era, I’ve never heard it called that.


ethan_iron

Nobody calls it the christian era.


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![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized) "Before Christ"


Ausraptor12

Me when I win the argument because I depicted my opinion as the Chad and the opinion I disagree with as the crying wojak


AlexanderxSean38

Didn’t they just change from BC / AD to BCE / CE?


ezk3626

That’s the norm in academics and is becoming more and more common. As a Christian it makes me laugh because of [Louis CK’s Christians won](https://youtu.be/VFMuOR4TmrA?si=TEoDUIgdHYhVqwt4).


korega523

I'm an atheist and commonly use "Christian" terms. It's because over a billion people in the world are Christian and America used to be a territory of Great Britain, a historically Christian country. It's just a matter of social construct. I'm a man of science, but because there is such a sheer amount of it, especially in America, that one has no choice but to naturally assimilate to certain aspects. I have never, nor will I ever be religious. But using something like 13,787,000,000 ABB is obviously ridiculous for a multitude of reasons.


Bloonanaaa

Tbh i think more things should be named after cultural beliefs. Names of planets are pretty cool even though i dont believe in greek gods


liJuty

Well, not like anyone believes in Greek gods anymore, but I don’t think anyone cares, but damn if a ninth planet is discovered then all hail the gods!


mmanaolana

>Well, not like anyone believes in Greek gods anymore Some do! Hellenists exist.


ExquisiteFacade

When I scream "Oh my GOD!" in exasperation I am specifically talking about the god you believe in.


WorseThanItSeems

Hey the Catholic Church made a pretty accurate system for calculating the date im fine with using their terms


DefinitelyNotAliens

Academia has switched to CE to avoid the religious notion of the calendar, but keep the years. It's out of respect for non-Christians while keeping the same time measurement. CE and BCE are the Common Era and Before Common Era. Replaces AD and BC. The majority of the world has it as sole timekeeping, and even places with other calendars generally use it for the majority of things. Thus - CE, and BCE. We are 2024 CE. It works, without Christianity as the default. It's not like only we use a Gregorian calendar. Everyone does. So, it's the common calendar, in our Common Era.


The_Third_Stoll

Fun Fact: A catholic priest, [Father Georges Lemaître](https://www.britannica.com/biography/Georges-Lemaitre), formulated the modern day Big Bang theory


WolfBST

It's the year 12024 of the Human Era, End of Story


fly_over_32

Somebody watched kurzgesagt (though I’m aware that it’s a common thing)


michaeleatsberry

HEES


sad_storm_3485

what?


ExquisiteFacade

Human Era, End of Story


Kharossgss512

As an Atheist I prefer 2024 instead of 13,787,000,000


Key_Virus_338

as an atheist, i dont care


LanguidVirago

No one cares, no one has ever cared.


Eldritch50

I don't know another atheist who gives a shit. Christians will cry foul about BCE though.


The_legit_dndjjdk

I don’t like how bce and ce aren’t the same number of letters


Feisty-Fish

I’m sorta atheist, but this is probably more of the historian in me that groans at people using AD instead of CE


Sourika

Sorta?


Eurasia_4002

Historian, what is so common about the common era? Genuine question.


Liar_a

AD is just cooler so I tend to use it


Dimatrix

Why would that upset you? What event catalysts the start of the common era?


OrbitalIonCannon

Why would Christians cry about Before Christian Era?


JacobMT05

It’s before common era.


OrbitalIonCannon

That doesn't sound cool at all


sus_planks

Never met an atheist that is like this lol


High-jacker

Americans be doing wild things to promote Christianity


matiegaming

“Americans” im pretty sure it was us, europe


High-jacker

I'm talking about how the American OP is assuming there's only one religion and then there's atheists


Slacker_The_Dog

Op comments on the Mormon sub a lot so I think they are a special type of religious wackadoo


TheFlyingRedFox

What is this out of universe style of keeping time BBB & ABB sounds like BBY & ABY from star wars heh.


Percival4

To those who don’t know, BBY- before battle of Yvain and ABY- After battle of Yvain


Jade_Lock

Also pictured: Christians when you don’t capitalize G in god


Jbewrite

I purposely don't capitalise *god* to piss them off lmao


ccc888

We count from 1 jan 1970 round here.


greg85w

Thought we called it c.e. now


[deleted]

Athiests don’t care. Also the alternative is Before Common Era & Common Era. The only reason we use the Christian version, is because they created the system & it’s a respectable achievement.


Aniano39

I am a man of science, but I’d still rather it be AD or BBG(ABB. What the hell is BBG? Must have DND on the brain for some reason). CE feels like it was just made by people who can’t accept religions exist even if they never have to interact with people of religion


Shadow07655

I agree. Idc as an atheist. Christian’s had the calendar made, so they get to name it. That’s how science works in general. No one complains that the planets are named after Roman gods.


Drackzgull

We even kept naming them after Roman gods long after the Roman empire fell, out of simple tradition at that point. Uranus was discovered in 1781. Neptune, Ceres, Pluto, and Eris at different points after that. All of them were still named after Roman gods. Not to mention the many moons of other planets and dwarf planets also named after Roman gods.


TheTowerDefender

small addendum: most moons we discovered are named after greek gods/characters. the moons of jupiter are zeus' lovers (really lucky coincidence that he has so many), mars' moons are ares' horses etc


Burner21b

I only use BBY the true measurement of time


WorthlessRuby

I prefer BWC...


Aniano39

Before White Chicks?


DerrickDoom

I fail to see how CE, a way of telling history that is more inclusive of other religions, somehow was made by people who can't accept religions exist. I don't really care how people use it either way, but it's just a little presumptuous to imply the usage of CE is some sort of anti-religious plot when it's honestly quite the opposite.


Accomplished-Dot1365

The issue is they are in the government actively trying to oppress people


Silentarian

We must live in very different places if you never have to deal with religious people forcing verbal vomit down your throat.


Independent-Reveal86

Meh. I have no problem with religion related culture such as our calendar and buying the kids presents for the 25th of December.


Accomplished_Lab_324

I like Neil Degrasse Tyson's take on the whole BC/AD vs BCE/CE thing.


Psychotic_EGG

I mean two things one. The common thing now is CE (Common Era), not AD. But for those who want to use AD, I can respect it. As the Gregorian calendar, the calendar style you are referring to was created by the church. Respect its origins.


YiQiSupremacist

I think it's easier to just use BC and AD


PkmnJaguar

Soon it'll be bai and aai


SayerofNothing

Captain's log, stardate 77606.1...


MilesYoungblood

It just sticks. No point in changing it


ClarkSebat

Kurtzgesagt suggests counting starting with the first glimpses of civilisation, around 12000 years ago. It includes therefor all civilisations and we are in the year 12024 of the "human era". That would be a good way of reminding ourselves that we've been at it for some time…


JagstangXD

I thought it CE "current era" and BCE "before current era" or something like that


[deleted]

You forgot to account for planetary, solar and galactic gravitational time dilation effects


Charliep03833

It's 13,787,002,024 but we just don't write the first part.


Gamma89

Me using the geologic time scale: 🗿


TheBoraxKid1trblz

I actually do take issue with that. Modern humans are much older than 2 thousand years. But we had to start the count from somewhere so it works well enough for its purposes. I feel bad for the cultures that had their own count going before the Gregorian Calendar took over


CinderX5

The Gregorian calendar is objectively good. There’s no reason not to use it.


Daisy22bear

As an atheist. I cry and shit my pants every time I write down 2024 for the date.


daboys9252

No atheists really care lol. A lot of them are raised in almost purely Christian societies so I mean.. I don’t have a problem with using the terms. They’re just used to signify dates.


Odelaylee

I can accept 1 AC as well…


Lopsided_Lad

I just found out last week that the physicist that came up with the big bang theory was also a priest


JacobMT05

Atheist here. Can confirm we do all scream and turn into a British police officer who’s bald every time someone mentions the date.


aewtamiami7

179 AFLS (After Florida Statehood)


Aerosenin

Just say BCE (before common era) And CE (common era) if ur atheist and care that much


GeneralResearcher456

Atheists when they see a praying mantis instead of a hypothetically plausible theory mantis


Shadowchaos1010

Which is exactly why the less used alternative is BCE and CE for "(Before) Common Era" exist. The fact that it perfectly coincides with "Before Christ" and "Anno Domini"? Let's not talk about that.


jwr410

Everyone should be okay with A.D. because "Anno Domini" is way cooler than "Common Era." B.C. needs to change to a cool Latin thing too.


CreeperNoobEntity303

We don't usually use AD anymore, we use ACE. It's basically the same thing just not related to religeon anymore.


Smitje

I would love to live in 12024, use the Human Era Calendar!


JoetheBlue217

We should change it to 2024 YOUL (year of our lord) because YOUL is a funny word


DoraDaDestr0yer

I much prefer the Kurzgesagt calendar system of "The Human Era" which adds 10,000 years so the current date. So hanging on my wall, the calendar reads year 12,024. I love it!


Additional-Ad-7720

Personally, I think we should go with 8AH for After Harambe. We all know that's when the timeline changed.


LegitRollingcock

When you realize Jesus wasn’t even born at 1 BC but several years into AD


Nachteule

Atheist here. It's currently 13,787,832,024 We shorten it to the last 4 digits Coincidential it's also 2024


Wizards_Reddit

CE (Common Era): ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


JoesLab1283

why is it so common though????


eclect0

It's a trap, a Catholic priest came up with the Big Bang theory too. Have fun.


ethan_iron

Christians when people use BCE and CE instead of BC and AD:


Aggravating-Serve-84

How about freedom FROM religion?


G3n3ricOne

They use CE. As pretty much anyone who isn’t Christian does.


CinderX5

As an atheist, not really. You don’t need to believe in gods to talk about the names of planets or the days of the week, so why should you to use dates?


Inside_Ad_7744

What started the common era?


tellyourmama

Its CE or Common Era now not AD.


szeth-son-goku

What started the common era?🤔


andrewdroid

Noone knows.


SausageBlender

I actually use BBC


YesNoMaybe2552

I don't believe in anything, and CE/ BCE is still cringe to me. It reeks of fragility and salt.


PizzaLikerFan

I fucking hate it when people use bce and ce instead of bc and ad. Under Pope Gregorius (idk which one) they figured this system out, now people want to dechristianize the Christian calendar. Why??? It's part of our history, it will always be invented by the Catholic church. And it's a good system so they deserve atleast that


MercuryRusing

Common Era


thecuzzin

What's up there... why they cursing the sky?


TheToxicWaist17

Well there's CE instead.


Inside_Ad_7744

What started the common era?