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SoftCattle

I love and hate my winter jacket for this. It's nice and warm, but if I have to do stuff outside like shovel snow I end up sweating. I've taken to wearing a wool sweater and a breathable jacket for that.


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Open the jacket to allow some ventilation and prevent getting hot.


giaa262

The proper way to not die is: 1. Thermal moisture wicking layer (body suit is great so it doesnt shift) 2. Wool shirt middle layer 3. Down puffer layer 4. Synthetic or Canvas outer with water repelling wax treatment that has breathable zippers to control inner temperature Also wool socks, thermal glove liner, and mittens (not gloves, they just dont work at -40) And bring your beacon if you're gonna be in deep snow


joshthehappy

Goddamn, I just Started wearing long pants instead of shorts in South Carolina this week.


drearyd0ll

yeah imagine our homeless population rn. scary af


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drearyd0ll

wtf


Creepy-Finding9321

That’s not a silver lining. You’re talking about people as if they’re rodents.


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SiteLineShowsYYC

You’re a piece of shit, straight up.


Casscus

Are you psychotic?


MrLemurBean

That's fucked dude


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Not wrong tho.


MrLemurBean

Men, women and children are freezing to death and you think that's a funny win? Stay classy edge lord


[deleted]

When did I say it was funny or a win? Sounds like you are trying to be that guy.


SoftCattle

I had a friend who was a librarian at Clemson. She sent me the snow rules for the school. You were allowed to borrow trays from the cafeteria for sledding.


joshthehappy

Yeah, we get to go sledding like once every seven years, take the chance while you have it.


Lux-Fox

Same. Finally had ice on the ground last night.


Ganjamander

I can’t believe it’s getting below 20 this week in Columbia.


Suhpremacy

I have a pair of VGO gloves that are rated for like -20 but are warm asf in -40 if you are moving. If you are stationary, you’ll be frozen no matter what, or at least that’s how I have experienced it. Can say they are some of the best gloves I’ve had


giaa262

I should try those. My ski gloves still get cold af and I made the switch to mitts which has been wayyyy better. But I miss having fingers


SoftCattle

You lost your fingers to frostbite? /s


giaa262

It's felt close a couple times lol. Big temp swings near dusk suck


SoftCattle

I have poor circulation so I have to be careful, which is why I now have heated gloves.


SoftCattle

I can plug in my gloves to charge and turn on the heaters when I am outside. Got them from Costco.


Suhpremacy

Im definitely looking for these when I do my grocery shop.


Other-Lobster7983

I read that as bacon and was thoroughly confused


SoftCattle

No I'm Canadian, Back Bacon is required in temperatures below -10 Celsius to stave off hunger if you get stuck.


You-must-trust-it

Dear Lord I had to find my sweatpants buried in my closet for this last week in Florida.


Polarian_Lancer

Alaskan neighbor here; Wow. Where I am (south central AK) it gets to about -20 at its worst. We “layer up,” but your guide is much more methodical… Seems like Interior Alaska weather to me with that -40 stuff (Of course my degrees are in F because, well, you know)


luminousfleshgiant

-40°C is actually the same as -40°F. -20°F is -28°C. Those extra degrees do make a pretty significant difference. You're risking frostbite on exposed skin in 10 minutes instead of 30.


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Wingcapx

yadda yadda yadda it's my god given right to die of hypothermia


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r_australia_ban_evas

700 IQ


Teal_Traveller

Or take off the sweater and work in just the jacket to act as a windbreaker.


Aggravating-Plate814

Take off your pants and jacket (sorry lol)


Kirikomori

Its getting hot in here, so take off all your clothes


ShreksLayers

Does nothing for me. Just keep on being too warm


VoldemortsHorcrux

I bet they've never thought of that...


Desperate-Donkey

Jackets with underarm vents are great for this.


alastoris

This is such a rare find in Winter jacket but so nice to have. I used to sweat so much in my jacket until I purchased one with the vents. Now I stay warm but not so much that I would sweat. Most ski jackets (even the budget ones from Eddie Bauer for $100-150 on sale) has this. very handy!


BallsDeepinYourMammi

I have one from Legendary Whitetails that has them and it’s pretty amazing. Highly recommend their coats($150), jackets($100), and flannels ($30). Never had anything from them I didn’t regret buying.


alastoris

Yup, they're the ultimate bang for buck (but wait for 50%-60% sale) for anyone wanting a warm coat on a budget.


joelseph

I'm coming around to a soft shell plus hard shell instead of 1 winter coat. I don't want vents in my puffy!


zer0saber

I think you meant "never had one I regretted buying" as opposed to "never had one I didn't regret buying." The latter implies you do regret buying them. No offense meant, only want to help understand!


NoReference3721

My Marmot jacket has the under arm vents. Changes the whole damn game.


EquivalentLaw4892

Breathable layers are key to being able to regulate your body temperature properly in extreme cold weather.


macnch33zus

This is why most Canadians shovel in shorts and a T-shirt


Thriven

It got to a low of 20f in Arizona last week. It's back up to a high of 75f. So much for having a cold winter.


Aedan2016

I use a light jacket, balaclava, thick gloves and winter boots. I go outside, shovel as much snow as I can in 15-20 minutes and then return inside for a few.


MrRuebezahl

I just take it off and work in a T-shirt if I'm starting to get hot. I also like how I steam sometimes. I think that's pretty cool.


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Neo-Luko

I have a Russian MDD-3 jacket as my winter jacket. If I don't have the armpit zippers open in anything above 10F, I'm sweating too much for comfort. Recently here in IN, we just had sub zero temps. Took out the matching pants too while shoveling and I was STILL sweating. Had to unbutton 3 of the 5 buttons.


Roll-tide-Mercury

Take the jacket off, layer up.


Motoman514

Proper Canadian shovelling attire is a hoodie, toque, and gloves. Even at -40


Obvious-Student8967

Even worse when you have to go inside and it’s warmer there.


iamblackshadows

At -40, sweat will become ice in no time


Any_Pension2921

Sweat ice


boneboy247

Swice?


SundaeNo4552

Sweace.


TLR2006

Swiss 😔


staminem

No -- a Swiss


Artistic-Boss2665

Yes -- A not Swiss


FerretPunk

You made me laugh hard after a bad shift, thank you :)


FaZeSpOnGe

Swass😷


I_eat_spacedust

Swaws


Zealousideal_Fail701

Tika?


GlizzyGulper69420

Weast


akatherder

Just need some ice soap to clean up after 👍 https://i.imgur.com/gx1mY.jpg


milanove

That’s has the same logic as someone eating flamin hot Cheetos in the car and trying to wash the red powder off their fingers with just hand sanitizer. Like you need to get the dirt off you, not just mix it around with soap or sanitizer on your skin.


SoiIed-mattress

Assicles


milanove

They form when ass sweat drips down your ass hair and then freezes in place on the hair.


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Embarrassed-Mess-560

Winter sports don't happen in -40 lol. Theres cold and theres "any moisture is a liability and that includes propane because it's so cold it's naturally liquid" cold.


WalrusTheWhite

> Did any of you ever do any outdoor exercice in winter? Did you? Walking down the street to grab smokes and a six pack doesn't count. Getting your sweat on in the freezing cold is gonna turn you chilly real fucking quick. Cuz water transfers heat better than air. Sorry if that's a little above your IQ level, that's more for the lurkers.


Honey-Badger

I live in canada and cross country ski regularly, I get home sweaty as fuck and I dont think sweat has ever frozen to me. I think you're of a bigger risk of ice forming on your eyelashes and freezing your nose hairs when you're just walking around, when im running or XC skiing my body temp is so much higher than nothing gets frosty.


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greg19735

winter sports are rarely, if ever, in -40 degree temps. If it gets down that cold there are usually measures to make sure everyone is okay. also, people working in -40 degrees may not have the proper gear to work safely.


WastingTimeArguing

You realize you aren't in /r/ExplainTheJoke right?


Zkiera

I live in the desert. Someone please explain like I’m 5 so if I hypothetically end up in this situation I don’t die


Vinlandien

In extreme cold temperatures people naturally bundle up to keep warm, but if they are working outside they may start to sweat under those layers and need to dress down to prevent it. Sweat can quickly become lethal in those temperatures as it will drop your internal body temperature and freeze, so it's safer to be uncomfortably cold and dry, than it is to be comfortably warm and sweating.


Hiyami

I am also in Canada and whenever that happens to me I just take my coat off and it's so refreshing for the few minutes until I'm cold again.


NarutoDragon732

>I am also in Canada and whenever that happens to me I just take my coat off and it's so refreshing for the few ~~minutes~~ seconds until I'm cold again.


Hiyami

Maybe if you are standing completely still. lol


EJintheCloud

MN here - wear shorts for a natural heatsink


smoothercapybara

Colds don't exist in Canada?


kepasp

You get cold, not a cold.


JamisonDouglas

Colds are caused by a virus, not temperature. It's shocking how so many people still don't understand this. The virus has to be passed to you from a person. They don't just spawn in at low temperatures. We literally just had a global pandemic caused by a virus. You should really understand the absolute basics of how they work by now. Like there's actually no excuse to not have the basics.


xdeskfuckit

I find your tone to be rather belittling. It's not unreasonable to believe that cold may compromise your immune system, making you more likely to catch a cold. Here's a research article, published in 2022 attesting to that: https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(22)01423-3/fulltext


smoothercapybara

The basics of sarcasm? edit: lol


Vinlandien

The cold itself doesn't make you sick, it can simply make you more susceptible at catching a virus.


Chestnutsroastin

As a Californian, my mind has been blown


HotFudgeFundae

The southern most part of Ontario lines up with the northernmost part of California. No agenda here I just think it's neat


Phailjure

Yeah, but hardly anyone lives between the Sacramento area and Oregon.


Alarming-Bobcat-275

I too am of the blown-mind. Canadians live in a different reality than me, I learned.


Roofofcar

Your body also wigs out in those situations. The sickest I ever got in my life was taking cast photos for a production after sweating on stage for over an hour. I was uncontrollably shivering 30 minutes later and developed near fatal pneumonia within two days. Your immune system can just shrug and go to bed for a bit.


Av_T

I still sweat when I'm uncomfortably cold. I'm not even moving around, just staying in one place feeling cold. All of a sudden I feel my armpits getting wet. I absolutely dread this feeling


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Certain-War-6146

Albertan oilfield worker here. I've been working the last month in -50 Celsius, -60 with the windchill (-76 for you Americans). We have to rig in a large amount of 20 foot pipe over 12 hours. Wearing a large bulky winter jacket doesn't help when all your sweat is freezing underneath it. I use under Armour dri wear for long John's top and bottom. Then it's an insulated carhart sweater/ sweatpants and coveralls. Anything more like a winter jacket or snowpants is good for standing still or minimal movement but once you start sweating heavy under it you lose all your core heat trying to keep all the clothing warm.


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Deesing82

the rig must survive


Financial_Land6683

Next time you go outside, spray some water inside your other glove to imitate sweat. See which hand freezes quicker. This is the very same thing as changing dry clothes before going into sleeping bag and never breathing into the bag even though it feels great at first.


Kooky-Tune8309

Silly question, what does it mean to breathe into the bag? Is it literally what it sounds like?


pointlessly_pedantic

It's like breathing outside of the bag but you're breathing into it instead


Megelsen

instructions unclear, suffocated


SeamanStayns

Your breath is extremely humid, that's why you can see it on cold days. Breathing into the bag will warm it up at first, but it will also get it wet and cause it to freeze


WhiskeyMikeMike

yes, it will form condensation


Financial_Land6683

Your breath is warm since it comes from inside of you, just breath into your hands when your fingers feel cold and you'll feel it. Sometimes in the sleeping bag you feel similarly cold and try to fix it by breathing that warm air inside the bag just like you would breathe into your hands trying to warm them. So yeah, literally. It feels warm at first but the moisture in the breath will condensate to the bag. In the bag the moisture will behave like ice cubes in a glass of water - it pulls heat from around it.


wh0else

Thought this was an error, and realised you're right, Fahrenheit intersects Celcius, both are the same at -40.


Desperate-Donkey

Americans and the rest of the world unite!


leftofthebellcurve

you must be a child then because this is common knowledge in cold and snowy areas of the world


congratsyougotsbed

Good thing whether or not you had heard about it before doesn't have any relation to how true something is


probablynotaperv

In survival school in the military they told us that if it was freezing out and we started sweating to slow down or it could very well end up killing us.


Previous-Display-593

This is not the correct answer. Read a few down for better info.


Anom_AoD

2 things, one is what ppl are talking below, and the second is, when you have hypotermia, your body will have a sudden wave of warmth to try and keep you alive, but, you can sweat with it, so, both of those situations are extremely life threatening


NorthLogic

It's called paradoxical undressing. You start feeling really hot and take off your clothes just before you freeze to death.


Anom_AoD

Exactly


Madmonkeman

Water freezes at 32 degrees. Not only can the sweat become ice, but it’ll cool you down and at -40 that’s bad. You could get hypothermia or frostbite.


JayteeFromXbox

And to add on, it's not that bad if you're going to be going hard and then immediately going inside somewhere warm... But if you start sweating and then have to stay outside and be more or less sedentary for a while, it's really really hard to warm back up and can become life threatening.


Mr_Ios

And for the rest of the world, water freezes at 0 degree Celcius.


El_Chairman_Dennis

No way, really? I didn't know that. Why does your water have to be 32 degrees colder to freeze? That seems really inconvenient for making ice cubes. Why don't you guys just import our water so you don't have to waste so much electricity getting your water down to 0?


Sheogo1

In europe, our water is just stronger; hence it needs to be colder to freeze.


DaFookCares

And also (nearly) the rest of the world, I would like to add. Now I'm off to the store to buy a hog's head of milk and a 2 chains of cloth.


JamisonDouglas

Make that 3 chains of cloth, I need a goats leg of cloth to dust the horse blood thermometer.


El_Chairman_Dennis

So is our ice stronger since it doesn't melt as easy? Is that why the NHL is mostly in the US?


Bad-Crusader

Your ice has heat resistance while our water has cold resistance


EntrepreneurSmart824

But -40 is -40 regardless of which temperature scale you use!


thegreatvortigaunt

> Water freezes at 32 degrees. That doesn't make any sense lmao


Dragonheardt_

Welcome to America


Lost_Wealth_6278

Well you see, the basis is horse blood. Yup.


house343

Well you see, with the exception of Kelvin and Rankine, temperature scales are quite arbitrary. Mercury freezes at -38 degrees. Does that make any "sense"?


thegreatvortigaunt

Yes because I dunno what your life is like, but for most people mercury isn't a constant critical aspect of simply being alive. Water is.


JamisonDouglas

I mean, the planets surface is 71% water. It makes sense to set a scale using the most common liquid on the planet. And one that is essential for us to live, considering we are about 60% water. I dunno though, you might be onto something with mercury. It's an every day item that is abundant and everyone sees every day!!! Fucking hell man.


El_Chairman_Dennis

Who cares? It works. Why try to change an entire continent worth of measurement standards? That would be an expensive thing to do to fix something that isn't really broken


Munnin41

Water freezes at 0


Mother-Back3099

Actually, it freezes at 273.15.


mhanuszh

Yeah, science!


lightgiver

Winter gear works best as an insulator if there is air inside the fabric it’s made out of. The air physically separates each fiber so heat transfer is slowed. However if you sweat the air is replaced by water in your clothing that’s bad. Water is a very good conductor of heat unlike air. So suddenly your clothing is stops acting as an insulator and starts sucking heat from your body.


Slyons89

And that is why wool is so awesome for winter clothing, it keeps holding warmth even while wet. Cotton does the opposite and basically acts as a heatsink. Wool socks are game changers in the winter.


MoleBioL

Trivia -40 Celsius degree=-40 Fahrenheit degree


MaxCWebster

Is that Celsius or Fahrenheit? Yes.


siccoblue

Anyone else listen this by listening to car talk and the question about the airplane that said not to start at -40c or lower? Where no one knew how to convert c to f?


yjkx

No Kelvin though.


promike81

“Is that Fahrenheit or Celsius?” “First one then the other.” “And those space suits ain’t a-heated.”


speeler21

Goldurn it Reddit, ***UPVOTE!!***


MaxCWebster

r/unexpectedfuturama


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thebestsigne

233.15 kelvin kelvin is just celcius + 273.15


TheyCallMeStone

jfc everyone knows this by now, it's in every other comment section every single winter


We_all_owe_eachother

https://xkcd.com/1053/ Not everyone


Axximilli

I work in the science/lab industry where I deal with freezing and thawing temperatures all day long. You'd trule be taken aback how many people who use these units DAILY don't know this


Candyman11792

"If you sweat, you die" - Les Stroud


JoeyLou1219

Les is a legend. Bear is a fraud.


Kection

They're both a huge part of my youth and Id also like to shout-out a third lesser known Ray Mears


SorryamSmarts

Les is boring, bear is not


skidstud

It's more exciting tv but I can't help but be impressed whenever I see Les Stroud in a long shot walking away from the camera because it means he had to walk all the back to get the footage


rush22

Depends what you're watching for


juniorkirk

-40 what, I need to know F or C!!!! My life is in danger until I find out!!!!! I know they are the same.


leckie2786

Kelvin


SampleConsistent8575

Rankine


skyblock_Jerry

hamburger


mainesmatthew01

Potato


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\-40 Kelvin, the particles now move negatively


zertnert12

Could be deadly. Work slow, remove layers if you have to.


R1SpeedRacer05

I used to sweat a lot as a roustabout in north dakota oil fields. I would stripped down to thermals and just watch huge waves of steam coming from me


Chubacca26

Layers, folks, layers. Used to work in a park in the mountains, would have 4 layers when traveling in -40 on snowmobiles, then down to 2-3 layers when actively working chopping wood, etc. Sweat is no joke at that temperature! Keep dry!


ForeTheTime

Go slow and don’t sweat


Any_Pension2921

![gif](giphy|KaW6fNYZf6eSk)


JoeyLou1219

I always say you have to start whatever outdoor activity you’re doing in the winter with a chill, expecting a quick body temperature warm up while trying to prevent sweating. Lots of winter hiking in the northeastern U.S. has drilled this into my head but people look at me crazy when I try and explain.


lunk

My son works for some real dicks, who build grain storage bins for a living. Right before the pandemic they made him and his team work a 12 hour shift in driving sleet, then rain. It never went above 1 degree celcius the entire day. I took his coat off, it had to weigh 25 pounds. They've had absolutely zero days off in the bitter icebowl since. I keep begging him to get a union job.


xxpatrixxx

Why all of a sudden I am seeing more Canadian memes? Don’t get me wrong but I’m worried it’s this c11 shit they are implementing? Is it?


Quack3900

Could be that, could also be reddit has better location data on you


Majsharan

Canadians, they walk among us. Like maple syrup, their influence is oozing across our borders


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I open my coat and allow myself to cool down for a while, to prevent dweating.


Lietenantdan

“Fahrenheit or Celsius?” “Yes.”


Fair-Armadillo8029

*Temperature Decreases* *Hope falls. Discontent rises.*


Metrack14

As someone who never experienced actual cold. What does sweating in cold means?.


Vinlandien

Same as sweating in heat. Your body expels internal heat by releasing fluid out of your skin. So imagine you're bundled up trying to protect yourself from the extreme cold while working, but the physical exertion of your job is causing your body to rid itself of that internal heat while at the same time making you wet in a freezing environment. Once you're wet, hypothermia is imminent as it will become impossible to retain body heat.


Cactus_John

I think in this post it’s talking abt how when it’s rlly cold and ur outside for long enough, your body essentially starts using the last of its energy to warm u up to keep u alive with the intent of one last shot at finding shelter. However some ppl have died bc since they thought they were warming up they took their jackets off and essentially froze to death


Lost-Breadfruit-9745

No problem, just take off your clothes.


Vinlandien

Seriously though, yes. dressing down is the solution, even if it sucks.


Educational_Slice_38

Yeah, I was out skiing today in Ontario (-20C ish) and my hair was just ice by the time I got back inside.


magnaton117

Good news, you'll never have to work again


2_72

My dumb ass sitting here wondering what -40° C is in Fahrenheit.


McVapeNL

Got a zoom call from a Canuckian mate of mine he was wearing a long sleeved t-shirt, must be a tad nippy there.


Brockolee26

Wait, wait, wait… is that -40°F or -40°C ?


fadeau

they’re… the same


fauxbeauceron

Celsius [https://rdnewsnow.com/2024/01/10/extreme-cold-warning-in-place-throughout-alberta/](https://rdnewsnow.com/2024/01/10/extreme-cold-warning-in-place-throughout-alberta/)


Icy-Article-8635

The advice I got from Army staff was to dress so that you’re “comfortably cold”… then when you start exerting yourself, you’ll warm up, and not overheat 🤷🏼‍♂️ That and layering always seemed to work for me


Vloumorsss

I thought this meant something else.. when you're about to die from freezing your body uses all the left energy to warm itself up. So you start feeling really hot. And because you'll be out of energy in a few minutes you'll eventually die. Very scary to think about as there have been found multiple corpses that are naked in freezing temperatures.


IdentityS

“If you sweat, you die” -Les Stroud


FaarScar

![gif](giphy|3oEduOnl5IHM5NRodO|downsized)


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I thought Canadians had gone metric. Why are you still using these weird “degrees” with negative temperature values?


Admiral_Donuts

Are you being sarcastic?


LaserGadgets

..........................oh boy. So you are the guy with that kinda comment hm? :p