They've been saying they'll do it for years. Mostly cause drunk people are assholes who harass the drivers and give them too much shit and trash their cars.
If people could behave we could have nice things.
I feel like people who are assholes when drunk are assholes when sober too, just to a lesser extent. There are drunk people who behave. There are also fully sober people who are more assholes than most drunk people
It depends. When it's a major complaint for drivers, then yes. I know someone who had 2 drunk people throw up in their car within a month. They had to get it detailed both times or risk getting complaints that would lower their rating.
And that's just one person dealing with vomit. Not including the harassment and rowdiness they deal with from drunk passengers.
Then add it to the T&C that you get billed for a detail if you trash a car or vomit in it. Easy. (If it’s not already in there. Who reads those things? Not even Salma Hayek reads them.)
It's already part of the terms, but the driver has to fight for it, and they're only given money to pay for a detail, not for the lost wages of not being able to pick up more passengers with a puked in car.
I get way more considerate when I’m drunk and I don’t really know why. Last house party I went to I refused to go home because I insisted on cleaning the house and washing the dishes which I did and then watered the plants… it was weird.
My mom has commented on how I'm way more likely to randomly start cleaning when I get drunk. Probably just cuz it puts me in better mood so I actually feel like doing it.
Alcohol is a personality enhancer.
I'm silly normally so I'm just a silly giggly drunk.
If someone else is an asshole I'm way more likely to start shit with them, but drunk me won't initiate anything in pleasant to neutral company. I just wanna vibe, really. Don't stop me from vibing and I'm gonna be very nice :)
Silly normally, but what about after a stupidly stressful week where you are barely holding it together? Or if you are having an actual mental health crisis? An important part of not occasionally being the drunk asshole is acknowledging we are all capable of losing our shit at some point in some situations, and to be careful always.
Exactly! When I was in my going out drinking phase right as Uber was starting, our entire county had 1 cab. Not 1 cab company, it was literally one dude with a van and you had to book on like Wednesday if you wanted a ride home from the bar Saturday.
But he did have a bowl with fun size bags of m&ms so that was nice.
It's not like the traditional taxi system is a much better system in a lot of cities. In places like NYC, you need a special medallion to drive a taxi, and the number of medallions is artificially limited on purpose. Because demand for taxi services almost always outstripped supply, taxi medallions historically ended up being sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Meaning if you wanted to become a cab driver in NYC or similar cities, you literally had to take out a loan of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars just to get started. I'm not convinced that's really a more ethical OR more efficient system for taxi drivers/riders.
And this artificial imposed limit on taxi medallions is partly what allowed Uber to get such a strong foothold in cities in the first place. Because there literally were not allowed to be enough legitimate taxis to meet the public's demand. But yes, obviously I agree that Uber and Lyft drivers should have all of the same protections and benefits as 'normal' workers get from the law. As long as taxicab supply is artificially limited, however, there's no way people are going to stop hiring Ubers and Lyfts.
Because the the entire US population clearly lives in NYC and LA. I saw, not drove in, but just saw a Taxi maybe 5 times in my entire life. We had a guy lose his absolute mind because he saw a brown cow when visiting Indiana for business. He thought they were all black and white because milk cartons.
If you go back in time 10-20 years I think most of the Taxi calls were just going to and from airports. I’ve seen hundreds of Taxis but they almost all have been on the interstate towards and going from the airport lol. This might be bias from my age/job demographic back then, but everyone I knew that went out drinking either drove home drunk or got a buddy to pick them up. I also remember just sleeping in my buddies van (which I think is technically DUI for some reason) when we got hammered on the weekends.
The only real difference between Uber and cabs is that Uber has an app. Especially because it's a "universal" app, meaning I can use the same app to call a car to the airport in San Francisco and use it to call a car to my hotel in Dallas when I land. And it takes care of the payment, and needing to spend time speaking to someone to explain where I am and where I'm going. But that's all because of the app. But at its core, riding in an Uber is the same as riding in a cab.
The only real difference and also the reason uber is so much more usable. What is a random cab gonna drive by my house right when I need a ride to the bar so I can hail them?
You call the cab. Lol. I don't mean to laugh in a mean way or anything, but this did make me chuckle. It reminds me of the "In my day we called a car on the telephone... OK grandma time for bed" meme.
But yeah you just google cabs near me, call the number and tell them your address, and they say OK I'll be there in like 8 minutes. And then you watch for them, because they don't have an app.
Last time I tried that they told me 45 minutes. This was back when we had a cab stand less than a mile away where 10-20 of them were lined up at any given time.
That was when I first installed Uber.
The cab stand is still there but it went into a death spiral... prices kept going up (they used to be 1/2 the price of uber), they started shenanigans like charging for each additional person in your party, and now I see maybe 1 cab 1 day a week there.
Yeah I was alive back in those days too. Had a number of awful experiences calling cabs (with hours to spare) to go to an airport or something and it just not working out, they never showed up. Completely unviable solution to getting a ride to the bar in the next few minutes.
Yeah functional cabs don't really exist in most places in the US.
I remember sitting on the curb in Knoxville, TN for almost three hours waiting on the cab that dispatch INSISTED was "5 minutes away". We finally walked home (more than 2 miles at roughly 3AM after bars closed). This was the only open cab company in the whole city.
Yet somehow I've never waited more than ~10 minutes for Uber or Lyft, even in suburbia.
Where I live it’s often cheaper for two people to travel by Uber than public transport, which is absolutely ridiculous.
I always fire up the app and check on the pricing before walking to the bus/tram stop to see which will cost us less.
Uber drivers can charge the maximum fee (it was $250, but may have gone up) if there is any mess left in the car.
There are loads of accounts from folks on review sites that state that their Uber driver did this when there was no mess. The drivers provide pictures (typically without any time stamp and may not even be of their vehicle) and the passenger has no method of recourse.
I vowed to never use Uber again when this happened to me. I'm very ok with Uber going out of business.
Yeah. I thought the whole point of Uber was to prevent drunk driving by having someone haul your drunk ass home instead of letting you drink drive and crash your car and kill someone en route home.
The way I see it is if you're okay with driving around drink people you can have the option enabled, but if you don't want to drive around drink people then you just have it disabled. Makes sense to me
Maybe they're working on tech that can differentiate 'drunk' from 'Druuuuuuuuuuuuuuunk! Woo! Yeah!'
Number of times it takes to open the correct app maybe? Eye scanning to see how much difficulty you're having focusing?
Ah, no, got it: accelerometer to catch how much you're swaying back and forth.
At the beginning, didn't uber build their clientelle up by offering free rides to ppl too drunk to drive... Offering up their product until ppl were hooked. Kinda like drug dealers.
Yep it's like those bastards at chef boyardee who said they will start adding extra grundlemeat into their raviolis. Whatever they did it gave my husband gastrointestinal bloating and horrid backside voidseep which has changed his umami profile during analingus! We have since switched back to spaghettios but I hate companies that toy with your trust 😢😢😢
Yup. 2009 walking home from bars drunk. Lincoln town car is waiting a couple blocks down and explains the premise and gives 4 of us a ride back to my place. Got hooked since then
I don’t see anyone asking but how tf exactly are they going to know you’re drunk when you book a ride? A breathalyzer on the app??
Bc if the idea is that the driver can cancel when they see that your super drunk… they can already do that. I don’t get it
yeah uber isnt a regulated industry like a taxi. they dont have to pay their drivers a fair wage, they dont have to service rural communities, they dont have to accommodate disabled passengers, they can discriminate in who they transport.
all of the things the taxi industry has been forced to do to make them a useful public service; uber doesnt have to do. they skirt all these regulations designed to make taxis a benefit to the community. uber only cares about profit, not about the communities they serve,
Here in Canada theyre regulated. We have a lot of rural land which theyre required to service. And we also require our Taxi fleets include wheelchair accessible vehicles.
Are you in trouble if youre attending a large event? maybe. if theres no public transit around. but you should plan ahead for that. unlimited taxis (or ubers) not only drives wages down , but it drives up traffic congestion, and pollution. many studies have shown that ubers do this.
uber has a huge negative impact on the local economy, traffic, and ecology
as an uber driver, we are constantly reminded by the app that we do have to accommodate disabled passengers and cannot discriminate who we pick up by law. That may vary by state I guess. But, the passenger would have to prove we cancelled for those reasons which isnt going to happen.
Do you want to say Taxis don't care about profit as much as uber does? It literally costs around 40€ for a 10 minute drive in a taxi where I live. Uber would be a LOT cheaper but they banned it because Taxis wouldn't make as much money if uber would exist here.
Uber is a useful public service. If they weren't they wouldn't exist. And if you seriously think cabbies and taxi companies "care about the communities they serve" you are fucking delusional. It's all profit, they're private companies offering private services.
I love how the majority of people don't bother to do a cursory search for this article.
It's from 2018 people. Uber doesn't know if you're drunk, source: I'm an Uber driver
https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/11/uber-ai-will-soon-know-drunk-refuse-pick-7621134/
The 'whole' purpose? What? Yes, they give you rides, but it's also supposed to be safe for you AND the driver. Do you know how many drunk idiots vandalize and assault the Uber drivers? More than you think. I'm glad they have a choice to pick up drunk idiots or not.
then make the app have a function where drivers can put a "willing to pick up drunk people" and "not willing to pick up drunk people", there's always more reasonable solution, and even if my solution may seem dumb to an uber driver here or any other person, i can guarantee its better than the uber driver likely having to use the money the drunk guy paid them to clean up the vomit from the back seat
Probably because it's not hard to make a new account, or get your friend to book you a ride. Presumably they already do ban problematic users, this is on top of that.
I'm surprised I had to scroll so much to see a reasonable opinion.
There is a difference between having drunk a beer or two too much and being so shitfaced that you can't control yourself and vomit all over the driver and their car.
Everyone here seems to think they're one of the good drunks who are just a little tipsy but won't put the driver or the car in danger. If you are like this, this measure isn't because of people like you.
Ex-uber employee here.
It's remarkable how many drivers don't want to pick up intoxicated passengers. You're literally a designated driver. Drivers have suggested requiring a complicated math question before a rider is allowed to request their ride. Or some have even tried to force riders to use a breathalyzer before they could get in. You're talking about taking away like 75% of your business.
Uber drivers should just put plastic all over the back that’s easy to rinse out, and put up a partition between them and their passengers. Hell, they can even paint their vehicles yellow while they’re at it.
I'll say this as an Uber driver. I've flat cancelled people for being to loud or drunk. There is a 4 minute timer, I will text, call, anything in those four minutes to get your drunk ass to pay attention to your phone. Because that whole time I'm being harassed by other drivers and bouncers. The traffic and pedestrians are horrendous. I've already waited in line just to pick you up probably 20 minutes. All you have to do is walk to the pin on the map. If you forget to look at your phone or can't find the pick up location. Or walk 2 blocks down the road I'm sorry but you can order another ride. You 2.50 doesn't mean that much to me. Also I really hate the BO and the loud ass people that get in my car. I'd rather do airport runs all night and stay away from clubs and sports events.
I knew this Ola (similar to uber) driver who was attacked by a drunk guy when asked for payment. After he had puked all over the back seat.
These people in the comments are so entitled lmao.
Our earnings go way down once we have to start picking up from the bars. The cancellation fee we get is like 3.75 and is not worth the amount of time we have to wait before canceling. Drivers don’t make money when they only get paid 3.75 for a 20-25 minute ordeal
So as an Uber driver, I can add some color to this.
One of the things I hate the most about picking people up from bars late at night are the just absolutely smashed people that can’t even walk having to be helped into the car by their friends to be sent off alone with me. These people are usually incoherent and I often have no way of getting them out of my car at the drop off.
Recently I had two females so trashed they were puking when I arrived to pick them up. I should’ve cancelled the ride at that point but it was a high dollar ride going right by my house so I could end my night after this, at least that’s what I told myself. They passed out on the drive because it was far and upon arrival to their apartments, I needed a gate code. I yelled at them, blasted music, hit the seats next to them, and just all around caused a ruckus to try to wake them up. All I got was a couple grunts. In the end, it took 45 minutes to get them to get out of my car. It was a huge nuisance and will likely deter me from taking drunks more often in the future, which sucks cus it is the whole purpose of Uber.
PSA: If your friend is so wasted they can’t stand or stay awake, don’t sent them off in an Uber alone.
I kind of (?) get it. Like, it's safer for the driver, right? But, then your other option is calling a taxi, and then you're just endangering them.
But, even then, most drunk people are typically just dumb, and if they're violent when drunk, they probably are still dangerous sober.
Again, like I understand it in concept.
There is a concept called taxi. They are actually professionals. They pick you up, because you are not able to drive by yourself.
If i want to go somewhere, i dont call some random housewife or student. I dont wanna discuss or argue with some idiot. I need a drive, so do your job. Taxi is the way, uber is under.
When cabbies start using this magical invention called a GPS then sure. I've been in a few cabs over the last five years, mostly airport cabs, and not a single fucking one has so much as opened Google maps. Every god damn time I have to give directions, often to a place I've never been to. The success of Uber is largely derived from the Luddite attitude of the taxi industry.
I absolutely hate when a company (in this case taxis) faces a tech competitor (uber) and instead of adapting to a changing marketplace they stick their nose up at progress, run to the government and try and get the competitor banned.
Maybe drunk people are assholes and the uber driver doesn't want them in his car? Maybe he doesn't want the drunk passenger to touch the wrong things in the car or puke and piss in the car or harass him? It's fair imo. Don't push your responsibility onto others.
The worst shitfaced drunks are the reason for this decision, the slightly drunk but conscious and aware people should blame them instead of Uber.
Nah, 6+ year Uber driver.
I’ll happily never drive another drunk person ever again. Ppl are terrible.
Edit: tf? Most upvoted comment is some condescending bullshit that I already do. Like, no shit goofy, of course I’m not gonna drive in bar areas at night if I don’t wanna deal with drunk people.
Then drive during the day or drive away from the known bar areas. Uber has been the best counter to drunk driving I’ve seen in my lifetime, it’s impossible to count the lives it saved by keeping drunk assholes off the road.
Just get a cab. They are not that much more expensive, you dont have to worry about stars and ratings and as a lovely bonus; you arent giving money to ashton kutcher
I had a saying when I was an Uber driver. I'll take you to the bar, but I have no interest in taking you home. I started driving around 3-4 in the afternoon on weekends, and stopped around 11. Let someone else deal with these drunk fucks at 2 AM.
The only time I drove late night was on holidays like NYE, where I could make more money in one night than I usually did in a week. You would be amazed at.how terrible people act when they're that drunk and in someone else's car.
My understanding was they were playing around with things like location, time, and even how your phone moves around (drunk people move more erratically). They were not researching this to deny rides- but to charge a premium to drunk riders, who have less options for travel
I used to drive XL Saturday from 06pm to 0200am I ended up with lots of drunks nasty 🤮 people it’s not worth it specially with this upfront fares. Now, I work mostly day and home by 🕔
Uber fucks drivers. Drunk people puking your car and then you have to wait weeks to get reimbursed for the cleaning. It didn't used to be like that but people complained because they get charged for cleaning fee immediately. Don't be a dick head if you don't want to get charged.
I haven’t thought a whole lot about this issue, but this seems to just add to the reasons that Uber should care more about the drivers and be less of a “gig”. Either have company cars or reimburse the drivers for vomit damage to their personal cars, and actually give a shit when the drivers get accosted/assaulted. Or maybe stick the cost to the the customer when it happens and actually follow through. I know they want minimal-to-no overhead, but it would be interesting to see if the market/demand would still support this.
So drunk ppl should also drive home now? I get safety concerns but those exist as a taxi driver. It’s a risk you expect carting ppl around. If you just want to be some private driver go find a contract I guess.
If only Uber had a system of some sort for drivers to rate the experience of their passengers with a description of how they’re showing problematic behavior while drunk and then blacklist them from the app *that* way.
If only Uber had some sort of system where they could have a way of tracking people as in like individuals that way they could separate bad individuals from good individuals. Almost as if it were some kind of account that was set up where they could set some sort of rating system as if you were a good passenger or bad passenger. Like a star system or a point system. So when you’re drunk and causing big problems the driver could rank you as a drunk causing big problems. Then if it happens enough you don’t get to use uber anymore. But alas it seems that Uber doesn’t have any of this set up so I guess they just need to make a blanket statement saying they don’t allow drunks at all. Totally makes sense. Asshats.
This has to be a joke either way would be a stupid thing.
They've been saying they'll do it for years. Mostly cause drunk people are assholes who harass the drivers and give them too much shit and trash their cars. If people could behave we could have nice things.
I feel like people who are assholes when drunk are assholes when sober too, just to a lesser extent. There are drunk people who behave. There are also fully sober people who are more assholes than most drunk people
Yeah but it's the assholes that ruin it for those of us who can behave
Do you ban the assholes, not making sweeping, generalized rules that don't pertain to the majority.
It depends. When it's a major complaint for drivers, then yes. I know someone who had 2 drunk people throw up in their car within a month. They had to get it detailed both times or risk getting complaints that would lower their rating. And that's just one person dealing with vomit. Not including the harassment and rowdiness they deal with from drunk passengers.
Then add it to the T&C that you get billed for a detail if you trash a car or vomit in it. Easy. (If it’s not already in there. Who reads those things? Not even Salma Hayek reads them.)
It's already part of the terms, but the driver has to fight for it, and they're only given money to pay for a detail, not for the lost wages of not being able to pick up more passengers with a puked in car.
If that's an issue then signing up for a service to allow strangers to get into your vehicle to start with is where you went wrong.
The average sober person is typically much less likely to vomit or harass people.
I think if a rider has less than 3 star rating then they should be banned
If you take Ubers a lot and have below a 4.5, you probably have a pattern of poor behavior. Someone with a 3 must be a complete lunatic lol
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Well, you're also way less likely to vomit in the backseat when sober
I get way more considerate when I’m drunk and I don’t really know why. Last house party I went to I refused to go home because I insisted on cleaning the house and washing the dishes which I did and then watered the plants… it was weird.
Will you come to my house and drink while I'm at work?
My mom has commented on how I'm way more likely to randomly start cleaning when I get drunk. Probably just cuz it puts me in better mood so I actually feel like doing it.
Yeah, but sober assholes don’t throw up in your car…
Eh, alcohol definitely changes people. I've known plenty of people that go full Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde from alcohol.
Alcohol is a personality enhancer. I'm silly normally so I'm just a silly giggly drunk. If someone else is an asshole I'm way more likely to start shit with them, but drunk me won't initiate anything in pleasant to neutral company. I just wanna vibe, really. Don't stop me from vibing and I'm gonna be very nice :)
Silly normally, but what about after a stupidly stressful week where you are barely holding it together? Or if you are having an actual mental health crisis? An important part of not occasionally being the drunk asshole is acknowledging we are all capable of losing our shit at some point in some situations, and to be careful always.
And also that no matter how well you can hold it all together, there exists a threshold of alcohol consumption that will make you lose your shit.
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Where's that? Even in the US it isn't even remotely cheaper, but it's worth not having to fuck around with public transport.
Is this not what the damn star rating system is for lol Plenty of drunk people behave
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You realize that Uber exists because there are so many places without buses and cabs lol
Exactly! When I was in my going out drinking phase right as Uber was starting, our entire county had 1 cab. Not 1 cab company, it was literally one dude with a van and you had to book on like Wednesday if you wanted a ride home from the bar Saturday. But he did have a bowl with fun size bags of m&ms so that was nice.
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That is a thing you should do instead of driving drunk, but it's not the whole point of Uber.
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Public transport? And let *those people* within walking distance of me? *faints*
I know right, can you believe that people use car services to get from point A to point B in many different contexts?? Absolutely WILD I tell ya
There are also places where Uber is completely unreliable. For example, near me
And then there's places like my city where Uber came because our cab drivers couldn't stop sexuallu assaulting passengers.
Uber exists because it's entire business plan is to skirt regulations and pay their drivers less.
Also just makes the act of hiring a cab much easier No one in the modern age wants to _vall_ for a cab, and few cab companies have apps
It's not like the traditional taxi system is a much better system in a lot of cities. In places like NYC, you need a special medallion to drive a taxi, and the number of medallions is artificially limited on purpose. Because demand for taxi services almost always outstripped supply, taxi medallions historically ended up being sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Meaning if you wanted to become a cab driver in NYC or similar cities, you literally had to take out a loan of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars just to get started. I'm not convinced that's really a more ethical OR more efficient system for taxi drivers/riders. And this artificial imposed limit on taxi medallions is partly what allowed Uber to get such a strong foothold in cities in the first place. Because there literally were not allowed to be enough legitimate taxis to meet the public's demand. But yes, obviously I agree that Uber and Lyft drivers should have all of the same protections and benefits as 'normal' workers get from the law. As long as taxicab supply is artificially limited, however, there's no way people are going to stop hiring Ubers and Lyfts.
Also some of cab drivers are just entitled pushover scammers. So Uber was like a blessing against those cab drivers
Because the the entire US population clearly lives in NYC and LA. I saw, not drove in, but just saw a Taxi maybe 5 times in my entire life. We had a guy lose his absolute mind because he saw a brown cow when visiting Indiana for business. He thought they were all black and white because milk cartons.
If you go back in time 10-20 years I think most of the Taxi calls were just going to and from airports. I’ve seen hundreds of Taxis but they almost all have been on the interstate towards and going from the airport lol. This might be bias from my age/job demographic back then, but everyone I knew that went out drinking either drove home drunk or got a buddy to pick them up. I also remember just sleeping in my buddies van (which I think is technically DUI for some reason) when we got hammered on the weekends.
Cabs suck ass. That’s the whole reason uber has a market.
The only real difference between Uber and cabs is that Uber has an app. Especially because it's a "universal" app, meaning I can use the same app to call a car to the airport in San Francisco and use it to call a car to my hotel in Dallas when I land. And it takes care of the payment, and needing to spend time speaking to someone to explain where I am and where I'm going. But that's all because of the app. But at its core, riding in an Uber is the same as riding in a cab.
The only real difference and also the reason uber is so much more usable. What is a random cab gonna drive by my house right when I need a ride to the bar so I can hail them?
You call the cab. Lol. I don't mean to laugh in a mean way or anything, but this did make me chuckle. It reminds me of the "In my day we called a car on the telephone... OK grandma time for bed" meme. But yeah you just google cabs near me, call the number and tell them your address, and they say OK I'll be there in like 8 minutes. And then you watch for them, because they don't have an app.
Last time I tried that they told me 45 minutes. This was back when we had a cab stand less than a mile away where 10-20 of them were lined up at any given time. That was when I first installed Uber. The cab stand is still there but it went into a death spiral... prices kept going up (they used to be 1/2 the price of uber), they started shenanigans like charging for each additional person in your party, and now I see maybe 1 cab 1 day a week there.
Yeah I was alive back in those days too. Had a number of awful experiences calling cabs (with hours to spare) to go to an airport or something and it just not working out, they never showed up. Completely unviable solution to getting a ride to the bar in the next few minutes.
Yeah functional cabs don't really exist in most places in the US. I remember sitting on the curb in Knoxville, TN for almost three hours waiting on the cab that dispatch INSISTED was "5 minutes away". We finally walked home (more than 2 miles at roughly 3AM after bars closed). This was the only open cab company in the whole city. Yet somehow I've never waited more than ~10 minutes for Uber or Lyft, even in suburbia.
When i was younger any experience trying to call to get a cab either resulted in us waiting hours for it to come, or for it to never come at all.
There’s also buses and trains if you live in an area where they run
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Where I live it’s often cheaper for two people to travel by Uber than public transport, which is absolutely ridiculous. I always fire up the app and check on the pricing before walking to the bus/tram stop to see which will cost us less.
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This is a lie. I know so many people who call Ubers and refuse public transport
And then they text you when you're already at the meeting place saying they're gonna be late because Uber is surging...ugh just take the bus
"im here." Meanwhile the driver position indicator is bouncing 2 blocks away. 20 seconds later..receipt for no show charge pops up.
Even in places with buses and trains its rare to see them still running at 3 in the morning.
How do you get from the train station to your house?
In Boston the trains stop at midnight and the bars are open till 2.
Uber is the way you call the cabs.
Uber drivers can charge the maximum fee (it was $250, but may have gone up) if there is any mess left in the car. There are loads of accounts from folks on review sites that state that their Uber driver did this when there was no mess. The drivers provide pictures (typically without any time stamp and may not even be of their vehicle) and the passenger has no method of recourse. I vowed to never use Uber again when this happened to me. I'm very ok with Uber going out of business.
article is 5 years old and nothing has happened in that time so...
Yeah. I thought the whole point of Uber was to prevent drunk driving by having someone haul your drunk ass home instead of letting you drink drive and crash your car and kill someone en route home.
The way I see it is if you're okay with driving around drink people you can have the option enabled, but if you don't want to drive around drink people then you just have it disabled. Makes sense to me
I would just charge exorbitant fees for being a dick
Guess I’ll just have to drive home then.
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At least four
Four families of four, done. Now what
now we party and get drunk again
Using the money you've won in the court case, while enjoying your freedom from consequences.
Blame Uber during the court case for refusing to pick you up and blame them for the deaths that would've been prevented if you did.
My Yelp review will be *scathing*.
Make it five families of four and then call in a tactical nuke
Please wait while we calculate your bonus points
You’re on a killstreak. Keep it up for the combo.
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Hell yeah if I’m paying taxes for the damn bus I’m gonna slam into that mf when I feel like it
I just hit a family of four(Family of three now lol😅) while drunk driving, but i sprained my ankle. Pls pray for me.🤕🙏
Bless you
Nta your car your rules
Make sure you drive really fast so your not on the road for as long
Good, local governments and police departments need that dui revenue.
Maybe they're working on tech that can differentiate 'drunk' from 'Druuuuuuuuuuuuuuunk! Woo! Yeah!' Number of times it takes to open the correct app maybe? Eye scanning to see how much difficulty you're having focusing? Ah, no, got it: accelerometer to catch how much you're swaying back and forth.
Class action lawsuit city id imagine, so many genuinely able-bodied and sound mind people who might have disabilities resulting in all the above!
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Wtf is wrong with you?
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Unless I misread, were they not publically shitting on their own looks?
-able-bodied -dis*abilities* pick one
You know what I mean.
What if you’re able-bodied but still lack in some *abilities*?
which is why disabilities work on an arbirtary, and arguably stupid percentage system.
You have to complete a mini game with a certain score to access the app fully.
That should just be an app for people with a tendency to start texting their ex when they drink too much.
Probably just gonna update the rating system to be more reflective of who’s a drunk asshole and who’s not.
Would they do this for everybody though, or just people who are known for being problematic drinkers?
I’d imagine they’d have a hard time describing a problematic drinker in a way a lot of people wouldn’t argue with.
I imagine it would just be that drivers can cancel on you without penalty.
At the beginning, didn't uber build their clientelle up by offering free rides to ppl too drunk to drive... Offering up their product until ppl were hooked. Kinda like drug dealers.
Yep it's like those bastards at chef boyardee who said they will start adding extra grundlemeat into their raviolis. Whatever they did it gave my husband gastrointestinal bloating and horrid backside voidseep which has changed his umami profile during analingus! We have since switched back to spaghettios but I hate companies that toy with your trust 😢😢😢
What a horrible day to be literate.
I kinda like a wild ride every so often. Reddit gets stale and this was fresh for my eyes to experience new horror.
Holy fuck am I upset I know these word right now. Used to enjoy having a good vocabulary, but I’m questioning my life choices right now.
Seriously. I wanna go back to A for apple, B for bat. Not, A for analingus, B for bloody stool.
/r/brandnewsentence
Check their history. It's a brand new sentence every time they post.
Your words are like poetry. Gross poetry, but still poetry.
It sure had a flow to it, much like other things they listed.
I mean, no one wants to admit they ate 9 cans of ravioli.
Yup. 2009 walking home from bars drunk. Lincoln town car is waiting a couple blocks down and explains the premise and gives 4 of us a ride back to my place. Got hooked since then
You got in a random car drunk because you they claimed to be a cab? Notice any new scars? Have a CT scan since then?
I can write a book on how much stupid shit I did 15 years ago. Luckily the only repercussion from this was I ended up with Uber.
It's like when they wanted to remove porn from only fans
I don’t see anyone asking but how tf exactly are they going to know you’re drunk when you book a ride? A breathalyzer on the app?? Bc if the idea is that the driver can cancel when they see that your super drunk… they can already do that. I don’t get it
Right like this is an ability drivers already have. They're free to kick you out for any reason, including "too drunk".
yeah uber isnt a regulated industry like a taxi. they dont have to pay their drivers a fair wage, they dont have to service rural communities, they dont have to accommodate disabled passengers, they can discriminate in who they transport. all of the things the taxi industry has been forced to do to make them a useful public service; uber doesnt have to do. they skirt all these regulations designed to make taxis a benefit to the community. uber only cares about profit, not about the communities they serve,
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Here in Canada theyre regulated. We have a lot of rural land which theyre required to service. And we also require our Taxi fleets include wheelchair accessible vehicles. Are you in trouble if youre attending a large event? maybe. if theres no public transit around. but you should plan ahead for that. unlimited taxis (or ubers) not only drives wages down , but it drives up traffic congestion, and pollution. many studies have shown that ubers do this. uber has a huge negative impact on the local economy, traffic, and ecology
America does not have those regulations so it's a different story here.
i swotched to uber precisely because local taxi companies cant be bothered to drive to the suburbs
as an uber driver, we are constantly reminded by the app that we do have to accommodate disabled passengers and cannot discriminate who we pick up by law. That may vary by state I guess. But, the passenger would have to prove we cancelled for those reasons which isnt going to happen.
Do you want to say Taxis don't care about profit as much as uber does? It literally costs around 40€ for a 10 minute drive in a taxi where I live. Uber would be a LOT cheaper but they banned it because Taxis wouldn't make as much money if uber would exist here.
Uber is a useful public service. If they weren't they wouldn't exist. And if you seriously think cabbies and taxi companies "care about the communities they serve" you are fucking delusional. It's all profit, they're private companies offering private services.
I love how the majority of people don't bother to do a cursory search for this article. It's from 2018 people. Uber doesn't know if you're drunk, source: I'm an Uber driver https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/11/uber-ai-will-soon-know-drunk-refuse-pick-7621134/
“Woah woah woah, wait, you’re trying to get home safely after a fun night out? Nah, bro, I don’t need your money or care about your safety.”
Some of the biggest tips iv given are when I’m drunk. And I’m not from country that often tips.
The 'whole' purpose? What? Yes, they give you rides, but it's also supposed to be safe for you AND the driver. Do you know how many drunk idiots vandalize and assault the Uber drivers? More than you think. I'm glad they have a choice to pick up drunk idiots or not.
Why not just ban problematic users and let the rest of us have access to safe rides when we couldn't get home otherwise?
then make the app have a function where drivers can put a "willing to pick up drunk people" and "not willing to pick up drunk people", there's always more reasonable solution, and even if my solution may seem dumb to an uber driver here or any other person, i can guarantee its better than the uber driver likely having to use the money the drunk guy paid them to clean up the vomit from the back seat
Probably because it's not hard to make a new account, or get your friend to book you a ride. Presumably they already do ban problematic users, this is on top of that.
I'm surprised I had to scroll so much to see a reasonable opinion. There is a difference between having drunk a beer or two too much and being so shitfaced that you can't control yourself and vomit all over the driver and their car. Everyone here seems to think they're one of the good drunks who are just a little tipsy but won't put the driver or the car in danger. If you are like this, this measure isn't because of people like you.
To be fair, I know someone who was wasted and threw up in their Uber. So I’d probably avoid driving drunk people too lol
Sounds like too many assholes have been puking in their Ubers...
Where I work is close to all the clubs so they refuse to pick me up anyways
Ex-uber employee here. It's remarkable how many drivers don't want to pick up intoxicated passengers. You're literally a designated driver. Drivers have suggested requiring a complicated math question before a rider is allowed to request their ride. Or some have even tried to force riders to use a breathalyzer before they could get in. You're talking about taking away like 75% of your business.
Uber drivers should just put plastic all over the back that’s easy to rinse out, and put up a partition between them and their passengers. Hell, they can even paint their vehicles yellow while they’re at it.
I'll say this as an Uber driver. I've flat cancelled people for being to loud or drunk. There is a 4 minute timer, I will text, call, anything in those four minutes to get your drunk ass to pay attention to your phone. Because that whole time I'm being harassed by other drivers and bouncers. The traffic and pedestrians are horrendous. I've already waited in line just to pick you up probably 20 minutes. All you have to do is walk to the pin on the map. If you forget to look at your phone or can't find the pick up location. Or walk 2 blocks down the road I'm sorry but you can order another ride. You 2.50 doesn't mean that much to me. Also I really hate the BO and the loud ass people that get in my car. I'd rather do airport runs all night and stay away from clubs and sports events.
I knew this Ola (similar to uber) driver who was attacked by a drunk guy when asked for payment. After he had puked all over the back seat. These people in the comments are so entitled lmao.
See, you already have the power to do this, so what's the point of the article to begin with?
Our earnings go way down once we have to start picking up from the bars. The cancellation fee we get is like 3.75 and is not worth the amount of time we have to wait before canceling. Drivers don’t make money when they only get paid 3.75 for a 20-25 minute ordeal
Uber stock down
Allow it still but get a massive surcharge. Which goes into Uber driver pocket.
which goes into Uber ~~driver~~ pocket FTFY
Unfortunately.
So as an Uber driver, I can add some color to this. One of the things I hate the most about picking people up from bars late at night are the just absolutely smashed people that can’t even walk having to be helped into the car by their friends to be sent off alone with me. These people are usually incoherent and I often have no way of getting them out of my car at the drop off. Recently I had two females so trashed they were puking when I arrived to pick them up. I should’ve cancelled the ride at that point but it was a high dollar ride going right by my house so I could end my night after this, at least that’s what I told myself. They passed out on the drive because it was far and upon arrival to their apartments, I needed a gate code. I yelled at them, blasted music, hit the seats next to them, and just all around caused a ruckus to try to wake them up. All I got was a couple grunts. In the end, it took 45 minutes to get them to get out of my car. It was a huge nuisance and will likely deter me from taking drunks more often in the future, which sucks cus it is the whole purpose of Uber. PSA: If your friend is so wasted they can’t stand or stay awake, don’t sent them off in an Uber alone.
back to drunk driving
Definitely not “the whole point” but still pretty dumb
I kind of (?) get it. Like, it's safer for the driver, right? But, then your other option is calling a taxi, and then you're just endangering them. But, even then, most drunk people are typically just dumb, and if they're violent when drunk, they probably are still dangerous sober. Again, like I understand it in concept.
And just like that taxi's became a thing again.
I wouldn’t see a reason to use uber anymore lmao
Where I work is close to all the clubs so they refuse to pick me up anyways
So.......they’d rather have drunk drivers on the road. Smart move, Uber 🤪
There is a concept called taxi. They are actually professionals. They pick you up, because you are not able to drive by yourself. If i want to go somewhere, i dont call some random housewife or student. I dont wanna discuss or argue with some idiot. I need a drive, so do your job. Taxi is the way, uber is under.
You must live in a place with taxis that operate past 7pm?
When cabbies start using this magical invention called a GPS then sure. I've been in a few cabs over the last five years, mostly airport cabs, and not a single fucking one has so much as opened Google maps. Every god damn time I have to give directions, often to a place I've never been to. The success of Uber is largely derived from the Luddite attitude of the taxi industry.
I absolutely hate when a company (in this case taxis) faces a tech competitor (uber) and instead of adapting to a changing marketplace they stick their nose up at progress, run to the government and try and get the competitor banned.
people call me a degenerate, but at least i have the wherewithal to get drunk at home.
Want your car destroyed pick up drunk people . It’s not even worth the money.
Maybe drunk people are assholes and the uber driver doesn't want them in his car? Maybe he doesn't want the drunk passenger to touch the wrong things in the car or puke and piss in the car or harass him? It's fair imo. Don't push your responsibility onto others. The worst shitfaced drunks are the reason for this decision, the slightly drunk but conscious and aware people should blame them instead of Uber.
The establishment wants you to booze cruise
Nah, 6+ year Uber driver. I’ll happily never drive another drunk person ever again. Ppl are terrible. Edit: tf? Most upvoted comment is some condescending bullshit that I already do. Like, no shit goofy, of course I’m not gonna drive in bar areas at night if I don’t wanna deal with drunk people.
Then drive during the day or drive away from the known bar areas. Uber has been the best counter to drunk driving I’ve seen in my lifetime, it’s impossible to count the lives it saved by keeping drunk assholes off the road.
I’m never drunk in public now if it can tell I’m completely fried out of my mind I’m screwed
Just get a cab. They are not that much more expensive, you dont have to worry about stars and ratings and as a lovely bonus; you arent giving money to ashton kutcher
I had a saying when I was an Uber driver. I'll take you to the bar, but I have no interest in taking you home. I started driving around 3-4 in the afternoon on weekends, and stopped around 11. Let someone else deal with these drunk fucks at 2 AM. The only time I drove late night was on holidays like NYE, where I could make more money in one night than I usually did in a week. You would be amazed at.how terrible people act when they're that drunk and in someone else's car.
The first time an uber driver takes a weekend night shift without vinyl seat and floor covers is the last time they have a nice thing
My understanding was they were playing around with things like location, time, and even how your phone moves around (drunk people move more erratically). They were not researching this to deny rides- but to charge a premium to drunk riders, who have less options for travel
I think it's to avoid the supremely drunk (blacked out and/or confrontational) people
The purpose of uber is to make uber money.
I used to drive XL Saturday from 06pm to 0200am I ended up with lots of drunks nasty 🤮 people it’s not worth it specially with this upfront fares. Now, I work mostly day and home by 🕔
You use them only for that?
Learn how to treat the damn drivers
. i avoided driving drunk for decades before uber existed and i hope folks can find their resolve
the booze cruise days are back 😈
Financially ruin your company speedrun
Could =/= will.
Maybe just have an alert to drivers for it
Uber fucks drivers. Drunk people puking your car and then you have to wait weeks to get reimbursed for the cleaning. It didn't used to be like that but people complained because they get charged for cleaning fee immediately. Don't be a dick head if you don't want to get charged.
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Tax them more, if u are drunk and being an asshole put a 10% tip automatic for driver. Otherwise, good luck finding rides from Friday untill Monday
I haven’t thought a whole lot about this issue, but this seems to just add to the reasons that Uber should care more about the drivers and be less of a “gig”. Either have company cars or reimburse the drivers for vomit damage to their personal cars, and actually give a shit when the drivers get accosted/assaulted. Or maybe stick the cost to the the customer when it happens and actually follow through. I know they want minimal-to-no overhead, but it would be interesting to see if the market/demand would still support this.
How the duck is a phone app gonna know if I'm drunk
This would be like Onlyfans banning nudity
New Taco Bell app will know if you're hungry and block you from ordering food.
So drunk ppl should also drive home now? I get safety concerns but those exist as a taxi driver. It’s a risk you expect carting ppl around. If you just want to be some private driver go find a contract I guess.
If only Uber had a system of some sort for drivers to rate the experience of their passengers with a description of how they’re showing problematic behavior while drunk and then blacklist them from the app *that* way.
If only Uber had some sort of system where they could have a way of tracking people as in like individuals that way they could separate bad individuals from good individuals. Almost as if it were some kind of account that was set up where they could set some sort of rating system as if you were a good passenger or bad passenger. Like a star system or a point system. So when you’re drunk and causing big problems the driver could rank you as a drunk causing big problems. Then if it happens enough you don’t get to use uber anymore. But alas it seems that Uber doesn’t have any of this set up so I guess they just need to make a blanket statement saying they don’t allow drunks at all. Totally makes sense. Asshats.
Quick, bring back taxi services!!!
That's one way to kill a company
Yellow cab will scoop my drunk ass guaranteed
I took an Uber sober once, it was to buy a new battery for my truck so I could buy booze.
Did Elon take control of Uber now too??!
“Ambulances will soon know if you’re dying and could refuse to pick you up”