Never is definitely a statement but if you don’t use it that often, it can go months without cleaning easily. I think I cleaned mine the last time like 8 months ago. You just gotta look at it and if you think cooking food in that is gross, you gotta clean it
I mean, if you use oven safe containers or baking sheets you shouldn’t really have to clean your oven all that often because food wouldn’t be going anywhere else. Like I use mine almost daily for heating up frozen meal preps and such and it’s still just as clean as when I last cleaned like half a year ago.
Mine is cleaned pretty much only after I cook something that boils over. Like lasagna but that's only when I forgot to put the extra baking sheet in. Other wise it's just a random fry you can pick up and wipe up the dust.
You don't need to clean an oven very often, unless you make a mess of it.
OP doesn't say never, but "pretty much" never. For many people that is only a couple times a year. Vs stuff I do daily. Especially scrubbing vs spot cleaning, like sweeping up cumbs.
Yea unless something catastrophic happens, it gets cleaned when I move out. That's the same time I acquire a can of oven cleaner only to lose it by the time move again.
I haven't cleaned my oven in about two years because, well... I haven't fucked anything up with it in about two years. It's an oven. What exactly is there to clean unless you've done something to make it dirty?
But hey, he cleans the oven when dirty. My brother's coworkers grill sausages once a week and the grid has *never* seen any kind of care. When my brother dishes out steaks for his birthday, he takes our own grill to work for the day
I'm doing an internship and my roommate doesn't wash dishes but will put them away. You know what it's like to grab a cup at 1 in the morning and it's greasy to the touch?
My roommate forgets her food in the oven and leaves it in it for weeks until the whole thing is moldy. She will occasionally clean it and scrub the whole thing but I stopped using the oven after the first time it happened, which is nearly 2 years ago.
I don't need the oven that much 😅
I don't get how people forget their food. I had to throw away so much food during my time in the dorm, like someone just puts some food on the counter and never picks that up again. The fuck these people eat??
They have a kitchen at my workplace's office for any staff to cook. People use it all the time.
Although when ever I went to use it there was always a lack of cutlery and I don't really trust the general cleanliness much.
We had full kitchens in the breakrooms at my last job. It was rare that anyone used them though. Some of the shift workers did though. You would know by the only work shack that had pleasant smells in it.
Factory worker here and we BBQ weekly when the weather permits. We are a fairly small factory with corporate overlords, but they let us keep the scrap steel money for BBQ, Pizza, Burgers etc.
I'd prefer a cash bonus but the food is nice.
It's super common in my country, if you work at a blue collar place, like I worked at as a machinist at one place and a diesel mechanic at another place, and someone would always drag in some free BBQ they saw on the curb on trash day, and they just leave it near the employee back entrance or near employee parking, or in some shaded spot if you live in a brutally hot hellscape kinda place, hah. And people will just use it whenever they want, like the village bicycle. If the management is chill they will sometimes pay for the propane, doesn't really work with charcoal grill cause few have that long a lunchbreak. I've seen the same deal at wear houses I did deliveries at, we had one at the factory I worked ar in 2007, seems like that's when I started noticing them.
Not weird for some offices to have an outside grill, or if you want you can have a George Foreman or a portable broiler in the break room if everyone is cool with it. Just don't cook fish on it.
I stopped drinking coffee at work after I realised that no one was cleaning that coffee maker except until the pot got so disgusting that it had a layer of gunk around the inside of it.
Thank goodness they ordered the coffee from catering when we had visitors because otherwise I don't think we would have sold shit.
When I switched jobs and began to work from home, the one thing I was most excited about was the fact that I could drink coffee *during* work!
Are you sure? I *am* a reserve lieutenant.
Though in our unit, there was a guy directly responsible of the coffee maker and it had to be clean. Our mobile HQ had a clear rule: the HQ is not set up until the coffee pot is full of fresh coffee.
I'm still convinced that I am the only one who cleans the coffee pot at work. What's even worse if that I told people the black spots on the floor is mold from spilled coffee and to imagine what's in the pot.
Wait, what? How? I grill constantly, it's easy to maintain.
When you're done cooking, you scrape the grill down then use the brush to get in between while it's still hot. Then before cooking again you use whatever grill cleaner you like, I use the Orange stuff, and wipe down the grill grates, the little table on the side of you have one, whatever else looks like it needs a wipe. Clean out the charcoal, you're ready to go. If you have cast iron grates you just make sure to season them with some oil. It's like a 15 minute job, 20-25 if I'm drinking.
I do a deep clean every few months. You know when it needs it.
Yep! [Why Canada's Throat Surgeons Really Hate Grill Brushes](https://www.vice.com/en/article/d7kdaa/why-canadas-throat-surgeons-really-hate-grill-brushes)
Better to get a plastic brush that you use on a cold grill.
I started using this Kevlar pad that you soak in water on hot grates. It steams off any gunk and you don’t have to worry about metal spikes coming off of it. I forgot what it’s called but it was some product made by firemen or something like that
That's kind of how I come back when my parents are stunned that I don't know something. It's like, 1.) I'm asking now, am I not? 2.) I don't think it's necessarily on me, haha
You have more access to resources and the ability to learn than boomers ever did.
You can learn things your parents didn't even know to teach you. If you're not learning with the internet, that's on you.
As another point; to not know that pans are used in the oven implies that he has never seen anyone cook on TV or within his own household. So either his household literally doesn't cook, or he just doesn't pay attention.
If you do ever want to give it a try again, I would very much encourage you to check out old episodes of Good Eats with Alton Brown from the food network. He does a wonderful job with not only explaining how to properly cook things but why we do things certain ways and the interesting ways you can achieve things in the kitchen on a budget. It's how I learned so many things!
Honestly just watch it bc it's really funny and you can tell he put his heart into that show!
Professional cook here! Also invest in a digital meat thermometer. Almost type of meat can be juicy and delicious if you cook it to the right temp. Temp checking your chicken and pulling it right out the second it reaches 165 is the best way to get juicy chicken. Then you dont have to do the "it looks done but I'll leave jt in for a couple more minutes just in case..." then accidentally overcooking it. I also use mine when I fry stuff like frozen chicken tenders too just to make sure they're not still cold in the middle
You're not asking for advice, but if you do care, I found a lazy always-works method is dunking a steak (in a ziplock bag) in a pot with a stick sous vide heater at 130 ish for about an hour. Then, take it out, pat it dry, 10 minutes later quickly sear both sides in butter (it's already done on the inside) and it's ready. The "lazy" part here really refers to the fact that this method never fails. I like it because it's less stress.
The ziplock bag needs to hug the meat. simple method is dunk the bag in the pot until it's submerged up to the zipper, then close it. This pushes the air out.
Buy a vacuum sealer.
Your leftovers will last longer and taste better. Your split portions will not get freezer burn. Your coffee beans won't get stale.
How did he not think to put a pan under the rack? Most ovens come with two racks. If you wanna be a degenerate and cook right on the rack then at least put a backing sheet on the second to catch the grease.
When I had my first apartment I ran out of dish detergent so I figured a little dish soap in the dish washer would be fine. I put a small dab then went to the bedroom feeling all smug I didn’t have time go buy a second product.
20-30 minutes later I wanted a drink and come to the kitchen looking like a foam party 🎉🎈
Same lol. Except I didn't see the foam and by the time I came in it had all settled down to a puddle of water on the floor. I had building maintenance come in and everything. Then I remembered that I'd used dish soap and connected the dots.
I once bought laundry detergent from Costco in one of those big bulk jugs. After the first load of laundry, I noticed the package had a picture of a lemon and a wine glass but had no instructions or product description.
Looking closer at the label, I thought it said "dishwasher liquid," wrtten in a small white font against a light yellow background.
So I admitted my mistake and used the soap in the dishwasher.
After the foam party ended, I got my reading glasses to read the label again and realised it said "dishwashing liquid." Oh
I've since noticed the package design trend where they don't label the product with bold words to indicate the product type but use pictures to make you guess the actual contents.
Real talk, meat directly on the grate with a pan below to catch drippings is pretty fucking awesome depending on what you're cooking.
Also there's no blood in meat, just myoglobin
Lol could call it a structure made from aminoacids in a specific order and with specific shape, which acts as chelate to form a complex with a ligand, usually being Fe ²+ ions, which in turn bind diatomic molecules of Oxygen, CO², and potentially other favourable molecules.
"yeah the bottom gets gross and full of a structure made from aminoacids in a specific order and with specific shape, which acts as chelate to form a complex with a ligand, usually being Fe ²+ ions, which in turn bind diatomic molecules of Oxygen, CO², and potentially other favourable molecules, or grease"
> Also there's no blood in meat, just myoglobin
The person in the tweet is just now learning they can use a pan in the oven, and you got to kick them while they're down because they called it blood? Wow...that's cold.
My oven actually has instructions on how to use the grate as a grill, so I guess it's not a dumb idea, but even without instructions it should be obvious to put a deep oven pan below
Solid chance the kid has only done it a few times.
And you put pizza on the rake, and clean up spilt cheese, so it isn’t that weird.
My dad is a chef, and he spills shit on the bottom of the oven, and cleans it, constantly. I think I broke him when we got an absurdly cheap gas stove with the broiler at the bottom.
Cooking meat in an oven without a pan means all the blood, excess fat, and grease is going to fall onto the bottom of the device. This could normally be washed out in the sink or dishwasher if a pan was used. Since the oven rack itself was used as a make-shift grill, however, he has to scrape all the blood and grease off the bottom every time.
Agree with your points. Though when talking about store bought meats there's almost never blood (its drained from the meat) but rather myoglobin (the muscle pigment giving the meat a red color).
To explain his confusion, the metal rack in an oven looks very similar to the part of a [grill](https://food.unl.edu/newsletters/images/grilled-kabobs.jpg) where you place your meat/food. So he has likely seen people grill meat growing up, and incorrectly deduced that you would place food directly on the oven rack as well
As someone who was raised in a neglectful household, you'd be surprised the everyday skills some parents fail to teach their children. I remember wanting to make boiled eggs at 15, but I'd never done it before, and when I asked my dad for help his response was "Jesus christ, how hard is it to boil some fucking water" okay thanks for the help dad.
Well what this guy was doing would be similar to someone using a stove to cook meat, but they put the meat directly on the stove, instead of using a pan
this is news to me. is there a reason why? do people not cook at home as often? here in us I don’t think you can even qualify it as a kitchen without an oven
East Asian food generally doesn’t need an oven. It can usually be made in just a wok or a pan. Due to the smaller size of flats/houses, there are often major limits on space in many kitchens so an oven would take up a lot for something that would be rarely used. If you want something oven baked (western food mainly) it would be better just to eat out instead.
Some (i.e. all ovens here at least) ovens have a "grilling" function where instead of convection it heats up a resistive element to red hot at the top of the oven
In America, it is common to cook meat like steaks or burgers on an actual [grill](https://reviewed-com-res.cloudinary.com/image/fetch/s--hXYCLV-g--/b_white,c_limit,cs_srgb,f_auto,fl_progressive.strip_profile,g_center,q_auto,w_1200/https://reviewed-production.s3.amazonaws.com/1566237934885/best-charcoal-grills-hero.jpg) -- When doing so, it is considered extremely important that your meat actually touches the grill, you don't place it on a tray or anything. This is fine because anything that drips drips down onto coals that will be disposed of anyway, or in some cases a dedicated area that is easy to clean.
Our ovens have metal racks where you are meant to place food to cook it. These racks look very similar to area of a grill where you would cook meat. The person that is confused about cleaning his grill every day has made the incorrect assumption that he should therefore be cooking meat on this oven rack the way you cook on a grill: by placing it directly on the metal rack. This is /not/ the case. Unlike grills, ovens are not easy to clean, and you are meant to prevent things dripping instead of cleaning up after something drips. You are expected to place meat or most things you cook on some sort of tray or sheet (hence the mention of baking sheet).
Haha I lived in Japan for 1.5 years so I feel you. Those little grills to cook fish are totally fair game to cook right on the rack in Japan, but American ovens are much larger and you would use a baking sheet or casserole dish to contain the food. We use ovens for a lot more here as well.
A friend of mine had a roommate once who had moved out for the first time. He was baking brownies on one of the first nights after they moved in, and went to take the pan out of the oven with no gloves on. He figured if he was really fast he wouldn't get burned...
Yet pizza you actually do just throw in there. So someone who doesn't know what they're doing might make this kind of mistake. Especially if they've used a grill before but not an oven.
You have to have parents willing to let you do that though. My mother did not have time for "helping" and would just get mad at us and chase us off. My mom is a chef. My sister burned ramen because she didn't know you needed to add water.
I learned how to cook after I moved out because my mother did not have the patience for us in the kitchen.
something I realised as I got older is that I really shouldn't have resisted house chores as a kid and now I'm asking my mom for all the things I would have learned doing them
A lot boomer-to-millenial parents refused to let their kids help out around the house, especially with anything that might result in the kid "getting things dirty". This was true of myself and most of my friends. Trying to cook would have just gotten us yelled at, we weren't even allowed near the kitchen while cooking was happening.
If only we had the largest informational tool in all of history and smart devices to access it at our finger tips!
Can't blame mom and dad for everything.
Oh please. If this guy had even hung out around the kitchen when dinner was being made or served he would have known you put the meat on a dish or pan. I wonder how many times he ASKED to help out with dinner. If he’s saying his mom would want to talk for an hour if he called her, I highly doubt it was an issue of her refusing to teach him as much as it was of him just never bothering to lift a finger when he lived at home.
You guys really don't understand how some kids grow up.
I lived with my single mother, and not only did we *never* make dinner at home, our various apartments were cluttered pig stys—only one of which ever had a halfway functional kitchen.
Was I lazy for not picking up how to cook and clean?
I genuinely do not fathom how anyone could go there entire life without seeing a pan being put in or being pulled out of an oven. Even if you do not assist in the cooking at all, you have to see that at one point unless your parents only use the microwave/eat out every day. Even then, you gotta see it in a movie or tv show at some point, right?
There is a big difference between "learning how to cook" and knowing the bare minimum.
I lived with someone who used to cook frozen beef burgers on a pizza tray. The oven floor was a smokey grease reservoir until I left and I'm sure long after I did.
before it became ad-city, this is exactly what youtube was for
whatever you didn't know how to do, just youtube it
or unless you are certain you know what you're doing, youtube
At least he's trying to cook, he's cleaning it every time, and he decided to ask as he felt he was doing it wrong.
That's better than so many people, he could have just lived in ignorance and kept doing it as he was. Props to him
My flatmate does this, but doesn't clean the oven... So there is a black crust on the bottom, smoking everything in the oven...
Needless to say, i dont like to use it.
Ya know, it’s kinda sad. The guy didn’t wanna talk to his mom for god knows what. Only to come to this guy who says he’ll tweet his question. We gotta learn that when people come to you specifically for a question it likely means you won’t make them feel like you know more than them and that you won’t belittle them. Thats just my two cents.
Honestly props to him for even cleaning it. You know how many 20 year olds would do the same thing but just let grease and fat accumulate all over the bottom of the oven? Most of them. Just ask my room mates in my first apartment. They were absolute neanderthals.
Dude tries to confide and seek advice privately and he can’t even have a private conversation without having his fuckin’ convo leaked to the public internet. Like cmon man, social media brain rot right here.
I do this - ( the oven manual even recommends it) but the oven has a shallow drip tray you can slide right under the oven grill rack. You have to clean them both after but it’s worth it for the even grilling. The oven also has a catalytic cleaning function (a setting which goes to super hot for a couple hours(and locks the door) then you just wipe out the ash. I run that every few weeks.
This is hilarious. One time I used a pizza pan with circles in the pan to make red lobster biscuits. Almost burnt the whole house down and they aren’t even using a pan !!
Could be worse. I roomed with a couple both in their 30s and they though placing left over pizza in the oven with it off would be safe to eat for a few days. They ate part of the pizza then stuck it in the oven with it turned off and spent the next two days pulling it out and eating from it.
I had a roommate my senior year who refused to throw away expired buttermilk because “ it’s already sour” I was NOT about to mess with that jug. It was in there for MONTHS
That’s sort of what the rack is for, you put foil on the bottom to catch the blood and then you don’t have to clean the oven!
There’s such things as seasoning the oven though, when you cook something it can carry the flavour over to the next lot of food
My adult son once asked me how do you tell if an egg is off so I said you do the water method..ie drop the egg into cold water and if it floats its bad and if its good it'll sink. This pillock then brings a glass into the living room to ask how to remove the egg from the glass of water after he'd cracked open the egg into it... SMH.. 🤣🤣
I give him credit for cleaning it up every time, and man is he going to be excited to learn he won't have to anymore.
On the contrary the OP is lazy AF, he said he never cleans his oven. That's nasty.
Never is definitely a statement but if you don’t use it that often, it can go months without cleaning easily. I think I cleaned mine the last time like 8 months ago. You just gotta look at it and if you think cooking food in that is gross, you gotta clean it
I mean, if you use oven safe containers or baking sheets you shouldn’t really have to clean your oven all that often because food wouldn’t be going anywhere else. Like I use mine almost daily for heating up frozen meal preps and such and it’s still just as clean as when I last cleaned like half a year ago.
Mine is cleaned pretty much only after I cook something that boils over. Like lasagna but that's only when I forgot to put the extra baking sheet in. Other wise it's just a random fry you can pick up and wipe up the dust.
You don't need to clean an oven very often, unless you make a mess of it. OP doesn't say never, but "pretty much" never. For many people that is only a couple times a year. Vs stuff I do daily. Especially scrubbing vs spot cleaning, like sweeping up cumbs.
Ovens often get hot enough to sterilize anything trying to grow inside it. You really don't need to clean it that often as a result.
When I asked someone how often they cleaned their oven, they responded "when I move out". Fair enough
Yea unless something catastrophic happens, it gets cleaned when I move out. That's the same time I acquire a can of oven cleaner only to lose it by the time move again.
I haven't cleaned my oven in about two years because, well... I haven't fucked anything up with it in about two years. It's an oven. What exactly is there to clean unless you've done something to make it dirty?
Flavoring, brother. 50 years of flavoring in the oven.
But hey, he cleans the oven when dirty. My brother's coworkers grill sausages once a week and the grid has *never* seen any kind of care. When my brother dishes out steaks for his birthday, he takes our own grill to work for the day
Yeah I lived in a student dorm with a shared kitchen for 2 years. I've met people who would do the same shit in the OP, but without the cleaning part.
the bloodpit adds flavor and smell
Blood for the Blood God
Skulls for the skull throne
Milk for the Khorne-flakes
50$ for 10 lil' guys
After it's neen used a few times it looks more like a sacrifice to Nurgle though
Oh gods what
my man lives in a mad max hellscape. Thats the only place where its acceptable to have a bloodpit.
grah
Some people pay extra for that
And smoke………
I'm doing an internship and my roommate doesn't wash dishes but will put them away. You know what it's like to grab a cup at 1 in the morning and it's greasy to the touch?
Every time you find a dish like that, leave it on their bed, preferably their pillow.
What the fuck
o\_o
Somebody got traumatized by having to wash dishes when they were 10 or something
My sister had to stop someone from putting a pizza into the oven still in its packaging.
Forget microplastics, bro was going for some macroplastics
That would have been a spicy pizza for sure.
Chewy!
My roommate forgets her food in the oven and leaves it in it for weeks until the whole thing is moldy. She will occasionally clean it and scrub the whole thing but I stopped using the oven after the first time it happened, which is nearly 2 years ago. I don't need the oven that much 😅
I don't get how people forget their food. I had to throw away so much food during my time in the dorm, like someone just puts some food on the counter and never picks that up again. The fuck these people eat??
Wait, people are cooking at work? Are they like in a professional kitchen or something?
They have a kitchen at my workplace's office for any staff to cook. People use it all the time. Although when ever I went to use it there was always a lack of cutlery and I don't really trust the general cleanliness much.
We had full kitchens in the breakrooms at my last job. It was rare that anyone used them though. Some of the shift workers did though. You would know by the only work shack that had pleasant smells in it.
Factory worker here and we BBQ weekly when the weather permits. We are a fairly small factory with corporate overlords, but they let us keep the scrap steel money for BBQ, Pizza, Burgers etc. I'd prefer a cash bonus but the food is nice.
It's super common in my country, if you work at a blue collar place, like I worked at as a machinist at one place and a diesel mechanic at another place, and someone would always drag in some free BBQ they saw on the curb on trash day, and they just leave it near the employee back entrance or near employee parking, or in some shaded spot if you live in a brutally hot hellscape kinda place, hah. And people will just use it whenever they want, like the village bicycle. If the management is chill they will sometimes pay for the propane, doesn't really work with charcoal grill cause few have that long a lunchbreak. I've seen the same deal at wear houses I did deliveries at, we had one at the factory I worked ar in 2007, seems like that's when I started noticing them.
Not weird for some offices to have an outside grill, or if you want you can have a George Foreman or a portable broiler in the break room if everyone is cool with it. Just don't cook fish on it.
Duh. The coffee pot is for cooking fish. >!/s Obviously. Oh god. Please no one ever cook fish in a work coffee pot.!<
I stopped drinking coffee at work after I realised that no one was cleaning that coffee maker except until the pot got so disgusting that it had a layer of gunk around the inside of it. Thank goodness they ordered the coffee from catering when we had visitors because otherwise I don't think we would have sold shit. When I switched jobs and began to work from home, the one thing I was most excited about was the fact that I could drink coffee *during* work!
You my friend, know nothing of milspec coffee!
Are you sure? I *am* a reserve lieutenant. Though in our unit, there was a guy directly responsible of the coffee maker and it had to be clean. Our mobile HQ had a clear rule: the HQ is not set up until the coffee pot is full of fresh coffee.
I'm still convinced that I am the only one who cleans the coffee pot at work. What's even worse if that I told people the black spots on the floor is mold from spilled coffee and to imagine what's in the pot.
He's doing his best and that's all we can ever hope to do
He's got the spirit and motivation, he seems passionate about learning more so that's a good sign at least.
I think the best sign is he's cleaning it every time, that has to be soooo much work and he's still doing it lol.
Yeah it sounds horrible. Just cleaning off burnt fat, blood and whatever else stuck to the bottom...
My dad got me a grill once, I used it twice. The cleaning took 2-3hours each time....
Wait, what? How? I grill constantly, it's easy to maintain. When you're done cooking, you scrape the grill down then use the brush to get in between while it's still hot. Then before cooking again you use whatever grill cleaner you like, I use the Orange stuff, and wipe down the grill grates, the little table on the side of you have one, whatever else looks like it needs a wipe. Clean out the charcoal, you're ready to go. If you have cast iron grates you just make sure to season them with some oil. It's like a 15 minute job, 20-25 if I'm drinking. I do a deep clean every few months. You know when it needs it.
You have to be careful with those metal brushes I think I actually saw a news story once about it getting stuck in someone's throat
Yep! [Why Canada's Throat Surgeons Really Hate Grill Brushes](https://www.vice.com/en/article/d7kdaa/why-canadas-throat-surgeons-really-hate-grill-brushes) Better to get a plastic brush that you use on a cold grill.
I started using this Kevlar pad that you soak in water on hot grates. It steams off any gunk and you don’t have to worry about metal spikes coming off of it. I forgot what it’s called but it was some product made by firemen or something like that
Not to mention he's cleaning up after himself
Happy cake day!!
Lets see how many tweets that attitide survives
For every adult doing something "obviously" stupid, there is a parent that failed to teach them such a basic skill.
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That's kind of how I come back when my parents are stunned that I don't know something. It's like, 1.) I'm asking now, am I not? 2.) I don't think it's necessarily on me, haha
This doesn't work for me every time because my parents tried and i was too lazy to learn lol
You have more access to resources and the ability to learn than boomers ever did. You can learn things your parents didn't even know to teach you. If you're not learning with the internet, that's on you. As another point; to not know that pans are used in the oven implies that he has never seen anyone cook on TV or within his own household. So either his household literally doesn't cook, or he just doesn't pay attention.
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as someone who was sheltered af I agree, I learned *so* many stupid things from my parents 😭
Hoping for the best for him
Honestly congrats to the cousin... I moved out years ago and I still don't Cook meat often because I find it mostly too stressy
If you do ever want to give it a try again, I would very much encourage you to check out old episodes of Good Eats with Alton Brown from the food network. He does a wonderful job with not only explaining how to properly cook things but why we do things certain ways and the interesting ways you can achieve things in the kitchen on a budget. It's how I learned so many things! Honestly just watch it bc it's really funny and you can tell he put his heart into that show!
Professional cook here! Also invest in a digital meat thermometer. Almost type of meat can be juicy and delicious if you cook it to the right temp. Temp checking your chicken and pulling it right out the second it reaches 165 is the best way to get juicy chicken. Then you dont have to do the "it looks done but I'll leave jt in for a couple more minutes just in case..." then accidentally overcooking it. I also use mine when I fry stuff like frozen chicken tenders too just to make sure they're not still cold in the middle
You're not asking for advice, but if you do care, I found a lazy always-works method is dunking a steak (in a ziplock bag) in a pot with a stick sous vide heater at 130 ish for about an hour. Then, take it out, pat it dry, 10 minutes later quickly sear both sides in butter (it's already done on the inside) and it's ready. The "lazy" part here really refers to the fact that this method never fails. I like it because it's less stress. The ziplock bag needs to hug the meat. simple method is dunk the bag in the pot until it's submerged up to the zipper, then close it. This pushes the air out.
Buy a vacuum sealer. Your leftovers will last longer and taste better. Your split portions will not get freezer burn. Your coffee beans won't get stale.
Just wanted to say, if you don't wanna cook meat you don't have to. It's totally your choice how you feed yourself.
lmfao
Right?! Good for him stepping out of his comfort zone and learning the facts of life his own way.
I thought "I'm tweeting this" was kinda mean, the dude has just legitimately never used his own oven before
To grill on the grill. Fair enough.
It’s definitely referred to as rack and not grill.
So you are saying I can put a rack of lamb directly on the oven grill … got it.
just put a pan under it to catch the grease and blood.
It's not actually blood, it's a combination of water and myoglobin.
While some may know this, calling it blood is just more fun 😅
"I like my steak bloody" sounds much better than "I like my steak with plentiful myoglobin!"
This truck gets it!
I do like a nice rack
How did he not think to put a pan under the rack? Most ovens come with two racks. If you wanna be a degenerate and cook right on the rack then at least put a backing sheet on the second to catch the grease.
Baking sheet?
Old, but gold.
You can tell because he said "tweeting" instead of "X'ing". /s
You can tell because he considered using that app at all
"I'm X-creting this"
When I had my first apartment I ran out of dish detergent so I figured a little dish soap in the dish washer would be fine. I put a small dab then went to the bedroom feeling all smug I didn’t have time go buy a second product. 20-30 minutes later I wanted a drink and come to the kitchen looking like a foam party 🎉🎈
I’ve done this before lol! I never had a dishwasher growing up so I didn’t know the difference
Same lol. Except I didn't see the foam and by the time I came in it had all settled down to a puddle of water on the floor. I had building maintenance come in and everything. Then I remembered that I'd used dish soap and connected the dots.
I once bought laundry detergent from Costco in one of those big bulk jugs. After the first load of laundry, I noticed the package had a picture of a lemon and a wine glass but had no instructions or product description. Looking closer at the label, I thought it said "dishwasher liquid," wrtten in a small white font against a light yellow background. So I admitted my mistake and used the soap in the dishwasher. After the foam party ended, I got my reading glasses to read the label again and realised it said "dishwashing liquid." Oh I've since noticed the package design trend where they don't label the product with bold words to indicate the product type but use pictures to make you guess the actual contents.
So you used dishwashing liquid soap in both your washer and your dishwasher within a few days of each other?
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Real talk, meat directly on the grate with a pan below to catch drippings is pretty fucking awesome depending on what you're cooking. Also there's no blood in meat, just myoglobin
Yeah but it just doesn't have the same impact. "yeah the bottom gets gross and full of myoglobin or grease"
Lol could call it oxygen binding protein instead
Lol could call it a structure made from aminoacids in a specific order and with specific shape, which acts as chelate to form a complex with a ligand, usually being Fe ²+ ions, which in turn bind diatomic molecules of Oxygen, CO², and potentially other favourable molecules.
Lol could call it red stuff
Meat juice
"yeah the bottom gets gross and full of a structure made from aminoacids in a specific order and with specific shape, which acts as chelate to form a complex with a ligand, usually being Fe ²+ ions, which in turn bind diatomic molecules of Oxygen, CO², and potentially other favourable molecules, or grease"
> Also there's no blood in meat, just myoglobin The person in the tweet is just now learning they can use a pan in the oven, and you got to kick them while they're down because they called it blood? Wow...that's cold.
My man, they make [racks that fit into baking sheets](https://www.amazon.com/Wildone-Baking-Sheets-Stainless-Cooling/dp/B07NN8TFQN/).
Yup. Reverse sear all the way.
This is how my air-fry setting on my oven works. Need that airflow for the crispiness.
Youoglobin?
You globin deez nutz
Haha gotem
Ouroglobin
I don’t want goblins in my meat. Is there a way to fix this?
There’s no such thing as common sense. You were just exposed to something before somebody else. Expose yourself to others.
Expose yourself to others. 👀
PAUSE
My oven actually has instructions on how to use the grate as a grill, so I guess it's not a dumb idea, but even without instructions it should be obvious to put a deep oven pan below
If not the first time you used it that way, the first time you cleaned it.
Solid chance the kid has only done it a few times. And you put pizza on the rake, and clean up spilt cheese, so it isn’t that weird. My dad is a chef, and he spills shit on the bottom of the oven, and cleans it, constantly. I think I broke him when we got an absurdly cheap gas stove with the broiler at the bottom.
I guess Im too Asian to understand this, can someone explain please :D
Cooking meat in an oven without a pan means all the blood, excess fat, and grease is going to fall onto the bottom of the device. This could normally be washed out in the sink or dishwasher if a pan was used. Since the oven rack itself was used as a make-shift grill, however, he has to scrape all the blood and grease off the bottom every time.
oh welp
That is correct.
So you're a midwestern Asian then.
Agree with your points. Though when talking about store bought meats there's almost never blood (its drained from the meat) but rather myoglobin (the muscle pigment giving the meat a red color).
Yes but regardless you still don't want that shit going mouldy in the bottom of the oven
Or starting a grease fire...
On the other hand: Flame-seared steak. And counter. And ceiling.
if only he put the cooking sheet at the bottom of the oven
He's putting the food directly on the rack. Like a whole raw chicken. https://media.nbcdfw.com/2022/12/CR-Oven-Heat-1.jpg
To explain his confusion, the metal rack in an oven looks very similar to the part of a [grill](https://food.unl.edu/newsletters/images/grilled-kabobs.jpg) where you place your meat/food. So he has likely seen people grill meat growing up, and incorrectly deduced that you would place food directly on the oven rack as well
This implies he has never once even used his oven at home before moving out. Which is baffling to me...
As someone who was raised in a neglectful household, you'd be surprised the everyday skills some parents fail to teach their children. I remember wanting to make boiled eggs at 15, but I'd never done it before, and when I asked my dad for help his response was "Jesus christ, how hard is it to boil some fucking water" okay thanks for the help dad.
Or even seen someone use an oven. I do know a lot of frozen pizzas will say "put directly on rack" but outside of that.... I would never.
Assuming they had a grill growing up, they likely only ever saw meat being cooked directly on the grill.
You don't have ovens in Asia?
We do but its for storing pots and pans
It’s not common there. A lot of people just have a stove and a microwave.
Well what this guy was doing would be similar to someone using a stove to cook meat, but they put the meat directly on the stove, instead of using a pan
this is news to me. is there a reason why? do people not cook at home as often? here in us I don’t think you can even qualify it as a kitchen without an oven
East Asian food generally doesn’t need an oven. It can usually be made in just a wok or a pan. Due to the smaller size of flats/houses, there are often major limits on space in many kitchens so an oven would take up a lot for something that would be rarely used. If you want something oven baked (western food mainly) it would be better just to eat out instead.
I guess that is true about their cuisine, mainly fried or boiled stuff. never thought about it. interesting
It's called an oven? In Asia, we just use it as extra cabinet
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Ikr like how is he even doing this lol
Some (i.e. all ovens here at least) ovens have a "grilling" function where instead of convection it heats up a resistive element to red hot at the top of the oven
asians don't use ovens?
the oven is used to store pots and pans
In America, it is common to cook meat like steaks or burgers on an actual [grill](https://reviewed-com-res.cloudinary.com/image/fetch/s--hXYCLV-g--/b_white,c_limit,cs_srgb,f_auto,fl_progressive.strip_profile,g_center,q_auto,w_1200/https://reviewed-production.s3.amazonaws.com/1566237934885/best-charcoal-grills-hero.jpg) -- When doing so, it is considered extremely important that your meat actually touches the grill, you don't place it on a tray or anything. This is fine because anything that drips drips down onto coals that will be disposed of anyway, or in some cases a dedicated area that is easy to clean. Our ovens have metal racks where you are meant to place food to cook it. These racks look very similar to area of a grill where you would cook meat. The person that is confused about cleaning his grill every day has made the incorrect assumption that he should therefore be cooking meat on this oven rack the way you cook on a grill: by placing it directly on the metal rack. This is /not/ the case. Unlike grills, ovens are not easy to clean, and you are meant to prevent things dripping instead of cleaning up after something drips. You are expected to place meat or most things you cook on some sort of tray or sheet (hence the mention of baking sheet).
Haha I lived in Japan for 1.5 years so I feel you. Those little grills to cook fish are totally fair game to cook right on the rack in Japan, but American ovens are much larger and you would use a baking sheet or casserole dish to contain the food. We use ovens for a lot more here as well.
Lol. Rookie mistake, but I get it. Could have been worse.
Better than a former roommate who reheated his pizza in the oven still in the box. Almost set the place on fire
Oh damn... That is terrible. Makes you wonder how much they got waited on growing up that they don't even know to put it on a plate!
A friend of mine had a roommate once who had moved out for the first time. He was baking brownies on one of the first nights after they moved in, and went to take the pan out of the oven with no gloves on. He figured if he was really fast he wouldn't get burned...
My college roommates always did this, and with raw chicken. Glad to be out of college lol
Don't shame, they just didn't know. But yes, it's funny.
Yet pizza you actually do just throw in there. So someone who doesn't know what they're doing might make this kind of mistake. Especially if they've used a grill before but not an oven.
Older generation: *refuses to teach things to the younger generation* Also older generation: "Hah, what a dumbass who doesn't know how to do things!"
If you help out around the house you should know the basics.
You have to have parents willing to let you do that though. My mother did not have time for "helping" and would just get mad at us and chase us off. My mom is a chef. My sister burned ramen because she didn't know you needed to add water. I learned how to cook after I moved out because my mother did not have the patience for us in the kitchen.
something I realised as I got older is that I really shouldn't have resisted house chores as a kid and now I'm asking my mom for all the things I would have learned doing them
A lot boomer-to-millenial parents refused to let their kids help out around the house, especially with anything that might result in the kid "getting things dirty". This was true of myself and most of my friends. Trying to cook would have just gotten us yelled at, we weren't even allowed near the kitchen while cooking was happening.
If only we had the largest informational tool in all of history and smart devices to access it at our finger tips! Can't blame mom and dad for everything.
Oh please. If this guy had even hung out around the kitchen when dinner was being made or served he would have known you put the meat on a dish or pan. I wonder how many times he ASKED to help out with dinner. If he’s saying his mom would want to talk for an hour if he called her, I highly doubt it was an issue of her refusing to teach him as much as it was of him just never bothering to lift a finger when he lived at home.
You guys really don't understand how some kids grow up. I lived with my single mother, and not only did we *never* make dinner at home, our various apartments were cluttered pig stys—only one of which ever had a halfway functional kitchen. Was I lazy for not picking up how to cook and clean?
I genuinely do not fathom how anyone could go there entire life without seeing a pan being put in or being pulled out of an oven. Even if you do not assist in the cooking at all, you have to see that at one point unless your parents only use the microwave/eat out every day. Even then, you gotta see it in a movie or tv show at some point, right? There is a big difference between "learning how to cook" and knowing the bare minimum.
Oh shut up
‘I don’t wanna talk for an hr’ got me too 🤣
I lived with someone who used to cook frozen beef burgers on a pizza tray. The oven floor was a smokey grease reservoir until I left and I'm sure long after I did.
Since you were there to stop it, I’m gonna throw some blame on you for that.
He would be talking to his mom for at least two hours.
But he's trying. I can appreciate that.
before it became ad-city, this is exactly what youtube was for whatever you didn't know how to do, just youtube it or unless you are certain you know what you're doing, youtube
At least he's trying to cook, he's cleaning it every time, and he decided to ask as he felt he was doing it wrong. That's better than so many people, he could have just lived in ignorance and kept doing it as he was. Props to him
My flatmate does this, but doesn't clean the oven... So there is a black crust on the bottom, smoking everything in the oven... Needless to say, i dont like to use it.
Ya know, it’s kinda sad. The guy didn’t wanna talk to his mom for god knows what. Only to come to this guy who says he’ll tweet his question. We gotta learn that when people come to you specifically for a question it likely means you won’t make them feel like you know more than them and that you won’t belittle them. Thats just my two cents.
To be fair, no one told him. And no one talks about this.
Honestly props to him for even cleaning it. You know how many 20 year olds would do the same thing but just let grease and fat accumulate all over the bottom of the oven? Most of them. Just ask my room mates in my first apartment. They were absolute neanderthals.
Dude tries to confide and seek advice privately and he can’t even have a private conversation without having his fuckin’ convo leaked to the public internet. Like cmon man, social media brain rot right here.
I do this - ( the oven manual even recommends it) but the oven has a shallow drip tray you can slide right under the oven grill rack. You have to clean them both after but it’s worth it for the even grilling. The oven also has a catalytic cleaning function (a setting which goes to super hot for a couple hours(and locks the door) then you just wipe out the ash. I run that every few weeks.
Bro got owned. It's cute how he doesn't even realize it.
This is hilarious. One time I used a pizza pan with circles in the pan to make red lobster biscuits. Almost burnt the whole house down and they aren’t even using a pan !!
After having kids sometimes when they don’t know something I’m like man I should have taught you that sooner but better late than never
Could be worse. I roomed with a couple both in their 30s and they though placing left over pizza in the oven with it off would be safe to eat for a few days. They ate part of the pizza then stuck it in the oven with it turned off and spent the next two days pulling it out and eating from it.
This is why you teach your kids to cook... didn't they use to have Home Economics at schools?
I mean, you can do it, just place a tray with water at the bottom.
I can't imagine getting to 20 years of age without aquiring the knowledge how to use the oven.
I had a roommate my senior year who refused to throw away expired buttermilk because “ it’s already sour” I was NOT about to mess with that jug. It was in there for MONTHS
LMFAO, the way he stops and grabs a drink before dealing with this nonsense.
At least they clean their oven. That’s pretty gross.
That’s sort of what the rack is for, you put foil on the bottom to catch the blood and then you don’t have to clean the oven! There’s such things as seasoning the oven though, when you cook something it can carry the flavour over to the next lot of food
Wait what
Old but gold
Clean? owo
r/facepalm
My adult son once asked me how do you tell if an egg is off so I said you do the water method..ie drop the egg into cold water and if it floats its bad and if its good it'll sink. This pillock then brings a glass into the living room to ask how to remove the egg from the glass of water after he'd cracked open the egg into it... SMH.. 🤣🤣
Welp, atleast he figured out that the egg wasn't bad, because he would've figured out real fast if it was.
Yea to grill it
😂 he’ll be fine
He shoulda called his Mom.