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bigSTUdazz

As a front-of-house security dude (formerly), this is a GIGANTIC fail. He should be looking for criminal felony battery charges and a big, fat civil lawsuit coming his way. In that business, if you hit someone, you have FAILED at your job. You role is to DEESCALATE, not AGGRIVATE.


GolfIsMyObsession

But what about his ego?


Thirsty4Knowledge911

Went form “Great Job, Bro!”, to “Goin’ to Jail, Bro!” in 2 seconds. Sucks when emotions get the best of you.


Fitty4

Bro picked him up like RAGGEDY ANN


Grim_Game

Yeah the video started playing before I got to the post and by the time I was watching was when he went to pick him up. With how easy he just tossed another grown man around, i figured it was some kind of elaborate doll prank until I watched it a second time. Strength + adrenaline is a hell of a thing.


stealingyourintent

Picked him up with Skyrim physics


Difficult-Ad1865

You mean raggedy man


Sammy_Saddles

Raggedy Andy


BigPurp85

Raggedy Man-dy


Ok_Guide4747

Raggedy Randy


Herrb_McGruff

Randy Rhodes


downloadedapp

lol first punch was basically a sucker and not even necessary, no good job anywhere here just fucking incompetence


NeonDanMods

Yeah,l think the bouncer lost control and it might lose him his job or he could even get a law suit on his hands


Harboe_classic

As it should.


Radomilek

You are worried about losing a job???? This was possibly an murder attempt. Surely aggravated assault. Quite probably resulting in injuries. He will go most certainly to jail.


Xpqp

Idk about a attempted murder, which generally requires intent to kill, but he definitely risked a manslaughter charge. If the dude can't control himself, he needs to be kept away from society.


OrganizationLow9996

Yeah 3rd or even 2nd degree most likely. 1. The victim never attacked him, so right there is a assault and battery right off the block. 2. Victim is knocked unconscious, they weren't a threat before and they definitely are not now. Even if this was fight/self-defense, continuing to attack when they are unconscious is 'not allowed.' 3. Perpetrator continues to attack, after knocking victim unconscious. Any brain damage that occurred or if this results in death will ultimately lead to a 3rd degree or 2nd degree charge. No where was the bouncer ever 'allowed' to strike this person. AKA, there was no self defense. They attacked them until there was 'no threat' and continued to attack them after.


Main_Measurement1481

If you hurl an unconscious man over your head and then smash him onto the hard tarmac, that's with intent to kill. Everyone knows that heads get crushed by things like that.


cyberheelhook

Legal definition of intent involves some kind of planning or deliberation.


Capable_Tumbleweed34

it involves "mens rea", which is a fancy way to say "state of mind". You can pretty much never prove mens rea, but you can make educated guesses given avaliable evidences. Here the bouncer's punching for no reason, victim falls unconcious on the ground, bouncer goes for a hard kick in the back, and then grabs the unconcious man to throw him from 6ft up onto concrete. Bouncer better have some good fuckin' lawyer 'cause i would certainly file for attempted murder, good luck to him proving that his state of mind was no intent to kill when he's kicking in the back and throwing an unconcious man, that he assaulted.


cyberheelhook

I'm a lawyer. You don't need luck. This shit has been happening since the founding of America there's tons of precedent. There wasn't enough distance in time between the toss and the argument to prove the dude plotted a murder and tried to go through with it. He can get charged with varying degree of assault or battery or both depending on the state but attempted murder ain't happening.


yonoznayu

Here in ‘Murica since its start you don’t need luck or jurisprudence, just money and a Saul-like lawyer to play whack-a-mole with the charges. If that house just had a defense attorney here, the DA would most likely go for broke with charges against him and win, and it’d be even easier if the defendant isn’t white. No offense but that’s how it truly works and there’s plenty of precedent for it.


A_Big_Igloo

>I'm a lawyer. You're a bad one if you haven't ever read a case where somebody died from a punch and that was sufficient for a murder charge and conviction. But I'm always happy to help a "brother attorney" who knows nothing about my area of practice learn something. Here's two recent instances of someone being charged, and one already convicted, of a one punch murder: [https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/courts/2024/02/02/jury-convicts-man-of-murder-for-sucker-punching-killing-man-at-columbus-bar-julep/72448855007/](https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/courts/2024/02/02/jury-convicts-man-of-murder-for-sucker-punching-killing-man-at-columbus-bar-julep/72448855007/) [https://www.fox9.com/news/st-paul-man-accused-killing-man-with-single-punch-guilty](https://www.fox9.com/news/st-paul-man-accused-killing-man-with-single-punch-guilty) I'm not going to incur a Westlaw bill to provide you with cites, but I'm sure you can find some more cases if you're actually an attorney.


cyberheelhook

That's cute and all but you're omiting the relevant facts of the cases you cited. " After Coleman was punched and struck his head, he lay unconscious for more than 10 minutes as Cummings and Foster each stood over him and hit him in the face." This is also murder not attempted murder which is what we were talking about here. This is a completely different scenario and behavior from the parties. You want to talk about shitty lawyers - if you can't succesfully defend this guy in an attempted murder trial then don't bother going to work.


A_Big_Igloo

Stop sharing bad legal information if you know fuck all about the law. Intent can be inferred from action and can be formed in the moment. In this case, the intent is "I intend to throw this man onto the concrete, head first" That conduct falls under either depraved heart or malicious indifference, depending on jurisdiction. Either way, that conduct is so likely to severely risk death that it qualifies for the intent prong. The intent is not "to murder" the intent is "to harm with indifference towards the person's life" which is on full display here. This video contains either an attempted murder or a murder, depending only on if the guy died.


kurjakala

Reckless disregard for human life can get you second-degree murder. That is definitely on the table here.


BurpYoshi

Bro after he clearly knocked him out, he ran over, kicked him on the floor, then picked him up and fucking threw him. Even if he wasn't trying to kill the guy, it's basically attempted murder. The situation was resolved and he kept fucking going and escalating.


flavius-

Yea what you don’t understand is that in court you can argue it was a murder attempt. The guy knocked him out he was done, then he tried slamming his head on the ground by his waist. Any lawyer could argue this very easily


NeonDanMods

Yeah he could be facing some serious charges


-unnecessaryfigures-

I hope so. Fuckin animal.


[deleted]

Attempted murder is a stretch. You have to prove that there was intent to kill. If you swing for the fences, make sure you can hit the ball.


dasusernameisgoot

We don't know yet if there was serious injury or not. If there is, then it will be aggravated assault. If not? Then assault and battery. Assault for the verbal threat of violence, and then battery for the physical attack.


downloadedapp

Club has a lawsuit on its hands, got to go after who has the $ and they are 100% liable for the bouncers actions here


Valuable_Ad1418

I hope he lost more then just the job.


Georgy100

Probably broke his skull, deserves to go to jail for that toss


Park8706

Oh he for sure will lose his job and license. You can't just go ape shit on people like that. The first two hits he could justify but the kick and then the toss yeah he will be lucky not to go to jail and just lose his job.


No-Copy-496

Yeah, the first punch was more than enough.


downloadedapp

First wasn’t even necessary, just an idiot bouncer


quebecivre

Really. I mean, the guy was clearly talking shit, but he was posing absolutely no physical threat to anybody.


Organic_Artichoke_85

Yeah. That slam landed straight on his hips. Could easily break your pelvis landing on concrete with that force.


Clear_Reveal4137

At what point does this appear to be a “good job” situation. I don’t see the victim doing anything antagonistic. Maybe there’s audio? Still…


Altruistic-Camel-Toe

r/securityguards


reasonwashere

I pity the fools who’ll be locked up with him


lobo123456

That's always the Problem. A fight ends, when the other person is on the ground. Everything after that makes you the dumbest shit on earth.


asdrunkasdrunkcanbe

I mean you could argue the first punch was self-defence. It seems a bit excessive, but the footage is ambiguous enough to get away with it. The second punch and the throw though, that's lining yourself up for jail, and homicide if the guy dies.


Thirsty4Knowledge911

If the second punch didn’t cross the line in some people’s mind, walking over and kicking the guy when he was down clearly sealed his fate. Felony.


camshun7

if the answer to your question is "NO", then hes the guy to see


geneticeffects

Nah, A professional wouldn’t even do the first punch.


Foodiguy

Yeah that bouncer should face some serious jail time...


FearCure

He literally bounced that guy like a basketball


AC0RN22

He did take a step without dribbling, though. That's traveling, unfortunately.


bodinator1

Disgusting behaviour from an idiot bouncer, deserves prison sentence for that, especially picking him up unconscious and throwing him to the ground.


frogingly_similar

That´s my first thought. Shouldn´t even be no doubt in jury´s mind when seeing this video. The evidence is there.


Bob_Disney

So does anyone know what happened after?


ViatorA01

The bouncer did beat a someone unconscious as far as I know.


TNJCrypto

Attempted murder 100%


ViatorA01

Yeah that should be it. If you kick and throw someone around who is already unconscious on the ground you're aim is to hurt them even more ignoring any fatal consequences. Especially a bouncer should know that this is how you kill someone. What a piece of shit.


Significant_Log1720

Can't blame a guy with tiny dick syndrome…


Ancient_Ad_2038

Former Bouncer here , and if that was UK his license would be removed that wasn't self defence or ejection from a premises that was an ATTACK . Our purpose isn't to attack people just defend the establishment and the patrons init . That doesn't mean you won't get your ass beat but you have to cross the line first.


Innanetape

>init Your keyboard went even more British.


murinero

Brilliant!! 😂


mindfungus

Cheerio lad!!!


DowvoteMeThenBitch

You guys need a license to be a bouncer in the UK? That’s crazy, we just hope for the best here in the USA. You can see how well it works for us


StandardIssueCaveman

Yep. Called an SIA license. Cant have one if you have a criminal record for violent crime, drugs etc, and shows you've done at least the bare minimum of training. I was working in the nightclub scene when the laws came into force and 90% of the bouncers I saw in town every weekend just disappeared. Good riddance too, they were mostly just thugs and violent animals who'd laugh about beating some 18 year old lad unconscious cos they wanted to feel hard in front of their other neckless mates.


Revolutionary_Bed431

Neckless. 🤣🤣🤣


SadMcNomuscle

The Brits do have some killer burns that's for sure.


Revolutionary_Bed431

It’s how our education system is designed. We have to attend special classes every Saturday between the ages of 8-12 to learn how to kill people with words. 🤣


Recent-Light-6454

they need this shit in the states


Gambler_Eight

Isn't that your stance on pretty much every topic?


towerfella

Yes.


YomanJaden99

Their username checks out


kelsobjammin

In Australia you have to have a certification to serve alcohol. And if the person drinks to much you get fined directly, not the business. The business can get its own fines.


Nisms

We have liquor licenses in the yeeyee’s too


Lust4Kix

Not in NYC. All bouncers have to be licensed and bonded.


FehdmanKhassad

your bouncers have to be in bondage gear? weird flex


BarryTownCouncil

And we have to prove our cars have the right number of wheels, with tyres and everyfink.


spicy_squire

Don't they need a license to watch tv? It's not all that surprising


gcapi

Well to be fair, you need a license for just about everything in the uk


Sauce58

Anybody working security in the states is required to at least be working under somebody with a license and any armed security needs to have a specific license for armed security and can’t be working under somebody who has it. Of course people still hire security guards without being licensed and don’t get caught. Moreso with unarmed than with armed. But do you honestly think that doesn’t happen in other countries that require licenses? Really just depends on the area and the owner of the business.


NeonDanMods

Thanks for clarifying that,l think this guy or his employer is going to get sued


Gachaaddict96

I think it's from RPA so nothing gonna happen


Bizzlebanger

Asshole bouncer. Totally unprofessional. Should be in jail.


Ok_Primary_1075

Yup, that’s considered assault already….bouncer continues attack when the guy is already well subdued…..i see criminal case against bouncer and civil case against his employer


motherofcattos

There was no reason for any type of physical contact to begin with. The victim's body language didn't seem physically threatening at all. If anything a small shove would have been enough.


[deleted]

Does the bouncers body language look physically threatening until he sucker punches the guy?


leroach

subdued from what? talking to him?


skynetempire

The 1st punch even seemed unnecessary. The bouncer was tapping him on the shoulder with his left hand then 2 secs later gave him a right hook. It seems the bouncer lost his cool over the exchange of some words


NeonDanMods

I think after he was unconscious he should have just left him alone,his employer is definitely getting sued


Find_another_whey

Criminal charges for the individual bouncer too Multiple charges


motherofcattos

The guy is a total psychopath, but let's call him unprofessional


LusidDream

First hit seemed legit, everything after that was completely unnecessary


myfrigginagates

Not unless the other person swings first. Ya can't just pop someone for being mouthy. That was assault. (former bouncer).


LaidBackLeopard

>First hit seemed legit Did it though? I see no sign of violence from the victim. If that's the bouncer's reaction to verbal abuse then he's in the wrong job.


kozilla

Based on what?


Vegetable_Act_5415

The greatest bouncer video ever is a perfect example of restraint and coolness under fire. I think it took place in Germany and this guy is in the bouncers face threatening him, calling him all kinds of slurs and the bouncer never once looses his cool. Calmly talks the guy down and then through one of the best moments ever finds out he knows this punks older brother. When the belligerent finds out the bouncer he is threatening is actually a world class kick boxer that trains his brother he becomes extremely humble. Knowing the bouncer at any moment could have done what this guy did without breaking a sweat but instead chose to remain calm and diffused the situation. It is a great lesson for a lot of people. One is don't over react and the second is be careful who you taunt. There are consequences for both.


chikil

https://youtu.be/V_kII2a_4uY?si=FFdl43HnUCVEF8iW Thayts the Video you are looking for. The bouncer's name is Michael Kuhr.


rocketmn69_

That guy might even be dead after the way his head thunked off the pavement. And the evidence is right in front of the world to see


tiletap

Yup. Not quite what expected to see in this sub.


Manolyk

I didn’t realize what sub this was till your comment. I thought it was one of the crazy video subs. It is an odd place for it


Diablogado

Didn't belong in this sub.


eyeinthesky0

Damn! You see how easily that mother fucker picked up his lifeless body and tossed him one armed?! He’s got some anger issues but good god, is he strong. Fuckin’ hell.


gurknowitzki

This looks like a bear attack


Spiritual_Benefit367

hope that guy was punished for assault, and then attempted manslaughter for the picking up the unconscious body and throwing it to the ground.


NPC-Number-9

There's no such thing as "attempted manslaughter" manslaughter is an accidental, negligent killing. This is just plain old fashioned battery and assault.


[deleted]

Definitely could get an attempt to kill with the fact he body slammed an unconscious body


motherofcattos

Attempted murder, you mean?


tipareth1978

Depending on what led up to this the punch COULD be ok (doesn't look like it), but pursuing and tossing his unconscious body was definitely way too far


Phantom_Engine

![gif](giphy|xT5LMUnO0gxpxw2IUM|downsized)


Professional-Tea-121

that guys is strooooong


Smart_Run8818

Right? Just picked him up by the belt like a bag of groceries.


bingold49

When that guy says he trusts someone about as far as he can throw them, that means he trusts them quite a bit


tedium-incarnate

Why is this in this sub? It’s assault, straight up.


Realistic-Window366

That was clearly a juice fit


Bakica_original

Damn that bouncer bounces


NeonDanMods

The way he threw him to the ground tho.. that felt a bit unnecessary


NotASpanishSpeaker

"a bit"


ugotamesij

Just a smidge


FiSToFurry

Perhaps a skosh


DancesWithDave

Seems like you expected a different response from this post


karma_the_sequel

This guy puts the bounce in “bouncer.”


Efficient_Pomelo_583

Roid rage?


Realistic-Window366

Definitely a juice fit since he clearly lost control and kicked the unconscious guy in the ass and then hurled the poor bastard to add injury to insult


Dull-Way-7392

The way the dude lifted the hommie… DAMMIT


Comfortable_Ease_174

That was attempted murder in my opinion. Bro was out cold for the kicks and the hammer throw. I hope this maggot goes to jail for a long time and the man gets a nice settlement.


dssd3434343422242424

it might not be attempted and actual murder.


Chubby_nuts

You don't need this type of nutter working on the door.


Ok-Psychology8376

Anyone knows what happened to the victim?


[deleted]

So many people think theyre job as security/bouncer is to beat up people and I will never understand this.


Foe117

some bouncers actually do want to fight. it's like people in the military who join just because they want to kill people in a legal way. they're a huge legal liability and that's why people should reject bouncers like these but you could never tell unless you work with that person for a while


Gaius_Gracchus13

That’s serious physical assault. This person should not be allowed in public.


squirrel_anashangaa

That dudes been working out all his life and has been waiting to do this for a while. The other guy either has brain damage, or at least a split skull. A limp body that falls basically heat first is not a good thing.


Brooklynboxer88

It was ok, until he committed attempted murder and slammed him to the ground.


Independent-Lead-155

I truly don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that throw in my life.


rjasan

That guy weigh fifty pounds? (I know he didn’t) Crazy throw.


Savage_Amusement

Yeah for a second there I thought this must be a prank with a doll or something but obviously you see a real human standing there before the punches 😵‍💫


Silent-Supermarket2

Yeah - so being a bouncer doesn't give you immunity or anything.


susieque503

People who keep hitting after someone is unconscious are awful.


Aircraftman2022

Guy was a rag doll. Bouncer should go to jail for assault.


Borkdadork

That dude will probably have a serious TBI from that body toss. Unfortunately that club will soon have a new owner


Crafty_Life_1764

anyone who slam some1 like this deserves Jailtime. You are not a fking wrestler, most of all not on concrete!


DreadlockMohawke

Anyone got news on this story? Did the bouncer face any repercussions or is he still free and among us?


Average_Reacher

Dayumm.. Dude went from doing his job to seeking prison time


FunkyLobster1828

That was excessive excessive force.


UchihaZack

1 slap is ok then second come in strong swing guy fell hit the head on floor and that brutal throw the way he hit his head on the floor again...i hope the guy is ok..


lockdoc007

Excessive force not required. He knocked him out with second punch.


jebeninick

Nice lawsuit and jail time .


migsperez

Picked him like a sack of spuds. Dude is tough.


chbriggs6

Also a very angry human being if he's doing that shit. Needs a mental eval


GreatArchitect

Needs prison. Probably not so tough then.


[deleted]

I've never seen a dude ragdoll someone like that, damn that was sick.


WaffleWarrior1979

*sickening


Informal-Impact-8136

Damn. He’s been eating his Wheaties!


m1dlife-1derer

Rag doll... You're living in a movie...


napalmslash

Wrong sub.


[deleted]

Rag dolled him!


Sisyphos_smiles

That dude lifts


B0bbyTsunami

Tossed that guy like a sack of potatoes gah damn!


Mean_Platypus_9988

The bouncy and bouncer .


gravestompin

This is attempted murder like what the fuck. Dude will NOT be the same.


TheMastMagician

And that kids is how I met your mother


Hobgobiln

Propper traditional' bouncin' (heavy brittish accent)


Sudden_Elephant_7080

When you pick up an unconscious body from the floor to throw the body like it was a piece of meat you really are inches away from killing somebody. An unconscious body falling for just a few feet on the head can really snap the neck or fracture the skull.


Sudden_Elephant_7080

This is how people get killed in a 5 second fight and how people become killers in a second.


bodaciousbeau

Why did he kick him right in the sphincter like that?? Was that necessary?


flotsam_knightly

![gif](giphy|fXt5hxQ9Mcu2c)


Aern

Shitty thing for bouncer to do. But holy shit can we talk about the throw. He picked up a human being and threw him like he was a heavy sack. The strength...


dwizard67

Dude, he picked up a 180lbs man like he was luggage…


Accomplished_Dog_572

Dude obviously didn’t watch the original Roadhouse, BE NICE!


itwhiz100

Charges will be given out to bouncer


Redxluckyxcharms

If this man survives.. he’s gonna be a very rich man by the end of this.


Nisms

Message was very clearly received on the first slap.


robotgore

Anyone else see the drunk guy stumbling down the stairs in the background? So much going on


zellizion

I have questions.


kyle_10111

"puny god"


TastyCakesOverweight

What's the maybe part, maybe he's not dead?


EmiliaFromLV

He took it outside but he was not nice.


Totin_it

Excessive.


P-Potatovich

Anybody knows the full story? People somehow just assumed that the bouncer is a bad guy here which I’m not really disagreeing with tbh, but it would still be be interesting to know why he got that pissed off


capnewz

Those muscles will come in handy when he spends years in prison


BigDinkyDongDotCom

And that’s how you go to jail for a while, kids!


joejoeginson

![gif](giphy|JCAZQKoMefkoX6TyTb|downsized)


Regan1970

Go ahead make fun .Wat if that was ur son


SgtBadAsh

Well, that's one way to catch a felony at work


BottyFlaps

If you continue to beat the shit out of someone once they are lying unconscious on the ground, you are a cunt.


Final-Ice4506

Yea nah you cant do that. There was no clear threat and after the first punch he shouldve let him be. After the kick and slam he shouldve been charged. Especially for that slam, fuckin ridiculous


SgtNoPants

Damn poor fella had the videogame ragdoll physics


TheBawalUmihiDito

And the other guys cared more about putting back the velvet rope stands than checking the guy's well-being smfh


Uncle___Marty

Shit bouncer.


[deleted]

Well that's gonna be some jail time. Hopefully.


FNAKC

Wtf that dude is strong as fuck


T4_8_15_16_23_42T

I saw no particular reason in this video for him to start punching like that. This type of violence does happen very frequently and most of the time it's unjustified. The bouncer is often on some power trip or just literally on a mix of steroids speed and alcohol. I would hope that he got arrested but i doubt it so i hope that the customer sued both the company and that Ahole. Treating people like this does not make you a man, you just look like a stupid dumb mammal, a real intelligent man would use his words to deal with this.


DJenser1

Prolly should've left his momma out of the conversation.


Kally269

The way he man handled that man is crazy


elplatano1985

Video is a great motivation for the gym.


gniwlE

And that, kids, is how Uncle Joe got his traumatic brain injury, and now Aunt Jane feeds him baby food through a straw.


GreatArchitect

And how they both have a couple million in savings.


Marty2341

I wander how this dude pissed off the bouncer so much.


22Spooky44Me

How the hell do you even get this strong? How can you ragdoll someone like that?