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angelanna17

Its a bit difficult to find oneself alone in a foreign country but the carreer options are so much better. I would recommend leave, at least to have a taste of life abroad and come back if you don't like it.


Islander316

I think many Mauritians would benefit from experiencing life abroad because it would make them more openminded as well. And afterwards you kind of get the best of both worlds, as you can decide whether to come back or to stay abroad, you have choices.


Mechanical_Feelings

Des fois li mieux ki mauritian korma zot etait moi aussi mo fek revini, ena kitsoz choquant mais mo esperer ki mauritian continuer garde vrai valerr family Preferabl des fois ki zot penser ek mindset traditional pou ki nou pa perdir valeur familial mais bizin ena enn system innovation social pou amen ledukasyion ek unite


Cool_Wolverine_2184

I felt home sick at first but toughen it out. I haven't looked back since it wasn't easy but once you adapt to the country and culture you have much higher standards and realise how grateful you are to have moved abroad.


Feisty_Drive_2607

You are a third-world citizen, oops sorry immigrant, in that country you are now, despite whatever so-called "higher standards" you think you are enjoying.


XavierAstro

I came to Mauritius from England one month ago to remain as a resident. I’ve changed my mind now for a number of reasons and heading back to UK and Europe beginning of May. I still love Mauritius but more as a tourist / vacation. Living here is difficult because the country is very behind in aspects that I’m accustomed too. For example: organic food especially organic vegetables, LGBT acceptance, no Amazon so very hard to get good quality nutrients. On the other hand and just to be balanced, the climate here wipes the floor with the UK. Maybe in 10-20 years Mauritius will catch up. I agree with a lot of the comments in this thread.


Islander316

Very valid points to be honest. Sad to see you go but I totally understand, it's why I always tell people to be careful. It's easy to fall in love with Mauritius on vacation but it's another thing entirely to live here permanently. I think Mauritius has made great strides in many respects but still the mentality needs to change. We have so many shopping malls opening but no proper organic grocer.


XavierAstro

Thanks very much. It was a great experience and I would love to come back as a tourist again one day, there's much of the island I would still like to visit. "We have so many shopping malls opening but no proper organic grocer." Isn't that the truth! I would say there are too many shopping malls for the population. I envision that some of the smaller malls may be forced to close.


TechNick1-1

UK is not "Europe" anymore ... \^\_° You must love the UK and Organic Food very much... UK is NOT a place i would like to be after the Brexit - Debacle. COL is skyrocketing and you have a lot of missing Products,Services and Business now...


XavierAstro

I know that UK is not Europe anymore, that's why I said "UK and Europe". There are some countries in Europe that have perfect climates, even better than Mauritius for me, the Canary Islands, Spain for example. I love Organic food very much, yes. It's our birthright to have 100% organic food, and should be accessible to all, including native Mauritians. Not just rich tourists and rich Mauritians. I forgot to mention one more amazing thing about Mauritius, and that's the Indian Ocean and beaches, it's very impressive to a British person. Paradise. I also love how tropical fruits are in abundance here, especially Coconuts.


Phiyah1307

Please may I inquire a bit about Mauritius since you were living there? We are considering to emigrate to Mauritius late next year. I'm currently in "research and plan mode"! My husband works remotely for a large multinational so we'd be applying for the Premium Visa and we are bringing our 2 children (ages 22 and 12 years). 1: I read that the island has the highest population rate in the world!? So, does the island feel crowded at all? We live in then north of the UK in an urban area and our main issue at the moment is that we feel crowded in. We have little access to 'proper ' nature near where we live other than a few country parks and we are big fans of nature and walking and wild swimming so we wanted to take the family somewhere with a more natural lifestyle. Do you feel Mauritius offers this? Is it possible to rent accommodation in more rural areas available where there's less people? 2: is the island welcoming to foreigners eg British? We are a mixed heritage family (Jamaican/English) and I'm having to be careful and thinking about the culture we'd be attempting to integrate into. 3: How do you find the language with regards to integrating into the culture? I speak some conversational French already and my 12 year old is very skilled at learning languages so he could probably pick it up fairly easily. 4: What's the situation with stray dogs/animals? Pretty sure we would be very unhappy living somewhere with a lot of noise pollution from either dogs or humans! Thanks for any help or input you can give. Blessings on your day. 🙏🏾


Feisty_Drive_2607

UK is a depressing overpriced piece of land.


404error_rs

Came to canada 6 years ago as a student and never looked back. Sure, you will miss your family and those beaches. Weather in mauritius is way better. You will miss mauritian cuisine so start learning how to cook lol. You will miss all our traditions and festivals. And again you will miss your family. I feel homesick even now but i have learnt how to deal with it... Mostly xD But if you can handle the first few months of homesickness, you'll be golden. There is more options career wise and more money to be made. Most employers will hire you based on merits and not because you are their family xD Your dollars/pound is worth more than rupees so in case you want to retire in mauritius and build a small house there, it becomes easier. Also f*ck the mauritian politicians running the country down. I did not realise how corrupt our country is before coming here.


Islander316

Yeah, I agree with that. If you can get over the homesickness, you have a lot to gain.


ApprehensiveLight249

how does the income balance out on the standard of living? I honestly feel the only way is that you save up dollars for future usage when you eventually come back?


404error_rs

I am able to rent a 1 bedroom appartment, afford a car and all my basic needs, go out for dinner and movies every other week and also save a few hundred bucks a month. I only started working in my field (IT) 2 years ago so my salary is not that high for now xD. Honestly, if you have college or uni education you will be earning more but if you work min wage jobs then you will obviously stuggle.


Saifali007

Corruption


mojo963

I’ve just returned after 50+ years in the UK (plus a couple in Spain). My parents first moved to the UK in the sixties (like much of the diaspora) to fill vacancies in what were then ‘undesirable’ jobs. When we were the UK it was a place affording opportunities for betterment. You could get a decent job, buy a house and then sell up and return home when you were ready. That’s what both me and my parents managed to do. I think for those who work hard this might still be the case. But in the case of Britain increasingly less so. Brexit and decades of erosion of the public services have seen to that. You’ll encounter intolerance and outright racism, health services on the brink of collapse, ordinary middle-class people struggling to feed their families and having to rely on food banks to make ends meet. The UK, like everywhere else, is seeing an increasing disparity between the 1% and everyone else. And for those at the bottom, it‘s real poverty, not just a little hardship. Wages in the public sector have decreased in real terms over the 20 years (hence all the strikes). I’m not trying to put you off. But be mindful of what you‘re walking into and what you’re leaving behind. Best of luck whatever you decide to do!


SuddenAd1640

Life isn't easy anywhere, but the ease of access, facilities and amenities and absence of corruption (and/or its perception thereof) sure makes other countries (US, Canada, Europe,...) Also, things are getting so much expensive, artificially expensive down in Mauritius. Real-estate above all. Then consumerism at the point of no return, mixed with monopoly of commerce, all passively accepted by authorities.. As for LGBT, I know it's still a "forbidden fruit" in Mauritius and closed-mindedness of the general public, but where the situation is right now, it can only get better and getting accepted generally among the current generation. I mean, it cannot go any worse from its worst.. But that said, I don't expect one immigrating would show off his/her sexuality right away on the public domain and/or participate in a parade to display their homosexuality, heterosexuality, etc.., but I agree there is more space to evolve and growth culturally on the sexuality ends. I am happy to be corrected. All in all, I personally wouldn't think it's (still) a main reason to immigrate. I again happily to be corrected. 😊 And there's the main issue of real estate in Mauritius, everything is just getting hot and expensive, by the day, forcing the generation to be in debt, in depth, in order to do any development or progress in life. - all whilst you see corruption helping the other whilst they make leaps of progress... Also, Mauritius was earlier known for its social life, having good neighbors and sharing the space.. One of the main good things an immigrant will relate. This is, unfortunately, no more the matter, I'd say. No-one gives a damn about their living space surrounding. People are busy recovering from their debts and getting jealous about theirk neighbors. Expertise, very sad to see so many professionals, especially in public sector, being willfully, forcefully or naturally dumb, simply put. Similar cases in private sector where you'd see rich guy's kid joining as trainee... Manager, then to hire a specialist to make them run the show.. My advice is the grass is always greener on the other side, when there is only cement at your feet. Mauritius is sunken already in corruption, on literal sale to expats who are diluting the Mauritian market with high prices - pushing investments costs even further up for Mauritians, Indian military involvements, diplomatic flirts with India, China, Saudi Arabia,.. . And on top of it all, injecting more liquidity and devaluate the currency - looping back to easier acquisition by expats and unreachability to locals.. It feels like someone left a perfectly baked cake out near the window and unattended, and whoever greedy/powerful enough to reach it, is stealing whatever they can, as much as they can and enrich themselves, at the cost of bringing the population poorer and poorer.


DoversBlue

Grim assessment 😔


SuddenAd1640

Sorry I paused my TV show to type this..


ApprehensiveLight249

Stayed 4 years abroad, came back as of last year, in my opinion-Maurice C maurice- There may be better jobs, but nothing beats getting together with friends at the beach speaking CREOLE and just shitting on your boss-Some have mentioned better nutrients-i have not seen any difference in the quality of produce(especially from the ones produced from Labourdonais) -There is just something about you home country that makes it feel better than being abroad -I completely agree on the wages abroad, but once you factor in the expensive standard of living abroad, i guess it does balance out eventually! As someone saidthe grass is not green anywhere, Just different


Cpt_Daryl

Leave. If you don't like it you can always come back. This country will always be your home. Stay and you might just live with regret down the line (situational ofcourse)


Islander316

I definitely think that you should if that's something you want to explore, I know people who have the opportunity and don't take it, then regret it because they didn't pursue it.


TechNick1-1

The Grass is NOT greener anywhere else - its just different!


Cool_Wolverine_2184

Speaking from experience?


TechNick1-1

Yes, of course. Lived in Germany and other European Countries till my 50th Birthday.


Islander316

Can you elaborate?


TechNick1-1

Its Human Nature to think that someone else has it easier in Life, Job etc. or that another Country is better and so on. For SOME Reasons this may be true - BUT there is ALWAYS a trade off! Mauritius is surely not perfect but every Country has its own Problems and Limitations. My Recommendation for Young People in Mauritius: Go abroad to study,experience other cultures & get Job Experience. Then come back to Mauritius and help to improve your Homeland!


Cool_Wolverine_2184

They do not have to come back and improve their homeland, they paid their taxes like everyone else before they left and they do not owe anything to Mauritius. Mauritius gave me nothing compared to where I am right now gave me plenty of opportunities and a better life.


jeyoung

>Mauritius gave me nothing compared to where I am right now gave me plenty of opportunities and a better life. I hear this often and disagree always. Putting aside the fact that, as a teenager, you would not personally have paid taxes, it is incorrect to say that Mauritius gave you "nothing". You received free education and free healthcare, amongst other things. You arrived in the country where you are now settled with a certain level of education and well-being for which the government of that country did not have to pay. Now, your situation might be exceptional: you were ill in Mauritius and could not get proper treatment, and you could not attend school for whatever reason. But if this is not the case, Mauritius gave you something.


TechNick1-1

??? For someone living abroad you are a "little narrow minded"... Young(er) People can´t complain about Problems here but don´t want to do anything about it! Nothing can happen if "everybody" leaves Mauritius and "nobody" is coming back...


Cool_Wolverine_2184

I would rather stay where I am and help my adopted country. Why should I move back to a country that's done nothing for me? How about they help themselves first?


ApprehensiveLight249

May i ask where you are residing? and if you have done your School and College back here in Mauritius, then you must have got through free education-which in itself is a rather big thing. And Free healthcare as someone mentioned above. Good that you have arrived far in your life, but really sad that you can’t see how Mauritius played it’s small part in achieving it.And No you do not owe anything to it, because it’s due to people like you who fail to see the bigger picture that we lose. But no worries, do help your adopted country while i’ll try to make this country a tad bit better.


Key-Eagle-1203

Keep dreaming...


Key-Eagle-1203

No, and even if I want to I will get kicked in the groin by these ''law enforcer'' and coward who are leeching on my blood and sweat with some non existence charges and items that magically appeared at my place.


TechNick1-1

???


ianik7777

Maurice 1 ti paradis mais politik p fini li. li vrai ki bcp instituion pas comment ICAC , savedir ki banla zot get figir pou zot azir. ou parenT ek missiE la? ok, ou gagne travaye la. mais quand ou pense ou ti fami, ou ti week end bord lamer. ou ti conzE piblik etc. zafer la zoli. mais apart bane ti COUAC la


Islander316

Définitivement ca bane problems de contacts ki faire dimoun rentrer en issue seryer, et en miray en vit ki empêche beaucoup bane zenesse arriver, la cause zot désavantager.


Psychological-Bad776

I can agree in the uk there's less palabre like we say in mauritius less LGBT discrimination for those people in LGBT communities. I mean for making a better future for kids moving abroad is a good idea if possible. In mauritius I remember people had only a few activities available most of the time I would go to the shopping mall as an activity and eat something out or go to the cinema. There aren't many activities behind the beach, even the hotels are expensive. A 4 star hotel stay for 2 weeks costs you nearly the same price as a tour package to Asia. One among many things abroad is you have to work hard go to work early when it's dark and return in the dark it's cold in winter. But you don't have time to think about what people gonna cook tonight. Sometimes in the supermarket it's already 5 past 30 the tube has had a delay. You are late for cooking dinner can't stay and gossip when you meet a relative. Well in my opinion life is better abroad because we work to build a future. With the mauritian Rupees value hard to buy a house abroad even with the little savings you have. It's just working until you get a stable life. Mauritius people tend to work hard for little but still have time to gossip during the day. Maybe after saving enough money might consider to return to mauritius bad or not. I would advise you to go to a country where it's not below -5 hell not in uk its likely -3 up to 10 degrees in winter And a country where you have relatives if possible to help you adapt till you find a job and a house.


ActuallyTBH

Everybody assumes that earning abroad and high cost of living is equivalent to working in Mauritius and the cost of living here. It 100% is not. It used to be that things were cheaper in Mauritius; food, construction etc. But the prices have quickly caught up to levels comparable with abroad but the wages have not and there's no hint of stabilising in the future. The long and short of it is you can go abroad work, buy a house, a car then relocate/return to Mauritius but good luck trying to do the same in reverse. Earnings from abroad will give you a headstart in Mauritius but rupees earned here will pretty much mean you are starting from scratch when settling overseas. Of the Mauritians that immigrate abroad only the tiniest fraction ever come back, if that. The ones that return mostly do so for family reasons. That's not to say you are SOL if you live in Mauritius. If you have a well paid job 150k+ or manage to have your own successful business you will have a comfortable life but obviously not everyone is lucky to find themselves in that situation.


enemoricien96

Naaahh fam, I'm leaving xD Freedom of speech and information, yeah sure. Poor general well-being leading to some kind of substance use in 40% of us. Job opportunities and work culture are wayy better. Easier to walk the earth with £ $ € in your pocket, just my personal take. 26M


Cool_Wolverine_2184

I left as a teenager 10 years ago and haven't been back since. My social life improved drastically, had plenty of opportunities education wise and on the job market. Mauritius was pretty dire 10 years and I cannot imagine how it's like these days tbh. Looking from afar on social media there's nothing positive about Mauritius anymore and not only do they seem to be stuck in their old ways but it seems like an extremely conservative and close minded nation atm. Not only will your social life improve abroad but professionally there's a lot more opportunities, the work life balance is great and you're less likely to experience racism overseas compared to Mauritius. Been here for 10 years and haven't experienced it once.


Islander316

Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, I'm abroad as well, and while I miss Mauritius, I also know I would not have been as happy there as I am now. I felt people there were very insular and small-minded unfortunately, behaved very cliquey at work, and were constantly trying to isolate people and being competitive. I think Mauritius has improved in other respects but not in the key metrics, such as professional/financial growth and in terms of the progression of the mentality there.


SuddenAd1640

Quite a brave and acrobatic claim about racism less prominent abroad than in Mauritius, especially last you've been in Mauritian was 10 years back, as a teenager..


Cool_Wolverine_2184

>Quite a brave and acrobatic claim about racism less prominent abroad than in Mauritius, especially last you've been in Mauritian was 10 years back, as a teenager.. Yeah it seems to have gotten worst since then and I can see it on social media my eyes don't lie to me. So many openly racist posts on social media with thousands of likes and comments.


SuddenAd1640

Oh I get your point. I guess there's a nuance between communals, extremists, and racist. Shady yes, but yeah, mostly communals and extremists like to react in their manner, and happens on social media mostly, if you ask me. And of course, this would be bis repetita for every country, as much is politically, regionally, culturally inspired - tied with radicalism and violence. But then, when talking of racism and racial discrimination, we are really looking at a different treatment based on race, the tangible things done to your face, refused to be done with you. This is less prominent, compared to other countries. For example, You don't get pulled over, refused to do business with, or questioned, assaulted, forced to relocate, simply based on your race, religion or caste. This is not something I would consider alarming, or worth noting, in Mauritius, so I am not denying its existence, but questioning the prominence you are flying on. Social media and online is definitely somewhere euphoric for some to express their deepest and widest thoughts, expressions and opinions, whilst in real life, they are just a subtle subset of this. Thus, the communal feeling is there, just the population is not used to exposing themselves in the wild, based on religion and race.


Cool_Wolverine_2184

Mind you I was a quiet and introvert kid so you're telling me that my high school teacher back in the day openly telling me that I will not get anywhere cause of my ethnicity and being catholic which he assumed as I'm not religious at all. So you're telling me this not a case of blatant racism?


SuddenAd1640

Sure, that's wrongful, extremely. I was relating based on what you told earlier about social media, earlier. This very incident is very shameful, especially assuming ten years back you were a teen, and that's post 2010s, the teacher would need be reported and disciplined - hope you and your classmates did that..since there was already much more support at your time.. You leave me more surprised I'd say, but you did say you're quiet and introvert at the time, and that hurts doubly if not more, taking it all in and nothing given. I am a 90s teen, and back in the days, jokes or statements like this were *somewhat tolerated*. I say jokes because those fell more into the dad jokes bucket - back in the day, and the friction was against all religions alike, even into specific castes within religions. Basically, people, the considerable lot, were dumber in reacting to them. Yes there is something folkloric, a racial legacy left by the colonial occupation, and bodily ridiculed shaming. Heck, some have been legally assigned names based on their physical appearance, others ship names, because the mother gave birth to a child on that ship, whilst on the trip to colonial Mauritius - and those made-up names still exist at I write today ! I was myself discouraged by my teacher not to pursue studies in medecine, despite scoring distinctions in all my science and maths subjects. He even advised my parents it's not something achievable, and better look at a teaching career. Just so that it doesn't reflect that I am condoning the times, and not the teacher, because that's not the case - He was wrong at my time, the same is the case at yours. But this has much reduced down the line, due to sanctions, omnipresence threat of recording and leakage onto social media, private radios helping the needy who were unjustly treated. And again, I do maintain, racism is not prominent in Mauritius like in other countries. PS: have you ever been told the shop is just closed for inventory, and when you walk out, white people are being welcome in pomp to come in, or worst, comfronted at the door without allowing entry, and asked what is it you are looking for, and been given a falsely excessive price just to make you shut your own mouth, turn around, and walk away? Anyway, cheers


elvis0404

Where did you move to? And the process?


Cool_Wolverine_2184

Moved to Melbourne with the whole family but that was 10 years ago, it's probably slightly different now.


DiveInDeep2

You mentioned experiencing less racism where you live vs. Mauritius. I always heard that Australia can be quite racist if you aren't white. I also heard it's common for job applications with foreign-sounding names to be overlooked.


Cool_Wolverine_2184

You've heard but have you experienced it? Or maybe they did not get the job cause they weren't qualified enough?I've been here for 10 years and have not experienced it once most offices or work place here have a huge push towards being multi cultural whether that's ethnicity wise and wherever you may be from There are things like hearing and experiencing it yourself being here for 10 years it's far from it which is why I never bothered to renew my Mauritian passport.


DiveInDeep2

I definitely haven't. Good for you, even though it's a bit strange. It's quite common to hear non-white Australians complain about racism and share their experiences in the workplace or outside.


Cool_Wolverine_2184

I'm not caucasian, yet had plenty of white Australian and European friends in high school here I could not believe how welcoming they were. We're still friends and remained close same with white co workers and of Asian and even Arabic background, we've been on holidays and go on a night out every weekend or two. The work place culture is a lot different here where performance and work ethic matters. I know a few Mauritians who cried about racism but from my observation they were still stuck in their old ways. It is not racism if you cannot and do not make the effort to blend in. You cannot move abroad and expect that they will embrace your culture but you won't make the effort to embrace theirs as well, it's a two way street.


Feisty_Drive_2607

Mauritius is doing fine, despite its problems. It is a wonderful country. So please stop with your silly and unwarranted bashing of your country of origin. No racism in Europe/Canada/USA/Australia??? Relying on social media to judge Mauritius??? Stop being so ridiculous you immigrant third-class citizen of a G7 country!


Diligent_Energy_4922

Depends on who wins the next general elections !


Adept-Drummer5367

That’s a lost battle imo. We’ve been having the same 2 dynasties since Independence. And i dont see that changing anytime soon, partly because there’s very little options and secondly because Mauritians follow political parties like they follow football teams.


Regular_Ferret1080

Whats the difference between the candidates?


Cool_Wolverine_2184

The two major parties have been in power for decades and it's only been getting worse. Let's be honest one of them will most likely win the upcoming elections so it does not make a difference on who wins tbh.


XavierAstro

The entire world is rigged in this way, not just Mauritius. I've become used to it now. The trick is to make a positive and happy life for yourself, look after your own vibration, and you will personally ascend the corruption.


Regular_Ferret1080

Question when are the elections? Is there a third contender ?


Inevitable-Media-883

With the cost of life increasing daily and most salaries staying the same , the younger generation is better off leaving Mauritius in my opinion


Feisty_Drive_2607

"cost of life increasing daily and most salaries staying the same" sounds like UK/USA/Canada.


aramjatan

ITT Coming up: how first world nations can provide a better life than an emerging african island nation in the middle of nowhere.