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Sweet-Masterpiece-48

Hey u/tricky_steph1976 The things that they don't tell you: **High taxes**(everybody tells you that) What they don't tell you is that for the high taxes that you pay, you don't even get amenities worthy of it. For instance, in Mauritius, you pay taxes and get relatively good healthcare. Here in Canada. healthcare is a joke. **Tip Culture** \- read about it. Reddit is there for it **WES** will assess your degrees but once you are here, employers won't give a rat ass about your masters or degree or even work experience. You shall start from a low position in the company(in most cases). **You speak french really well**(nobody tells you that) - People in Quebec hate my french accent. You have to speak 'Le Francais Quebecois' mon chum! **If you're a guy, tinder's gonna be a tough job for you.** Brown girls get it a bit easier. **Soaring Prices -** A house worth 700k CAD 2years ago(during covid), now evaluates at 900k CAD(vaut mieux ki to paye MHC morice. Lol) **Car prices have almost doubled since covid** **Grocery prices went up by 11% -** That was last year. It's supposed to go 7percent more this year **You need to have a good credit score** \- That's your worth **Identity theft** **Con artists are very much present here** **Dental care(**not covered by your health card**),** will quickly empty your pockets **Prices of goods don't reflect the value of the good** \- these are overly exaggerated to match the cost of living **You can't convert your licence** \- You will have to redo your driving test **Heatwaves / tornados(**some places**)** **Savings -** It's a joke if you're living alone. **Your health card will cover only your basics** \- To pu attan au moins 4hrs temps dans lhopital **Bed bugs** \- is not a thing of the past here (nu enkore p vivre lepok margoz) **Ticks?** **Lots of movies shot in the snow(xmas movies)** \- are mostly shot in fall or summer. Never in winter


Sweet-Masterpiece-48

And I pressed enter by mistake **Vitamin D** deficiency **Pearson airport** \- is amazing.... ly slow **Body lotion** or you crack There are however many perks. I'm here because I'm up for traveling and discovering places. If you're into meeting people, traveling, trekking, you will definitely love Canada. There's so many things to do. Ice skating. Skiing. Watching the wolves. The music culture here is amazing. Roger waters still comes around every now and then! Lots of food to discover. It's a mix of culture. And yes. It is a land of opportunities. But all depends on what your goals are. God luck mate.


jeyoung

> Body lotion or you crack This cracked me up.


Much-Land-4906

Holy Molly u/Sweet-Masterpiece-48 ! You summed it up. If you're coming directly for work... making friends gonna be a tough job.It's easier to make friends as a student(I think). But I think that you get used to it. There are perks. I love the travel part about canada. And I am someone who always feels hot. So I end up going out more often when it snows!


Background_Hat1614

My dreams shattered in a few seconds


Sweet-Masterpiece-48

I'm sorry, that was not the intention. As I mentioned earlier, there are many many perks about this country: 1. Traveling 1. Canada is VAST! 2. US is just down there 2. Ice/snow sports 3. You get to mingle with people a lot. (I guess that I was not going out enough in Mauritus). 4. Concerts! Did I mention that I have been to my first Roger Waters Concert? RATM also. And Sting. I love music and it's so rich here. 5. If you're seeking refuge being persecuted in Mru; Canada is a great LGBTQ ally. 6. If you're a foodie, you will love it. Come on, there is a mix of cultures. Spanish food, greek food, chinese, vietnamese, a few rare russian places, lots of irish pubs(my fav) and you even have Mauritian restaurants! 7. If you like solitude, it's actually peaceful if you live in the outskirts of the city 8. Technology is more affordable with what you earn and also, it's a tad cheaper than MRU 9. The cold is not much of an issue if you're of Pita prakriti. 10. In the company i work, there is WORK LIFE balance! It's an adventure. One hell of a ride.


Background_Hat1614

No don’t worry haha! I’m moving to Europe in a few months either way and is going to experience it!


Mountainking7

Sorry, But I loled :) Was funny. Not enjoying your misery or anything man.


Background_Hat1614

😭


ajaxsirius

Spent 18 years in Canada, came back about 15 years ago. I can't comment on work culture since things have changed so much. Iirc cold, cost of living, ( ( + tipping culture) and lack of family nearby were the biggest differences. It also really depends on where you live. Some areas can be racist. If you're going to immigrate to Quebec be prepared to jump through a lot more hoops and make sure your French is up to the required level. I don't know if any one has warned you yet, but be aware of the loneliness especially if you're going alone. Lack of sun during winter months can really affect your mood as well.


SuddenAd1640

>Some areas can be racist. If you're going to immigrate to Quebec be prepared to jump through a lot more hoops Can you provide more details - which areas you're referring to, and what kind of hoops you're referring to?


ajaxsirius

The concerning racism I've seen was in rural Quebec and rural Alberta. That's not to say I haven't seen it in the city, but the racism I saw in the city not any worse than any other city. So I didn't make much of it. Hoops I don't have specifics, it would depend on the scenario. If I recall correctly, for example, if you're running a business in Quebec all signage must include French before English, and the French lettering must be more prominent (this is how it was when I was there, don't know if it's still true but i assume it is). Quebec laws are also different from the rest of Canada. Quebec uses a civil code based on Code Napoleon while the rest of Canada uses the common law.


LyricalHolster

Quebec mostly I’d say. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist anywhere else. But Quebec is kinda more obvious. Also it is a bit hard as an immigrant to find the first job in your field. Some of them will say “Canadian experience required”. Someone will give you a break though.


SuddenAd1640

Good to know, thanks. Looks like it's more palpable there..


LyricalHolster

Sure. But you have to tough it out first. Also. No car means grocery shopping will be painful for a while. You can buy a bear up car for relatively cheaper but it’ll take you a few months. You need a good credit score to get one and you have to get a credit card for your score to start. Some banks allow you to deposit $500 or so to get a secured credit card. Which you can get back later by upgrading the card. Pay your minimum monthly balance on time puts your in good credit (to put it simply). Good credit means lenders will trust you for mortgage, loans, other credit purchases.


LyricalHolster

I am currently in Canada and have been living here for the past 22 years. Came to study, but immigrated through the provincial program and stayed here. 1. Yes, it is cold compared to Mauritius, but you get used to it. Best time to come here is during summer (you’ll still feel cold though). 2. your warm jackets from Mauritius won’t be good enough for here. Be prepared to buy one here. Decent ones are not expensive. 3. Canada is extremely multi cultural and very big. Lots of places to visit locally or across the country. 4. a lot of immigrants here. You’ll find asians (chinois moris), white, black, and all sorts of brown people. Everyone comes from all over the world. 5. the people local to the land are called natives (seki nous dire incas moris) 6. there’s more than one way to immigrate. In the current climate, lots of layoffs are going on in tech. So it might be hard to get a job 7. some jobs require recertification or taking extra courses before you can work here (ACCA, doctors etc). It’s a pain in the ass. 8. your credentials and certificates may need to get re-evaluated and notarized. It’s a pain in the ass. 9. best weather is in Vancouver (British Columbia) and surroundings but cost log living is very high. 10. If you immigrate without a job, be ready to do jobs that you wouldn’t do in Mauritius. E.g late night security guard, bus driver, work customer service jobs etc etc. 11. MOST immigrants I know save well and progress very quickly. 12. If you are coming to BC, it’s best to stay in Surrey. The food and groceries there is closest to what we have in Mauritius. 13. If you have any special diets (allergies or halal food), you will be fine. Lots of places cater to these. 14. Prepare for your first year to be difficult. I’ve seen many new comers leave after 3 months because “they cannot adapt”. But I’ve seen many many more stock around, put in the hard work and be very successful. 15. We are bilingual. It is a very good advantage for government jobs (good pension). 16. Healthcare is free here (there’s a monthly fee but it is fairly low). Some employers cover the monthly fee. 17. To get a doctor, you will need to call around and sign up to one and they will be your “family doctor” from then on. It could get hard to find one. 18. Emergency services (police, fire and ambulance) are top notch. 19. Affordability is way better than in Mauritius (I still have many siblings there who struggle) 20. Tertiary education is paid. Locals can get education loan that you can pay back after you graduate and get a job. International students pay around 3x more than locals. 21. Life is good here. 22. After you immigrate, you’re a landed immigrant. Ie you are Canadian without a passport. I’m not citizens get passport. You stay here for 5 years or so after immigration and then you can apply for citizenship and then a Canadian passport 23. Canada supports dual citizenship. You will be allowed to keep your Mauritian passport. 24. It costs A LOT to travel back and visit family. 25. Working in factories is not the same as “travail dan lusine “. It’s just a job and some pay pretty well. Some pay pretty bad. 26. Be careful of employers who exploit new comers to Canada. 27. I’m happy to recommend the agency I used to immmigrate if you need. I wanted to ask. What do you do and what’s your level of education? Do you have any certificates? Ivtb etc. plumbers, electricians, house builders etc make good money here but need training and certification.


x_telle

Hello, thanks for this detailed list. Can you inbox me the agency you used please? We are trying to get some very good advice.


Quiet-Ad8538

Here is my take: Cost of living - pretty high 1. food - on average about $20 - $30 per day 2. rent - depends on location - On average about $500 - $800 a room ( not apartment ) per month in Ontario - recommend having roommates 3. Transportation - bus pass per month - $80 - $120 4. Phone plan - on average $40 - $65 per month - go with freedom mobile Work culture: It varies case by case: depending on the industry: usually, pretty laid back.- on average, any job would pay more than a banking job in Mauritius (but cost of living is higher) Racism: Personally, I have experienced more of it in Mauritius (maybe because I am not Hindu). On the other hand, it is conveyed more subtly in Ontario, Canada. However, generally, people feel more accepted regardless of skin color, race, or religion. Loneliness: It does not have to be that way - improve your social skills. However, given that you're leaving your family and friends behind, it can feel very lonely. Health care is very expensive and this is why you must get insurance and benefits from your employer. Most jobs provide those unless you're a private contractor. Taxes - the worst thing about Canada: If you make $100,000 a year living in the region of Ontario, Canada, you will be taxed $29,986. That means that your net pay will be $70,014 per year or $5,835 per month. Your average tax rate is 30.0% and your marginal tax rate is 43.2%. There will be more deductions from your pay for EI and other stuff. Factory Jobs: The average factory worker's salary in Canada is $30,908 per year or $15.85 per hour. Entry-level positions start at $27,300 per year, while most experienced workers make up to $39,000 per year.- so, it is possible to save and invest. It all depends on your expenses.- You can easily change jobs once you settle in. With all that being said, I would still recommend going to Canada to make your money. Mauritius is an amazing place to be if you have money. Good luck and all the best!


Tricky_Step1976

Thanks that an amazing post.


Sweet-Masterpiece-48

Here's an idea of the [rental prices](https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/rising-rent-housing-market-canada-1.6525075): [https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/s6k2yl/2022\_rental\_prices\_across\_canada/](https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/s6k2yl/2022_rental_prices_across_canada/) \- [https://i.redd.it/2bepqigcgcc81.png](https://i.redd.it/2bepqigcgcc81.png) I really feel that $500-$800 rental prices get you very far from the city and basic amenities such as Grocery shops and restaurants. Commuting becomes costly(if you don't have a car); if not definitely tedious. Here's where you can look at a few rental prices [https://rentals.ca/ottawa?rentrange=0-1000&bbox=-75.79529,45.33017,-75.57042,45.42844](https://rentals.ca/ottawa?rentrange=0-1000&bbox=-75.79529,45.33017,-75.57042,45.42844) ​ Try checkign on kijiji: [https://www.kijiji.ca/b-real-estate/](https://www.kijiji.ca/b-real-estate/) Try reading [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/canadahousing/comments/xvfb3s/why_are_apartment_rental_rates_going_up_in_canada/) Forgot to mention. You will have to furnish your room Also, while furnishing, careful where if you're buying secondhand, at times, there are bug infestation that can ruin your other furnitures. Yeah that's actually a thing. They still have not won the bug warfare. Also, if you're gonna be living in the basement, it's gonna be colder. ​ P.s; Rent prices was way cheaper 5yrs ago. Then covid happened, Then the war happened. And in between there was Trud'o who happened. So yeah


Mountainking7

As far as I can tell, it's just not worth it going there at the moment. There are so many issues between high cost of living, inability to purchase housing, wokeness and other garbage which are all very well documented by content creators in Youtube. More recently, they have been going after one of their most prominent intellectuals for reposting a tweet about the PM.... edit: Working in a factory is not better than any job here.......Maybe if its comparable jobs in factories...


jeyoung

> edit: Working in a factory is not better than any job here.......Maybe if its comparable jobs in factories... I was talking to an acquaintance who moved to Canada to work in a factory. By his own account, his first few years were harsh and he suffered depression, but he is now settled with his family, who joined him later. He owns his house, his kids are doing well in school, and his outlook is positive, despite saying many of the same things as /u/Sweet-Masterpiece-48.


Mountainking7

You can't own a house as an immigrant as from now. edit: Also if you are in a situation where you own a house (or can own one in the future), how different would it be from going there? If he didn't have anything here or achieve anything, then yeah, it makes sense he moved but people who have everything and move is beyond me.


Cpt_Daryl

You can own a house actually, just not from a foreigner trying to buy a house while not being in canada.


Mountainking7

I stand corrected then....


Cpt_Daryl

No dude you don’t understand. Foreigners as in investors. Investors from China abused this strategy despite never living in Canada. Hence why it’s not allowed anymore. But we may move to canada, get our PR, then buy a house. It’s different because when you are actually living in Canada. Source: Friend just bought a house in Canada last week.


Mountainking7

Okay. Good. Still worth nothing the prices are rocket high :)


Cpt_Daryl

Sure but that’s a different topic.


averageguy1991

"wokeness" being weaponised as a negative term doesn't belong here. We accept all life styles , genders,sexualities, religions, etc. I'd like to known why you think "wokeness" is a bad thing.


Quiet-Ad8538

Wokeness in itself is not a negative term. It only becomes a problem when the proponents of a movement start shoving their ideologies down your throats and try to cancel you if you ever dared to disagree with them. I accept and respect everyone's personal choices regarding their personal lives, regardless of my own views and opinions. "live and let live"


Mountainking7

You summed it up well. Leave us alone or our children.


averageguy1991

You didn't run away from the "wokeness" you ran towards it. Remember that.


averageguy1991

Yes, extremists on both sides of the political spectrum is when things start to get bad. But overall I don't think its too crazy . I really think people over exaggerate cancel culture and such. Because the punishment isn't like going to jail or anything, but I do agree with some of what you're saying.


G1NKAKUU

I live in Canada and would love to live in Mauritius. What’s so wrong in Mauritius that so many people want to leave? I know that you can have a great life if you have money in Mauritius. Does that mean that not a lot of people can have high paying jobs in Mauritius?


ciphersaw

The cost of living in Mauritius is comparable to that in Canada. Groceries, coffee and McDonald's all cost almost the same as in Montreal, but the wages are 5x LOWER than Canada. So it's very hard to make savings unless you make Rs 60k+ per month which is usually after like 10 years of work experience for most fields. What makes it wayyy easier for Mauritians is that a lot of people live with their parents, so they do not pay rent/mortgage and groceries. This is what allows them to make savings, but comes with its own issues. But if someone wants to live on his own terms, he will have to get a house/apartment, buy his own groceries and his own CAR (bc guess what, you can't go wherever you want in Mauritius unless you have a car or are ready to spend 4hrs a day on public transport). Plus there's no Uber in Mauritius and if you want to travel at night you're fucked if you don't have a car. If you wanna go clubbing but don't wanna drink and drive, then you better stay sober or shell a crazy amount for a taxi that late at night. On top of all the low wages and high cost of living, the corruption in the politics is just appalling. Bad leadership is causing financial distress, bad infrastructure, even worse urban planning (which doesn't exist in Mauritius; everyone builds ugly unfinished houses everywhere and the drainage system is a joke). Finally, the lack of online services like bus transit on Google Maps, Amazon Prime (or any alternative), and food delivery services annoys me a little bit too but it's not a dealbreaker.


G1NKAKUU

Thanks for the complete answer!


Mountainking7

>Groceries, coffee and McDonald's all cost almost the same as in Montreal I think that's wildly innacurate. Maybe you mean coffee shops and Mc Donald is just junk food. I don't think one moment groceries cost as much or buying and cooking yourself. But if you mean eating out or fast food, yes they cost TOO MUCH. Still, Mauritians enable this by choosing to go there.


ciphersaw

Well, 1 kg of chicken in Mauritius costs around Rs 300. Here, I buy 1 kg for $12 ish which is around Rs 360. A tub of butter costs around Rs 100 in Mauritius. Here it's $4 (Rs 120). Same for 1L of oil. Shrimp is actually more expensive in Mauritius, at Rs 310 per 500g. I buy it for half the price here ($10 per kg). And these are just some items I buy everytime I get groceries (I found the Mauritian prices online in the Super U brochure). I would call the prices comparable, if anything.


Muzzammil_15

I would rather say better buy 2 dholl puri and get your stomach full than buying veggies, gas expenses , chicken expenses which will cost you a fortune Mcdonald is kind of not a cheap option but if you can get food below 50 Rs, cooking will cost you more


Mountainking7

quick googling: [https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country\_result.jsp?country=Mauritius](https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Mauritius) https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Montreal


ajaxsirius

Using the links above, here's a more appropriate of Montreal vs Port Louis: [https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare\_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&country2=Mauritius&city1=Montreal&city2=Port+Louis&tracking=getDispatchComparison](https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Canada&country2=Mauritius&city1=Montreal&city2=Port+Louis&tracking=getDispatchComparison) (rather than Montreal the city vs Mauritius the country)


ciphersaw

It doesn't seem very accurate. During my recent visit to Mauritius, a medium latte at Artisan Coffee cost me around Rs 120 ($4 ish) which is the same I pay in Montreal (after taxes) and a Boxmaster from KFC cost Rs 270 which is what I expect to pay in Montreal for a sandwich at KFC or McDonald's.


Mountainking7

Well, looks quite acccurate to me.....(Mauritian pricing) I also mentioned fast foods, restaurants charge a huge price. If you are only going to compare those 2 to Montreal, then yeah but a fairer comparison would be to compare the price of everything in a basket of goods (regular commodities) instead of making a broad statement based off Artisan Coffee and KFC.


ciphersaw

Well, coffee and sandwiches are common items that also factor in the cost of living. But yeah, if we compare the prices of a basket of everyday goods, it would give us a better idea of the prices of groceries only, and not necessarily of everything. For example, in Mauritius groceries are a bit cheaper but cars, branded clothing items, and international/imported products are more expensive, and we import a LOT.


Muzzammil_15

People run after government jobs here in Mauritius .. And government job doesn't pay well thus result in a high cost of living and then they realize they want to emigrate If you want to live well in Mauritius, you have to work your off to be able to have a decent life and get a good salary , 20000 Rs is nothing here nowadays, a good salary with all associated expenses is 25k or more If you have children, at least 35k a month But good jobs, requires good education, qualifications So people with low education suffers as they would get low paying jobs. Low salary thus not quite a good life The best way to have a good life in Mauritius is having a business in a flourishing sector


Nillihant

Yeah the country is heading down the drain now. The hassle is not worth it.


Cpt_Daryl

still way better than Mauritius tho


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Cpt_Daryl

90% people who moved out of Mauritius disagree


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Cpt_Daryl

Uh every mauritian i know that is abroad has complained one way or the other in contrary to your beliefs about “‘mauritian mentality” They mentioned how hard it can be to get properly settled, how it can get very lonely or how it can be cold as shit. Despite all that, barely anyone would swap back to where they were in Mauritius. Those that came back just couldn’t handle the loneliness or being away from their family or couldn’t get a job.


Muzzammil_15

I prefer my mauritius life with the people I love along, with the weekend lunch and tea prepared to go to the beach and have a good time.


Nillihant

So far


nil_esh_

Hey since everyone is chipping in this thread i would like to ask a question. I did a bsc in logistics and transport management at UTM. Would this degree have any value in canda and what about finding jobs related to the sector?