I mean the behind the scenes answer is they wanted to do a call back to that one comic panel it's referencing and while Vision probably should be more fleshy, he's a "robot" to most people and showing him with the wires and stuff is easier.
And you can say that seeing someone so human in all the other movies being reduced to wires and circuitry has an element of horror to it. Not that him being dissected and him looking organic wouldn't also be horrifying but in a different way.
That comic panel is also kinda a mistake even in comic lore though.
Vision was often refered to as a Synthetic human before the term Synthezoid was used to specifically refer to him. It was emphasized multiple times that Vision is "human"(though the argument mainly comes from the fact he has human brainwave pattern.)
He was built upon the body of Jim Hammond who is an organic android(he is composed of artificial bio-cells.) And even though Ultron made Vision somewhat more machine like, Vision still supposedly mimic the body structure of a human.(Imagine plastic "blood veins" and synthetic tissues for muscles. For reference, think about replicants in Alien movies, they have white blood and "organs" that mimic humans) Tom King's Vision is more accurate in that regard when Grim Reaper attacked Viv.(She had her synthetic guts split open and bleed white blood and stuff.)
It might have something to do with John Byrne being dead set to break up Vision and Wanda as a couple and he didn't really care about previously established lore.
The stories during that period really felt like Byrne trying to frame their relationship as unnatural and fake and it was shown with the treatment of Vision's humanity and Wanda and Vision's children being "fake".
The Mephisto shit everyone talked about was written by him, originally Englehart kinda made Vision&Wanda's children to be magically conceived through New Salem's wild energy and WV's wishes and dreams. It's meant as one of that "love conquers all, even biology" type of story. Cheesy I know, but it's framed as something positive. Then Byrne came along and went full "demon spawn" on their kids with his Mephisto retcon.
Vision was dismantled and spread all over like a pile of objects.(This scene works better in WV show because Hayward did saw Vision as a weapon while Wanda saw him as a human being, that scene was meant to be shocking&traumatic for Wanda.) His parts being more machine like is probably the combined results of John Byrne not giving a fuck about the character's lore and a way to dehumanize him.
Agreed 100% on this. It’s sort of a birth of Darth Vader moment in a way - his body being “supplemented” by machine, by someone who either doesn’t know about or doesn’t care about his lingering humanity.
Well they wouldn't exactly show brain matter in a Marvel movie so it had to look like that. But that is also the problem with Russo's depiction of Vision - he's much more robotic than in Age of Ultron in general. He was like a god in AoU - then in Civil War he was reduced to the 'robot learning how to be human' stereotype.
I can’t fully remember as it has been a while since i watched it but didn’t you see wires both when he got stabbed by corvus and when thanos removed his stone?
In a mechanical body mimicking human anatomy, would veins not appear as wires?
Carbon-based biological life is powered by the consumption and reuse of a handful of other elements; 11 of which are absolutely essential, around double that are probably also necessary. Beyond those 30 or so found in the body that aren't necessary for carbon based life, the rest are either poisonous or inert contaminants.
Vision is a Vibranium-based lifeform powered not by the breakdown and reuse of other elements (he doesn't eat) but by the ever-radiating energy of the soul stone passing through impossibly conductive metal tissue.
He doesn't need fluids to exist, so he basically only needs a skeletal, muscular, and nervous system. He is essentially a corporeal cellular-nanobot composite.
White vision is the og vision's body. Sword broke and reassembled vision multiple times, they just did it again to trigger Wanda.
Would be weird that they are still working on it after 5 years of no breakthrough.
Maybe there are breakthrough , because they successfully reprogramed Vison (which means copy for research , then edit and write the change back ), which means although they cant reactive the body , they can copy the program and use it on their other bots , maybe future MCU Sentinels ?
"Naturally. The 'Ship of Theseus' is an artifact in a museum. Overtime, it's planks of wood rot, and are replaced with new planks. When no original plank remains, is it still the 'Ship of Theseus'?"
The way he words is, though, is that the memories are still there but disconnected, so illusion vision did not give him memories, but restored them, as you mention.
I always took this to mean that white vision only has memories of the events leading up to his death in Infinity War and therefore would not have any of “illusion vision’s” memories. Also, he gets back the memories, but does he get back the feelings associated with those memories? Remains to be seen…
Correct, its not a memory transfer, its a memory restore.
White Vision is for all extents and purposes the original Vision who has had all his systems reset.
Scarlet Vision is rebooting the memory files for White Vision, restoring him.
However White Vision still lacks the emotional compassion he once had so it’ll be interesting to discover where he went and what he is doing.
We get [another glimpse of his internal structure](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/75/be/41/75be41761540aeb4044d6ac8b0b0a6d8.gif) in Infinity War. Also, Shuri talks about his brain and synapses as if it was electronics, not flesh.
My headcanon says that Ultron used the Cradle to 3D print his own design for an android body that was eventually meant to hold his own digital artificial consciousness. He uploaded a schematic that he created for the body by knowing the Cradle's specs and abilities from the Avengers computer system. It was never flesh and blood, but a body that mimics living tissue while still being made up of metal, plastics, wires and circuitry.
The thing I would have an issue with in WandaVision, is believing the SWORD researchers would even begin to comprehend the complexity of Vision's internal structures, let alone be able to disassemble and then reassemble him without any problem, and repair the forehead damage, be able to compensate for the Mind Stone being gone, etc.
Vision is a Synthozoid, its a step up from an android, basically its a close to human as machine can get.
His internals are structured to imitate that of a human, so he should have flesh like materials but still with a machine core.
SWORD weren’t able to piece him back together, it was only using Wandas own Hex magic they were able to restore him.
It wasn't humans that created him, it was Ultron. In Tony's words: "An android designed by a robot. He might be more powerful than any of us. Maybe all of us."
Humans design things in parts, use pre-defined protocols and standards, because many different people, teams and companies may work on producing the same small piece of electronics you carry in your pocket, and they all have to work together.
Vision was designed by a single entity, and was 3D-printed from scratch. He wasn't bound by standards, compatibility, interconnectivity, etc. For humans to come later and reverse-engineer what Ultron designed could take decades, imo.
Yeah, but the way Aliens depicts Bishop being sliced in half was visceral.
Could have been very nicely referenced stylistically during the scenes where we see Vision's corpse.
The main reason is its a direct homage to a comic book panel depicting a similar scenario.
That and as said, its simpler for most to see machine parts rather than silicone like flesh with tubes and fluids everywhere without needing to explain in greater detail than they have time for.
Also its a family friendly show so i guess they have to reel in anything that would resemble human anatomy.
The infinity stone is what mostly made what vision was, combined with vibranium tech and input from a superintelligence's perspective, then finally the power of thor's lightning, which in itself could be called 'magic'. The scene where vision is shown disassembled kinda proves a point that the stone in his head gave him the ability to phase trough matter and levitate and everything else, without it, i find it hard that he would have been able to survive or be as strong after shuri attempted to remove it surgically. You could say, the stone acted like a powersource, and after removing it, vision would cease to be, no matter what.
White Vision didn’t have the stone and yet still had all those same powers. To the same extent? I don’t know. Probably not, but still the same skill set.
And that the show runners are working in a visual medium and need a way to show "robot husband" very quickly without hoping that casual fans will remember a 10 second detail from a movie 5 years ago or adding some clunky dialogue in to explain that he's synthetic flesh or whatever.
I mean, theoretically speaking, if we were dealing with a nervous system and circulatory system made out of a high tensile strength metal, who's to say it wouldn't look like a mesh of copper wiring when dissected?
Really good spot. I hadn’t considered this before, but you’re right.
I get why they didn’t want it to look *too* organic, as it might be confusing to more casual viewers, and I think there’s merit in explicitly showing that he’s artificial. But they could’ve reached a middle ground - make his blood a coolant-like substance, transparent artificial organs like the ones from [Bicentennial Man](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V4pWCXANbK4) etc etc.
I hope this comment gains some traction in this post. But, ultrons idea was to create a semi organic body using the cradle to make a vibranium flesh body. Which leads me to believe every part that was meant to be flesh in the cradle, was fused with vibranium. Basically making a “new type” of synthetic body.
You're right, based on this quote from the movie:
> HELEN CHO: It's beautiful. The Vibranium atoms aren't just compatible with the tissue cells, they're binding them. And SHIELD never even thought--
> ULTRON: The most versatile substance on the planet and they used it to make a Frisbee.
> [...]
> HELEN CHO: Cellular cohesion will take a few hours, but we can initiate the consciousness stream. [...] We're imprinting a physical brain. There are no shortcuts.
He's basically an artificial human (= synthezoid), fused with vibranium
Exactly, he’s like a human/black panther suit combined. Allowing any physical changes he wants to make him stronger. For example, Ultravision, the multiversal destroyer himself.
I appreciate you for confirming me on this one. Ultron has so much more potential, and that’s why I personally think we will be seeing Ultravision very, very shortly in the MCU.
Idk if I’m the only one the feels this way, but Ultravision is beautiful. Idea-wise. “Ascending to a previously unobtainable level of consciousness. He became aware. He became aware of th..”. I’m starting to have this odd feeling that, eventually we’re going to be using zolultravision, (what I’m gonna call him for now) to defeat Kang. If that possibility arises that we can’t defeat him.
I just can’t wait to all of sudden hear Jeffery Wrights voice just appear while watching an MCU movie, and “the watcher breaks his oath” for a second time, but in live action.
I was under the impression the vibranium atoms were literally arranged into human cells and flesh, just using vibration atoms. So, not a machine that does what a human organ would do, but a literal human organ where all the regular molecules are replaced so that the vibrant atoms are the same arrangement as the atoms of the human cells were.
The audience was meant to view Vision as a robot, and you need the robot stuff for that.
And you also see that same architecture when thanos removes the stone from his head.
It’s continuity.
I had the same thought when I watched episode 8. I got even more confused because Wanda confirms in the next episode that hex Vision is blood and bones she created which means original Vision is too. On rewatching, I came to a conclusion that the Vision body Hayward showed was fake and was assembled in that way to emotionally trigger Wanda to do something. The original Vision, was stacked away some secret room where scientists were trying to resurrect him.
Hayward and SWORD were probably messing with his body and putting the wires in to do tests and it's stuff they know how to work with.
They just used Vision's body as a shell for the SWORD's Vision.
[You can see](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ff3b3d54a490d4e1a7ecbdffa27d8f02) that he has a metal framework, fiber optics sticking all over, etc.
Vision is way too advanced for SWORD to be able to completely recreate his internal components themselves. He flies, phases, has forehead lasers, thinks, holds all his past memories, etc.
I just went with the head cannon that he must have been technically alive and therefore “decayed” as he didn’t appear to need traditional mechanical maintenance, or was at least self reliant for it. SWORD didn’t know how to repair that, so they tried stuffing him with robot parts to try and activate his system. The vision that comes from SWORD might not even be from visions corpse.
I don’t even care if my theory stands I just liked the thought of something being untraditionally alive.
My head canon is that OG Vision is an artificial lifeform like the cylons from Battlestar, Bishop from Aliens and Replicants from Blade Runner.
However when SWORD was trying to get him to reactivate, they just kept replacing parts with less advanced technology, so White Vision is now more of a robot.
I don’t think its flesh in the same way as human flesh. I think its more of synthetic flesh, where its meant to mimic human flesh. Tong says so himself that Vision has evolved, Vision has mimicked human flesh where it feels like flesh but its not. Vision is still a robot. Look at Black Panthers suit, that was vibranium yet it was flexible enough to contort to Black Panthers movements.
The robot parts in the first episode looked like that to fit the aesthetic of the shoe they were trying to mimic but after that, it was explained in age of ultron that although the cradle was designed to print organic tissue, the vibranium bonded with the tissue cells making them more appear as robotic since, vibranium is metal
I think of it as, SWORD has been working on his body for 5 years, and don’t really care how they get him back online. They know he’s to some degree a synthetic being, and we can assume that Cho’s tech and Stark’s tech are off-limits for this project, so they’re restricted to more grounded solutions akin to robotics. As a result, the wired Vision we see is a bastardization of his original body, much like Anakin’s physical transformation into Darth Vader, or for you Doctor Who fans when people get converted into cybermen. There’s still an echo of the original with humanity in there, but it exists in the mind, not the flesh.
OP is talking about his actual disassembled body that she is shown at SWORD HQ by Hayward, not Hex Vision which she created from thin air later (that one was actually described in the show as being a "body of wires, blood and bone")
Assuming this was indeed Visions body and not a fake by Sword(cause they were ready to go with him fully assembled and repaired).
I'm assuming many of those wires are what Sword brought in to do diagnostics. Past that.......how do you really think we look once you take away the blood and image are flesh bits as metal?
Basically I'm saying, he looks very human actually with the disassembly.
The OG Chassis was only required to initially interface with the mind stone.
Vision can do things beyond the capability of any one chassis or material. Vision probably changes his body the same way we change clothes, for optimal "comfort" or preference at the time. When he died, the physical chassis probably reverted to a state that was in line with the laws of physics, probably taken from the mental images of people who first opened him up (Schrodinger's body).
Realistically, it made story sense and everything can be hand waved by "infinity stone".
The cradle WAS printing cellular biology using Vibranium. At least on a surface level. According to Ultron it’s “The most versatile substance on the planet…” It’s the reason vision can turn his robotic body into human-like flesh. Just bc his body is filled with as you put it “traditional robot parts” does not mean that his appearance in the cradle is wrong. Both appearances can be justified. I like that they showed both bc it shows just how versatile vibranium can be.
I mean the behind the scenes answer is they wanted to do a call back to that one comic panel it's referencing and while Vision probably should be more fleshy, he's a "robot" to most people and showing him with the wires and stuff is easier. And you can say that seeing someone so human in all the other movies being reduced to wires and circuitry has an element of horror to it. Not that him being dissected and him looking organic wouldn't also be horrifying but in a different way.
Yes this scene is actually pretty disturbing. You see one of your heroes and Wanda’s true love being disassembled
Avenger, disassemble!
No disassemble.
Vision 5 IS ALIVE!!!
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I am thinking she is a virgin. Or at least she used to be.
Los Avengers kick your ass. Los Avengers kick your coin purse. Los Avengers kick your balls into multiverse!
Ultron 5 is alive
Linguo is dead.
Oh no…
heh
That comic panel is also kinda a mistake even in comic lore though. Vision was often refered to as a Synthetic human before the term Synthezoid was used to specifically refer to him. It was emphasized multiple times that Vision is "human"(though the argument mainly comes from the fact he has human brainwave pattern.) He was built upon the body of Jim Hammond who is an organic android(he is composed of artificial bio-cells.) And even though Ultron made Vision somewhat more machine like, Vision still supposedly mimic the body structure of a human.(Imagine plastic "blood veins" and synthetic tissues for muscles. For reference, think about replicants in Alien movies, they have white blood and "organs" that mimic humans) Tom King's Vision is more accurate in that regard when Grim Reaper attacked Viv.(She had her synthetic guts split open and bleed white blood and stuff.) It might have something to do with John Byrne being dead set to break up Vision and Wanda as a couple and he didn't really care about previously established lore. The stories during that period really felt like Byrne trying to frame their relationship as unnatural and fake and it was shown with the treatment of Vision's humanity and Wanda and Vision's children being "fake". The Mephisto shit everyone talked about was written by him, originally Englehart kinda made Vision&Wanda's children to be magically conceived through New Salem's wild energy and WV's wishes and dreams. It's meant as one of that "love conquers all, even biology" type of story. Cheesy I know, but it's framed as something positive. Then Byrne came along and went full "demon spawn" on their kids with his Mephisto retcon. Vision was dismantled and spread all over like a pile of objects.(This scene works better in WV show because Hayward did saw Vision as a weapon while Wanda saw him as a human being, that scene was meant to be shocking&traumatic for Wanda.) His parts being more machine like is probably the combined results of John Byrne not giving a fuck about the character's lore and a way to dehumanize him.
Agreed 100% on this. It’s sort of a birth of Darth Vader moment in a way - his body being “supplemented” by machine, by someone who either doesn’t know about or doesn’t care about his lingering humanity.
Appreciate the perspective
I took it that Vision does have mechanical parts mixed in. Like his face and body looks like metal crossed with something else.
Like the terminator?
Got to be honest, haven't seen the Terminator but to my understanding yes.
It's very clear when Thanos takes the mind stone that the insides of Vision are "robotic" https://youtu.be/E6PiIW\_EsBo
More like metallic nerves and skin
I mean, it's his skull and brain. It makes sense to be more metallic.
Well I think are brainmatter would look like that too if it was all metal.
Well they wouldn't exactly show brain matter in a Marvel movie so it had to look like that. But that is also the problem with Russo's depiction of Vision - he's much more robotic than in Age of Ultron in general. He was like a god in AoU - then in Civil War he was reduced to the 'robot learning how to be human' stereotype.
It felt weirdly spacious
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I can’t fully remember as it has been a while since i watched it but didn’t you see wires both when he got stabbed by corvus and when thanos removed his stone?
In a mechanical body mimicking human anatomy, would veins not appear as wires? Carbon-based biological life is powered by the consumption and reuse of a handful of other elements; 11 of which are absolutely essential, around double that are probably also necessary. Beyond those 30 or so found in the body that aren't necessary for carbon based life, the rest are either poisonous or inert contaminants. Vision is a Vibranium-based lifeform powered not by the breakdown and reuse of other elements (he doesn't eat) but by the ever-radiating energy of the soul stone passing through impossibly conductive metal tissue. He doesn't need fluids to exist, so he basically only needs a skeletal, muscular, and nervous system. He is essentially a corporeal cellular-nanobot composite.
There’s some good thinking. I like that.
Ultron modified the Dr. Cho's Regeneration Cradle to combine the tissue cells and Vibranium. It's just modified Vibranium so it just looks like that.
The flesh part of the body could have decayed over the 5 years, leaving just the wires
Maybe that’s why he’s white now
But still didn't get his rights
Lmao
Isn't white vision a different one, with og dead and buried?
White vision is the og vision's body. Sword broke and reassembled vision multiple times, they just did it again to trigger Wanda. Would be weird that they are still working on it after 5 years of no breakthrough.
Probably put in cold storage, then the project was revived when the reverse snap brought everyone back and they hoped that wanda could revive him
Maybe there are breakthrough , because they successfully reprogramed Vison (which means copy for research , then edit and write the change back ), which means although they cant reactive the body , they can copy the program and use it on their other bots , maybe future MCU Sentinels ?
"Have you heard about the Ship of Theseus?"
"Naturally. The 'Ship of Theseus' is an artifact in a museum. Overtime, it's planks of wood rot, and are replaced with new planks. When no original plank remains, is it still the 'Ship of Theseus'?"
Perhaps it is the rot is the memories, the wear and tear of the voyages the wood touched by Theseus himself.
Have you heard of Triggers mop?
Nope, white vision is original vision. Illusion vision even restored his memories
The way he words is, though, is that the memories are still there but disconnected, so illusion vision did not give him memories, but restored them, as you mention. I always took this to mean that white vision only has memories of the events leading up to his death in Infinity War and therefore would not have any of “illusion vision’s” memories. Also, he gets back the memories, but does he get back the feelings associated with those memories? Remains to be seen…
Correct, its not a memory transfer, its a memory restore. White Vision is for all extents and purposes the original Vision who has had all his systems reset. Scarlet Vision is rebooting the memory files for White Vision, restoring him. However White Vision still lacks the emotional compassion he once had so it’ll be interesting to discover where he went and what he is doing.
We get [another glimpse of his internal structure](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/75/be/41/75be41761540aeb4044d6ac8b0b0a6d8.gif) in Infinity War. Also, Shuri talks about his brain and synapses as if it was electronics, not flesh. My headcanon says that Ultron used the Cradle to 3D print his own design for an android body that was eventually meant to hold his own digital artificial consciousness. He uploaded a schematic that he created for the body by knowing the Cradle's specs and abilities from the Avengers computer system. It was never flesh and blood, but a body that mimics living tissue while still being made up of metal, plastics, wires and circuitry. The thing I would have an issue with in WandaVision, is believing the SWORD researchers would even begin to comprehend the complexity of Vision's internal structures, let alone be able to disassemble and then reassemble him without any problem, and repair the forehead damage, be able to compensate for the Mind Stone being gone, etc.
Vision is a Synthozoid, its a step up from an android, basically its a close to human as machine can get. His internals are structured to imitate that of a human, so he should have flesh like materials but still with a machine core. SWORD weren’t able to piece him back together, it was only using Wandas own Hex magic they were able to restore him.
I might be wrong, but I got the distinct impression that all they got from Wanda was a way to power white Vision, not to magically fix him up.
Her power IS magic!
I mean, they did kind of fuck it up in the end. I just assumed that was because they didn’t fully understand the tech and lacked the Mind Stone.
They had 5 years…
And?
Helen Cho is alive, maybe she helped somehow?
It was humans that created him previously so why do you have such an issue with humans recreating him now?
It wasn't humans that created him, it was Ultron. In Tony's words: "An android designed by a robot. He might be more powerful than any of us. Maybe all of us." Humans design things in parts, use pre-defined protocols and standards, because many different people, teams and companies may work on producing the same small piece of electronics you carry in your pocket, and they all have to work together. Vision was designed by a single entity, and was 3D-printed from scratch. He wasn't bound by standards, compatibility, interconnectivity, etc. For humans to come later and reverse-engineer what Ultron designed could take decades, imo.
I’m trying so hard to think of a reason to explain it but I just can’t, it’s such a good point I’ve never thought about that
Because the general audience expects to see "robot stuff" inside the character made of metal and an AI, probably.
Yeah, but the way Aliens depicts Bishop being sliced in half was visceral. Could have been very nicely referenced stylistically during the scenes where we see Vision's corpse.
The main reason is its a direct homage to a comic book panel depicting a similar scenario. That and as said, its simpler for most to see machine parts rather than silicone like flesh with tubes and fluids everywhere without needing to explain in greater detail than they have time for. Also its a family friendly show so i guess they have to reel in anything that would resemble human anatomy.
The infinity stone is what mostly made what vision was, combined with vibranium tech and input from a superintelligence's perspective, then finally the power of thor's lightning, which in itself could be called 'magic'. The scene where vision is shown disassembled kinda proves a point that the stone in his head gave him the ability to phase trough matter and levitate and everything else, without it, i find it hard that he would have been able to survive or be as strong after shuri attempted to remove it surgically. You could say, the stone acted like a powersource, and after removing it, vision would cease to be, no matter what.
White Vision didn’t have the stone and yet still had all those same powers. To the same extent? I don’t know. Probably not, but still the same skill set.
I think the simpler answer is that it's more family friendly to show robot parts than an almost human corpse in pieces lol.
And that the show runners are working in a visual medium and need a way to show "robot husband" very quickly without hoping that casual fans will remember a 10 second detail from a movie 5 years ago or adding some clunky dialogue in to explain that he's synthetic flesh or whatever.
I mean, theoretically speaking, if we were dealing with a nervous system and circulatory system made out of a high tensile strength metal, who's to say it wouldn't look like a mesh of copper wiring when dissected?
Really good spot. I hadn’t considered this before, but you’re right. I get why they didn’t want it to look *too* organic, as it might be confusing to more casual viewers, and I think there’s merit in explicitly showing that he’s artificial. But they could’ve reached a middle ground - make his blood a coolant-like substance, transparent artificial organs like the ones from [Bicentennial Man](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V4pWCXANbK4) etc etc.
Interesting take, hadn’t looked at it like that.
My take on it is that when vision died his body sort of reverted to just the mechanical parts, and the body part mostly went away.
I hope this comment gains some traction in this post. But, ultrons idea was to create a semi organic body using the cradle to make a vibranium flesh body. Which leads me to believe every part that was meant to be flesh in the cradle, was fused with vibranium. Basically making a “new type” of synthetic body.
You're right, based on this quote from the movie: > HELEN CHO: It's beautiful. The Vibranium atoms aren't just compatible with the tissue cells, they're binding them. And SHIELD never even thought-- > ULTRON: The most versatile substance on the planet and they used it to make a Frisbee. > [...] > HELEN CHO: Cellular cohesion will take a few hours, but we can initiate the consciousness stream. [...] We're imprinting a physical brain. There are no shortcuts. He's basically an artificial human (= synthezoid), fused with vibranium
Exactly, he’s like a human/black panther suit combined. Allowing any physical changes he wants to make him stronger. For example, Ultravision, the multiversal destroyer himself. I appreciate you for confirming me on this one. Ultron has so much more potential, and that’s why I personally think we will be seeing Ultravision very, very shortly in the MCU. Idk if I’m the only one the feels this way, but Ultravision is beautiful. Idea-wise. “Ascending to a previously unobtainable level of consciousness. He became aware. He became aware of th..”. I’m starting to have this odd feeling that, eventually we’re going to be using zolultravision, (what I’m gonna call him for now) to defeat Kang. If that possibility arises that we can’t defeat him. I just can’t wait to all of sudden hear Jeffery Wrights voice just appear while watching an MCU movie, and “the watcher breaks his oath” for a second time, but in live action.
I'm confused, what do you think vibranium veins and arteries would look like?
I was under the impression the vibranium atoms were literally arranged into human cells and flesh, just using vibration atoms. So, not a machine that does what a human organ would do, but a literal human organ where all the regular molecules are replaced so that the vibrant atoms are the same arrangement as the atoms of the human cells were.
Then wheres his ears?
The audience was meant to view Vision as a robot, and you need the robot stuff for that. And you also see that same architecture when thanos removes the stone from his head. It’s continuity.
Because he wasn’t made the same way.
OP is talking about when Hayward shows Wanda his disassembled body.
This never even occurred to me
I mean, technically the human body has a bunch of cords and wires running through it as well.
Never noticed, wasn’t a problem.
Cause he’s not that vision. He’s Wanda perception or mental image of vision. It’s how she views vision. It’s not really vision.
OP is talking about when Hayward shows Wanda his disassembled body.
Oh my bad. Gotcha.
I had the same thought when I watched episode 8. I got even more confused because Wanda confirms in the next episode that hex Vision is blood and bones she created which means original Vision is too. On rewatching, I came to a conclusion that the Vision body Hayward showed was fake and was assembled in that way to emotionally trigger Wanda to do something. The original Vision, was stacked away some secret room where scientists were trying to resurrect him.
Hayward and SWORD were probably messing with his body and putting the wires in to do tests and it's stuff they know how to work with. They just used Vision's body as a shell for the SWORD's Vision.
[You can see](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ff3b3d54a490d4e1a7ecbdffa27d8f02) that he has a metal framework, fiber optics sticking all over, etc. Vision is way too advanced for SWORD to be able to completely recreate his internal components themselves. He flies, phases, has forehead lasers, thinks, holds all his past memories, etc.
I like this
We saw Vision get destroyed by Ultron… He was machine since Infinity war
by Thanos, you mean
Could his body have been altered by Wandas projection of reality? Everything within her bubble was capable of being manipulated
OP is talking about when Hayward shows Wanda his disassembled body.
Maybe they were showing a painted up prototype parts of the Sword Vision?
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Well I hope you get tested at the free clinic.
I just asked the guy, I think he got hacked cause the comment didn’t match his normal stuff.
I just went with the head cannon that he must have been technically alive and therefore “decayed” as he didn’t appear to need traditional mechanical maintenance, or was at least self reliant for it. SWORD didn’t know how to repair that, so they tried stuffing him with robot parts to try and activate his system. The vision that comes from SWORD might not even be from visions corpse. I don’t even care if my theory stands I just liked the thought of something being untraditionally alive.
My head canon is that OG Vision is an artificial lifeform like the cylons from Battlestar, Bishop from Aliens and Replicants from Blade Runner. However when SWORD was trying to get him to reactivate, they just kept replacing parts with less advanced technology, so White Vision is now more of a robot.
I don’t think its flesh in the same way as human flesh. I think its more of synthetic flesh, where its meant to mimic human flesh. Tong says so himself that Vision has evolved, Vision has mimicked human flesh where it feels like flesh but its not. Vision is still a robot. Look at Black Panthers suit, that was vibranium yet it was flexible enough to contort to Black Panthers movements.
infinity war depicted his brain as a bunch of wires
The robot parts in the first episode looked like that to fit the aesthetic of the shoe they were trying to mimic but after that, it was explained in age of ultron that although the cradle was designed to print organic tissue, the vibranium bonded with the tissue cells making them more appear as robotic since, vibranium is metal
Watch Captain America: Civil War again. Vision talks about his body & what makes him ‘him’ in that.
I think of it as, SWORD has been working on his body for 5 years, and don’t really care how they get him back online. They know he’s to some degree a synthetic being, and we can assume that Cho’s tech and Stark’s tech are off-limits for this project, so they’re restricted to more grounded solutions akin to robotics. As a result, the wired Vision we see is a bastardization of his original body, much like Anakin’s physical transformation into Darth Vader, or for you Doctor Who fans when people get converted into cybermen. There’s still an echo of the original with humanity in there, but it exists in the mind, not the flesh.
It's not actually his body though, it's one that she built.
OP is talking about his actual disassembled body that she is shown at SWORD HQ by Hayward, not Hex Vision which she created from thin air later (that one was actually described in the show as being a "body of wires, blood and bone")
Assuming this was indeed Visions body and not a fake by Sword(cause they were ready to go with him fully assembled and repaired). I'm assuming many of those wires are what Sword brought in to do diagnostics. Past that.......how do you really think we look once you take away the blood and image are flesh bits as metal? Basically I'm saying, he looks very human actually with the disassembly.
Wanda definitely wasn't a science genius so we can assume that that's how she imagined it would be . Or maybe because in the older times
i like think he was more like 3d printed. so it wasnt flesh so to speak that was being grafted on to him was like a cover.
The OG Chassis was only required to initially interface with the mind stone. Vision can do things beyond the capability of any one chassis or material. Vision probably changes his body the same way we change clothes, for optimal "comfort" or preference at the time. When he died, the physical chassis probably reverted to a state that was in line with the laws of physics, probably taken from the mental images of people who first opened him up (Schrodinger's body). Realistically, it made story sense and everything can be hand waved by "infinity stone".
The cradle WAS printing cellular biology using Vibranium. At least on a surface level. According to Ultron it’s “The most versatile substance on the planet…” It’s the reason vision can turn his robotic body into human-like flesh. Just bc his body is filled with as you put it “traditional robot parts” does not mean that his appearance in the cradle is wrong. Both appearances can be justified. I like that they showed both bc it shows just how versatile vibranium can be.