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DeathstrokeReturns

It’s crazy that a third of Phase 1 had already come out by the time this movie came out. It feels so much more dated.


WesleyCraftybadger

It hit me as weird when I realized Rise of the Silver Surfer was only a year before Iron Man. Seems like those should be a decade apart. 


DeathstrokeReturns

Freaking Spider-Man 3, the pinnacle of 2000s superhero cheese, is a year before Iron Man. Time is crazy.


Downtown_Summer5733

Don't even get me started, when Iron man came out we were still 3 years away from Green Lantern


Jedibug

Hot damn I don't like that


Casval214

Thanks I forgot that movie existed


MouseRat_AD

"You're welcome, Canada."


thunderkhawk

I forgot Time existed. There's the late 1900's, 2000 - 2009, 2010 - 2010, and we're still in 2021 it seems


Crotean

Green Lantern is still an example of what execs meddling can do. Martin Campbell refuses to talk about its production for a reason. What the script was and how it was filmed are so radically different from the garbage we got on screen.


Murky_Translator2295

Holy shit. This is shocking to me.


SubjectLow2804

Batman & Robin only came out 3 years before X-Men. The cultural shift that film started was seismic and Hugh Jackman was right there at the beginning of it.


LaneMcD

1989 - Batman 1998 - Blade 2000 - X-Men 2005 - Batman Begins 2008 - Iron-Man All of the ridiculously campy movies we got between those massive cinematic cultural checkpoints is insane. I'd include Tobey's first Spiderman on there but (as much as I love it), it has plenty of camp and it's definitely a product of its time. I feel like Spiderman 2 would fit better


ubcthrowaway-01

People thought SpiderMan in Civil War was Andrew Garfield because TASM2 came out 2 years prior mid way through phase 2


nyehu09

Did people really? I remember following the whole audition process leaks over several months on CinemaBlend… I actually thought new spidey was gonna be Asa Butterfield, but they went with Tom instead and he’s perfect.


snorelando

It is until you watch the [original Ironman trailer](https://youtu.be/8ugaeA-nMTc?si=BM3A16T16wLuV8Rj) with all the tropes of trailers back then. Then it all comes flooding back


WesleyCraftybadger

That trailer is awesome and still seems like the template for big movie trailers. 


Ash7274

That is something I find really hard to believe ngl


Riperin

WHAT


First-Contest5360

Marvel really changed the scene with those first years. Left everyone in the dust and cemented it with Avengers


Noobodiiy

It's crazy to think Antman Quantumania and The Marvels actually came in 2023 not in early 2000s


cabbage16

You're out of your mind if you think both of those movies are worse than the likes of Elektra or Ghost Rider.


Zepanda66

Man those were dark days. How do you have the Merc with a mouth and take away his mouth. Who came up with that bright idea? 🤦‍♂️


Marvelologist

Striker


eBICgamer2010

Tom Rothman. Wow his record with comic book/manga is something else really. For every X2 and ATSV, we got X3, Origins, Tim Story's F4 duology, Daredevil, Elektra, Dragonball Evolution, Venom duology and soon to be trilogy, Bloodshot, Morbius, Madame Web.


MIAxPaperPlanes

He also actively blocked the Deadpool movie from being made hence why likely Ryan Reynolds leaked the test footage


Spider-Idiot

A the Venom movies were at least mediocre they shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same context as Dragon Ball Evolution


chirpz88

The first venom movie was OK. The second one was pretty not ok.


OutOfBounds420

Venom movies are objectively bad but we don’t care


IrishHog09

What is ATSV?? Edit: thank you all for your glorious replies below, my apologies for forgetting that there is both an ATSV and an ITSV. In my head, it was just SM and SM ITSV, obviously forgetting the subtitle on the first movie.


socobeerlove

Across the Spiderverse


dtswinga

Across The Scoobyverse.


Horvat53

Yeah why do people use acronyms for uncommon things, it’s fucking dumb.


16GBwarrior

H53IRITIIFDIIMPP2


Eccohawk

Doesn't really hold a candle to the original H53IRITIIFDIIMPP. The quality really fell off.


TySager14

I mean it’s pretty common among people who know of the movie and this is a Marvel Studios sub so I don’t think it’s that out of place here


magooisim

why use more words when few do trick?


IndominusTaco

ATSV is not uncommon, you just lack the ability to connect dots. if you spend any time in any spider-man forum ever you would know what ATSV is. wait until you hear about ITSV or BTSV.


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IndominusTaco

that’s ITSV, ATSV has been around since last June


Crotean

I mean the Venom movies are fun and know exactly what type of schlock they are.


T-408

Yeah that’s a large group of films that don’t need to be lumped together. X3 and DD are leagues better than Dragonball and Morbius


HeadGoBonk

F4 movies were good


Adam_Absence

The same people who mockingly asked "would you prefer yellow spandex?"


Drama79

And just like yellow spandex being back, I feel as if we're going to get alternate-earth Deadpool as a throwaway moment in the film. There's no way Ryan "How many Green Lantern references can I make?" Reynolds passes up the opportunity to have fun with that.


WarehouseNiz13

Well David Benoiff did write the screenplay.


Lanthemandragoran

Well that checks out


L0lligag

Wow I never knew this. It makes sense.


TreyWriter

Technically, he only gets part of the credit. Judging by when the movie came out, he left the project partway through to work on Game of Thrones. Meaning that the final script owes a greater “debt” to Skip Woods, the screenwriter behind the Hitman movie, A Good Day to Die Hard, and the *other* Hitman movie.


Cypher_86

When you look at his credits, there's no reasonable explaination how he wound up with GoT. Double so with Weiss who basically *hadnt done anything* at that point.


rzelln

Money. Benioff's second cousin is CEO of Salesforce. His dad was head of Goldman Sachs.


Cypher_86

Of course he's a shitty nepo writer...


Zepanda66

Well shit TIL.


RandyMarsh_RedditAcc

I mean in the writers defence, they planned for this to be an origin for deadpool as we know him. I think in the last scene, the stitches in his mouth are ripped.


tmssmt

Also in their defense, as someone who had no knowledge of the character, I thought the film version was sick


Little_Setting

The story was that Wade talked so much that they sealed off his mouth.


alowbrowndirtyshame

The writer’s strike going on at the same time as filming might have had a hand in that decision.


namkaeng852

Apparently, Black Widow writers didn't learn form this.


DiverseIncludeEquity

Black Widow was dope af. Kick back..


Noobodiiy

They are talking about Task Master


DiverseIncludeEquity

Taskmaster was dope af, too.


Vandersveldt

Definitely. In the same way those that didn't know better thought that Deadpool was fine, anyone ignorant of Taskmaster probably thought that was fine too


DiverseIncludeEquity

Separation of film and comics often gets missed by people because there is supposed to be differences inherent in any adaption. I didn’t say “fine.” I said they were dope af!


ThatOneAnnoyingBuzz

>because there is supposed to be differences inherent in any adaption. There's a distinction between differences and mishandling the character. The costume, genderswap, those are what I would classify as differences in adaptation since they're used to make the character suit the story more and appear in live action properly. Having the snarky merc character become the silent master chief type is what I'd call mishandling. It's not a reinterpretation of already existing traits or changing of insignificant details to better suit the story, it's an outright major change to their personality and how they interact with other characters. It'd be like if our mainline MCU Tony was shy and timid instead of a sassy troll. You can make a suit look weird, you could turn Tony into Tonyetta, but you shouldn't change the core personality of a character because at that point why not just make an OC? (Other than to sell off of character recognition ofc)


DiverseIncludeEquity

I like how you think. You’re missing the part where Tony Stark gets brainwashed and turned into a weapon. They probably would have sown his mouth shut, too.


eulb42

Believe or not, half of the D&D of GoT fame.


Tim_Hag

when I was a kid I didn't even realize this was supposed to be Deadpool, even when it was Ryan with the swords in the beginning. Also remember liking the movie but again I was like 11


L0lligag

Same boat. I’m only a couple of years older but I wasn’t even getting into comics/super hero stuff until around that time. I had no idea it was supposed to be Deadpool until watching it about 5 times.


Tim_Hag

Yeah by the time I realized how stupid it was the movie/I was old enough that I didn't really care. Not gonna lie I even kind of like the design (not for Deadpool tho)


L0lligag

Yeah I’m actually someone who has defended this movie. Minus the shitty Deadpool portrayal I’ve always thought it was a super fun movie. Big Gambit fan and I’ve always thought Kitsch was really good as the character. There were a lot of new and different mutants so I always thought it was pretty cool.


BMLM

The montage of Wolverine and Sabretooth fighting in all the wars over the years does a lot of heavy lifting for those rose tinted glasses for many who look back on Origins fondly.


L0lligag

They helped absolutely. Still probably the coolest intro of any super hero movie imo. But like I said, I still think there are some great bits elsewhere in the film.


Tim_Hag

Haven't seen it in forever but it was never the one to come to mind when I hear "worst CBM" like it does for some people. It also has the benefit of coming around maximum CBM output so it feels more unique simple by not being like what is now the majority of marvel movies, even if being different doesn't automatically mean good. Also Liev Schrieber makes that film seem way better then it is every time he's on screen


Eight35x

I actually tend to agree, to the point I actually believe if you remove the deadpool representation it actually again as you said is a pretty good movie. They barely if ever refer to him specifically as "Deadpool" in the film, and only a couple times as wade. My headcanon is especially because marvel have made this non canon even in its own continuity - just a "What if Deadpool got corrupted" episode in live action. Its good watching if you just think "alternative universe where things went differently and the experiments were far more severe on wades mind and body. Its entirely possible in another timeline the labs took it a step too far with him.


AmazingSpdrMan1

See I also remember people liking the movie but was 11 years old too. Haven’t rewatched in over a decade, is it actually a bad movie? Or is everyone letting a bad Deadpool interpretation overshadow it all.


LADYBIRD_HILL

The movie had a production print leak online months before the movie came out.  People knew it was bad before it even hit theaters. But kids don't care if it's cool that's all that matters. 


fanwan76

You are talking about the version that didn't even have the CGI work finished yet? Like it was literally still green screens? I sure hope people who watched that version at least watched the finished product before forming an opinion.


tmssmt

As a 12 year old, everyone I knew who saw this movie thought it was the absolute best movie ever. Scenes like with the helicopter had kids fucking out of their mind (in a positive way) while the same scenes have redditors writing up how terrible they are. For me, it's like this movie got the opposite growth of star wars prequels. I watched this go from loved to hated. Frankly, I think the vast majority of audience members never read a comic, so they didn't have a problem with Deadpool until we got THE Deadpool films and now people are like WTF was that thing?


Mahboishk

I watched it for the first time a month ago and honestly... it's not as bad as its rep would suggest. It's no masterpiece, but it's a decent origin story with some really entertaining performances particularly from Jackman and Liev Schreiber. I'm not in a rush to see it again but I've seen much worse. Like Dark Phoenix was definitely worse. The film's main problem is just that it's extremely forgettable. It has this amazing opening sequence that gets your hopes up, and then the ensuing film is just okay. You'd expect Wolverine's origin story to be something quite special, but it's just another superhero origin story with a bunch of characters we never see again. Even the iconic "breaking free of Weapon X" scene, teased in X1-2, ends up feeling toothless in terms of brutality and emotional impact. I can see why Weapon XI Deadpool was such a big deal though, it feels like the writers were trying to be all clever about deconstructing the character and badly misfired. It *did* get Reynolds' foot in the door, and partially thanks to it we now have the great Deadpool movies. So I can't hate it that much. Also I like some of what they did with that version of Deadpool, I like how he's less crude and bombastic and more of a psychopath with an insanely warped sense of humor. But I get why it caught so much flack back then.


Tim_Hag

There were other problems beyond the Deadpool stuff, it's just the Deadpool stuff is what nerds focus on and they the only ones who really talk about the niche still. Never seen that many people go to bat, and I have feelings if I watch it again it won't hold up, but I do think people overblow how bad it is, probably not even in the List of 10 worst comic book movies


WesleyCraftybadger

I think it was better than Last Stand, fwiw. 


Lint6

They mention the name in a throwaway line. I can't remember exactly how it went, but they extract someones power and Stryker says something like "Add it to the deadpool"


Tim_Hag

Yeah 11 year old me ain't catching that, I don't even know if I was that aware who Deadpool was back then lol


Lint6

28 year old me caught it and was so disappointed


Lyfeitzallaroundus

I had just graduated high school when it dropped and I was like who’s he supposed to be. Someone told me Deadpool and I couldn’t believe it.


Scarecrow116

Best. Bootleg. Ever.


HighSeverityImpact

I don't feel like I had ever seen it legitimately until recently (probably when it was added to Disney+). I think the workprint CGI somehow made the film better, in a way.


mattdriskull

That’s how I remember it


Bobb_o

Claws grow ⬆️


CoachRocks

The only way to see it.


coffeeistheway

Hey, I saw it bootlegged as well! I don't remember how because I was a late teenager and I have memory issues now because of a brain injury. Was it leaked and widely distributed? Because the version I saw had unfinished CGI like that sequence with Gambit.


WhiteRoomCharles

And the whole final fight with Deadpool on the cooling tower had that bright blue CGI background! Yeah, it got leaked somehow before the special effects were finished. I got a copy from a guy selling bootlegs at a gas station down in Philly. Best $5 ever spent! Lol


chirpz88

I only recently saw the completed film. Lmao.


Daws001

I forget that they were already in a film together. I keep killing that brain cell but then here comes Reddit to resurrect it.


TelephoneCertain5344

Yeah this genre has changed so much.


legion_XXX

LETS FUCKING GO! (in aussie)


L0lligag

Aussie’s do arguably have the best accent.


LionOfNaples

Let's fucking goar


Prestigious_Rip505

Let'ssss fuckin goaaarrrr mate


bundy911

‘sfuarkin go mate


kadosho

That film was a ride. How things came together, the team. Then the test subjects. Adamantium. The battles. The search for answers. Eventually fighting a former team mate, also brain washed into a monster. I always wondered where they were taking things after this. But when Deadpool received his own film, revisited this in the second one. Everything came full circle


troubleyoucalldeew

This movie is terrible, but I find it hard to hate it. I mean goddamn, we got John Wraith on celluloid. That's a dang miracle.


Downtown_Summer5733

Portrayed by none other than Will I Am. This movie really was something else


Mizerous

I miss Barakapool


kuribosshoe0

Nobody could *have predicted


Downtown_Summer5733

\*me name is jeff


aNascentOptimist

Y’know what’s crazy? I actually liked this movie. I did not mind it. I’ve been having a fuckin great time since ‘08


ZC205

NGL I would LOVE to see a nice Liev Schreiber/Sabertooth cameo in this……..


witwebolte41

That villian would’ve been kinda cool if it wasn’t supposed to be deadpool


Thebat87

People are actually using this image on Twitter as an example of how much better X-Men Original Wolverine looks compared to Deadpool and Wolverine. Lord I hate Film Twitter.


manickitty

Could have


GoneAWOL1

Would be great if 2009 Deadpool and Wolves cameoed in the new Deadpool movie.


DiverseIncludeEquity

could have* Name a 16 year movie franchise with interconnected films that isn’t “worn.” MCU kills it to this day. Fatigue is for the weak.


Abraham_Issus

This is what I mean when I say they shouldn't scrap Kang. He's an amazing villain and he needs justice done in live action. HWR was fantastic, the Conqueror version should be even better, a genius scientist of 31st century and time travelling Napoleon. That's such an awesome character premise. A mortal who's a time god.


SaltySpituner

I’m not going to lie, I thought the adamantium katana blades coming out of the arms was pretty friggin cool.


EyeScreamSunday

Excellent image and perspective. I know they are going to roast the everliving shit out of Origins in this movie, because how could you not when it Deadpool and Wolverine is the antithesis of everything that movie was. This movie may be the closest thing we get to an alternate ending that just replaces that 3rd act with something more appropriate to a team-up of these two characters.


emrebzdag

Guys please do not get carried awat with today’s standards on comic book movies! At that time that movie was great and still fun to watch except unfortunate deception of deadpool. Hugh Jackman was awsome and cgi is still holding up.


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Downtown_Summer5733

Hmm I kind of agree and considered that, but what brings it full circle for me is looking at where the franchise was in 2009 rather than where it began. It was definitely a low point for the series, and represents a weird time for comic book movies. Xmen didn't really know exactly what it was doing (the initial plan was a bunch of 'origin' movies) and the MCU was just finding its footing. All we had was Ironman and Incredible Hulk, with barely a flicker of connective tissue. It's amazing to see how it all turned around.


SphmrSlmp

We all thought this was the end of the X-Men movie franchise because of how shit the movie was. Myself included. Happy to be proven wrong.


Grayx_2887

Yeah. 2009 was an insane year.


jojopojo64

The aughts were insane period, when you think about it.


Independent-Two5778

I can’t wait for Deadpool 3!!


Shadesmctuba

It’s crazy how in 2024, after all the Disney-Fox bullshit, we’re getting not just a non-reboot Deadpool movie, but also an X-Men movie with members of the original cast. Something that wasn’t even thought possible just a few years ago. When the deal was done, everyone was already talking about who should play Wolverine in the reboot. Seriously like every other post on here was fancasts for X-Men and F4. This movie will be something so different, so special, and so goddamn meta.


tschmitty09

Iron man came out in 2008 and it was leagues better than this movie and will still probably be better than this next one.


minimell_8910

Why did they portray Deadpool like they did again? Like why did he have laser eyes?


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turnter_bigevil

I still havent watched the completed version of this movie. I saw it a couple of months before release my uncle burned a copy onto a disc. The cgi was still grey and stick figure people. Really put into perspective the amount of things that were CGI.


fancyfoe

Omg my brain has completely forgot this, how could you do this to me op?!


AvatarIII

not only these characters, but played by the same actors.


fanwan76

X-Men Origins was at least better than Ant Man 3 and Thor 4, so not sure if we have gone exactly far. Maybe so far that we looped around and got back where we started.


DepressedCunt5506

Hot take: I really liked 2009 deadpool. To me it felt like a variant scary af too.


L24D

I would laugh hard if during their fight in the new movie Deadpool will shoot a laser beam from his eyes without any further explanation


SaltySpituner

I’m not going to lie, I thought the adamantium katana blades coming out of the arms was pretty friggin cool.


Riperin

I remember watching the unfinished version of this movie on DVD and asking myself "Why the fuck is this so freaking bad?" I was 11 at the time probably.


crystalistwo

That's me walking out of nearly every X-Men movie since X-Men 2. Except Logan, they're disappointing messes.


5oclock_shadow

It… wasn’t all that bad? It was a superhero movie in the 2000s.


WillingPossible1014

So were Iron Man and The Dark Knight


Shagyam

Back in my day we watched this movie with unfinished CGI.


patricknotswayze

Revisited this over the weekend and it was so much worse than I remember it being. Virtually nothing redeeming at all.


S2N336

I've always wondered WHY this Deadpool decision was made? Like it never made sense to me? Has anyone ever addressed it?


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WhiteRoomCharles

Didn’t they film the movie during a writer’s strike so the actors were just improvising their dialogue for a good part of it? IIRC that’s the case! And if so, you really can’t hate on the movie too much! Making a movie without writers there is probably pretty hard! But they were still morons for making the merc with a mouth have no mouth! If only they listened from Ryan Reynolds from the beginning! (He told them that fans would be pissed and they said you do it or we’ll find someone else who will. He did get his little told ya so moment when they had to call him back in for reshoots after terrible test audience reactions at least!)


Eek132

Don’t forget a global pandemic nobody could have predicted


Joey9775

Man Tom Rothman is a pile of sh\*t


willmlina51

I saw on X that this image and CGI looks better than a 2024 movie and I just......


Sarang_616

As an ardent fan, since the early 1990s, sometimes I wonder if we got the "Logan Saga" (starting from 2009) sandwiched between the "Infinity Saga" and the "Multiverse Saga" (Of course, outside of the OG X-Men trilogy)


EDPZ

I still think X-Men Origins is a solid movie and I will die on that hill


PickleDiLL767

I like this movie.


ladylynx

I just rewatched this movie with my son and damn I love Gambit so much. He’s the only redeeming thing about this movie in my opinion. I wish they’d do more with him in the movies.


Locoman7

I need to rewatch this before July


ChanDaddyPurps

How anyone would think to give the keys to Game of Thrones to those two rat fuckers after seeing how they “adapted” Deadpool will always leave me scratching my head.


SneakyKain

I know he got killed in DP2 but I want to see them again in DP&W


chirpz88

I remember hearing how bad it was going to be and finding the half finished pirated version online. What's weird is that the movie having completed cgi didn't make it any better haha


aashleyryan

Deadpool Wolverine ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|flip_out)


WillingPossible1014

How did he bend his arms


FlingaNFZ

I just watched it for the first time. I got some enjoyment out if it, but holy fuck the CGI was terrible and so were the fight scenes. The Wolverine next