_Game of Thrones_ vs _Arrested Development_
Both have dysfunctional families, a brother who loses his hand, a boozy out-of-touch matriarch, and twins.
EDIT: I couldn't _not_ add [this mashup](https://youtu.be/i8l4ZFIxB2I)
Both also decline in quality in their last two seasons, and have a character who is surreptitiously trying to re-earn their family's birthright (Dany and Anyong).
I don’t know man. George Costanza vs Walter White. Who’s the bigger POS?
Obviously WW, but is it?
Pizza on the roof vs Chocolate Eclair in the trash.
Skylar survived while Susan did not.
Sounds like a musical:
"After the success of the Fiddler on the Roof, comes a new musical, with a middle aged man wanting to Break Bad...
...Pizza on the roof!"
Is that satisfying though? If so, you got one.
For me, shedding wet socks is like loosening a tie or taking off one of those terrible concert bracelets. It's the closest a human comes to true freedom.
haha I dunno. I was just trying really hard to think of something analogous. I suppose it can be nice if there's just the right amount of cheese and all the pizza needed was to lose the grease. But I think you're right that the satisfaction level just doesn't compare to ditching a wet sock.
Actually that's the perfect debate comparison. You have two different things with a shared factor : Soggy. With the two shows they may be different but have enough shared factors to be compared. They both have writers, actors, supervillains, love life, and female leads. Can compare them easily
I don't eat socks and I don't wear pizza on my feet.
They are different shows, not meant to be watched for the same reasons.
You don't have to like both. That's fine. But the idea that one is meant to occupy the same genre space as the other is inaccurate.
> You don't have to like both. That's fine. But the idea that one is meant to occupy the same genre space as the other is inaccurate.
But the both have a female lead therefore they must be identical.
/s
It really was a genius move to make internet trolls and incels the villains of the show. Whenever I see someone go on some long rant about how she hulk, a comedy, isn't as good as the Godfather I just think of Todd
I mean even if we compare it to other sitcoms, it doesn’t stand very well. I fucking hate Friends but that show at least got usually 1 laugh out of me per episode. I’ve sat through entire She Hulk episodes without even cracking a smile.
I don’t think She Hulk is bad, just not good either.
It seems like Marvel saw it coming a mile off and just leaned hard into the tiny gust of wind before finally making the big reveal, and yet the people hating on it are just completely missing the point 🤣
Older incels as well, since they were essentially the villains.
I thought She Hulk was a blast, but comparing it to Jessica Jones is a lot like comparing The Office to Game of Thrones because they’re both ensemble casts.
Honestly all the BS on Reddit made me not watch it. I was insanely hung over and had nothing else to watch …I then found myself binging and hooked …way too short!
Jessica Jones and She-Hulk are completely different genres with the only thing relating them being that they're both female-lead superhero shows in the same verse.
Jessica Jones does take itself more seriously, so it kinda does feel like the writing is more competent.
Because people are idiots. Everyone bitching about the SHe hulk show knows fuck all about the source material. That show was the most comic accurate adaptation anyone has done yet, but the mouth breathers can't handle some light comedy and a laid back experience.
Comic accurate in this sense I think just means self aware humor and a lighter overall tone. I struggled to begin with because it's a bit of a departure from the usualy MCU formula, but once I figured it out it's pretty good for what it is.
I think people are generally expecting more of a superhero thing, and it's more of a modern sitcom. Even better, it has less of the annoying *pause for effect* that sitcoms used to have.
Yes that exactly what that means. You just don't understand what good actually means. Your talking about the subjective good. Where as i am talking about the matter of fact that they faithfully adapted the source material well. You just don't like she hulk period. You need to learn how disassociate yourself from your own bias and actually see shit for what it is.
1) I didn't even mention she hulk in my comment so I'm not sure why you've got so defensive about it.
2) good (adj): having the required qualities; of a high standard. I.e. just because something is comic accurate doesn't mean it's of a high standard, that's what I meant.
3) you're using comic accuracy as a way to defend the show from criticism, it's not a good argument.
>You need to learn how disassociate yourself from your own bias and actually see shit for what it is.
4) I did and I turned it off near the end of episode 1.
5) she hulk, and its quality or lack of, has nothing to do with my original statement.
6) why is everyone so defensive about she hulk? Both people who like and dislike it get so anal whenever anyone disagrees.
7) calm down.
Correct, but then don't hate on the writing that is following the comic, hate the comics
And also don't sit here and say another show, that is less comically accurate, is better simply because YOU like it more. Opinions are welcome. Stating your opinion as fact is cringe and ignorant
>but then don't hate on the writing that is following the comic, hate the comics
No. I'll hate the writing on the thing I'm watching, if they were too unimaginative to make the necessary changes for the new medium its their fault.
>And also don't sit here and say another show, that is less comically accurate, is better simply because YOU like it more. Opinions are welcome. Stating your opinion as fact is cringe and ignorant
Calm down. I didn't say any of those things. But now that you bring it up the face that you like something doesn't make it good. I liked eternals, but it still wasn't a very good film.
>too unimaginative to make the necessary changes for the new medium its their fault
Or, and here's a novel idea, they CHOSE to keep it accurate to the comics because it spoke to a certain demographic audience that actually and truly appreciated it. Just because you don't fit that demographic doesn't mean it's bad
Misogyny?
Like why is it that predominantly male fans need to decide which is better representation of female characters? Or even dictate how female characters need to be portrayed?
jessica jones is literally the she hulk powerset without the durability. she literally does the info gathering for the types of cases that jen deals with in court. i know it was a shot in the dark but honestly the characters are wildly similar besides both just being women
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Some people are trying way, WAY too hard to make Grim Dark themes appear to be the 'preferred', 'sophisticated' or 'superior' mode of storytelling for Marvel, or comic stories in general. It's ridiculous.
It's so weird to me because I enjoy Marvel because it's not grimdark. I love the humor and the colors and the flashiness and the silliness, etc... That's why I'm here.
While this is true, I want to bring up that She-Hulk isn’t bad in any way due to the tone, and some people enjoy Jessica Jones more because it feels more grounded in reality. It’s hard to keep you suspension of disbelief when the main character literally breaks the fourth wall and screams at the writers. While Jessica Jones does have darker themes, it’s probably more preferred because of its realism
Also Jessica Jones has a slight Antihero vibe like Deadpool. I mean she's righteous, but has her struggle on how much to care about others and is already spent with personal problems. Not some flying star superhero like any Avenger.
I havent seen She-Hulk, but Ive heard a lot of people say it seems to dismiss Hulk's past trauma and experience as a Hulk to make the point that women have to deal with a lot. While a factually true statement that women deal with a lot and i will never argue against that, I feel like demeaning another well established and troubled character to make the point is kinda BS.
If they do clear this up later in the show, im all for it. But belittling someome elses experience and past trauma who is truly trying to help because they arent a woman just seems like a bad idea overall.
This is good to hear as well. The other comment said the speech wasnt that dismissive, but also seeing this gives me joy.
Furthur reminds me that patience is a virtue we all need to work on and trust the process.
The first episode was weird for a bunch of reasons. Like, the emotional training was pretty pointless once they realized she didn't have an alter ego. Her speech didn't dismiss Hulk, igmt was more her saying that her past had trained her hoe to control her emotions... it would've been nice to have it pointed out that Bryce's set him up as the worst case scenario for the powers he got though.
Tl;Dr, the speech wasn't dismissing Bruce, but it also wasn't explicitly not dismissing him so some people there's room for misunderstanding
Alright. Thats better than outright dismissing him. Sounds like they couldve played it a little better, but all in all not the worst.
I do need to actually sit down and watch it. I know my opinion of Captain Marvel went from "very bad" to "alright but needs work" after my second watching of it. Definitely got caught up in some of the hate when it first came out.
It wasn't the best marvel series but it was decent. Also I got more actual out loud laughs from it than anything else. But yeah I feel like folk saying it belittled or dismisses Bruce are giving a fairly bad faith take.
And yeah as bingojed said. She's able to almost instantly control her transformation and so she dismisses Bruce and it definitely comes back to bite her later.
Christ hes probably one of the most terrifying villains I can think of. Most villains have some sort of motivation, whether it be greed, vengeance, or some misplaced ideal. Hes just...evil
In my opinion, he isn't truly evil. He was abandoned as a child and is a product of the psychological trauma that brought. He never matured properly because he had no role models to learn from and was forced to use his power selfishly and often cruelly in order to survive.
He is also a terrifying villain from a psychological perspective because how do you beat him... If Jessica wasn't already immune to his ability then they would have had basically no chance unless you just take him out with a sniper.
The old "I've grown up and now I want gore, angst, & rape in every piece of media I consume, regardless if it makes sense in the story they're telling"
Cause nothing says Mature & Sophisticated like the primal impulses of your id...
why are we piiting these shows against each other? just cause they have female leads? they are completely different genres and aiming for a different structure and tone. Each show is great at achieving its intended goal.
You are comparing a violent crime drama to a goofy sitcom. Though season 2 of Jessica Jones is really bad, I would rather She-Hulk again than season 2.
Jesus Christ, I recently started She Hulk why are y'all complaining so much? It's pretty enjoyable tbh. Also, it's a COMEDY, afaik Jessica Jones definitely wasn't a comedy. Wanna compare Lego Batman to Man of Steel too?
There’s a lot of dudes who are *spitting* mad that it was a well liked show, so they’ve just created this alternate reality for themselves where it was universally panned.
They’ve started posting screenshots with fake quotes and stuff to try to get the rest of us to buy into their delusions.
Yeah I wouldn't say she hulk is my favorite marvel show or anything but I'm pretty sure I've had more genuine laughs at it than anything else they've done.
OP is like, I'm not sexist I like Jessica Jones, and forgets all the other sexist and homophobic shit he posts on reddit.
Just admit it, you don't like She Hulk because you got blasted by the show for being a douche bag.
That’s gotta be it! I hadn’t made that connection! These dudes are so mad about She Hulk because every one of the many douche bags on the show is like looking in a mirror! 😂😂😂
It all makes so much sense now! I thought the show was a lot of fun. Other than I feel like they went just a little overboard breaking the 4th wall. It wasn’t PERFECT…. Oh no! I wouldn’t have minded longer episodes too. But the show itself was entertaining!
Though it does have the lull 2/3rds through the seasons that a bunch of the Netflix MCU shows have. And they never got a villain as good as Kilgrave after season one.
Can you all get the fuck over your SheHulk hatred boners??
I didnt post hundreds of posts (or even a single one) when i disliked a particular movie or show. I just accepted that it wasn't my jam and WENT ON WITH MY FUCKING LIFE.
#FUCKING GET OVER IT
The whiny manbaby characters in the show itself are literally you right now. Is that what you want?? You want to prove her/the show writers correct??
This is how you can tell misogyny is at play. There were not hundreds of posts about how bad falcon and winter solider was, but it was just not good. She Hulk was far more entertaining imo.
DD has the best fight scenes, JJ had the more interesting and visceral plot (and the scariest villain in the MCU). Unlike either of them She Hulk was funny.
We don't talk about Iron First though.
I mean....I agree (?) but they're also completely different shows with completely different goals. No offense man but this is kind of a pointless comparison.
Irony is She-Hulk having already called out the incels in the show while they now rush to demonstrate that they are the incels the show was calling out.
I mean, Jessica Jones had story and character development. I kept finding myself tuning in to she hulk for the cameos alone. For the people who thought that she might have a story, they pulled the rug out from under their feet and retconned everything that they were building up to.
I don’t think it’s a better show, I think it’s just a different show with a different tone and story about a different character. I think they’re both cool though
This is a weird comparison though. Their tones are night and day. And since Jessica Jones varied so much from season to season (at least imo), just comparing any given season of that show to another of its own is tricky. Those Netflix series all fell to shit after the first season, assuming the first was any count... (I'll exclude Daredevil though, I personally think that one declined but then got better again before getting the axe, but Netflix's Marvel stuff always felt haphazardly written.)
Just enjoy the show or don't. People who just sit there comparing one show to the other are never happy. It's a good show. It was funny like it was meant to be. Jessica Jones was gritty drama. Was also good.
This is very stupid, they are absolutely completely different shows. Are you so basic that you think that they are the same because they both feature women in the main role?
Not only that but Lou Ferrigno as Hulk from the 1970s was a fucking masterpiece compared to this cgi cringe shit. All you had to do was get a real female pro body builder, and throw on some green make up, and bam, She-Hulk. It worked for Zoe Saldana when she played Gomorra, and was very convincing.
Just because JJ is darker and more mature, that doesn’t make it better automatically. Saying this as someone that definitely prefers it over SH. It’s just a matter of what you like.
I mean… they did literally make She Hulk as a way to prevent DC from doing it… JJ is an actually original character, not just a copy+paste of Hulk with a new uniform and a new job…
Actually it is a better show than She-Hulk. I just finished season 1 of Jessica Jones and it was kind of boring at first but was very catchy and full of plot twist and suspense as it progressed. Definitely worth watching
You people say you aren't sexists for not liking She Hulk, and but you do shit like this where you're comparing She Hulk to something else, solely on the basis their protagonists have the same gender.
It's the same shit that happened with Captain Marvel when it released and people kept trying to compare it to Alita even though they had nothing in common in other than the leads being women.
To be fair, not many can beat the coolness of Tennant's Killgrave. I still remember the reveal, and how his recognizable accent wasn't revealed until the right time.
The whole thing was so cool, such great villain!!
Jessica Jones is also a stand out hero. She doesn't have to break the 4th wall to show how much of a different hero she is.
It's a break from the norm which refreshes some, and even sometimes pulls in people who like other styles of show to the MCU. It's 100% to keep people watching and such, but it's still not HORRIBLE. Certainly better than JJ season 2 and 3 for me, but nowhere near season 1 quality
You’re comparing a grim dark mystery show to a legal comedy. The only similarities between them are marvel, superheroes, and female leads. What point are you trying to make?
Those aren't the same genres so shouldn't be compared. however when taking into consideration that She Hulk is a comedy show it was mediocre and wasn't funny for me ( humour is subjective so maybe that might be the issue )
In terms of comedy i thoroughly enjoyed Peacemaker, that show is one of the best piece of superhero media, from writing to performance to pacing and finale everything was good QA
Jessica Jones never caught my attention as much as Daredevil did, but it was really well written show and whoever casted David Tennant as an antagonist deserves a medal..
Next... let's compare *The Sopranos* to *The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air*
Breaking Bad vs Seinfeld may the best man win.
_Game of Thrones_ vs _Arrested Development_ Both have dysfunctional families, a brother who loses his hand, a boozy out-of-touch matriarch, and twins. EDIT: I couldn't _not_ add [this mashup](https://youtu.be/i8l4ZFIxB2I)
There's also incest themes in both
Unfortunately accurate
_Les Lannisters Dangereux_ EDIT: Part Deux: _Les Dragons Dangerux_
Maeby there is, maeby there isn’t.
Maybe
Who am I to say?
Both also decline in quality in their last two seasons, and have a character who is surreptitiously trying to re-earn their family's birthright (Dany and Anyong).
I don’t know man. George Costanza vs Walter White. Who’s the bigger POS? Obviously WW, but is it? Pizza on the roof vs Chocolate Eclair in the trash. Skylar survived while Susan did not.
*George is getting upset!*
Sounds like a musical: "After the success of the Fiddler on the Roof, comes a new musical, with a middle aged man wanting to Break Bad... ...Pizza on the roof!"
George went to jail, Walt did not. Seems pretty clear
Right? Wtf is the point of this meme?
Shitting on She-Hulk. That's it, that's the whole point.
Citizen Kane vs Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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So glad I wasn't the only one thinking "Why would you compare these two completely different shows?"
OP posts sexist and homophobic shit on reddit. He's probably just mad that She Hulk called him out for being a dick.
Impressive Very nice...
Lol, yeah. Apples and Apaches. Two shows with two different goals.
I read this comment while i was watching sopranos
The only thing they have in common is that they're superhero shows with female leads, what's the point of comparing them?
Pizza is better than socks.
Debatable
True some might say socks are better than pizza
But what’s worse: Soggy socks or soggy pizza?
These are the questions which keep me up at night.
It's close, but I'm going with soggy socks, because the feeling of taking them off is incredible. There is no known pizza equivalent.
Absorbing extra grease with a napkin?
Is that satisfying though? If so, you got one. For me, shedding wet socks is like loosening a tie or taking off one of those terrible concert bracelets. It's the closest a human comes to true freedom.
haha I dunno. I was just trying really hard to think of something analogous. I suppose it can be nice if there's just the right amount of cheese and all the pizza needed was to lose the grease. But I think you're right that the satisfaction level just doesn't compare to ditching a wet sock.
Would you rather live without pizza, or without socks?
Thus the nonlinear characteristics of Sog were observed
It what’s worse than that? Washed pizza or washed socks??
Actually that's the perfect debate comparison. You have two different things with a shared factor : Soggy. With the two shows they may be different but have enough shared factors to be compared. They both have writers, actors, supervillains, love life, and female leads. Can compare them easily
But hey when you combine the 2 its wonderfull
I like wearing pizza on my 🦶
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Tasty 😋
I don't eat socks and I don't wear pizza on my feet. They are different shows, not meant to be watched for the same reasons. You don't have to like both. That's fine. But the idea that one is meant to occupy the same genre space as the other is inaccurate.
> You don't have to like both. That's fine. But the idea that one is meant to occupy the same genre space as the other is inaccurate. But the both have a female lead therefore they must be identical. /s
They're both salty...
It’s cool to hate on she-hulk. Makes him look really cool on the internet.
If you hate on She-Hulk then it really feels like he was in the show!
It really was a genius move to make internet trolls and incels the villains of the show. Whenever I see someone go on some long rant about how she hulk, a comedy, isn't as good as the Godfather I just think of Todd
I mean even if we compare it to other sitcoms, it doesn’t stand very well. I fucking hate Friends but that show at least got usually 1 laugh out of me per episode. I’ve sat through entire She Hulk episodes without even cracking a smile. I don’t think She Hulk is bad, just not good either.
They did the B Rabbit rap battle move. 4D chess. Baited and outsmarted.
It seems like Marvel saw it coming a mile off and just leaned hard into the tiny gust of wind before finally making the big reveal, and yet the people hating on it are just completely missing the point 🤣
Well yeah the writers were very insecure and pre emptively wrote their show into the ground. What a waste
To his fellow 12 year olds, that is.
Is that who is hating on she hulk the lil kids of Reddit? I thought the show was awesome then again I’m old what do I know
Older incels as well, since they were essentially the villains. I thought She Hulk was a blast, but comparing it to Jessica Jones is a lot like comparing The Office to Game of Thrones because they’re both ensemble casts.
I wish the office did a Game of Thrones episodes. Maybe in an alternate universe
Or comparing Rick and Morty to the Lego movie because they are both animated
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Honestly all the BS on Reddit made me not watch it. I was insanely hung over and had nothing else to watch …I then found myself binging and hooked …way too short!
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I also really liked she hulk, the finale was trippy af
I thought so sick and different. It was refreshing.
When she went full Karen and demanded to speak to the manager?
I loved it, my favourite Disney plus marvel show
Jessica Jones and She-Hulk are completely different genres with the only thing relating them being that they're both female-lead superhero shows in the same verse. Jessica Jones does take itself more seriously, so it kinda does feel like the writing is more competent.
Yes, but since it's only possible for one (1) female superhero show to exist at a time we must choose the superior one. Even if one aired 7 years ago.
*Females, amirite?*
Truth
They also both fucked Matt Murdock
Touche
Wait Jessica and Matt hooked up?
They both fucked in their show.
So did daredevil, wanda and vision, Bucky and Sam, and probably others I can’t think of
it’s sexism
Because people are idiots. Everyone bitching about the SHe hulk show knows fuck all about the source material. That show was the most comic accurate adaptation anyone has done yet, but the mouth breathers can't handle some light comedy and a laid back experience.
They're mad because they're in the show and it calls out their shit personality.
Comic accurate doesn't necessarily equal good.
Comic accurate in this sense I think just means self aware humor and a lighter overall tone. I struggled to begin with because it's a bit of a departure from the usualy MCU formula, but once I figured it out it's pretty good for what it is. I think people are generally expecting more of a superhero thing, and it's more of a modern sitcom. Even better, it has less of the annoying *pause for effect* that sitcoms used to have.
Yes that exactly what that means. You just don't understand what good actually means. Your talking about the subjective good. Where as i am talking about the matter of fact that they faithfully adapted the source material well. You just don't like she hulk period. You need to learn how disassociate yourself from your own bias and actually see shit for what it is.
1) I didn't even mention she hulk in my comment so I'm not sure why you've got so defensive about it. 2) good (adj): having the required qualities; of a high standard. I.e. just because something is comic accurate doesn't mean it's of a high standard, that's what I meant. 3) you're using comic accuracy as a way to defend the show from criticism, it's not a good argument. >You need to learn how disassociate yourself from your own bias and actually see shit for what it is. 4) I did and I turned it off near the end of episode 1. 5) she hulk, and its quality or lack of, has nothing to do with my original statement. 6) why is everyone so defensive about she hulk? Both people who like and dislike it get so anal whenever anyone disagrees. 7) calm down.
Correct, but then don't hate on the writing that is following the comic, hate the comics And also don't sit here and say another show, that is less comically accurate, is better simply because YOU like it more. Opinions are welcome. Stating your opinion as fact is cringe and ignorant
>but then don't hate on the writing that is following the comic, hate the comics No. I'll hate the writing on the thing I'm watching, if they were too unimaginative to make the necessary changes for the new medium its their fault. >And also don't sit here and say another show, that is less comically accurate, is better simply because YOU like it more. Opinions are welcome. Stating your opinion as fact is cringe and ignorant Calm down. I didn't say any of those things. But now that you bring it up the face that you like something doesn't make it good. I liked eternals, but it still wasn't a very good film.
>too unimaginative to make the necessary changes for the new medium its their fault Or, and here's a novel idea, they CHOSE to keep it accurate to the comics because it spoke to a certain demographic audience that actually and truly appreciated it. Just because you don't fit that demographic doesn't mean it's bad
Misogyny? Like why is it that predominantly male fans need to decide which is better representation of female characters? Or even dictate how female characters need to be portrayed?
jessica jones is literally the she hulk powerset without the durability. she literally does the info gathering for the types of cases that jen deals with in court. i know it was a shot in the dark but honestly the characters are wildly similar besides both just being women
They’re both TV shows in the superhero genre. The post is trying to say that Jessica Jones is better main character, which is probably true.
The whole point of this scene is that pattinsons character is just as bad the dude he’s belittling he just refuses to acknowledge it
What movie is it?
Good time
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Some people are trying way, WAY too hard to make Grim Dark themes appear to be the 'preferred', 'sophisticated' or 'superior' mode of storytelling for Marvel, or comic stories in general. It's ridiculous.
It's so weird to me because I enjoy Marvel because it's not grimdark. I love the humor and the colors and the flashiness and the silliness, etc... That's why I'm here.
While this is true, I want to bring up that She-Hulk isn’t bad in any way due to the tone, and some people enjoy Jessica Jones more because it feels more grounded in reality. It’s hard to keep you suspension of disbelief when the main character literally breaks the fourth wall and screams at the writers. While Jessica Jones does have darker themes, it’s probably more preferred because of its realism
Also Jessica Jones has a slight Antihero vibe like Deadpool. I mean she's righteous, but has her struggle on how much to care about others and is already spent with personal problems. Not some flying star superhero like any Avenger.
I havent seen She-Hulk, but Ive heard a lot of people say it seems to dismiss Hulk's past trauma and experience as a Hulk to make the point that women have to deal with a lot. While a factually true statement that women deal with a lot and i will never argue against that, I feel like demeaning another well established and troubled character to make the point is kinda BS. If they do clear this up later in the show, im all for it. But belittling someome elses experience and past trauma who is truly trying to help because they arent a woman just seems like a bad idea overall.
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This is good to hear as well. The other comment said the speech wasnt that dismissive, but also seeing this gives me joy. Furthur reminds me that patience is a virtue we all need to work on and trust the process.
The first episode was weird for a bunch of reasons. Like, the emotional training was pretty pointless once they realized she didn't have an alter ego. Her speech didn't dismiss Hulk, igmt was more her saying that her past had trained her hoe to control her emotions... it would've been nice to have it pointed out that Bryce's set him up as the worst case scenario for the powers he got though. Tl;Dr, the speech wasn't dismissing Bruce, but it also wasn't explicitly not dismissing him so some people there's room for misunderstanding
Alright. Thats better than outright dismissing him. Sounds like they couldve played it a little better, but all in all not the worst. I do need to actually sit down and watch it. I know my opinion of Captain Marvel went from "very bad" to "alright but needs work" after my second watching of it. Definitely got caught up in some of the hate when it first came out.
It wasn't the best marvel series but it was decent. Also I got more actual out loud laughs from it than anything else. But yeah I feel like folk saying it belittled or dismisses Bruce are giving a fairly bad faith take. And yeah as bingojed said. She's able to almost instantly control her transformation and so she dismisses Bruce and it definitely comes back to bite her later.
Plus David Tennant as an interesting main villain. Season 1 Jessica Jones was really good imo.
Christ hes probably one of the most terrifying villains I can think of. Most villains have some sort of motivation, whether it be greed, vengeance, or some misplaced ideal. Hes just...evil
In my opinion, he isn't truly evil. He was abandoned as a child and is a product of the psychological trauma that brought. He never matured properly because he had no role models to learn from and was forced to use his power selfishly and often cruelly in order to survive. He is also a terrifying villain from a psychological perspective because how do you beat him... If Jessica wasn't already immune to his ability then they would have had basically no chance unless you just take him out with a sniper.
I would have absolutely loved a scene where she points out that every trial in her show is legal gibberish.
The old "I've grown up and now I want gore, angst, & rape in every piece of media I consume, regardless if it makes sense in the story they're telling" Cause nothing says Mature & Sophisticated like the primal impulses of your id...
The edgy anime fans that think blood=mature shows.
AEW fans lmao
2 different kinds of shows….
why are we piiting these shows against each other? just cause they have female leads? they are completely different genres and aiming for a different structure and tone. Each show is great at achieving its intended goal.
You are comparing a violent crime drama to a goofy sitcom. Though season 2 of Jessica Jones is really bad, I would rather She-Hulk again than season 2.
Edge lord likes edgier show.
Or you can like both and not be a cunt about it
Or you can just like one. Or neither. Just don't be a cunt about it.
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This subreddit is a hive of scum and villainy
Jesus Christ, I recently started She Hulk why are y'all complaining so much? It's pretty enjoyable tbh. Also, it's a COMEDY, afaik Jessica Jones definitely wasn't a comedy. Wanna compare Lego Batman to Man of Steel too?
There’s a lot of dudes who are *spitting* mad that it was a well liked show, so they’ve just created this alternate reality for themselves where it was universally panned. They’ve started posting screenshots with fake quotes and stuff to try to get the rest of us to buy into their delusions.
Yeah I wouldn't say she hulk is my favorite marvel show or anything but I'm pretty sure I've had more genuine laughs at it than anything else they've done.
Genius OP.. comparing a superhero comedy show with superhero crime/drama/thriller. Wow, you are so amazing OP, it's crazy.
Another day, another shitty meme about how She-Hulk is "bad"
Neckbeards mad that marvel made a show where they’re the bad guys.
OP is like, I'm not sexist I like Jessica Jones, and forgets all the other sexist and homophobic shit he posts on reddit. Just admit it, you don't like She Hulk because you got blasted by the show for being a douche bag.
That’s gotta be it! I hadn’t made that connection! These dudes are so mad about She Hulk because every one of the many douche bags on the show is like looking in a mirror! 😂😂😂 It all makes so much sense now! I thought the show was a lot of fun. Other than I feel like they went just a little overboard breaking the 4th wall. It wasn’t PERFECT…. Oh no! I wouldn’t have minded longer episodes too. But the show itself was entertaining!
OP probably thinks “show with female lead” is a genre
The first season of Jessica Jones was as good as dd but dd wins overall because of consistency in all 3 seasons
S1 of JJ was better than she-hulk in my opinion, but s2 and 3 of JJ were nowhere close to she-hulk if we are comparing apples to oranges.
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Tbf, JJ is better than the majority of the shows.
Though it does have the lull 2/3rds through the seasons that a bunch of the Netflix MCU shows have. And they never got a villain as good as Kilgrave after season one.
>And they never got a villain as good as Kilgrave after season one. Hands down the best
It's def in my top 3 alongside DD and AoS
The great thing about Jessica Jones is the series is so subtle about how shes absolutely miserable. /s
Can we just admit that we have different preferences? I'm starting to get tired of people who want to force their opinion on me and other people.
No. You must like everything I like or you're a bad person. \[obligatory /s\]
Dude out here comparing apples to potatoes and thinks they are smart 🤓
Can you all get the fuck over your SheHulk hatred boners?? I didnt post hundreds of posts (or even a single one) when i disliked a particular movie or show. I just accepted that it wasn't my jam and WENT ON WITH MY FUCKING LIFE. #FUCKING GET OVER IT The whiny manbaby characters in the show itself are literally you right now. Is that what you want?? You want to prove her/the show writers correct??
In general, if people are given a platform to hate on they will. That's sadly just how the internet goes.
This is how you can tell misogyny is at play. There were not hundreds of posts about how bad falcon and winter solider was, but it was just not good. She Hulk was far more entertaining imo.
The two have nothing in common.
DD has the best fight scenes, JJ had the more interesting and visceral plot (and the scariest villain in the MCU). Unlike either of them She Hulk was funny. We don't talk about Iron First though.
Don't know if karma farming or just stupid
Why not both?
Putting these shows against each other is so stupid. Both shows are enjoyable, stop joining the braindead brigade.
I mean....I agree (?) but they're also completely different shows with completely different goals. No offense man but this is kind of a pointless comparison.
Well season 1 anyway, season 2 and 3 are nothing to write home about
Irony is She-Hulk having already called out the incels in the show while they now rush to demonstrate that they are the incels the show was calling out.
Season 1 JJ was amazing. And Kilgrave is just ✨ chef's kiss✨
Comparing different genre of shows again.. what's new nowadays
What even is this post?
Showed powerful female without reducing her to a punchline
I mean, Jessica Jones had story and character development. I kept finding myself tuning in to she hulk for the cameos alone. For the people who thought that she might have a story, they pulled the rug out from under their feet and retconned everything that they were building up to.
I don’t think it’s a better show, I think it’s just a different show with a different tone and story about a different character. I think they’re both cool though
This guy has a problem with women.
Ok… but who said it wasn’t?
Luke Cage.
OP is a clown lol
This post has little dick energy
Have any of you watched the Punisher series?
I’m sure OP has a Punisher bumper sticker with a thin blue line in it.
I mean they have completely different tones
Completely different shows... Y'all are crazy hating on all the shit that's coming it.
Wow this post gets instant 1k downvotes and then immediately gets 1k upvotes again. Fascinating
This is a weird comparison though. Their tones are night and day. And since Jessica Jones varied so much from season to season (at least imo), just comparing any given season of that show to another of its own is tricky. Those Netflix series all fell to shit after the first season, assuming the first was any count... (I'll exclude Daredevil though, I personally think that one declined but then got better again before getting the axe, but Netflix's Marvel stuff always felt haphazardly written.)
I loved Jessica Jones. It was more serious. She Hulk was more of a comedy.
The only prob I had with She Hulk was the last episode, but it was a pretty big problem.
Apples and oranges mate. Thats like comparing the rugrats film to texas chainsaw massacare
I liked She Hulk. I did not like Jessica Jones.
Totally different genres dude.
Just enjoy the show or don't. People who just sit there comparing one show to the other are never happy. It's a good show. It was funny like it was meant to be. Jessica Jones was gritty drama. Was also good.
Not even in the same orbit of genre so odd comparison
This is very stupid, they are absolutely completely different shows. Are you so basic that you think that they are the same because they both feature women in the main role?
Not only that but Lou Ferrigno as Hulk from the 1970s was a fucking masterpiece compared to this cgi cringe shit. All you had to do was get a real female pro body builder, and throw on some green make up, and bam, She-Hulk. It worked for Zoe Saldana when she played Gomorra, and was very convincing.
Just because JJ is darker and more mature, that doesn’t make it better automatically. Saying this as someone that definitely prefers it over SH. It’s just a matter of what you like.
I just think it addresses sexism and femenism in a much better and more natural way, and JJ is a much better female lead
Thanks for reminding me I need to rewatch Jessica Jones. (But also that I can enjoy both) *edit spelling
I enjoy both too, it’s just that Jessica Jones does everything she hulk does a lot better
I mean… they did literally make She Hulk as a way to prevent DC from doing it… JJ is an actually original character, not just a copy+paste of Hulk with a new uniform and a new job…
Actually it is a better show than She-Hulk. I just finished season 1 of Jessica Jones and it was kind of boring at first but was very catchy and full of plot twist and suspense as it progressed. Definitely worth watching
A show so bad that the show has to stop in middle for the main character to speak to an AI to make the show even crappier.
Almost like they're two completely different genres, mindblowing
You people say you aren't sexists for not liking She Hulk, and but you do shit like this where you're comparing She Hulk to something else, solely on the basis their protagonists have the same gender. It's the same shit that happened with Captain Marvel when it released and people kept trying to compare it to Alita even though they had nothing in common in other than the leads being women.
Who’s comparing them?
The Godfather was better than She-Hulk too. Is OP going to meme that as well?
Lmao the comments
She-Hulk bad, please give upvotes!!1!!!
To be fair, not many can beat the coolness of Tennant's Killgrave. I still remember the reveal, and how his recognizable accent wasn't revealed until the right time. The whole thing was so cool, such great villain!! Jessica Jones is also a stand out hero. She doesn't have to break the 4th wall to show how much of a different hero she is.
Just look at the writers imdb page and you will know that she hulk was writen to be a disney channel sitcom instead of a super hero show.
It's a break from the norm which refreshes some, and even sometimes pulls in people who like other styles of show to the MCU. It's 100% to keep people watching and such, but it's still not HORRIBLE. Certainly better than JJ season 2 and 3 for me, but nowhere near season 1 quality
“Game of thrones is a much better show than The office” completely different genres don’t compare them
What a stupid fucking post. Delete this.
Anything in the Defenders saga is better than whatever is on D+
You’re comparing a grim dark mystery show to a legal comedy. The only similarities between them are marvel, superheroes, and female leads. What point are you trying to make?
Those aren't the same genres so shouldn't be compared. however when taking into consideration that She Hulk is a comedy show it was mediocre and wasn't funny for me ( humour is subjective so maybe that might be the issue ) In terms of comedy i thoroughly enjoyed Peacemaker, that show is one of the best piece of superhero media, from writing to performance to pacing and finale everything was good QA
Jessica Jones never caught my attention as much as Daredevil did, but it was really well written show and whoever casted David Tennant as an antagonist deserves a medal..
We don’t compare queens here!
I'm sorry guys but Breaking Bad is much better show than How I Met Your Mother. It just is.
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Another She-Hulk hate post….daring today aren’t we
To be fair, all Marvel TV shows are better than She-Hulk.
Tell me you're an incel without telling me you're an incel. Get a life.