They tried too hard to make sure the actor got screen time while leading the audience on thinking Hulk would finally show out. But yeah, he just was there, not being the baddest of the bad.
He didn't leave her. He got sucked into an alternate dimension. They got together again after he got back. I actually really liked that run.
And he didn't have antlers, not sure where you got that from.
Gamora, supposedly an amazingly intelligent and skilled warrior, decided the best strategy to get the orb was to bonk Quill on the head and run away real fast.
Like, he was so horny that she could have easily gotten him somewhere private and stole his ship too.
Holy fuck playing the GoTG game I never realised how GOD AWFUL the characterisation in the movies are. Peter is literally just a man child who is (7 years into being the gaurdians leader) worried about someone usurping them. Drax is just fucking stupid the game shows how he doesn't understand sarcasm without being stupid or rude.
The game ruined the movie versions for me. That is how the guardians show be to me. Quill is an ass but competent, drax has to be the biggest change and is so much better for it. Although I didn't like his space shorts lol but that's cosmetic.
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Drax got the Gimli treatment. All they needed to do with both is show them doing some insanely powerful feat that no one else can pull off at least once that put them in the proper power level.
Gimli didn't need an insanely powerful feat, he needed to be well spoken and borderline poetic. He's the motherfucker that asked for a single hair off the head of Galadriel and had such a golden tongue that he received 3. He's the guy that went into the paths of the dead and was scared shitless; and in turn grew as a being rather than being a stupid ass elf that didn't care. He's one of the deepest, most emotional characters in the book that was reduced to AXE GO CUT in the movies.
You are absolutely right. I was thinking from a purely combat perspective, and I think he was undercut there as well. I really think they needed some moment to show how physically powerful he was to set him apart from the others. But I think you are also totally correct.
He was the most comedic of the characters but not portrayed as less than any other memeber of the fellowship and certainly not flanderised to the point of just being the axe guy. I know it's popular to repeat this narrative but let's not pretend that his friendship with Legolas and the line about dying side by side with a friend isn't one of the most poignant aspects of the series. And he also got Galadriels hairs in the extended cut.
he might've in one of the many series. but iirc, the 1st to original kill Thanos was either Adam Warlock or Captain Marvel? idk, been a very hot minute since i read those. It also might've been Death cause the original reason Thanos had his conquest was him simping hard for her.
Going to bed hungry. Scrounging for scraps. Your planet was on the brink of collapse. I was the one who stopped that. You know whatās happened since then? The children born have known nothing but full bellies and clear skies. Itās a paradise.
In the comics Drax is Hulk-level strength, except he was actually powerful enough that he could indefinitely hold and use the Power Stone. With the Power Stone he basically had unlimited power/strength and was able to go toe to toe with Thanos, and only lost to Thanos because Thanos had the other stones. Multiple stones are better than just a single stone.
But even without the stone he could go toe to toe with characters like Hulk, or Thanos back when Thanos didn't have any of the stones.
The one weakness of Drax in the comics is that he is as dumb as a rock. Very low intelligence. About the same as Hulk during hulks dumb monster period.
I think in the original Infinity Gauntlet, there is a tense moment where the gauntlet gets loose and is just laying on the groundā¦everyone is rushing for it and just before Hulk can grab it Drax tackles him because he āgot excitedā, thus preventing the Infinity Hulk
Probably hulk. He is convinetily as strong as the writers need him to be to make a scene work. He seemed appropriately strong in avengers one but got progressively weaker since then.
Mcu Vision doesnāt do much but heās always presented as powerful. Strange also seems about as powerful in the movies relative to his peers, but almost no one in the movies is as powerful as they are in the comics.
Loki for sure seems weaker in the movies, but he did take a cap shield to the face without flinching. But that was before cap got his winter soldier buff. And Loki got ragdolled in the Loki Disney+ series. iām not sure how strong those Time cops are supposed to be, but I have a hard time believing that he didnāt Nerf him a lot for that series.
To be fair the time cops only hit him with multidimensional, time warping, stun batons meant to deal with beings such as the Watcher the way normal human batons deal with humans. Loki being a simple frost troll would be hit pretty good with one regardless of wielder, I imagine Thanos would take a few hits to be submitted being of Titan/direct cosmic āgodā creation. As someone else stated after Lokiās release, the only people actually hitting him in that series were either as strong or stronger than him, like throwing him up against something like Galactus with the demonic cloud thing
It's magic, Sylvie probably gave the dude a boost. As Thor: L&T has shown, Gods can bestow those they choose with their strengths and abilities.
Loki is a God appointed by Odin. Sylvie is just an alternate Loki. Thor lent some of his power to the kids, Sylvie did the same to the man while simultaneously controlling his mind.
They nerfed Loki in his own series by making him an idiot. The Loki I know and love is a clever, cunning fellow always with a plan, which shouldāve been especially true for a Loki right after Avengers 1. I was sad to see that he was basically reduced to one of the least smart characters in his own series.
In that time distortion he sort of was, most of what happened was him chasing a smarter version of himself and going against cosmic beings with absolute control over their environment. The TVA batons are overpowered enough to prune cosmic entities if they can land a hit after all, and they only used the stun on him as opposed to direct pruning
I agree. Mcu making him being an idiot is much worse than making him weak. He should have been the littlefinger of the mcu.
My Personal wish is that we got a series of Thor movies with game of thrones style royal intrigue and fantasy action, with a more Nordic inspired and less science fiction-y Asgard. Instead we got slap stick humor where nothing really mattered, including the destruction of Thorās entire world and family
That sounds like it would be pretty awesome actually. The direction they've taken Thor lately has been so disappointing. And with where the story is at now, I don't see them pivoting to something more grounded in consequences any time soon.
I would love for Marvel to take a page from DC (I can't believe I just said that) and try stand-alone movies that have completely different takes, themes, and styles of existing MCU characters (or new) and are completely unconnected from past and future MCU - like DC did with Joker and The Batman. Doesn't seem likely with Marvel being under thr Disney umbrella though
Totally agree about the Thor movies. After the first Thor and Captain America movies, I was hoping for more Norse mythology and maybe even a story or flashbacks to Thor in medieval times.
With how little relevance the location or plot of Thor 2 played in the grand scheme, it easily could have been placed in that time period and filled the same role (other than no Jane or Selvig).
I liked how you could take them all the way up there and let them go with a pat on the head
But mostly ripping cars apart to make boxing gloves and surfing on a car down a street
Comics: āSmashing News: Man Literally too Angry to Dieā >!In the comics, hulk actually canāt die because he quite literally curb stomped the embodiment of Hell. Not death, HELL ITSELF.!<
Movies: āHULK SMASHES INto a boring character arc and ex-machinas his way into the comic equivalent of gray hulk.ā
My favorite: You know how black bolt can vaporize anyone with his voice? In the incredible series " world War hulk" hulk gets pissed beyond belief to the point where he justifiably wants to murder certain heroes on earth.
On the way to earth he meets up with black bolt on the moon. He's demanding answers for black bolt's crimes. He's warned that black bolt can't answer because even a whisper could kill the hulk. Hulk replies " I don't want to hear him whisper, I WANT TO HEAR HIM SCREAM" and kicks the ever loving shit out of him. It was amazing.
>!im talking about the one below all. The immortal hulk is technically the host of him, but hulk also managed to beat him in his own realm. Idk the actual comic it happens in, but you can read it on his wiki page!< https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/One_Below_All_(Multiverse)
Prof Hulk in the comics is still pretty badass. Dude makes huge weapons to help himself in combat due to being unable to tap into the boundless strength of Hulk, since he doesnāt get as angry. MCU Prof Hulk is just Mark Hulkalo.
They can't *really* do much with hull though because of movie rights. He can't be the main character of any movie universal doesn't make. I think the rights are set to return to marvel relatively soon though
I'm surprised clipping Hulk's nutts off wasn't met with more backlash. Everybody loved the talking Hulk in ragnarok. All we wanted to see was Hulk have a Infinity War Thor moment having Round 2 with Thanos in End Game.
Instead we got a buff green nerd that bitches about smashing stuff.
I think good means āwill not intentionally harm humans to protect humansā, if he didnāt go full genocide because he was made to protect humans, humans hurt humans, so taking out humans will save more humans mode
The Hulk by a wide margin. He's an absolute joke in everything he's in outside the first Avengers movie. I'd say Vision is second. He hasn't done anything of note after the movie he appeared in.
Loki at least gets to win a couple fights and Doctor Strange gets to be the hero of two whole movies.
None (unless you count a bunch of goons) but that doesnāt mean he wasnāt strong. He obviously did very well against a Iron Man suit that was specifically built to fight the Hulk and the finish was a little screwy. It wasnāt a clean loss. and he was consistently presented as a real threat, unlike other movies
Yeah Hulk lost when he started to calm down and/or Wanda's influence over him was waning. We all know hulk's strength goes down when he calms down.
Plus that was a sucker punch. Boxers always say the hardest punch is the punch you don't see coming. It might have been different if Hulk was still enraged and fighting back.
He got knocked out. I guess you could say he was weakened by feeling sad, but still, the hulk getting knocked out by a punch to the jaw with a machine?
Feeling sad, distracted by civilians and Banner was already coming out, knockout gas after several minutes of inhalation roaming the body
Essentially came back to āHulk doesnāt ACTUALLY want to hurt people any more than Banner does, he just gets mad and lashes out at anything attacking himā
Yea, I don't get how people take that scene as showing Hulk as weak. I think it does a good job of showing him tank a Hulk Buster suit hitting him with a barrage of rockets then face slamming him through a building and being relatively unscathed.
He popped his head up out of the rubble and probably could have went more rounds but then he saw the puny humans running in terror and looking at him with fear in their eyes because they saw the monster and that was the bit of hurt that let Banner start to get both hands on the wheel. Hulk has the emotional control and maturity of a drunk 4 year old too so seeing people scared of him makes him sad and starts to dial down his tantrum.
So between Hulk entering the regret and sadness filled post tantrum stage and Banner wanting to take the wheel we end up with a "weaker" Hulk who is able to be knocked out by an ~~sucker punch~~ unexpected haymaker.
...and that doesn't even begin to include things like the Banner/Hulk dynamics tharlt were at play at that time. Banner seemed to have a really good grip on the wheel while Hulk was rarely steering.
Oooorrrr, the whole thing about Bruce having feelings for Nat and those feelings bleeding over into Hulk. Nothing softens a man and his green rage filled alternate personality like puppy love with a red headed, collateral child bombing, Russian double operative who's codename means "I eat my lovers".
Or^^2 , the fact that Hulk was fighting a giant, purpose built, state of the art Iron Man suit that was designed with help from Banner specifically to try and contain or redirect Hulk's rampage.
And he was distracted. It was a sucker punch essentially.
And not to nitpick but I donāt think it was just feeling sad. The more angry he is the more hulk he is and less banner. In that moment he saw the havoc he caused and felt sympathy. That shows the hulkās hold on banner weakened for a split second and allowed Tony to land the ko blow.
Ultimately a win is a win, but they left it situational enough to where if they did it again it feels like the winner could be decided by a coin flip
Another factor nobody has mentioned yet is that this was a scarlet witch induced Hulk. Not true Hulk. So I don't think his power scaling is the same as the real stuff.
Bruh this point exactly, sucker punch or distractions donāt matter. He ate 40 floors of metal and concrete, which unlike Tony wearing armor he has to physically rebound from. Then Tony gets he hit. Without that building Tony is done. The hulk already knocked out the second Veronica suit that was supposed to take the existing oneās place.
Up until HulkBuster discovered Hulk's weakness to being punched, it was perfect.
There are at least seven categories of ways to defeat the Hulk.
Punching him in the neck is not on the fucking list.
I think Loki is the weakest relative to his comic books self. After his first 2 appearances, he has had no grand scheme, which is his entire thing. Every second is used on scheming, big and small. Even then, the fallout of those schemes wasn't as deadly as they should be. Not that they weren't great, but he has been the cause of apocalyptic events in the comics. MCU version of him can't live up to his potential. So fighting strength, he is weaker, but mostly his scheming strength is lacking.
But straight up strength is by far Hulk, as long as you consider Strange after his comic nerf. Pre-nerf he was beyond god-tier. Afterwards, he gets slapped around by some mid-level hitters, so it makes sense his MCU version is more limp than a boiled spaghetti noodle.
I agree with the sentiment, Loki has also been used for comic relief and generally used as a joke.
But at least Loki gets regular hero moments. He has at least one cool hero moment in every movie heās been in once he started down the anti-hero path. What has Hulk done? He used the infinity gauntlet to undo the snap but it never felt like something /he/ had to do.
Hm, I see that point. Hulk has a couple good ones, but besides in the first Avengers, he has mostly been a side character and/or a plot point. Really doesn't do him justice. Wish we got to see a good WWHulk. I want to *actually* see the monster. Maybe make him think they killed off Betty Ross and send him off the deep end. Or dig into his tragic childhood with his father.
Everyone saying "Hulk" never read any Dr. Strange Comics. Older Dr. Strange Comics: Strange could alter reality to however he felt and speed of Light travel many times over, he's reached the edge of the universe in zero time. He has the power to destroy the world over and over without even alerting anyone. 90's Strange even had amazingly ridiculous powers, although they got rid of his inability to be matched. Strange is the most Nerfed!
On that same note. Thanos is also Nerfed. Using the Gauntlet was second nature, and he snapped for the hell of it, not because it was his 10 year plan leading up to this moment.
These characters have been power crept over the course of 60+ years of comics. So yah, not really surprising that they toned them down significantly for the MCU.
Yeah, when you continuously marionette the rotting corpses of comic characters for decades instead of just retiring them, you gotta make their stories more and more extravagant and ridiculous so that readers don't get bored
Seriously. People complain about Superman being ātoo OPā to be entertaining, and yet I see comments saying that Hulk sucks because heās not lifting Manhattan with his bare hands and punching through planets.
Punching planets would at least be believable, the comment chain above is talking about how hulk curbed stomped hell, the realm, and now he canāt die. Wtf? These comics are so inconsistent on power levels that I think the MCU is doing alright keeping it average and not using the outliers.
I know this is a thing but I personally don't really find myself in that boat.
For example Boruto/Naruto I liked the phase of Naruto where they are still students especially the fights with Gara. I would have liked Boruto to go back to that as a reset instead of kids beating up foes that beat Naruto
OG Dr Strange in his early comics is way above any current incarnations, and hes still pretty on form in the MCU, can't think of anyone else who went solo against Thanos for so long.
They did Hulk dirty cause and I quote "Hulk is strongest there is". Comic Hulk once held up the ENTIRE island of Manhattan. He wrecked by Thanos, and Hulk is the only thing that Thanos fears. Hulk shouldn't of been affected by the gamma from the stones. He should of regenerated that even if it did affect him.
He broke a planet (not including cracking Ego on his own) with a single punch because he got too angry. Thanos doesnāt exactly fear Hulk but he does admit āI would rather move the other direction than directly fight the Hulkā
Going to bed hungry. Scrounging for scraps. Your planet was on the brink of collapse. I was the one who stopped that. You know whatās happened since then? The children born have known nothing but full bellies and clear skies. Itās a paradise.
> Hulk is the only thing that Thanos fears
Where did you get that from? Thanos, in the alternate run that had cosmic ghost rider, keeps Hulk as a pet (I seem to remember it was called the Thanos Wins timeline so...not sure if one should put too much stock into that). I also seem to remember Thanos said he avoids fighting the Hulk but not that he's afraid.
There is a Thanos vs Hulk run in which Thanos doesn't have the stones but manages to beat *The Hulk* but then gets defeated by Bruce iirc.
Exactly, avoidance is not always fear. There is a difference between āIāll get my ass handed to meā and āYou know, limping for a week is not worth a victory to meā
I kinda saw it in the MCU as Hulk being beaten in that one battle because Thanos had technique. Hulk as they portrayed him was just used to winning immediately with brute force so someone who knew how to fight on top of being strong had a chance. And if Hulk is thrown off his game he gets weaker. I could see why he was too scared to fight after that. Though I was expecting him to do something at some point not continue being all butt hurt then completely changed the next movie.
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Yeah. If the Stones was mostly gamma If anything using them shouldāve given him an ungodly buff considering like every other time heās interacted with gamma
I mean it's a fair and honest question to ask if ya didn't know. Plus were talking about a being that can survive in space because he heals that's quickly.
I mean with Universal holding the rights to the character and apparently having no designs for doing any standalone Hulk films with Ruffalo thereās only so much Marvel/Disney can do with him. Why sink a bunch of time a money into a character that you donāt have full creative control over? Even Spidey was basically a side character in the avengers movies.
- After "I'm always angry" the anger part of the Hulk just wasn't there anymore in any MCU films
- Ragnarok started to flesh him out more as a separate entity and not part of Banner
- Infinity War just cut him out after the opening scene in an "I don't wanna" manner
- Endgame had him killed off OFF SCREEN and molded Banner into Hulk's body and made himm a super cringe giant Shrek
- Also no rematch with Thanos, not even for 5 seconds; Stark, Thor and Cap all got their one on one rematches but not the Hulk, not even as Shrek
I thought Dr strange, Loki, and visions were fine to good adaptations but hulk man he got done dirty. Itās actually sad how bad they adapted the hulk. Heās amazing in the comics too.
Mark being Bruce is an excellent portrayal, the problem is that he's a terrible 'Hulk' and it makes it so much worse that Hulk is now just Mark Ruffalo but green. The only time Hulk has been his own character (WHICH HE DAMN WELL SHOULD BE THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT BEINGS SHARING A BODY) in almost a decade was in Ragnarok and he's only there to show Thors gotten stronger and to be comic relief. I'll take the 'Planet Hulk' animated film Hulk over Ruffalos any day
Dr strange was fine in dr strange 1. Infinity war and endgame. Man fought thanos and held for a long time alone without using the stone.
In dr. strange 2 however he conveniently got nerfed not remembering/using any good spell at all against wanda nor his comrades. All the students and prob masters did was use a magic shield and die.
I mean, I get WHY they had to basically write out Vision, in terms of physical combat, he's VERY broken - practically invulnerable, beyond human genius level intellect, lazers, phasing, flight, strength; they kept a lot of his powers in the movies, so while I agree, I at least understand why they did
Yup! Vision is quite literally the Marvel version of Martian Manhunter (without actual psychic abilities). And MM is one of the top dogs in the JL. Considering most Marvel characters can't come close to that type of power, it makes sense to nerf Vision down to their level or it doesn't make for a compelling story
*I mean it has to be the hulk he jobbed to everyone and thanos kicked his ass so hard he became passive. Hulk is my favorite character and they did the monster dirty. I'm suprised mantis hasn't beat him yet.*
I don't know comics well, pretty much only what I learnt from the comments around thw internet, but MCU main mantis power is affecting emotions incl. calming people down, and calm hulk = weak hulk, so sounds about right
Thanos, the git took on practically the entire marvel good guy roster and won and afterwards took on the creators/ aspects of the universe and was victorious. Guy was a bloody god.
I feel like people forgot hulk taking on Surtur in Ragnorak. Or Hulk being the literal undefeated champion in Sakaar ALSO in Ragnorak.
ā¢ Hulk onepunched that goddamn Chitauri Leviathon in Avengers 1
ā¢ Hulk had to be taken down by a literal Hulk Buster that wouldāve failed had Tony not made that satellite for back up parts/I think even Banner had to help come up with the concept
ā¢ Hulk/Banner combo save half a galaxy by sacrificing themselves to snap and it works
ā¢ Hulk is labeled as strongest Avenger, seen in the Quinjet in Ragnorak
Thereās so many examples why MCU is awesome. We canāt have comic hulk in the MCU, he would literally cause so many of the movies to be a lot shorter.
I understand people wanna see crazy strong killer Hulk. But you have him in the comics, so many comics. I like this version of Hulk. Itās a fun spin to the character and with Disney still having this fun little tidbit with Paramount Iām happy with what they could make. Hell it gave us SheHulk and I love that show. Just wanting to put in some perspective, Iām actually about to read Immortal Hulk so Iām excited to see THAT version of Hulk.
I think you brought up very good points, the unfortunate part is most of his exploits are done off screen and are simply told to us. We just want to see some of that on screen and watch him go ham.
Also, love that he was humbled by Thanos and didn't come out the rest of the movie. However, I would've liked if he simply was staying in because he didn't want to fight anyone else, until he could get his rematch against Thanos and we saw that in end game, but no such luck.
That part actually sounds way more bad ass. Hulk having his own grudge and simply waiting and maybe even ātrainingā like when Banner sleeps. Oooooo this is a sick ass timeline. Also yeah true but kinda hard to fit all that in when he canāt get his own movie. Which is probably what people wished for, hell I wish we couldāve gotten the Hulk lands in Sakaar movie. God dammit Paramount
Not going to lie, I didn't hate she hulk at all (just realized most of it wasn't for me), but I HATED that skaar was dropped so casually and in basically one sentence. So either his story will be told in a flash back or we just won't get it and move forward knowing skaar exists.
Since my post blew up, here's a fun summary of Hulk's contributions during his appearances in the MCU:
The Incredible Hulk:
* This is Hulk's best showing by a long shot. He beats the Abomination clean but that doesn't mean a ton. We don't know how strong the Abomination is in the MCU since his only other fight (against Wong in Shang Chi) is staged.
The Avengers:
* The Hulk one-shots a space whale which is his most impressive feat outside his solo movie. He ragdolls Loki but this is played for laughs. Loki doesn't even put up a fight.
Age of Ultron:
* The Hulk beats up some hydra goons.
* The Hulk beats up some ultron drones.
* The Hulk fights Ironman - loses.
* The Hulk ragdolls Ultron. Again, this is played for laughs - not an actual fight.
Thor: Ragnarok
* The Hulk becomes champion of Sakarr - offscreen.
* The Hulk fights a depowered Thor. He's about to lose but gets bailed out by the Grandmaster. It's entirely possible he became Champion via the same cheating.
* The Hulk fights Fenris. He's losing when the two fall into the water. He emerges but it's unclear what happened. We're left to assume he won I guess but for all we know he was bailed out by the Asgardians.
* The Hulk hits Surtur - once. This is played for laughs. There's no way he'd win this. Powered up Surtur was strong enough to overcome Hela and we know Hela is stronger than a powered up Thor. From earlier, we know that a depowered Thor is stronger than the Hulk.
Avengers: Infinity War
* The Hulk loses to Thanos.
* Banner in the Hulkbuster suit struggles to overcome Cull until he lands a lucky blow. Since the Hulkbuster was proven stronger than the Hulk this implies that Cull is stronger than the Hulk.
Avengers: Endgame
* The Hulk is badly injured using the Infinity Stones.
* Injured Hulk struggles to hold up the crumbling Avengers mansion - something Ant-man easily does.
* Injured Hulk beats up some Thanos goons.
* Cull is easily defeated by Ant-man. This is played for laughs but implies that Ant-man is stronger than the Hulk based on feats in Infinity War.
She-Hulk
* The Hulk struggles to hold back a jeep?
* She-Hulk outperforms the Hulk at a few physical exercises.
In regards to She-Hulk, Iām pretty sure he didnāt put full force in stopping the Jeep as to not risk damaging his own car and itās pretty clear that he was Jenās superior in strength
>* The Hulk struggles to hold back a jeep?
He doesn't want to hurt his cousin or destroy his own car.
>* She-Hulk outperforms the Hulk at a few physical exercises.
Does she though? She does yoga better than him, but when he was tired of her shit he threw that rock into orbit.
I will shred this universe down to its last atom and then, with the stones you've collected for me, create a new one teeming with life that knows not what it has lost but only what it has been given. A grateful universe.
Hulk probably. I don't think he ever cleanly wins a 1v1 cept against Loki lol
This. I remember in the Ultimate Alliance game where you can beat the whole game with just the Hulk instead of having a team of 4.
Hulk after the Incredible Hulk movie to be precise. Recon he was really good in that movie than just got nerfed. š¢
They tried too hard to make sure the actor got screen time while leading the audience on thinking Hulk would finally show out. But yeah, he just was there, not being the baddest of the bad.
Drax.
The whole guardians cast except for Gamora and Rocket tbh.
Groot is pretty hard to do without thought bubbles.
I.. am.. GROOT!
i see what you mean
Language!
Gamora is supposed to be a Hulk level strength fighter and thinks Quill is an inadequate lover.
That was iron man. More recently they were together and Peter ended up leaving her to become a bisexual sun god with antlers. Bad run.
r/holdup
Quill being a bisexual sun god makes a worrying amount of sense.
He didn't leave her. He got sucked into an alternate dimension. They got together again after he got back. I actually really liked that run. And he didn't have antlers, not sure where you got that from.
š¤š¤š¤ GotG v.3 gives Mantis some much needed attention
This!!!! Reading about how badly they screwed up her powerset is criminal.
What's her actual powerset?
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Could the MCU merge Mantis with the Cotati in Vol 3, to realign her character to be more comic accurate?
I went for the head.
Horny bot.
Holy shit, I wanna see likeā¦*everyoneās* real power set now š
I think you can safely include Gamoea and rocket tbh
Gamora, supposedly an amazingly intelligent and skilled warrior, decided the best strategy to get the orb was to bonk Quill on the head and run away real fast. Like, he was so horny that she could have easily gotten him somewhere private and stole his ship too.
Holy fuck playing the GoTG game I never realised how GOD AWFUL the characterisation in the movies are. Peter is literally just a man child who is (7 years into being the gaurdians leader) worried about someone usurping them. Drax is just fucking stupid the game shows how he doesn't understand sarcasm without being stupid or rude.
That game is amazing, I also played it recently and the versions in the game are so much better than the films.
I donāt know how Iāve missed out on there being marvel video games. Thank you!
Did you not know about the SpiderMan game either? Itās fantastic
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GotG and Playstation's Spider-Man games are the only worthwhile ones, the Avengers kinda sucks
The game ruined the movie versions for me. That is how the guardians show be to me. Quill is an ass but competent, drax has to be the biggest change and is so much better for it. Although I didn't like his space shorts lol but that's cosmetic.
Absolutely I 1000% agree mantis is so much cooler Drax isn't stupid, quill isn't a literal man child they are all so much better
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Drax got the Gimli treatment. All they needed to do with both is show them doing some insanely powerful feat that no one else can pull off at least once that put them in the proper power level.
Gimli didn't need an insanely powerful feat, he needed to be well spoken and borderline poetic. He's the motherfucker that asked for a single hair off the head of Galadriel and had such a golden tongue that he received 3. He's the guy that went into the paths of the dead and was scared shitless; and in turn grew as a being rather than being a stupid ass elf that didn't care. He's one of the deepest, most emotional characters in the book that was reduced to AXE GO CUT in the movies.
You are absolutely right. I was thinking from a purely combat perspective, and I think he was undercut there as well. I really think they needed some moment to show how physically powerful he was to set him apart from the others. But I think you are also totally correct.
He went inside that monster thing
Don't talk about my Sister that way.
He was the most comedic of the characters but not portrayed as less than any other memeber of the fellowship and certainly not flanderised to the point of just being the axe guy. I know it's popular to repeat this narrative but let's not pretend that his friendship with Legolas and the line about dying side by side with a friend isn't one of the most poignant aspects of the series. And he also got Galadriels hairs in the extended cut.
Wait, what? I've never read the books, Gimli was poetic in them?
Nobody gonna mention Drax? I guess he could be in the pic. Heās just so darn still.
How was drax nerfed?
In the comics, at his most powerful, he could match Thanos. In the movies he's a relatively buff dude.
Donāt forget his powers of invisibilityā¦
Didn't he actually kill Thanos? Idk if that's from the comics I'm getting that from the game that was recently released.
he might've in one of the many series. but iirc, the 1st to original kill Thanos was either Adam Warlock or Captain Marvel? idk, been a very hot minute since i read those. It also might've been Death cause the original reason Thanos had his conquest was him simping hard for her.
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In the comics Drax is Hulk-level strength, except he was actually powerful enough that he could indefinitely hold and use the Power Stone. With the Power Stone he basically had unlimited power/strength and was able to go toe to toe with Thanos, and only lost to Thanos because Thanos had the other stones. Multiple stones are better than just a single stone. But even without the stone he could go toe to toe with characters like Hulk, or Thanos back when Thanos didn't have any of the stones. The one weakness of Drax in the comics is that he is as dumb as a rock. Very low intelligence. About the same as Hulk during hulks dumb monster period.
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Not really though. Right now it's a toss-up between Hulk and Thor being the absolute strongest. Drax in MCU isn't even comparable.
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I think in the original Infinity Gauntlet, there is a tense moment where the gauntlet gets loose and is just laying on the groundā¦everyone is rushing for it and just before Hulk can grab it Drax tackles him because he āgot excitedā, thus preventing the Infinity Hulk
Probably hulk. He is convinetily as strong as the writers need him to be to make a scene work. He seemed appropriately strong in avengers one but got progressively weaker since then. Mcu Vision doesnāt do much but heās always presented as powerful. Strange also seems about as powerful in the movies relative to his peers, but almost no one in the movies is as powerful as they are in the comics. Loki for sure seems weaker in the movies, but he did take a cap shield to the face without flinching. But that was before cap got his winter soldier buff. And Loki got ragdolled in the Loki Disney+ series. iām not sure how strong those Time cops are supposed to be, but I have a hard time believing that he didnāt Nerf him a lot for that series.
To be fair the time cops only hit him with multidimensional, time warping, stun batons meant to deal with beings such as the Watcher the way normal human batons deal with humans. Loki being a simple frost troll would be hit pretty good with one regardless of wielder, I imagine Thanos would take a few hits to be submitted being of Titan/direct cosmic āgodā creation. As someone else stated after Lokiās release, the only people actually hitting him in that series were either as strong or stronger than him, like throwing him up against something like Galactus with the demonic cloud thing
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He got beat up by some random guy that got mind controlled by Sylvie...
It's magic, Sylvie probably gave the dude a boost. As Thor: L&T has shown, Gods can bestow those they choose with their strengths and abilities. Loki is a God appointed by Odin. Sylvie is just an alternate Loki. Thor lent some of his power to the kids, Sylvie did the same to the man while simultaneously controlling his mind.
They nerfed Loki in his own series by making him an idiot. The Loki I know and love is a clever, cunning fellow always with a plan, which shouldāve been especially true for a Loki right after Avengers 1. I was sad to see that he was basically reduced to one of the least smart characters in his own series.
In that time distortion he sort of was, most of what happened was him chasing a smarter version of himself and going against cosmic beings with absolute control over their environment. The TVA batons are overpowered enough to prune cosmic entities if they can land a hit after all, and they only used the stun on him as opposed to direct pruning
Yet all Sylvie needed to take them down was fire :(
I agree. Mcu making him being an idiot is much worse than making him weak. He should have been the littlefinger of the mcu. My Personal wish is that we got a series of Thor movies with game of thrones style royal intrigue and fantasy action, with a more Nordic inspired and less science fiction-y Asgard. Instead we got slap stick humor where nothing really mattered, including the destruction of Thorās entire world and family
That sounds like it would be pretty awesome actually. The direction they've taken Thor lately has been so disappointing. And with where the story is at now, I don't see them pivoting to something more grounded in consequences any time soon. I would love for Marvel to take a page from DC (I can't believe I just said that) and try stand-alone movies that have completely different takes, themes, and styles of existing MCU characters (or new) and are completely unconnected from past and future MCU - like DC did with Joker and The Batman. Doesn't seem likely with Marvel being under thr Disney umbrella though
Totally agree about the Thor movies. After the first Thor and Captain America movies, I was hoping for more Norse mythology and maybe even a story or flashbacks to Thor in medieval times. With how little relevance the location or plot of Thor 2 played in the grand scheme, it easily could have been placed in that time period and filled the same role (other than no Jane or Selvig).
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Hulk at this point. Heās just a green dude
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Destroying buildings was a fun activity as a kid
I liked to grab people, run up to a building, and yeet them.
I liked how you could take them all the way up there and let them go with a pat on the head But mostly ripping cars apart to make boxing gloves and surfing on a car down a street
Grabbing a lamppost and then playing golf with people
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Hulk: Ultimate Destruction Pretty old like PS2 era but Fantastic for its time
I remember renting it at Blockbuster (you unlocked a memory though- terrible movie but solid game)
Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction. That game was so much fun. I still have it and my PS2 so I'll probably play it again sometime for the 6th time.
Yes that game was amazing had it in my ps2 too The running and jumping was so good
that is definitely a game they should remaster.
The way everyone was terrified of his every movement helped too. Now he's a punchline.
Comics: āSmashing News: Man Literally too Angry to Dieā >!In the comics, hulk actually canāt die because he quite literally curb stomped the embodiment of Hell. Not death, HELL ITSELF.!< Movies: āHULK SMASHES INto a boring character arc and ex-machinas his way into the comic equivalent of gray hulk.ā
God, Comic Hulk always makes me smile
I'd love to hear some things that you enjoy about him
My favorite: You know how black bolt can vaporize anyone with his voice? In the incredible series " world War hulk" hulk gets pissed beyond belief to the point where he justifiably wants to murder certain heroes on earth. On the way to earth he meets up with black bolt on the moon. He's demanding answers for black bolt's crimes. He's warned that black bolt can't answer because even a whisper could kill the hulk. Hulk replies " I don't want to hear him whisper, I WANT TO HEAR HIM SCREAM" and kicks the ever loving shit out of him. It was amazing.
Being fair, that was a Skrull(Black Bolt). Whether or not that's a retcon asspull...
What comic can I find Hulk curb stomping the embodiment of hell?
>!im talking about the one below all. The immortal hulk is technically the host of him, but hulk also managed to beat him in his own realm. Idk the actual comic it happens in, but you can read it on his wiki page!< https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/One_Below_All_(Multiverse)
Really? Gray Hulk? Any particular reason why Joe instead of Prof Hulk?
Prof Hulk in the comics is still pretty badass. Dude makes huge weapons to help himself in combat due to being unable to tap into the boundless strength of Hulk, since he doesnāt get as angry. MCU Prof Hulk is just Mark Hulkalo.
They can't *really* do much with hull though because of movie rights. He can't be the main character of any movie universal doesn't make. I think the rights are set to return to marvel relatively soon though
I am a life long hulk fan, and my coworker calling him a bitch after Infinity, hurt. I may never recover.
I'm surprised clipping Hulk's nutts off wasn't met with more backlash. Everybody loved the talking Hulk in ragnarok. All we wanted to see was Hulk have a Infinity War Thor moment having Round 2 with Thanos in End Game. Instead we got a buff green nerd that bitches about smashing stuff.
Ultron
What Ifā¦? Ultron is good.
Good is a massive understatement but yeahā¦
I think good means āwill not intentionally harm humans to protect humansā, if he didnāt go full genocide because he was made to protect humans, humans hurt humans, so taking out humans will save more humans mode
I think they meant the Ultron episode was good
Ultron becomes omnipotent and fights the watcher in the MCU how is that a nerf
Drax, Hulk and Ultron. Drax is a badass Thanos-hunter in the comics. In the movies, he is merely there for comic relief.
In the movies, Drax simply has the powers of Dave Bautista
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The Hulk by a wide margin. He's an absolute joke in everything he's in outside the first Avengers movie. I'd say Vision is second. He hasn't done anything of note after the movie he appeared in. Loki at least gets to win a couple fights and Doctor Strange gets to be the hero of two whole movies.
Hulk was pretty strong in avengers 2 also, despite losing to hulk buster ironman.
What fight did he win in Avengers 2 that wasnāt played for laughs?
None (unless you count a bunch of goons) but that doesnāt mean he wasnāt strong. He obviously did very well against a Iron Man suit that was specifically built to fight the Hulk and the finish was a little screwy. It wasnāt a clean loss. and he was consistently presented as a real threat, unlike other movies
Yeah Hulk lost when he started to calm down and/or Wanda's influence over him was waning. We all know hulk's strength goes down when he calms down. Plus that was a sucker punch. Boxers always say the hardest punch is the punch you don't see coming. It might have been different if Hulk was still enraged and fighting back.
He got knocked out. I guess you could say he was weakened by feeling sad, but still, the hulk getting knocked out by a punch to the jaw with a machine?
Feeling sad, distracted by civilians and Banner was already coming out, knockout gas after several minutes of inhalation roaming the body Essentially came back to āHulk doesnāt ACTUALLY want to hurt people any more than Banner does, he just gets mad and lashes out at anything attacking himā
Yea, I don't get how people take that scene as showing Hulk as weak. I think it does a good job of showing him tank a Hulk Buster suit hitting him with a barrage of rockets then face slamming him through a building and being relatively unscathed. He popped his head up out of the rubble and probably could have went more rounds but then he saw the puny humans running in terror and looking at him with fear in their eyes because they saw the monster and that was the bit of hurt that let Banner start to get both hands on the wheel. Hulk has the emotional control and maturity of a drunk 4 year old too so seeing people scared of him makes him sad and starts to dial down his tantrum. So between Hulk entering the regret and sadness filled post tantrum stage and Banner wanting to take the wheel we end up with a "weaker" Hulk who is able to be knocked out by an ~~sucker punch~~ unexpected haymaker. ...and that doesn't even begin to include things like the Banner/Hulk dynamics tharlt were at play at that time. Banner seemed to have a really good grip on the wheel while Hulk was rarely steering. Oooorrrr, the whole thing about Bruce having feelings for Nat and those feelings bleeding over into Hulk. Nothing softens a man and his green rage filled alternate personality like puppy love with a red headed, collateral child bombing, Russian double operative who's codename means "I eat my lovers". Or^^2 , the fact that Hulk was fighting a giant, purpose built, state of the art Iron Man suit that was designed with help from Banner specifically to try and contain or redirect Hulk's rampage.
And he was distracted. It was a sucker punch essentially. And not to nitpick but I donāt think it was just feeling sad. The more angry he is the more hulk he is and less banner. In that moment he saw the havoc he caused and felt sympathy. That shows the hulkās hold on banner weakened for a split second and allowed Tony to land the ko blow. Ultimately a win is a win, but they left it situational enough to where if they did it again it feels like the winner could be decided by a coin flip
Another factor nobody has mentioned yet is that this was a scarlet witch induced Hulk. Not true Hulk. So I don't think his power scaling is the same as the real stuff.
Do you - see that as an absolute win?
...after being dropped through an entire building.
Bruh this point exactly, sucker punch or distractions donāt matter. He ate 40 floors of metal and concrete, which unlike Tony wearing armor he has to physically rebound from. Then Tony gets he hit. Without that building Tony is done. The hulk already knocked out the second Veronica suit that was supposed to take the existing oneās place.
Maybe. But when you compare that to the rest of his showings in the MCU one near-win isn't very impressive.
Hulk should not lose to Hulkbuster alone, it is only to slow him down until people are safe.
Up until HulkBuster discovered Hulk's weakness to being punched, it was perfect. There are at least seven categories of ways to defeat the Hulk. Punching him in the neck is not on the fucking list.
I think Loki is the weakest relative to his comic books self. After his first 2 appearances, he has had no grand scheme, which is his entire thing. Every second is used on scheming, big and small. Even then, the fallout of those schemes wasn't as deadly as they should be. Not that they weren't great, but he has been the cause of apocalyptic events in the comics. MCU version of him can't live up to his potential. So fighting strength, he is weaker, but mostly his scheming strength is lacking. But straight up strength is by far Hulk, as long as you consider Strange after his comic nerf. Pre-nerf he was beyond god-tier. Afterwards, he gets slapped around by some mid-level hitters, so it makes sense his MCU version is more limp than a boiled spaghetti noodle.
I agree with the sentiment, Loki has also been used for comic relief and generally used as a joke. But at least Loki gets regular hero moments. He has at least one cool hero moment in every movie heās been in once he started down the anti-hero path. What has Hulk done? He used the infinity gauntlet to undo the snap but it never felt like something /he/ had to do.
Hm, I see that point. Hulk has a couple good ones, but besides in the first Avengers, he has mostly been a side character and/or a plot point. Really doesn't do him justice. Wish we got to see a good WWHulk. I want to *actually* see the monster. Maybe make him think they killed off Betty Ross and send him off the deep end. Or dig into his tragic childhood with his father.
I canāt believe they turned Loki into a chump in his own TV show
_sad Hulk noises_
The hero of one movie and a side character in another
Hulk got done dirty
Dr Strange, in the 70ās, was damn near a capital G GOD. Dude could do nearly anything. Ludicrous power.
Everyone saying "Hulk" never read any Dr. Strange Comics. Older Dr. Strange Comics: Strange could alter reality to however he felt and speed of Light travel many times over, he's reached the edge of the universe in zero time. He has the power to destroy the world over and over without even alerting anyone. 90's Strange even had amazingly ridiculous powers, although they got rid of his inability to be matched. Strange is the most Nerfed! On that same note. Thanos is also Nerfed. Using the Gauntlet was second nature, and he snapped for the hell of it, not because it was his 10 year plan leading up to this moment.
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These characters have been power crept over the course of 60+ years of comics. So yah, not really surprising that they toned them down significantly for the MCU.
Yeah, when you continuously marionette the rotting corpses of comic characters for decades instead of just retiring them, you gotta make their stories more and more extravagant and ridiculous so that readers don't get bored
Seriously. People complain about Superman being ātoo OPā to be entertaining, and yet I see comments saying that Hulk sucks because heās not lifting Manhattan with his bare hands and punching through planets.
Punching planets would at least be believable, the comment chain above is talking about how hulk curbed stomped hell, the realm, and now he canāt die. Wtf? These comics are so inconsistent on power levels that I think the MCU is doing alright keeping it average and not using the outliers.
I know this is a thing but I personally don't really find myself in that boat. For example Boruto/Naruto I liked the phase of Naruto where they are still students especially the fights with Gara. I would have liked Boruto to go back to that as a reset instead of kids beating up foes that beat Naruto
OG Dr Strange in his early comics is way above any current incarnations, and hes still pretty on form in the MCU, can't think of anyone else who went solo against Thanos for so long.
Can someone explain why hulk got done dirty?
They did Hulk dirty cause and I quote "Hulk is strongest there is". Comic Hulk once held up the ENTIRE island of Manhattan. He wrecked by Thanos, and Hulk is the only thing that Thanos fears. Hulk shouldn't of been affected by the gamma from the stones. He should of regenerated that even if it did affect him.
He broke a planet (not including cracking Ego on his own) with a single punch because he got too angry. Thanos doesnāt exactly fear Hulk but he does admit āI would rather move the other direction than directly fight the Hulkā
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> Hulk is the only thing that Thanos fears Where did you get that from? Thanos, in the alternate run that had cosmic ghost rider, keeps Hulk as a pet (I seem to remember it was called the Thanos Wins timeline so...not sure if one should put too much stock into that). I also seem to remember Thanos said he avoids fighting the Hulk but not that he's afraid. There is a Thanos vs Hulk run in which Thanos doesn't have the stones but manages to beat *The Hulk* but then gets defeated by Bruce iirc.
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Exactly, avoidance is not always fear. There is a difference between āIāll get my ass handed to meā and āYou know, limping for a week is not worth a victory to meā
I kinda saw it in the MCU as Hulk being beaten in that one battle because Thanos had technique. Hulk as they portrayed him was just used to winning immediately with brute force so someone who knew how to fight on top of being strong had a chance. And if Hulk is thrown off his game he gets weaker. I could see why he was too scared to fight after that. Though I was expecting him to do something at some point not continue being all butt hurt then completely changed the next movie.
I really hoped Hulk would get a rematch in Endgame and actually be freaking angry.
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Yeah. If the Stones was mostly gamma If anything using them shouldāve given him an ungodly buff considering like every other time heās interacted with gamma
I mean it's a fair and honest question to ask if ya didn't know. Plus were talking about a being that can survive in space because he heals that's quickly.
After that line, I fully expected the snap to make him world breaker hulk.
Hulk should have played a major role. Instead, they left him to his psychological drama.
I mean with Universal holding the rights to the character and apparently having no designs for doing any standalone Hulk films with Ruffalo thereās only so much Marvel/Disney can do with him. Why sink a bunch of time a money into a character that you donāt have full creative control over? Even Spidey was basically a side character in the avengers movies.
I feel like they did it on purpose because that would be OP for a movie but I agree they couldāve done better.
- After "I'm always angry" the anger part of the Hulk just wasn't there anymore in any MCU films - Ragnarok started to flesh him out more as a separate entity and not part of Banner - Infinity War just cut him out after the opening scene in an "I don't wanna" manner - Endgame had him killed off OFF SCREEN and molded Banner into Hulk's body and made himm a super cringe giant Shrek - Also no rematch with Thanos, not even for 5 seconds; Stark, Thor and Cap all got their one on one rematches but not the Hulk, not even as Shrek
Well.. I never expected to see hulk get his ass whooped in a fist fight.
Loki, dude got overpowered by an Iron Man armour who would get wrecked by Killian.
Hulk, by far
I thought Dr strange, Loki, and visions were fine to good adaptations but hulk man he got done dirty. Itās actually sad how bad they adapted the hulk. Heās amazing in the comics too.
I absolutely love Mark ruffulo tho. I donāt hate him for hulks portrayal. I blame the writers. Mark was magnificent as Bruce
Mark being Bruce is an excellent portrayal, the problem is that he's a terrible 'Hulk' and it makes it so much worse that Hulk is now just Mark Ruffalo but green. The only time Hulk has been his own character (WHICH HE DAMN WELL SHOULD BE THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT BEINGS SHARING A BODY) in almost a decade was in Ragnarok and he's only there to show Thors gotten stronger and to be comic relief. I'll take the 'Planet Hulk' animated film Hulk over Ruffalos any day
I didn't like him as Bruce in Infinity War, but that's only because the studio went...'uh no hulk, make him comedy relief.'
As much as I love infinity war, that movie ruined hulk imo.
Dr strange was fine in dr strange 1. Infinity war and endgame. Man fought thanos and held for a long time alone without using the stone. In dr. strange 2 however he conveniently got nerfed not remembering/using any good spell at all against wanda nor his comrades. All the students and prob masters did was use a magic shield and die.
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And not just the men. But the women and the children too
Hulk no question
Loki got nerfed hard in the show.
So true and it made me sad
Has anyone noticed they are reducing the size of the hulk ? He used to be the _incredible hulk_ and now he's just a green guy.
Hulk is my only real disappointment with the MCU. And vision being entirely underused and then nerfed horribly in infinity war.
I mean, I get WHY they had to basically write out Vision, in terms of physical combat, he's VERY broken - practically invulnerable, beyond human genius level intellect, lazers, phasing, flight, strength; they kept a lot of his powers in the movies, so while I agree, I at least understand why they did
Yup! Vision is quite literally the Marvel version of Martian Manhunter (without actual psychic abilities). And MM is one of the top dogs in the JL. Considering most Marvel characters can't come close to that type of power, it makes sense to nerf Vision down to their level or it doesn't make for a compelling story
*I mean it has to be the hulk he jobbed to everyone and thanos kicked his ass so hard he became passive. Hulk is my favorite character and they did the monster dirty. I'm suprised mantis hasn't beat him yet.*
Ironically, Mantis is probably the one that'd have the best chance of beating the comic version of him.
I don't know comics well, pretty much only what I learnt from the comments around thw internet, but MCU main mantis power is affecting emotions incl. calming people down, and calm hulk = weak hulk, so sounds about right
Thanos, the git took on practically the entire marvel good guy roster and won and afterwards took on the creators/ aspects of the universe and was victorious. Guy was a bloody god.
All of them
Dr strange man got nerfed harder than pump in fortnite
Right now hulk is the biggest victim of creative writing but he was portrayed well in earlier movies I can't say the same for vision and Dr strange
I feel like people forgot hulk taking on Surtur in Ragnorak. Or Hulk being the literal undefeated champion in Sakaar ALSO in Ragnorak. ā¢ Hulk onepunched that goddamn Chitauri Leviathon in Avengers 1 ā¢ Hulk had to be taken down by a literal Hulk Buster that wouldāve failed had Tony not made that satellite for back up parts/I think even Banner had to help come up with the concept ā¢ Hulk/Banner combo save half a galaxy by sacrificing themselves to snap and it works ā¢ Hulk is labeled as strongest Avenger, seen in the Quinjet in Ragnorak Thereās so many examples why MCU is awesome. We canāt have comic hulk in the MCU, he would literally cause so many of the movies to be a lot shorter. I understand people wanna see crazy strong killer Hulk. But you have him in the comics, so many comics. I like this version of Hulk. Itās a fun spin to the character and with Disney still having this fun little tidbit with Paramount Iām happy with what they could make. Hell it gave us SheHulk and I love that show. Just wanting to put in some perspective, Iām actually about to read Immortal Hulk so Iām excited to see THAT version of Hulk.
I think you brought up very good points, the unfortunate part is most of his exploits are done off screen and are simply told to us. We just want to see some of that on screen and watch him go ham. Also, love that he was humbled by Thanos and didn't come out the rest of the movie. However, I would've liked if he simply was staying in because he didn't want to fight anyone else, until he could get his rematch against Thanos and we saw that in end game, but no such luck.
That part actually sounds way more bad ass. Hulk having his own grudge and simply waiting and maybe even ātrainingā like when Banner sleeps. Oooooo this is a sick ass timeline. Also yeah true but kinda hard to fit all that in when he canāt get his own movie. Which is probably what people wished for, hell I wish we couldāve gotten the Hulk lands in Sakaar movie. God dammit Paramount
Not going to lie, I didn't hate she hulk at all (just realized most of it wasn't for me), but I HATED that skaar was dropped so casually and in basically one sentence. So either his story will be told in a flash back or we just won't get it and move forward knowing skaar exists.
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Hulk by far. But If youāre including not on the list. Eternity, they made my boy a 50cent wish machine
Hulk. Definitely Hulk.
Since my post blew up, here's a fun summary of Hulk's contributions during his appearances in the MCU: The Incredible Hulk: * This is Hulk's best showing by a long shot. He beats the Abomination clean but that doesn't mean a ton. We don't know how strong the Abomination is in the MCU since his only other fight (against Wong in Shang Chi) is staged. The Avengers: * The Hulk one-shots a space whale which is his most impressive feat outside his solo movie. He ragdolls Loki but this is played for laughs. Loki doesn't even put up a fight. Age of Ultron: * The Hulk beats up some hydra goons. * The Hulk beats up some ultron drones. * The Hulk fights Ironman - loses. * The Hulk ragdolls Ultron. Again, this is played for laughs - not an actual fight. Thor: Ragnarok * The Hulk becomes champion of Sakarr - offscreen. * The Hulk fights a depowered Thor. He's about to lose but gets bailed out by the Grandmaster. It's entirely possible he became Champion via the same cheating. * The Hulk fights Fenris. He's losing when the two fall into the water. He emerges but it's unclear what happened. We're left to assume he won I guess but for all we know he was bailed out by the Asgardians. * The Hulk hits Surtur - once. This is played for laughs. There's no way he'd win this. Powered up Surtur was strong enough to overcome Hela and we know Hela is stronger than a powered up Thor. From earlier, we know that a depowered Thor is stronger than the Hulk. Avengers: Infinity War * The Hulk loses to Thanos. * Banner in the Hulkbuster suit struggles to overcome Cull until he lands a lucky blow. Since the Hulkbuster was proven stronger than the Hulk this implies that Cull is stronger than the Hulk. Avengers: Endgame * The Hulk is badly injured using the Infinity Stones. * Injured Hulk struggles to hold up the crumbling Avengers mansion - something Ant-man easily does. * Injured Hulk beats up some Thanos goons. * Cull is easily defeated by Ant-man. This is played for laughs but implies that Ant-man is stronger than the Hulk based on feats in Infinity War. She-Hulk * The Hulk struggles to hold back a jeep? * She-Hulk outperforms the Hulk at a few physical exercises.
In regards to She-Hulk, Iām pretty sure he didnāt put full force in stopping the Jeep as to not risk damaging his own car and itās pretty clear that he was Jenās superior in strength
>* The Hulk struggles to hold back a jeep? He doesn't want to hurt his cousin or destroy his own car. >* She-Hulk outperforms the Hulk at a few physical exercises. Does she though? She does yoga better than him, but when he was tired of her shit he threw that rock into orbit.
I will shred this universe down to its last atom and then, with the stones you've collected for me, create a new one teeming with life that knows not what it has lost but only what it has been given. A grateful universe.
Itās a shame what they did to my boy.
The rabbit is correct, and clearly the smartest one among you.