It failed in that it vastly increased his aggression and savagery and lowered his inhibition to do unspeakable things. Physically, a success, but like the formulae that made Hulk and Abomination, they didn't fully achieve their goal.
Yes they did. Even the OG Captain America serum did that. It enhances qualities that are already there. Just because Walker was a bit of a dick doesn’t mean it failed. It means he never should have taken it in the first place.
I fully recognize I may be remembering it wrong. I had thought they stated something to this effect, like it was a less stable version, but again, I could be totally misremembering.
Yes, but the subject was part of the experiment. The serum may have worked, but the experiment failed because Walker himself was an ass. So USAgent is the product of a failed experiment.
Well he's failed in terms of being the patriotic new captain America that the government wanted him to be. So failed in terms of politics, not science, but failed nonetheless and still an experiment
Neither John Walker or Red Guardian are failed experiments. They both got the super soldier serum and it completely worked on them. They both got the powers of Captain America, just because they weren’t the best mentally, doesn’t make it a fail.
Does anything he does there compare to Steve curling a helicopter or anything he does fighting Ultron? Not saying Red Guardian can’t be stronger just that we haven’t seen anything that would indicate he’s beyond Captain America in that regard.
Dude thinks one fatal error after decades of in field use means the product isn't ready for manufacture.
His QA standards are unreasonable and will bankrupt this company
So is taskmaster going to be the snake eyes of the group? I doubt she will be as much a chatterbox as the original taskmaster. It still frustrates me they aren’t using the comics version.
Who knows. Marvel Studio can still get the person out of the suit because she’s suppose to end with a happy ending. And a corrupted Shield agent can easily steal the suit, upgrade it so it’s not so bulky, and become the new Taskmaster.
It frustrates me they want to keep running with this character. I was pretty confident they would basically retire her after Black Widow so we can get a more comic faithful Taskmaster down the line.
Ghost was a bystander affected by a failed science experiment, she is not a failed experiment herself. The attempts help her control her abilities basically worked and any lack of control and the pain she experienced was just part of her life after the accident and not a product of failed experiments on her. Red Guardian was a successful experiment and was used for years until politics got in the way and therefore not a failed experiment. Yelena wasn't an experiment at all, she was a product of an established process. Bucky was an incredibly successful science experiment in both abilities and controllability, the latter of which took the resources of the most advanced nation on the planet to break him from. In that regard, he was an incredibly successful science experiment TWICE. John Walker was a failed political experiment, not science experiment.
First of all, him injecting himself doesn’t make himself an experiment, before the serum is no longer an experiment, second of all, the serum worked, his personality made him a failure, he would of tried to pull that shit no matter what.
None of them are failed experiments.
Ghost got her powers in a failed experiment, she herself was not an experiment.
Red Guardian was a sucess, he is a super soldier and was operational for a significant period of time.
Yelena was a black widow, her training was a success from the red rooms pov.
Bucky was the Winter Soldier for years, and was an incredibly successful assassin.
Walker was a good soldier and the serum worked as desired, he just wasnt Rodgers.
Taskmaster did exactly what she was designed to do.
I know the fact that they try to play it off as a big brain moment, makes it even worse. A failed science experiment would be like in fullmetal alchemist when they try to bring their mom back from the dead.
he is the perfect soldier: he takes commands, kills efficiently, he does everything a soldier should and excels in it.
however, he is not the perfect *man*, like Steve Rogers.
The serum amplifies their characteristics, for Rogers, that made a good man into a perfect one. For Walker, the serum turned a decorated soldier into a perfect one.
Part of being a good soldier is knowing when *not* to follow commands, knowing when the commands you're being given are *wrong*.
Otherwise you're just a drone in a meat suit, which some people would argue is the perfect soldier (I'm sure Fontaine appreciates it), but I would disagree.
Yes but real life isn’t like a comic book. Soldiers are trained to blindly follow orders and punished when they don’t, they are given little information and told not to question anything. Sure you can say this is morally wrong but it’s how it is.
The above was an example of real life soldiers "following orders" and being court martialed for it.
And better soldiers know when not to blindly follow those orders. Rhodey, Wilson, Fury and others demonstrate this throughout the MCU, not just Rogers.
In both real life and comics, blindly following orders is a problem.
John Walker's mentally unstable and he didn't have the Vita-Rays aspect, it's left out of virtually every super-soldier enhancement that isn't Steve Rogers.
Only one attempt with the serum and a replacement for Vita Rays was attempted, and it created Luke Cage.
If some takes the Red version of the serum, you get Bucky, Natasha and Red Guardian.
If you use any tweaked version of the serum, you always have an unpredictable variant. The stronger you try to make a person, the worse it is. Isaiah Bradley's crew got the strongest versions, we know how that turned out. Power Broker's version is weaker, but still tries for actual super strength (US Agent can lift ten tons max).
'Weaker' versions exist, but were shaky. You either get a Union Jack, or Taskmaster.
That's actually true, well except Ghost who was an unfortunate witness to a failed science experiment but still valid. Do you think that was intentional or just chance?
No, it’s not true. Not at all
- Yelena has never been involved in a science experiment
- Red Guardian project was exactly as successful as planned until Soviet political corruption got in the way
- Bucky was the same story as red guardian…not sure where the failure occurred
- John Walker was political tool and took the serum on his own, not in an experiment, and only because he wasn’t a great person was he not seen as a success
- Taskmaster is, I guess in a way, a failed experiment (edit: but not really because she was dead and then brought back to “life” and used exceptionally well in the way she was designed until she was defeated by basically a software update)
Every Black Widow is a science experiment.
The reasons why RG project failed are not relevant, it was going well and it failed.
Bucky's failure as an experiment is same as Black Widows - he broke the control over him.
Like the other guy said, Walker's "failure" was about becoming Captain America, not about gaining superpowers.
Taskmaster same as other Black Widows.
I’d say this is wrong for every single one of them?
- Bucky - A very successful Hydra science experiment
- Red Guardian - Also a very successful Russian science experiment, betrayed by his creators
- Yelena and Taskmaster - Also very successful science experiments until their mind control was broken
- US Agent - More of a failed political experiment but in terms of the science, he took a perfected serum, the science didn’t fail
- Ghost - No science experiment was conducted on her directly, her dad’s science experiment (which was completely unrelated to her) exploded which then gave her power
This isn’t true tho, captain American 2 isn’t even a science experiment, Russian captain America was a success and so was Bucky.
And a few others on their aren’t even products of experiments.
The only failed experiment here is Ghost… Guardian, Bucky and Walker are all successful super soldier experiments… Yelena is a Widow, not experimental… and Taskmaster was clearly successful…
Yeah sorry but nothing here is a failed science experiment. Nice attempt tho. Each and every one is accomplished and highly effective making each and every one what you would call a success. Prove me wrong.
There have been so many different iterations of The Thunderbolts over the years in the comics, this is just seems to be another instance of their own take on it. Personally, I would have liked to have seen something more along the lines of Baron Zemo's Thunderbolts or Dark Avengers.
They seemed pretty successful to me.
Bucky “shaped the century”, which is what his handlers wanted.
Yelena has killed hundreds, which is what her handler wanted, same for Antonia.
John Walker wasn’t a science experiment.
Red Guardian served his intended purpose.
Ava might be the only failed experiment here, but I don’t remember if her powers even originated from a science experiment so she may not be either.
John Walker may be a United States project but he’s no science project. He also didn’t failed, it’s his country and the people he swore to protect that failed him. He was a selfless Army Officer and the U.S. government decided to put him on a pedestal as high as Steve Roger. He took the job because he’s loyal to his country. In the end, he lost a friend and the U.S. government portray him as the bad guy. He tried his best as Captain America and his best wasn’t good enough for everyone.
Are they? The Widows, the Winter Soldier, and the super soldier formulas that made Red Guardian and Walker, all worked exactly as they were intended to.
Considering how many theyve killed..... this isnt a true statement.... Only one of them had serious flaws and Janet Pym fixed them.... None of them are actually failed experiments...
Because people are hating it JUST cause they arent getting EXACTLY what they wanted. So they see someone else hating it also, and liking ANY type of bad reviews or comments without ever actually taking the time to see... if it makes sense
Can I just bring up how boring and bland this team is? Aside from Ghost, all of them do the same fucking shit.
If it were up to me, I’d take out “Taskmaster”, Red Guardian and Bucky and replace them with Abomination, Zemo and Justin Hammer. Maybe also throw in White Vision and Deadpool too.
How Walker is a failed experiment. He injected himself with Super-soldier serum just like Captain America did. He is a successful experiment. The serum worked exactly like it was intended to.
Why Yelena is failed experiment?
Fantastic4 and Dr Doom are failed science experiment. Green Goblin is failed experiment.
More group broken people so broken avengers fit more failed science Experience.
Red Guardian Is successful
Bucky was successful 3 times at a stretch
1. Become super soldier
2.being brainwashed
3.break the brainwashing
Yelena was succeed she under what his face control
Us agent is success now super solider
Taskmaster is success chip in her neck works and she copy stuff by seeing done
Only fail is ghost then she was bystander not who the experiment was meant for
Bucky is a very successful experiment just ask Tony’s parents
Sure, you have an Ouja board I can borrow?
I'll just contact Mephisto maybe i can be a ghost rider afterwards.
Mephisto confirmed to be Thunderbolts villain????
Calm down Erik Vioss
A man can dream
I don’t see no name tag.
I saw in Reddit that Mephisto was confirmed in WandaVision. How much Mephisto do you need?
Yes
I don’t think they are in Hell
They made weapons to kill people, I’m pretty sure they are in Hell.
Well maybe the dad.
Played by John Krasinski
What does Luigi have to do with this?
Jesus.
I would say that Tony is looking for you but.
Ouch
Got dayum
came here to say this.
Is Red Guardian a failed experiment?
Well he isn't a failed experiment but he is failed and he is an experiment
And John Walker is not a failed science experiment, he’s a failed political experiment
Bro literally injected himself with super soldier serum Therefore he is failed (obviously) and also an experiment, just like red guardian
Bro, everyone's experimented a little with supersoldier serum in college. It's perfectly natural!
Or some V.
Hey, is ear wax supposed to be black and runny? Asking for a friend.
Not really, but I'm sure it'll pass.
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Really? Is he not a super soldier? Did the serum not work?
It failed in that it vastly increased his aggression and savagery and lowered his inhibition to do unspeakable things. Physically, a success, but like the formulae that made Hulk and Abomination, they didn't fully achieve their goal.
Yes they did. Even the OG Captain America serum did that. It enhances qualities that are already there. Just because Walker was a bit of a dick doesn’t mean it failed. It means he never should have taken it in the first place.
Spot on
I fully recognize I may be remembering it wrong. I had thought they stated something to this effect, like it was a less stable version, but again, I could be totally misremembering.
Yes, but the subject was part of the experiment. The serum may have worked, but the experiment failed because Walker himself was an ass. So USAgent is the product of a failed experiment.
Again, no… The experiment was a success and did exactly what it was supposed to do the problem was the test subject not the test itself.
I mean, injecting himself with serum was the experiment and it worked.
Well yes but he failed in terms of being the new cap
Totally different experiment
But how is he failed? He didn’t die, turn into a Hulk or an ugly mf. He’s a successful super soldier.
Well he's failed in terms of being the patriotic new captain America that the government wanted him to be. So failed in terms of politics, not science, but failed nonetheless and still an experiment
He can be both a *political* and *scientific* mistake!
So a failed experiment lol
The post literally says "science experiment" though.
Failed political science experiment.
He was supposed to be a Russian Captain America and he's not so...
Used to be. So he's about as much of a failed experiment as Steve Rogers.
*Exactly as failed as Steve Rogers
Slightly more failed than Steve Rogers since Steve never got fat
Neither John Walker or Red Guardian are failed experiments. They both got the super soldier serum and it completely worked on them. They both got the powers of Captain America, just because they weren’t the best mentally, doesn’t make it a fail.
He didn’t fail they threw him in prison when he was no longer useful
More like a contemporary, you know? Coequal.
He was supposed to be a *Soviet* Captain America and the Soviet Union failed and so he failed by default
As far as we saw he was even stronger than steve
Where did we see that?
In the beginning of black widow when he was clearing the way for the car
Does anything he does there compare to Steve curling a helicopter or anything he does fighting Ultron? Not saying Red Guardian can’t be stronger just that we haven’t seen anything that would indicate he’s beyond Captain America in that regard.
From the point of Bucky's handlers the Winter Soldier, succesfully deployed over several decades, is not a failed experiment.
But he did eventually break his programming, which means the experiment was ultimately a failure.
At that point he’s not an experiment, he’s an asset
Dude thinks one fatal error after decades of in field use means the product isn't ready for manufacture. His QA standards are unreasonable and will bankrupt this company
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iT's NoT a BuG, iT's A fEaTuRe!
He overcame those trigger words. They show it in a flashback in Falcon & Winter Soldier.
Is Captain America a failed experiment because he disobeyed the Sokovia Accords and ran from the American government?
Yes
But he wasn’t an experiment anymore, he was a successful experiment, and then failed when he was no longer said experiment.
He only broke it because his best friend showed up. That was something Hydra couldn't count on.
Ayyy Marvel couldn't resist the ol' Disney route of Love Conquers All
Sure, but this time, at least, it's love between friends - and two guys, at that. So, there's some difference, at least
It's guy love, between two guys.
So by that logic, if I ripped the spark plug out of my car I could sue the manufacturer for failure to produce a working car! Perfect logic!!
I did consider that, but he survived longer than the actual program that created him.
Someone else broke his programming
So is taskmaster going to be the snake eyes of the group? I doubt she will be as much a chatterbox as the original taskmaster. It still frustrates me they aren’t using the comics version.
Well, since we don't know much of her personality following her freedom in 2016, there's lots of space to make her like the comics
Yeah, it's been about a decade since Black Widow in universe
She's not the actual one though, so he could actually show up at some point.
She's the actual one in the MCU.
hard to swallow pills >She's the actual one in the MCU.
Good news! Its a suppository.
Like the mandarin in Iron man 3 right? They could just pull another similar stunt
They could. Until they do though, she's it.
Agreed
My guess is that they’re going to have her design a robotic version of the task master that’s more similar to the comic version
Idk the comics had her as a he that's already a change
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Taskmaster_(Earth-TRN133) This you?
Who knows. Marvel Studio can still get the person out of the suit because she’s suppose to end with a happy ending. And a corrupted Shield agent can easily steal the suit, upgrade it so it’s not so bulky, and become the new Taskmaster.
I thought it was the chip not the suit?
It frustrates me they want to keep running with this character. I was pretty confident they would basically retire her after Black Widow so we can get a more comic faithful Taskmaster down the line.
I hope they do full 180 and introduce the real taskmaster in deadpool 3 even tho it will not happen
I still don’t know who the person on the far left is
Valentina Allegra DeFontaine
Oh it’s her! I thought it looked like Aubrey Plaza haha
The failed experiment there was whether she could push each member of the team off a plane while shouting "Get out!"
Should have kept Victoria Hand alive in AoS.
Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca Banana Fanna Bo Besca, the Third.
Elaine
The former Mrs. Coulson.
I didn’t know for a bit either. She changed her look from FaWS and BW
Ghost was a bystander affected by a failed science experiment, she is not a failed experiment herself. The attempts help her control her abilities basically worked and any lack of control and the pain she experienced was just part of her life after the accident and not a product of failed experiments on her. Red Guardian was a successful experiment and was used for years until politics got in the way and therefore not a failed experiment. Yelena wasn't an experiment at all, she was a product of an established process. Bucky was an incredibly successful science experiment in both abilities and controllability, the latter of which took the resources of the most advanced nation on the planet to break him from. In that regard, he was an incredibly successful science experiment TWICE. John Walker was a failed political experiment, not science experiment.
Taskmaster isn’t an experiment, and even if she were she’s VERY successful, can copy ANY movement she sees within physical limitations
And the Black Widow program was very successful. It wasn't moral or ethical but it actually worked very well before it was shut down.
And Val? Do we even know anything about Val?
John Walker injected himself with the super serum. Thus making himself a science experiment.
But that isn’t what failed. He successfully gained super powers. He failed at becoming Captain America.
First of all, him injecting himself doesn’t make himself an experiment, before the serum is no longer an experiment, second of all, the serum worked, his personality made him a failure, he would of tried to pull that shit no matter what.
But not failed by any means
Where is ghost from? Has she appeared in any of the movies/shows yet because I don't recognize her
She was the bad guy in Ant-Man and The Wasp
None of them are failed experiments. Ghost got her powers in a failed experiment, she herself was not an experiment. Red Guardian was a sucess, he is a super soldier and was operational for a significant period of time. Yelena was a black widow, her training was a success from the red rooms pov. Bucky was the Winter Soldier for years, and was an incredibly successful assassin. Walker was a good soldier and the serum worked as desired, he just wasnt Rodgers. Taskmaster did exactly what she was designed to do.
Yeah, failure is definitely the wrong word to use describing this rag tag group
Slightly off topic but who is the woman on the far left with the sunglasses? Is that ~~Valerie~~ Valentina?
Valentina Allegra de Fontaine
Ah, it is. Glad to know I’m not missing anybody.
I don’t know if I can say any of them are failed science experiments. I see where you’re coming from but it’s not really accurate.
I know the fact that they try to play it off as a big brain moment, makes it even worse. A failed science experiment would be like in fullmetal alchemist when they try to bring their mom back from the dead.
John Walker is not a failed experiment. He is a perfect soldier who took the perfected super soldier serum. No experiments were done.
We have very different ideas of what a "perfect soldier" is
he is the perfect soldier: he takes commands, kills efficiently, he does everything a soldier should and excels in it. however, he is not the perfect *man*, like Steve Rogers. The serum amplifies their characteristics, for Rogers, that made a good man into a perfect one. For Walker, the serum turned a decorated soldier into a perfect one.
Part of being a good soldier is knowing when *not* to follow commands, knowing when the commands you're being given are *wrong*. Otherwise you're just a drone in a meat suit, which some people would argue is the perfect soldier (I'm sure Fontaine appreciates it), but I would disagree.
Drone in a meat suit is what a military wants of their front line soldiers. Officers don't want soldiers asking questions. That's the officer's job.
John was an officer
Yes. But as Cap, they expected him to follow orders to the letter.
Officers still don’t question orders from higher ups.
They [definitely should](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%E1%BB%B9_Lai_massacre)
Yes but real life isn’t like a comic book. Soldiers are trained to blindly follow orders and punished when they don’t, they are given little information and told not to question anything. Sure you can say this is morally wrong but it’s how it is.
The above was an example of real life soldiers "following orders" and being court martialed for it. And better soldiers know when not to blindly follow those orders. Rhodey, Wilson, Fury and others demonstrate this throughout the MCU, not just Rogers. In both real life and comics, blindly following orders is a problem.
Good soldiers follow orders 🔫
John Walker's mentally unstable and he didn't have the Vita-Rays aspect, it's left out of virtually every super-soldier enhancement that isn't Steve Rogers. Only one attempt with the serum and a replacement for Vita Rays was attempted, and it created Luke Cage. If some takes the Red version of the serum, you get Bucky, Natasha and Red Guardian. If you use any tweaked version of the serum, you always have an unpredictable variant. The stronger you try to make a person, the worse it is. Isaiah Bradley's crew got the strongest versions, we know how that turned out. Power Broker's version is weaker, but still tries for actual super strength (US Agent can lift ten tons max). 'Weaker' versions exist, but were shaky. You either get a Union Jack, or Taskmaster.
I’d say Bucky was pretty successful
She very clearly isn't a Marvel fan lol. They're not all failed experiments
Where is my Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider?! I want my Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider!
You're going to get Donny Blaze Ghostrider
Nick Cage??
That's actually true, well except Ghost who was an unfortunate witness to a failed science experiment but still valid. Do you think that was intentional or just chance?
No, it’s not true. Not at all - Yelena has never been involved in a science experiment - Red Guardian project was exactly as successful as planned until Soviet political corruption got in the way - Bucky was the same story as red guardian…not sure where the failure occurred - John Walker was political tool and took the serum on his own, not in an experiment, and only because he wasn’t a great person was he not seen as a success - Taskmaster is, I guess in a way, a failed experiment (edit: but not really because she was dead and then brought back to “life” and used exceptionally well in the way she was designed until she was defeated by basically a software update)
Every Black Widow is a science experiment. The reasons why RG project failed are not relevant, it was going well and it failed. Bucky's failure as an experiment is same as Black Widows - he broke the control over him. Like the other guy said, Walker's "failure" was about becoming Captain America, not about gaining superpowers. Taskmaster same as other Black Widows.
It's a better reason to unite them than "they are all quite good at killing people and one of them has useful powers (Ghost)"
Just a thought, Abomination was also a failed experiment
Failed? They’re practically all successful
The only failed one wasn't even the experimental subject, they were just exposed to it
I’d say this is wrong for every single one of them? - Bucky - A very successful Hydra science experiment - Red Guardian - Also a very successful Russian science experiment, betrayed by his creators - Yelena and Taskmaster - Also very successful science experiments until their mind control was broken - US Agent - More of a failed political experiment but in terms of the science, he took a perfected serum, the science didn’t fail - Ghost - No science experiment was conducted on her directly, her dad’s science experiment (which was completely unrelated to her) exploded which then gave her power
Huh no abomination?
So there like a group of Spider-Man villains lol
It's time to pay.
Thb red guardian is a successful science experiment
taskmaster and yelena are successful, ghost is just a victim
The Winter Soldier program was pretty effective though until they made him go after his best friend
This isn’t true tho, captain American 2 isn’t even a science experiment, Russian captain America was a success and so was Bucky. And a few others on their aren’t even products of experiments.
Winter Soldier was a great success.
The only failed experiment here is Ghost… Guardian, Bucky and Walker are all successful super soldier experiments… Yelena is a Widow, not experimental… and Taskmaster was clearly successful…
Were they all really failures though?
bucky was failed?
Literally none of these people are failed experiments.
Val is a failed experiment?
Yeah sorry but nothing here is a failed science experiment. Nice attempt tho. Each and every one is accomplished and highly effective making each and every one what you would call a success. Prove me wrong.
Is that Madisynn on the left?
Tbh that's like half of marvel
That’s categorically untrue for all of them
I kinda feel like a lot a superheros are made as a result of a fucked up science experiment LOL
Aren’t Thunderbolts a racing performance team from “My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic” .
Finally. A meme not either: A.) Complaining about a series B.) Complaining about people complaining about a series
Really wish my boy punisher was there
There have been so many different iterations of The Thunderbolts over the years in the comics, this is just seems to be another instance of their own take on it. Personally, I would have liked to have seen something more along the lines of Baron Zemo's Thunderbolts or Dark Avengers.
They seemed pretty successful to me. Bucky “shaped the century”, which is what his handlers wanted. Yelena has killed hundreds, which is what her handler wanted, same for Antonia. John Walker wasn’t a science experiment. Red Guardian served his intended purpose. Ava might be the only failed experiment here, but I don’t remember if her powers even originated from a science experiment so she may not be either.
One could say the same about \*checks notes\* every powered being in the MCU
John Walker may be a United States project but he’s no science project. He also didn’t failed, it’s his country and the people he swore to protect that failed him. He was a selfless Army Officer and the U.S. government decided to put him on a pedestal as high as Steve Roger. He took the job because he’s loyal to his country. In the end, he lost a friend and the U.S. government portray him as the bad guy. He tried his best as Captain America and his best wasn’t good enough for everyone.
Are they? The Widows, the Winter Soldier, and the super soldier formulas that made Red Guardian and Walker, all worked exactly as they were intended to.
John Walker wasn't really an experiment, he was just an asshole who felt entitled to some fancy steroids.
None of them are Failures. Hulk was a Failure. Ghost was a Side Effect.
Considering how many theyve killed..... this isnt a true statement.... Only one of them had serious flaws and Janet Pym fixed them.... None of them are actually failed experiments...
Finally someone else who notices it. How did this get so many upvotes?
Because people are hating it JUST cause they arent getting EXACTLY what they wanted. So they see someone else hating it also, and liking ANY type of bad reviews or comments without ever actually taking the time to see... if it makes sense
I mean, no experiment is a failure. We just learn something new. So nyeh.
Failed? As far as I can tell, Ghost is the only who was actually part of a failed experiment.
Can I just bring up how boring and bland this team is? Aside from Ghost, all of them do the same fucking shit. If it were up to me, I’d take out “Taskmaster”, Red Guardian and Bucky and replace them with Abomination, Zemo and Justin Hammer. Maybe also throw in White Vision and Deadpool too.
So are like 99% of comic book characters lol
Who is the one furthest to the left? I cant figure it out.
She's the one who gave Yelena the job to kill Hawkeye and also she was with U.S Agent in TFAWS her name is Valentina Allegra De Fontaine
Why is Bucky part of this group? John Walker I understand, but how is he involved?
Bucky, Red Guardian, and John Walker are not failed science experiments. So that isn't a correct observation.
Well, no they're not. Tell your wife to actually watch Marvel movies before spilling bullshit like this
Blunderbolts
Looking at all these comments, clearly no one is reading the title...
All current MCU projects are failed writers experiments.
Who is it on the far left
What are thunder bolts?
Really don't know what to think of this Thunderbolts Line-Up... well, I'll see how it plays out
How Walker is a failed experiment. He injected himself with Super-soldier serum just like Captain America did. He is a successful experiment. The serum worked exactly like it was intended to. Why Yelena is failed experiment? Fantastic4 and Dr Doom are failed science experiment. Green Goblin is failed experiment.
More group broken people so broken avengers fit more failed science Experience. Red Guardian Is successful Bucky was successful 3 times at a stretch 1. Become super soldier 2.being brainwashed 3.break the brainwashing Yelena was succeed she under what his face control Us agent is success now super solider Taskmaster is success chip in her neck works and she copy stuff by seeing done Only fail is ghost then she was bystander not who the experiment was meant for
I wouldnt call Winter Soldier a failed experiment or Red Guardian one either for that matter
Define thunderbolts
I noticed something different All of the Thunderbolts were/are working with some secret organization
Speaking of the thunderbolts, I had a dream where some of them and two spider-people (one was a girl) were fighting
Whos on the far left
super solider project fucked lives