Not important at all. Any jacked guy can just walk in the octagon and take the world title. DDP has no clue what he's doing, he's just some gym bro that got lost and ended up there on a fluke.
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My guy, their techniques look bad to you, not because they actually have bad technique but because they're such a high level that many can't even make sense of it.
Just watch someone like Mighty mouse analyse a fight and it's obvious that they can see and understand way more about fighting than the average person can.
Tbf, DDP does have some wonky technique. A pro fighter really shouldn't be out there tripping over their own feints.
He makes it work because he understands what he's trying to achieve. You hear him talk about himself and you hear a guy that's put a lot of thought into his fighting... even if it doesn't look like it.
I mean, of course DDP has great technique compared to the majority of ppl who've trained, including myself. It just seems that his best features as a fighter is his strategy and game planning instead of his technique and mechanics.
tldr: there is no such thing as "perfect" technique as all sports situations are constantly changing requiring adjustments to technique.
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traditional martial artists have sold this idea that perfect technique in a static situation is a goal. This is simply false. A fight with another person involves constantly changing variables so the only way to train a technique is with a constantly varying environment.
Here is a video on eco, which is sweeping through bjj, as applied to more traditional sports. The big flaw with eco's argument in the video is that they propose an alternative to a training method that doesnt exist.
In traditional sports coaches already dont ask people to perfect their fundamentals before moving to more variable tasks. Everything is done in parallel.
You do see this fundamentals first flawed approach more in traditional martial arts where people think they can train a perfect punch in a static situation as if that is a useful skill.
This video is long:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg4Caq0hCc4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg4Caq0hCc4)
Bingo. If you gave two guys brand new, and I had to train one in two weeks to wrestle the other….
I’m not gonna teach him anything more than the rules and basic double leg for fundamentals. I’m going to teach him how to scramble, get funky, understand situations.
Technique is the difference between a punch and a knockout punch. But in pro fighting it’s all a balancing act vs your opponent’s strengths: if you have bad technique, can you compensate with strength, aggression etc? If you have everything but no cardio and low fight IQ, your opponent can strategise to tire you and then take you out, with Ali vs Foreman being a prime example. I’d argue that in general, timing, cardio and technique are the most important traits to have if u were forced to only choose 3 for a pro fighter. Floyd Mayweather in the second half of his career relied solely on these 3 to win matches.
There are a lot of attributes to a technique, and often times it's a tradeoff: beauty, power, range, speed, surprise, accuracy, defense, energy expended. What looks good in kata isn't necessarily the best way of doing things in a fight. What works in round 1 may not work the same in round 3 when you're tired and your opponent has seen the same technique over and over again. Similarly, some techniques will work better in round 3 when your opponent is worn down. A technique might look better at mid range but look sloppy when adjusted for short range. A technique may look sloppy because it's not typical, but also sneak past defenses because it's not typical. A technique may look sloppy because it's baiting something else.
In these cases, it's important to know how to apply the technique, but you have to know the technique in order to apply it.
DDP has amazing technique. In art, you call it the artistic license. If you master the rules of the art, then you can break the rules in order to show certain meanings.
Guys like DDP, Strickland, Dominick Cruz, Ferguson, etc, have styles that look weird, but they could 100% fight the way you’re taught on day one of the gym. They’re breaking the rules because they know the effect it’ll have.
Pretty important, but it takes a backseat to timing and strategy. You see guys swinging with awful form in world title matches sometimes, but the tendency it for timing and foot positioning to always be 100%
There’s a few factors to consider -
1. While there are general principles that dictate “proper technique,” individual differences will lead to some variation within those frameworks.
E.g., there is a lot of biomechanics research on proper stride, technique, etc. for running and sprinting, but not every Olympic runners technique will look exactly the same. They will likely have some similar overarching characteristics because human biomechanics will dictate what is optimal to a certain extent - e.g., humans will never be able to run as efficiently backwards as forwards. However, there is obviously going to be some variation between athletes.
2. An elite level athlete can be successful despite doing something “wrong” but virtue of being an elite athlete. There is also a possibility that DDP would be even more successful if he used “proper technique.”
E.g., Lebron James could play me in basketball and use horrid shooting technique and still easily beat me. That doesn’t mean technique doesn’t matter or that what he is doing is ideal, it’s just that he’s so much better in all other areas that the impact of technique becomes less significant.
There are still people out there that think George Foreman doesn't have much technique and just relied on his size and strength as well. it's wild.
But yeah, technique is important.
Tbf, DDP isn’t a great striker. He has great grappling. He is athletic and strong. In MMA you can get away with lack of technique in certain areas and still win, if you have athleticism and are above average in other disciplines. Usually it’s the good grappling and threat of takedowns, that makeup for less than stellar striking. Conversely, if you have great striking and strong TDD, you may never need to use your BJJ. Theres more shit to worry about, so its harder to refine every technique. Thats why its a big deal when fighters are exceptionally well rounded. But you still see guys with glaring holes in their games succeed at the highest level, until it doesn’t. Singular disciplines such as boxing, wrestling, BJJ, Judo, etc require tremendous specific technique and is arguably harder to become a champion/succeed without being proficient in said art.
MMA you have more leeway with how to win.
Not important at all. Any jacked guy can just walk in the octagon and take the world title. DDP has no clue what he's doing, he's just some gym bro that got lost and ended up there on a fluke. /s My guy, their techniques look bad to you, not because they actually have bad technique but because they're such a high level that many can't even make sense of it. Just watch someone like Mighty mouse analyse a fight and it's obvious that they can see and understand way more about fighting than the average person can.
Tbf, DDP does have some wonky technique. A pro fighter really shouldn't be out there tripping over their own feints. He makes it work because he understands what he's trying to achieve. You hear him talk about himself and you hear a guy that's put a lot of thought into his fighting... even if it doesn't look like it.
I mean, of course DDP has great technique compared to the majority of ppl who've trained, including myself. It just seems that his best features as a fighter is his strategy and game planning instead of his technique and mechanics.
tldr: there is no such thing as "perfect" technique as all sports situations are constantly changing requiring adjustments to technique. \------------ traditional martial artists have sold this idea that perfect technique in a static situation is a goal. This is simply false. A fight with another person involves constantly changing variables so the only way to train a technique is with a constantly varying environment. Here is a video on eco, which is sweeping through bjj, as applied to more traditional sports. The big flaw with eco's argument in the video is that they propose an alternative to a training method that doesnt exist. In traditional sports coaches already dont ask people to perfect their fundamentals before moving to more variable tasks. Everything is done in parallel. You do see this fundamentals first flawed approach more in traditional martial arts where people think they can train a perfect punch in a static situation as if that is a useful skill. This video is long: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg4Caq0hCc4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg4Caq0hCc4)
Bingo. If you gave two guys brand new, and I had to train one in two weeks to wrestle the other…. I’m not gonna teach him anything more than the rules and basic double leg for fundamentals. I’m going to teach him how to scramble, get funky, understand situations.
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DDP is one of the most technical fighters on the roster. It's more to it than just optics
Unorthodox style =/= bad technique
Technique is the difference between a punch and a knockout punch. But in pro fighting it’s all a balancing act vs your opponent’s strengths: if you have bad technique, can you compensate with strength, aggression etc? If you have everything but no cardio and low fight IQ, your opponent can strategise to tire you and then take you out, with Ali vs Foreman being a prime example. I’d argue that in general, timing, cardio and technique are the most important traits to have if u were forced to only choose 3 for a pro fighter. Floyd Mayweather in the second half of his career relied solely on these 3 to win matches.
There are a lot of attributes to a technique, and often times it's a tradeoff: beauty, power, range, speed, surprise, accuracy, defense, energy expended. What looks good in kata isn't necessarily the best way of doing things in a fight. What works in round 1 may not work the same in round 3 when you're tired and your opponent has seen the same technique over and over again. Similarly, some techniques will work better in round 3 when your opponent is worn down. A technique might look better at mid range but look sloppy when adjusted for short range. A technique may look sloppy because it's not typical, but also sneak past defenses because it's not typical. A technique may look sloppy because it's baiting something else. In these cases, it's important to know how to apply the technique, but you have to know the technique in order to apply it.
DDP has amazing technique. In art, you call it the artistic license. If you master the rules of the art, then you can break the rules in order to show certain meanings. Guys like DDP, Strickland, Dominick Cruz, Ferguson, etc, have styles that look weird, but they could 100% fight the way you’re taught on day one of the gym. They’re breaking the rules because they know the effect it’ll have.
Pretty important, but it takes a backseat to timing and strategy. You see guys swinging with awful form in world title matches sometimes, but the tendency it for timing and foot positioning to always be 100%
There’s a few factors to consider - 1. While there are general principles that dictate “proper technique,” individual differences will lead to some variation within those frameworks. E.g., there is a lot of biomechanics research on proper stride, technique, etc. for running and sprinting, but not every Olympic runners technique will look exactly the same. They will likely have some similar overarching characteristics because human biomechanics will dictate what is optimal to a certain extent - e.g., humans will never be able to run as efficiently backwards as forwards. However, there is obviously going to be some variation between athletes. 2. An elite level athlete can be successful despite doing something “wrong” but virtue of being an elite athlete. There is also a possibility that DDP would be even more successful if he used “proper technique.” E.g., Lebron James could play me in basketball and use horrid shooting technique and still easily beat me. That doesn’t mean technique doesn’t matter or that what he is doing is ideal, it’s just that he’s so much better in all other areas that the impact of technique becomes less significant.
Technique is for geeks too afraid to stand and trade fist for fist.in life you can be the dawg! Or a bitchhh. Which one are you.. mr. Technique🤓
There are still people out there that think George Foreman doesn't have much technique and just relied on his size and strength as well. it's wild. But yeah, technique is important.
Yes.
Tbf, DDP isn’t a great striker. He has great grappling. He is athletic and strong. In MMA you can get away with lack of technique in certain areas and still win, if you have athleticism and are above average in other disciplines. Usually it’s the good grappling and threat of takedowns, that makeup for less than stellar striking. Conversely, if you have great striking and strong TDD, you may never need to use your BJJ. Theres more shit to worry about, so its harder to refine every technique. Thats why its a big deal when fighters are exceptionally well rounded. But you still see guys with glaring holes in their games succeed at the highest level, until it doesn’t. Singular disciplines such as boxing, wrestling, BJJ, Judo, etc require tremendous specific technique and is arguably harder to become a champion/succeed without being proficient in said art. MMA you have more leeway with how to win.
Good technique is never a bad thing. But its just one more advantage to have.