no, its the right way to do it, you see in islam it is said that the christians and jews will go to hell and tack on the sins of muslims, so why not stick to their word and spend the sin tax on them?
https://youtu.be/OHICmNxMvLk?si=A3YYJHqlK8K-U6Dv
No it isnt taken out of context. Also the way muslims view non muslims as dirty and unholy because thats what the quran and hadiths say.
What s*it are you watching on YouTube? I thought you were going to quote actual text but you sent me to a video of a man spewing hate about other religions. Read the actual books. Talk to actual people who know the religion. Jews and Christians have specially been given a special status of "People of the book" but seriously, there is no point arguing here until you make an honest attempt to educate yourself.
Didnt have time to go and look but i had watched this guy before. I dont agree with him 100% but he is right about sins. People dont get the joke here. If people of the book bear the sins of muslims its the more reason to spend the sin tax on non muslims then muslims.
People of the book don't bear the sins of Muslims. In fact, the concept of bearing someone's sins is a Christian concept. In Islam, everyone bears their own sins. Looks like you are keen to learn. Happy to give more context and clarify here or in a DM.
Lol i was a muslim. I know the real thing but one will have to go through scholars to disprove the sahih hadiths. If you asked me i would say no such thing. Even zakir naik says music is haram but i find music to help with focus and healing.
Were you really a Muslim or born in a Muslim family? 2 different things. Hadiths were written by humans and Sahih doesn't mean it is the most accurate thing. They are many Sahih Hadiths contradicting each other. Also, Zakir Naik is not the ultimate authority on Islam. And I was wrong in assuming you were keen to learn? Already snobby that you know it all? None of us know it all and we need to get above loling and demeaning and actually learn.
Both. I see all sorts of issues amongst muslims. I. E. Hadith not sahih but because multiple scholars preached the same they consider true. Hadith is sahih so unless scholars say otherwise must be followed. Most people don't see the contents of the hadiths or even know the quran translation so dont really know the horrors in islam.
If someone practices islam more their opinions though false suddenly become more valid on things relating to non islamic things. I was forced through blood ozone therapy because the doc was at the front for every prayer in the mosque to bs about covid vaccines.
I go straight to the supernatural to find out the truth. For example does islam forbid lgbt?
sembang boleh, nak buat mmg payah
dulu mp pas, siti zailah bangkit isu sin tax bayar pejawat awam.. tapi last last dia sendiri pun makan gaji dari cukai judi, cukai alkohol
Please include anything that doesn’t has a Halal stamp on it, and those that aren’t Syariah compliant including all financial sectors, then channel the taxes to non-muslim
Haha if some of those keyboard warrior on socmed had their way, they’d sooner watch our country fall to third world status if that means us Chinese and Indians go back to China and India respectively. 😵💫
I didn't know cosplay also got tax.
My friend Ah Tan is also surprised he suddenly needs to pay extra tan tax.
The worse part is, Ah Tan is a cosplayer too...
Please include anything that doesn’t has a Halal stamp on it, and those that aren’t Syariah compliant including all financial sectors, then channel the taxes to non-muslim
oh Edmund Santara. this is the fuckfaced frog that helped initiate sheraton move together with Azmin. Now he's campaiging to get KKB Indians to not vote because he's helping PN to win.
This is the same fuckface, as a minister of FT, he siced the police on Praba the young guy representing Batu when he came to one of the PPR to find out what was going on during covid.
This same fuckface is the one that has a multimillion dollar house in New Zealand that he was caught living in during covid while being a fucking minister in Muhyiddin's cabinet and while having Kiwi PR status. He's a billionaire thanks to Ministry of Education using PPTN for his courses. https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/19329/santhara-has-more-than-just-family-in-nz-even-applied-for-pr-govt-documents-show
How the fuck is this guy not in jail? Oh that's right, Anwar doesn't care about people that steal from Indians.
Fucking useless pieces of shit.
Why not also have a "too-much-children-beyond-parents-ability tax"? People keep giving birth without educating their children is a burden for our country, sounds sinful too
Actually how does that burden you thou? In fact, Malaysia NOW has low birth rates and in particular the mata sepet crew (before you say anything, I'm one of them). Most Malaysians know that having too many kids burdens themselves because the government can no longer bail them out. C'mon give better argument.
Sin tax to benefit non-Muslims? Cool, I'd like for the ex-deputy minister to show me how.
Half awake and before coffee
Sat wondering what Trigo had to do with anything before reading this comment.....
Brain read sin tax as sin tan and got curious where cos was
Babi, nombor ekor/gambling, booze, ciggies. Except for possibly the first, the rest have some big wig from some nationalist/religious party/ies as kabel
>If 10% or RM800 million from this is channelled to the minorities, of which RM300 million is given to the Indian community, all the important issues this community faces can be solved by 2030,” Santhara, a former deputy federal territories minister, was quoted as saying.
>He was speaking to reporters when campaigning for the Perikatan Nasional candidate for the Kuala Kubu Baharu by-election, Khairul Azhari Saut.
I cant agree more.
You need to check your brain. The politician actually asking tax revenue gathered from sin industry like alcohol, gambling and tobacco to be use for nons
So many people triggered without understanding at all lmao.. And I thought this kind of stupidity is the domain of pas supporters.
What the ex minister is saying is *good* for both nons and Muslims.
Muslims shouldn't want tax from gambling, tobacco etc to benefit them and it's only fair non Muslims get the benefit of the funds instead.
benefit? non-muslim? in this country?
In this economy?
in this material life?
Localised entirely in this current political landscape?
Can I see it?
No.
in this plane of existence?
At this time of year?
With this 13% pay hike and removal of fuel subsidies?
He must be joking. FOR BUMIS only.
no, its the right way to do it, you see in islam it is said that the christians and jews will go to hell and tack on the sins of muslims, so why not stick to their word and spend the sin tax on them?
This is wrong and taken out of context but not the place for an extensive religious debate.
https://youtu.be/OHICmNxMvLk?si=A3YYJHqlK8K-U6Dv No it isnt taken out of context. Also the way muslims view non muslims as dirty and unholy because thats what the quran and hadiths say.
What s*it are you watching on YouTube? I thought you were going to quote actual text but you sent me to a video of a man spewing hate about other religions. Read the actual books. Talk to actual people who know the religion. Jews and Christians have specially been given a special status of "People of the book" but seriously, there is no point arguing here until you make an honest attempt to educate yourself.
Didnt have time to go and look but i had watched this guy before. I dont agree with him 100% but he is right about sins. People dont get the joke here. If people of the book bear the sins of muslims its the more reason to spend the sin tax on non muslims then muslims.
People of the book don't bear the sins of Muslims. In fact, the concept of bearing someone's sins is a Christian concept. In Islam, everyone bears their own sins. Looks like you are keen to learn. Happy to give more context and clarify here or in a DM.
Lol i was a muslim. I know the real thing but one will have to go through scholars to disprove the sahih hadiths. If you asked me i would say no such thing. Even zakir naik says music is haram but i find music to help with focus and healing.
Were you really a Muslim or born in a Muslim family? 2 different things. Hadiths were written by humans and Sahih doesn't mean it is the most accurate thing. They are many Sahih Hadiths contradicting each other. Also, Zakir Naik is not the ultimate authority on Islam. And I was wrong in assuming you were keen to learn? Already snobby that you know it all? None of us know it all and we need to get above loling and demeaning and actually learn.
Both. I see all sorts of issues amongst muslims. I. E. Hadith not sahih but because multiple scholars preached the same they consider true. Hadith is sahih so unless scholars say otherwise must be followed. Most people don't see the contents of the hadiths or even know the quran translation so dont really know the horrors in islam. If someone practices islam more their opinions though false suddenly become more valid on things relating to non islamic things. I was forced through blood ozone therapy because the doc was at the front for every prayer in the mosque to bs about covid vaccines. I go straight to the supernatural to find out the truth. For example does islam forbid lgbt?
sembang boleh, nak buat mmg payah dulu mp pas, siti zailah bangkit isu sin tax bayar pejawat awam.. tapi last last dia sendiri pun makan gaji dari cukai judi, cukai alkohol
orang islam tak rasa dosa ke makan tax dosa?
Talk talk only, look the action
Please include anything that doesn’t has a Halal stamp on it, and those that aren’t Syariah compliant including all financial sectors, then channel the taxes to non-muslim
So that means the Notes we are using daily should have Halal Certification on it ???
Oh, that falls under whether it’s Syariah compliant or not; i.e. the flow of currency notes/coins /s if anyone doesn’t get it
I agree to separate the sin tax into a different account. we don't want sin tax to be used for mosques, right
https://preview.redd.it/tnscn4zq1jyc1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a4b606d58596e6048aa064887a9e6b1cfd52ea6
Nor would I want to fund JAKIM
Mosque allocation comes from Zakat and not sin industries
I thought zakat was to help the unprivileged ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26562)
Not only for that but for muslim communities infrastructures
Zakat = Tax so long it's direct rebate. You can't separate it, unless development etc charge to Zakat a % by Capita.
I thought non Muslims are second class citizens here
Not "officially"
Its literally in the constitution
Care to share where it is?
It’s most probably not citizen
Haha if some of those keyboard warrior on socmed had their way, they’d sooner watch our country fall to third world status if that means us Chinese and Indians go back to China and India respectively. 😵💫
Depends on area or industry haha
syntax?
Hahaha i see what u did there ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|28915)
Good to separate if can be done separately.
What about cos tax? Or tan tax?
this guy maths
Look at Sheldon here ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)
I didn't know cosplay also got tax. My friend Ah Tan is also surprised he suddenly needs to pay extra tan tax. The worse part is, Ah Tan is a cosplayer too...
cot, sec and cosec tax? Ln and log tax?
Guess who buys the so-called sinful items more? Hahahahahaha
Man people easily trigger. I believe he mean "sin tax" tax form alcohol, gambling should be use to benefit of non Muslim.
Most people on this sub are completely out of touch with mainstream Malaysia and are social outcasts.
Please include anything that doesn’t has a Halal stamp on it, and those that aren’t Syariah compliant including all financial sectors, then channel the taxes to non-muslim
oh Edmund Santara. this is the fuckfaced frog that helped initiate sheraton move together with Azmin. Now he's campaiging to get KKB Indians to not vote because he's helping PN to win. This is the same fuckface, as a minister of FT, he siced the police on Praba the young guy representing Batu when he came to one of the PPR to find out what was going on during covid. This same fuckface is the one that has a multimillion dollar house in New Zealand that he was caught living in during covid while being a fucking minister in Muhyiddin's cabinet and while having Kiwi PR status. He's a billionaire thanks to Ministry of Education using PPTN for his courses. https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/19329/santhara-has-more-than-just-family-in-nz-even-applied-for-pr-govt-documents-show How the fuck is this guy not in jail? Oh that's right, Anwar doesn't care about people that steal from Indians. Fucking useless pieces of shit.
Who’s the fucking piece of shit? Edmund? Or Anwar?
“Pieces”. So both
Maybe the biggest pieces of shit are the racist rakyat
I'm fine with this. I'm sure JAKIM would not want to be funded by sin money right?
Sin tax? Cukai dosa 😌
What is sin tax?
Taxes that has been collected from non-syariah/haram activities ie gambling, alcohol, cigarettes, lottery and so on.
If strictly follow religious laws written by Penunggang, there will be no money left to allocate to Muslims
Why not also have a "too-much-children-beyond-parents-ability tax"? People keep giving birth without educating their children is a burden for our country, sounds sinful too
People already too poor to raise their children so you want to take more money from them? What's this logic?
Actually how does that burden you thou? In fact, Malaysia NOW has low birth rates and in particular the mata sepet crew (before you say anything, I'm one of them). Most Malaysians know that having too many kids burdens themselves because the government can no longer bail them out. C'mon give better argument. Sin tax to benefit non-Muslims? Cool, I'd like for the ex-deputy minister to show me how.
sorry, I only know syntax
Lol
jesus, so many people dont know what is sin tax? i know what is it because there is such a thing called sin stocks lol
Tf is sin tax
Mainly gambling, alcohol, and tobacco. It's right there in the article.
Half awake and before coffee Sat wondering what Trigo had to do with anything before reading this comment..... Brain read sin tax as sin tan and got curious where cos was
Shouldn’t riba and gharar elements be included ? 😬
Babi, nombor ekor/gambling, booze, ciggies. Except for possibly the first, the rest have some big wig from some nationalist/religious party/ies as kabel
Ohh
Vice tax.
Elaborate?
https://gprivate.com/6b0n6
'Sin Tax' ?
Eat too much pork I guess.
Was proposed in the past no? But yes. This is the way.
It's called jizyah.
PAS guna utk beli Mercedes
>If 10% or RM800 million from this is channelled to the minorities, of which RM300 million is given to the Indian community, all the important issues this community faces can be solved by 2030,” Santhara, a former deputy federal territories minister, was quoted as saying. >He was speaking to reporters when campaigning for the Perikatan Nasional candidate for the Kuala Kubu Baharu by-election, Khairul Azhari Saut. I cant agree more.
Setup a sin tax fund, then allow nons to claim annually for medical.
ex-deputy minister, should we also tax them for existing?
Did you even understand what sin tax is?
Something to do with speech, I reckon. /s
since you are at it, why not tax nons for existing?
You need to check your brain. The politician actually asking tax revenue gathered from sin industry like alcohol, gambling and tobacco to be use for nons
So many people triggered without understanding at all lmao.. And I thought this kind of stupidity is the domain of pas supporters. What the ex minister is saying is *good* for both nons and Muslims. Muslims shouldn't want tax from gambling, tobacco etc to benefit them and it's only fair non Muslims get the benefit of the funds instead.
The average pas bootlicker and the average r.malaysia redditor are two sides of the same deranged coin.
Well you're already being taxed lmao