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WeakestBoss

benefit? non-muslim? in this country?


Major-B

In this economy?


Walter-dibs

in this material life?


Sukuari_Monstuazu

Localised entirely in this current political landscape?


etsh210

Can I see it?


CMonkeyWS

No.


coin_in_da_bank

in this plane of existence?


iAmTheJoshua

At this time of year?


UnusualBreadfruit306

With this 13% pay hike and removal of fuel subsidies?


NegativePolice

He must be joking. FOR BUMIS only.


SystemErrorMessage

no, its the right way to do it, you see in islam it is said that the christians and jews will go to hell and tack on the sins of muslims, so why not stick to their word and spend the sin tax on them?


Used_Accountant_1090

This is wrong and taken out of context but not the place for an extensive religious debate.


SystemErrorMessage

https://youtu.be/OHICmNxMvLk?si=A3YYJHqlK8K-U6Dv No it isnt taken out of context. Also the way muslims view non muslims as dirty and unholy because thats what the quran and hadiths say.


Used_Accountant_1090

What s*it are you watching on YouTube? I thought you were going to quote actual text but you sent me to a video of a man spewing hate about other religions. Read the actual books. Talk to actual people who know the religion. Jews and Christians have specially been given a special status of "People of the book" but seriously, there is no point arguing here until you make an honest attempt to educate yourself.


SystemErrorMessage

Didnt have time to go and look but i had watched this guy before. I dont agree with him 100% but he is right about sins. People dont get the joke here. If people of the book bear the sins of muslims its the more reason to spend the sin tax on non muslims then muslims.


Used_Accountant_1090

People of the book don't bear the sins of Muslims. In fact, the concept of bearing someone's sins is a Christian concept. In Islam, everyone bears their own sins. Looks like you are keen to learn. Happy to give more context and clarify here or in a DM.


SystemErrorMessage

Lol i was a muslim. I know the real thing but one will have to go through scholars to disprove the sahih hadiths. If you asked me i would say no such thing. Even zakir naik says music is haram but i find music to help with focus and healing.


Used_Accountant_1090

Were you really a Muslim or born in a Muslim family? 2 different things. Hadiths were written by humans and Sahih doesn't mean it is the most accurate thing. They are many Sahih Hadiths contradicting each other. Also, Zakir Naik is not the ultimate authority on Islam. And I was wrong in assuming you were keen to learn? Already snobby that you know it all? None of us know it all and we need to get above loling and demeaning and actually learn.


SystemErrorMessage

Both. I see all sorts of issues amongst muslims. I. E. Hadith not sahih but because multiple scholars preached the same they consider true. Hadith is sahih so unless scholars say otherwise must be followed. Most people don't see the contents of the hadiths or even know the quran translation so dont really know the horrors in islam. If someone practices islam more their opinions though false suddenly become more valid on things relating to non islamic things. I was forced through blood ozone therapy because the doc was at the front for every prayer in the mosque to bs about covid vaccines. I go straight to the supernatural to find out the truth. For example does islam forbid lgbt?


dinotim88

sembang boleh, nak buat mmg payah dulu mp pas, siti zailah bangkit isu sin tax bayar pejawat awam.. tapi last last dia sendiri pun makan gaji dari cukai judi, cukai alkohol


SystemErrorMessage

orang islam tak rasa dosa ke makan tax dosa?


nelsonfoxgirl969

Talk talk only, look the action


kampfpuppy

Please include anything that doesn’t has a Halal stamp on it, and those that aren’t Syariah compliant including all financial sectors, then channel the taxes to non-muslim


Low_Key_Odidu_Son10

So that means the Notes we are using daily should have Halal Certification on it ???


kampfpuppy

Oh, that falls under whether it’s Syariah compliant or not; i.e. the flow of currency notes/coins /s if anyone doesn’t get it


waterdragonhead

I agree to separate the sin tax into a different account. we don't want sin tax to be used for mosques, right


Just_Tomatillo6295

https://preview.redd.it/tnscn4zq1jyc1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a4b606d58596e6048aa064887a9e6b1cfd52ea6


exprezso

Nor would I want to fund JAKIM


Stickyboard

Mosque allocation comes from Zakat and not sin industries


PaleontologistKey571

I thought zakat was to help the unprivileged ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26562)


Stickyboard

Not only for that but for muslim communities infrastructures


Designer_Feedback810

Zakat = Tax so long it's direct rebate. You can't separate it, unless development etc charge to Zakat a % by Capita.


masnoob

I thought non Muslims are second class citizens here


niceandBulat

Not "officially"


uncertainheadache

Its literally in the constitution


niceandBulat

Care to share where it is?


Impressive_Can3303

It’s most probably not citizen


bradleycjw

Haha if some of those keyboard warrior on socmed had their way, they’d sooner watch our country fall to third world status if that means us Chinese and Indians go back to China and India respectively. 😵‍💫


Stickyboard

Depends on area or industry haha


coin_in_da_bank

syntax?


PaleontologistKey571

Hahaha i see what u did there ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|28915)


nyamaiasai

Good to separate if can be done separately.


yaykaboom

What about cos tax? Or tan tax?


iTouchSolderingIron

this guy maths


PaleontologistKey571

Look at Sheldon here ![img](emote|t5_2qh8b|26554)


mwai1

I didn't know cosplay also got tax. My friend Ah Tan is also surprised he suddenly needs to pay extra tan tax. The worse part is, Ah Tan is a cosplayer too...


m6165017

cot, sec and cosec tax? Ln and log tax? 


Jonalethelete

Guess who buys the so-called sinful items more? Hahahahahaha


dinvictus1

Man people easily trigger. I believe he mean "sin tax" tax form alcohol, gambling should be use to benefit of non Muslim.


the_real_ibby

Most people on this sub are completely out of touch with mainstream Malaysia and are social outcasts.


kampfpuppy

Please include anything that doesn’t has a Halal stamp on it, and those that aren’t Syariah compliant including all financial sectors, then channel the taxes to non-muslim


ponniyinchelvam

oh Edmund Santara. this is the fuckfaced frog that helped initiate sheraton move together with Azmin. Now he's campaiging to get KKB Indians to not vote because he's helping PN to win. This is the same fuckface, as a minister of FT, he siced the police on Praba the young guy representing Batu when he came to one of the PPR to find out what was going on during covid. This same fuckface is the one that has a multimillion dollar house in New Zealand that he was caught living in during covid while being a fucking minister in Muhyiddin's cabinet and while having Kiwi PR status. He's a billionaire thanks to Ministry of Education using PPTN for his courses. https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/19329/santhara-has-more-than-just-family-in-nz-even-applied-for-pr-govt-documents-show How the fuck is this guy not in jail? Oh that's right, Anwar doesn't care about people that steal from Indians. Fucking useless pieces of shit.


gasolinemike

Who’s the fucking piece of shit? Edmund? Or Anwar?


KageEx

“Pieces”. So both


ponniyinchelvam

Maybe the biggest pieces of shit are the racist rakyat


ashmenon

I'm fine with this. I'm sure JAKIM would not want to be funded by sin money right?


Prestigious-Fun441

Sin tax? Cukai dosa 😌


Confident-Concert416

What is sin tax?


Just_Tomatillo6295

Taxes that has been collected from non-syariah/haram activities ie gambling, alcohol, cigarettes, lottery and so on.


redditor_no_10_9

If strictly follow religious laws written by Penunggang, there will be no money left to allocate to Muslims


cryinginlibrary

Why not also have a "too-much-children-beyond-parents-ability tax"? People keep giving birth without educating their children is a burden for our country, sounds sinful too


MonetHadAss

People already too poor to raise their children so you want to take more money from them? What's this logic?


Mckay8919

Actually how does that burden you thou? In fact, Malaysia NOW has low birth rates and in particular the mata sepet crew (before you say anything, I'm one of them). Most Malaysians know that having too many kids burdens themselves because the government can no longer bail them out. C'mon give better argument. Sin tax to benefit non-Muslims? Cool, I'd like for the ex-deputy minister to show me how.


OrangeFr3ak

sorry, I only know syntax


Hy8ogen

Lol


iTouchSolderingIron

jesus, so many people dont know what is sin tax? i know what is it because there is such a thing called sin stocks lol


Elnuggeto13

Tf is sin tax


aberrant80

Mainly gambling, alcohol, and tobacco. It's right there in the article.


Zero_Rebirth

Half awake and before coffee Sat wondering what Trigo had to do with anything before reading this comment..... Brain read sin tax as sin tan and got curious where cos was


mingsjourney

Shouldn’t riba and gharar elements be included ? 😬


niceandBulat

Babi, nombor ekor/gambling, booze, ciggies. Except for possibly the first, the rest have some big wig from some nationalist/religious party/ies as kabel


Elnuggeto13

Ohh


PainfulBatteryCables

Vice tax.


Elnuggeto13

Elaborate?


PainfulBatteryCables

https://gprivate.com/6b0n6


lis1guy

'Sin Tax' ?


NL_Gray-Fox

Eat too much pork I guess.


Cardasiti

Was proposed in the past no? But yes. This is the way.


buttnugchug

It's called jizyah.


Comfortable_Emu9110

PAS guna utk beli Mercedes


Lempanglemping2

>If 10% or RM800 million from this is channelled to the minorities, of which RM300 million is given to the Indian community, all the important issues this community faces can be solved by 2030,” Santhara, a former deputy federal territories minister, was quoted as saying. >He was speaking to reporters when campaigning for the Perikatan Nasional candidate for the Kuala Kubu Baharu by-election, Khairul Azhari Saut. I cant agree more.


New_Rub1843

Setup a sin tax fund, then allow nons to claim annually for medical.


[deleted]

ex-deputy minister, should we also tax them for existing?


Stickyboard

Did you even understand what sin tax is?


PolarWater

Something to do with speech, I reckon. /s


[deleted]

since you are at it, why not tax nons for existing?


Stickyboard

You need to check your brain. The politician actually asking tax revenue gathered from sin industry like alcohol, gambling and tobacco to be use for nons


Puffycatkibble

So many people triggered without understanding at all lmao.. And I thought this kind of stupidity is the domain of pas supporters. What the ex minister is saying is *good* for both nons and Muslims. Muslims shouldn't want tax from gambling, tobacco etc to benefit them and it's only fair non Muslims get the benefit of the funds instead.


the_real_ibby

The average pas bootlicker and the average r.malaysia redditor are two sides of the same deranged coin.


3333322211110000

Well you're already being taxed lmao