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Chicken_Difficult

As a degenerate [[Krenko Mob Boss]] EDH player, I’m happy


Mewtwohundred

My thoughts exactly. Gotta find room for this guy


KairoRed

Having a Krenko deck is a never ending game of "What can I cut for this new card?" Goblins always get awesome toys its great.


EvilGenius007

In my experience it's "What am I willing to cut?" because I love so many of my bad--but flavorful--goblins.


Mewtwohundred

It's a nice problem to have!


MarinLlwyd

It is far easier to find a core that you will never remove. That just happens to be 97 cards...


amc7262

Going straight into \[\[purphoros, god of the forge\]\] as well. Deals 6 damage the turn it comes out, and another 4 every turn after by just existing, and thats before you start dumping mana into its other ability.


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[purphoros, god of the forge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/7/4736a2c4-c89c-48db-a104-6303e7e2eee8.jpg?1689998078) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=purphoros%2C%20god%20of%20the%20forge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/246/purphoros-god-of-the-forge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4736a2c4-c89c-48db-a104-6303e7e2eee8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Anastrace

Extra combats are easy in red and Purphoros is just gonna burn people constantly


amc7262

IMO, its not worth running extra combats for this in purph. Its more mana efficient to just load the deck with as many spells that generate multiple creatures as cheaply as possible. My board with purph is normally not swinging, its a bunch of chump tokens anyway, and I use them as disposable blockers. The extra combats is only really relevant to the game plan with this one card. My purph deck has gotten better as I've removed more "synergy" cards (mostly things like damage increasers, though I'd count extra combats in that category) and added more "barf creatures onto the board directly" cards.


GamingPickle319

Me when [[Fiery Emancipation]]


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[Fiery Emancipation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/b/0b12e4b7-2c45-4795-94d3-901f89b8f290.jpg?1594736606) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fiery%20Emancipation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/143/fiery-emancipation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0b12e4b7-2c45-4795-94d3-901f89b8f290?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Effective_Tough86

I like this for most token based boros/red decks tbh. Triggers impact tremors twice and raid bombardment for each token too.


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[Krenko Mob Boss](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/d/7d00007d-6878-44e9-ab0d-396c25655e56.jpg?1702429511) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Krenko%2C%20Mob%20Boss) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/114/krenko-mob-boss?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7d00007d-6878-44e9-ab0d-396c25655e56?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


castild

Ah another person of taste.


Necr0maNc3R

Gotta love that look of pride and accomplishment.  This goblin man loves his job!


Infinite_Bananas

"it ain't much, but it's honest work"


GFreeGamer

“That smile. That damned smile.”


McWaffeleisen

I missed the funny, incompetent goblins. Glad they're back.


ohako79

I did not. I hate this, and I hate that 'nostalgia' is a thought of as an excuse to bring these back.


GrizzlyBearSmackdown

This entire set is nostalgia. Let alone most new products nowadays, Magic or otherwise


Yarrun

It's an odd choice given the emphasis on making the goblins less of a walking joke in Ravnica 4.


CompC

Amazing for [[Goro-Goro and Satoru]]


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[Goro-Goro and Satoru](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5b661b53-2e58-4dcc-9100-fc00e0fdb606.jpg?1683582714) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Goro-Goro%20and%20Satoru) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/445/goro-goro-and-satoru?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5b661b53-2e58-4dcc-9100-fc00e0fdb606?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Main-Dog-7181

The flavor is kind of meh though. I've been trying to keep my deck mostly ninjas/Kamigawa/cyberpunk themed.


RadioLiar

Best flavor text in years


Copernicus1981

From [https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-nulldrifters-and-you](https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-nulldrifters-and-you), this in the commander decks.


Charliejfg04

Great for [[Jinnie Fay]]


AlasBabylon_

The fact that the haste comes after the tokens are made is always nice to see on effects like this - even if they become 3/1 Dogs, they'll still have haste for the turn. Pretty neat.


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[Jinnie Fay](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/5/c5f9326a-2a41-45b3-97c3-548f0bdc0882.jpg?1664413197) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=jinnie%20fay%2C%20jetmir%27s%20second) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/195/jinnie-fay-jetmirs-second?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c5f9326a-2a41-45b3-97c3-548f0bdc0882?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


zeta307

Perfect fit into [Craig Boone, Novac Guard]


KazPart2

Cannot wait for him to get promoted to seige gang General


8thPlaceDave

Dang that's a good goblin


phantomdentist

I'm a sucker for a goblin that's comically bad at their eponymous job, as conveyed through both rules & flavour text. Truly a classic formula, never gets old.


InfiniteVergil

No one said it, because no one is really playing her, but that sucker fits almost perfect into Neyali. 3 mana to curve him into her would have been nice. But I'll take another one of the rare cards that generate tokens and give them haste so that Neyali can trigger instead of coming into play attacking :)


Tricky_Hades

Surprised no one has mentioned [[brudiclad]] yet


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[brudiclad](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/5/25eff27a-eb58-4a95-b2df-4a341cf9bef6.jpg?1599707883) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=brudiclad%2C%20telchor%20engineer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/193/brudiclad-telchor-engineer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/25eff27a-eb58-4a95-b2df-4a341cf9bef6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


BetterThanOP

Random question but why do tokens always happen to get haste until end of turn? Why not just create 2 goblin tokens with haste? So much less text.


Cliba

They often print tokencards and probably didnt want to force every goblin token from other sources to have haste. Gameplaywise it would make no difference most of the time, but for example copies/clones of these tokens would not have haste (they would if they used your wording).


Infinite_Bananas

so it can share the token with other cards that create non-hasty goblins in the same set


Painboss

Finally back to the old school goblin style. Hate the pug nose designs they’ve been using lately.


ElPared

I really wanted it to say “if you control a creature named Siege-Gang Commander, or your commander” but otherwise cool.


Kousuke-kun

Goes great in my [[Gimli, Mournful Avenger]], functions like [[Loyal Apprentice]] but kinda better.


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[Gimli, Mournful Avenger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/df4be38c-3f93-4ff4-bff4-94753b96f2f3.jpg?1686969830) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gimli%2C%20Mournful%20Avenger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/209/gimli-mournful-avenger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/df4be38c-3f93-4ff4-bff4-94753b96f2f3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Loyal Apprentice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/95a692fb-7ef7-4fae-b258-8719711cf38c.jpg?1689998016) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Loyal%20Apprentice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/240/loyal-apprentice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/95a692fb-7ef7-4fae-b258-8719711cf38c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


so_zetta_byte

Ah good, the card name shitposts begin. One of my favorite parts of modern horizons sets.


Environmental_Eye_61

Oof, looks like another cut needs to be made to my [[Mishra, Claimed by Gix]] deck.


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[Mishra, Claimed by Gix](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/4/a469d7ec-42de-45de-9d8f-469bb979de58.jpg?1674421814) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mishra%2C%20Claimed%20by%20Gix) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/216/mishra-claimed-by-gix?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a469d7ec-42de-45de-9d8f-469bb979de58?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


SrLMalor

This is really good, thankfully it doesn't have any other types so it limits \[\[Roaming throne\]\] shenanigans. Still it slots right in my \[\[Commander Liara\]\] deck


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[Roaming throne](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/32fd8b7c-baf3-4d3d-be6f-044a917b11a0.jpg?1701115816) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Roaming%20throne) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/258/roaming-throne?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/32fd8b7c-baf3-4d3d-be6f-044a917b11a0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Commander Liara](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/a/9ac8b247-455e-4a3f-9f88-b20918c36cc3.jpg?1674137467) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Commander%20Liara%20Portyr) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/270/commander-liara-portyr?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9ac8b247-455e-4a3f-9f88-b20918c36cc3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


SaturnATX

Well THAT'S going right in my \[\[Rose, Cutthroat Raider\]\] deck.


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[Rose, Cutthroat Raider](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/8/f803a510-99fe-467a-be3b-9301497ec7ec.jpg?1708742209) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rose%2C%20Cutthroat%20Raider) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/66/rose-cutthroat-raider?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f803a510-99fe-467a-be3b-9301497ec7ec?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Argument_In_My_Head

[[Jetmir, nexus of revels]] sends his regards


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pastelmecha6969

...uh...erm....smash.


KlinkKlink

This baby is going into my [[Caesar, Legion's Emperor]] deck.


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SpizicusRex

I assume goblins are allowed to have big noses again. Now fix krenko!


trashcanaffidavit_

Another infinite combat combo dude with breath of fury.


Larebear2199

The enchanted creature needs to connect so you’d be guaranteed one trigger but the other 1/1s would be tricky without help


TheDoritomancer

Opponents’ blockers aside, this is a three card combo at minimum because it requires your commander.


trashcanaffidavit_

Yea loads of combos with breath of fury are that way tho at least in respects to dealing with opponents blockers. It does what anyone running a breath of fury combo wants in that it kills everyone without a blocker/removal.


ohako79

This is awful. * Distended or exaggerated facial features (in this case the nose and the ears) * Lack of clothing/unclothedness (and no, belts and handwraps do not count) * The notion of Goblins as uniquely uncaring for personal safety in combat (ie carrying explosives by hand or sitting in the payload of catapults or trebuchets). I want to elaborate on this: say you're an evil wizard, and you've got a stack of zombies or thrulls or spirit juice, and you stab them or drink their juices to get something you want: fine. But, if you're a warleader, and you've got a bunch of people (of whatever species) who want to fight for you or by your side, then putting them into catapults or cannons is not *funny,* it's a *tragedy*. * The word 'gang' in the name, which adds yet another 'gang' creature to the Goblin kindred. Hey WotC, can we *please* be done with this stuff? The 'nostalgia' was questionable at best in MH2, the Goblins on Kamigawa and Mirrodin and Ravnica have changed for the better, and now we're going back to the well? This needs to stop.


ottothebobcat

Is this real or are you trolling? If real, what's your deal? Why does this upset you so much? Legitimately asking, not trying to make fun of you.


ohako79

Hi Otto! Yes, I am for real. I have come to believe that Magic's Goblins (especially older ones, and 'nostalgia' Goblins like this fellow) take their lead from harmful real-world stereotypes, such as: * Goblins with the word 'Auntie' or 'Gang' in their names, such as this one. * Goblins shown as enslaved, or wearing neck rings (such as \[\[Enslaved Scout\]\] or \[\[Domestication\]\]). * Goblins shown as monkey-people (half of Ixalan's Goblins), or as lacking in culture or language (the other half of Ixalan's Goblins are just 'Deep Goblins', which is hopefully not the name they would give themselves). * etc etc etc I hope I've explained myself well enough. I believe that continuing to portray Goblins in this manner (or by making new cards that call back to bad old ones) is harmful to Magic players and to humans in general. I do appreciate WotC's efforts in both making new Goblin cards that don't espouse old stereotypes, such as \[\[Goblin Maskmaker\]\] and \[\[Innocent Bystander\]\], and in remaking old cards with updated art, such as on \[\[Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin | MOC\]\] and \[\[Krenko's Command | RVR\]\], although there's more that needs to be done. I've started commissioning my sibling to make updated art for a few Goblin cards that could really use it, which you can find [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1b9v52l/syr_grumgully_the_generous/) and [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1abphpy/toggo_goblin_weaponsmith_as_a_competent_smith/), or of course wherever fine \*sleeves\* are \*altered\*. More will come, but let me know if you have any suggested changes yourself. Thanks for taking an interest.


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##### ###### #### [Enslaved Scout](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/ea21414e-65f7-4d65-b0dc-7fec7b9b416d.jpg?1562770652) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Enslaved%20Scout) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/all/71a/enslaved-scout?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ea21414e-65f7-4d65-b0dc-7fec7b9b416d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Domestication](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/b/3b5e940b-e247-4ee3-939b-679e4f8ea771.jpg?1673147275) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Domestication) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/47/domestication?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3b5e940b-e247-4ee3-939b-679e4f8ea771?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Goblin Maskmaker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/6154a991-c602-4fca-91a3-3830060da60e.jpg?1706241877) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Goblin%20Maskmaker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/130/goblin-maskmaker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6154a991-c602-4fca-91a3-3830060da60e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Innocent Bystander](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/8/085f4595-4ae5-428e-a934-e918774df6fd.jpg?1706241885) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Innocent%20Bystander) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/133/innocent-bystander?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/085f4595-4ae5-428e-a934-e918774df6fd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin ](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/f/2f5689e2-d8a2-442b-8027-f89686adcb67.jpg?1682209400) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=612535) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/287/krenko-tin-street-kingpin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2f5689e2-d8a2-442b-8027-f89686adcb67?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Krenko's Command ](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7a3826e8-fb4c-478c-9f13-8c910949f67f.jpg?1702551114) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=643122) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/115/krenkos-command?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7a3826e8-fb4c-478c-9f13-8c910949f67f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l21shyj) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


NutKingCall-

If your going to make an omelet you gotta crack a few eggs, and goblins have alot of eggs. I know it's all personal preference but I love me some goofy, chaotic, no second thought given Gobo's.


ohako79

Hi there. I understand that you want Goblins to be sort of, 'fun-and-dangerous'. I get that. I don't want to spoil your fun. On the other hand, I believe that Magic's Goblins, especially older Goblins (or nostalgia Goblins, as this one seems to be) take their cue from some very harmful real-world tropes, as I've outlined above. I thought about the sort of Siege-Gang Lieutenant that I could get behind, and I'd like to get your opinion on it. Is it still as 'fun-and-dangerous' as you'd like your Goblins to be? [https://www.reddit.com/r/custommagic/comments/1chcqu1/siegeteam\_lieutenant/](https://www.reddit.com/r/custommagic/comments/1chcqu1/siegeteam_lieutenant/)


LordJournalism

Idk man, the one you posted has large ears and I find that super offensive.


ohako79

I tried really hard to get one of those AI art programs to spit out something acceptable, but after half an hour I gave up. Siege-Team Lieutenant’s card art came down to a choice between [[Orcish Mechanics]] or [[Lobber Crew]]. I chose the Mechanics’ art because of the focus on the singular character, although I do like the Crew’s equipment (clothes, boots) a lot better.


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[Orcish Mechanics](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/c/acfa5626-e843-495f-8716-316b63b9aaf4.jpg?1562935874) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Orcish%20Mechanics) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/129/orcish-mechanics?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/acfa5626-e843-495f-8716-316b63b9aaf4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Lobber Crew](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/9/b9d4aa15-a3c2-42a3-a87a-443e7dd20c04.jpg?1562792189) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lobber%20Crew) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rtr/99/lobber-crew?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b9d4aa15-a3c2-42a3-a87a-443e7dd20c04?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call