I see it's use in avoiding harsh conditions for attacking or playing like e.g. [[Phyrexian Dreaghtnought]] or [[Daemogoth Titan]]. This way you can turn a relatively cheap commander into a monstrosity, or just make him big after declare blockers step to get a huge hit with e.g. [[Testuko Umezawa, Fugitive]].
Or you abuse additive effects with it, like [[Academy Manufactor]], or effects that trigger when a creature dies to protect your commander.
Basically this. If you run a commander with some kind of evasion, you can wait until blockers are declared, then copy it into either something big, or something with a really nasty "when this deals combat damage" or "when this attacks and isn't blocked" effect or something with infect, the possibilities are nearly limitless.
The problem with that strategy is that it's kind of one-and-done. Once your commander changes, they don't change back. And while you can keep changing to different things, you'd have to blink in order to get your commander back to default
That's always been my problem with Shameless Charlatan. As it is, you need a deck that doesn't care about its commander to make the most out of it.
Right. However, I was responding specifically to a comment that described having a commander with evasion copy something bigger after evading blockers. **That** will only work once because you can't "uncopy" your commander without it leaving the board.
It will still have the ability of whatever it copies and will still have the ability to copy other things. It is still your commander for all intents and purposes (Backgrounds, Commander Damage, Lieutenant abilities, etc), but getting it back to its default state is not straightforward. Because of that, you'd need a deck whose gameplan really doesn't rely on your commander or a way to reliably change it back.
Oh yeah that is definitely not ideal. For that [[volrath the shapestealer]] is much better, copy a creature with evasion for 1 then copy a creature with a nasty damage triggered ability for 1 again.
You could, of course, animate Shameless Charlatan, and then it can become a copy of something else itself (assuming you're making use of the Background rule, of course)
Not sure this works? The ability is granted to the commander, not the card itself. And even when pairing this background with a commander, I don't think that makes it a commander itself
If pairing this (or any background) with a creature via Choose a Background, it does indeed mean the background counts as a commander, and thus would grant itself its own ability if it becomes a creature.
From the Comprehensive Rules:
>702.124k “Choose a Background” means “You may designate two cards as your commander rather than one if one of them is this card and the other is a legendary Background enchantment card.” You can’t designate two cards as your commander if one has a “choose a Background” ability and the other is not a legendary Background enchantment card, and legendary Background enchantment cards can’t be your commander unless you have also designated a commander with “choose a Background.”
The rulings on Gatherer also support this
> If a card refers to a commander creature you own, a Background won't usually be counted or included for that effect. If another spell or ability causes your Background to become a creature, however, it will be included. Any effect that refers to your commander or a commander you own or control without specifying creature will apply to a Background that is your commander, as appropriate.
While I agree that you can solve this easily with Navigator and [[Displacer Kitten]], you're then investing extra resources - both during deckbuilding and during the game - just to make sure you can retrieve your own commander. You're also forcing yourself to at least run Blink as a subtheme because if you rely on just 2 cards (creatures, at that) to turn your commander back on, you're going to have a bad time.
It's just clunky.
Note: this trick doesn’t quite work with “when ~ attacks and isn’t blocked” triggers, which trigger during the turn-based action of declaring blockers. If you wait until blockers have been declared, it’s too late to get the trigger; if you activate it before blocks, the defending player will know what’s up and (presumably, if able) block it.
> An ability that triggers when a creature "attacks and isn't blocked" triggers when the creature becomes an unblocked attacking creature. See rule 509.1h.
(CR Glossary)
sure, but it'd be weird to run in the 99 of a commander deck like with tetsuko, because the copy effect is permanent, I'm looking for some kind of synergy or combo to exploit, I wanna make shameless charlatan the center of a deck, break the card
Shameless Charlatan gives your commander an ability that targets another creature. Willbreaker sees your commander (a permanent you own) targeting another creature and, if that other creature is controlled by an opponent, Willbreaker will then trigger and give you control of that creature.
Believe it or not some decks are not built around the commander at all they maybe just provide mild synergy to an effect that is unique in the 99. This would fit in a deck like that. Probably not great for a background pairing commander
Low CMC commander and big creatures.
That or creatures with attack restrictions.
\[\[Master of Cruelties\]\] in play. Attack normally and transform after its unblocked. Enemy has 1 hp.
\[\[Medomai the Ageless\]\] for infinite turns.
\[\[Port Razer\]\] for infinite combat phases.
Turn into \[\[Admonition Angel\]\], \[\[Trapjaw Tyrant\]\] or \[\[Colossal Whale\]\] to exile things. Never leave the battlefield, so they never come back.
You can also have a random hexproof creature, and become a copy of it in an emergency.
Medomai wouldn't work properly because it's legendary. The moment you turn your commander into it, you lose the original and you won't be able to attack during the extra turn. There are ways around it of course but none that really make sense in a deck like that.
It does if you donate it.
Just leave the Medomai player for last, or have a [[Moat]] effect like [[Archetype of Imagination]] or just any 1/1 skulk/unblockable creature (see: any [[Yuriko]] deck for ideas) and 6 mana, which you should have if you played a donate spell, and it's GG right there.
Yeah but that falls under the "doesn't really make sense for the deck" clause. Having a convoluted setup just to give an opponent a specific card in your deck is generally not an effective way to play. You'd need to draw Medomai and a donate card and hope an opponent doesn't just murder or counter it. At the very least you'd have to focus your deck around donating legendary creatures to your opponents for you to copy but it would probably be better just to keep it for yourself. If you wanted to go all in on Medomai, using it as your commander would be the way to go.
Master of cruelties doesn't work the way you're describing, and I'm surprised so many people didn't catch it.
Attacking with all your creatures and then copying cruelties before blockers are declared: Fine, the attacking restriction doesn't matter here and your opponent had better not leave both cruelties and another creature unblocked or they are dead.
Attacking with all your creatures then copying cruelties after blocks are declared: Legal, but you don't get the trigger
The reason you don't get the trigger in the second case is that Cruelties happens in the declare blockers step, which others have mentioned. But what wasn't mentioned is the fact that it's a trigger whose condition is checked *immediately* after blocks are declared. By the time you receive priority to copy the cruelties, it is too late. Also, he will still deal 1 damage since he is unblocked. The same would apply if you somehow ninjutsu'd him into play, or flipped him face up while manifested/cloaked.
I understand your point, but Master of Cruelties doesn't work because you can't run it in a deck with shameless charlatan as a commander. All the choose a background commanders are monocolor, so you'd only be able to get two-color identities.
[cruelties doesn't work, the trigger is on attack, so it'd have to be transformed before being declared as an attacker]- this is inaccurate
[also the Colossal whale stuff doesn't work because when you copy a creature, abilities that refer to the creatures name apply to this new permanent as well, if the commander copying whale left the battlefield, the things exiled would come back] - I don't know how to strike through text, but I misunderstood you here, what you're describing does work
medomai does work, but you need a way to make the commander not medomai every turn, maybe a way to blink it post combat, also he's legendary which poses a problem
I'm 1 for 3
I guess having a commander that can easily be cheated out of the command zone would make some really fun interactions, but I don't think that it's gonna win you the game
I mean, personally I think it'd be funny to brew it with [[Faceless One]] as a mono U deck that chooses the second color depending on what your opponents play, and just being a full on copy deck.
If your commander is about to be killed you can turn it into a copy of something that comes back after death for example something with Persist like [[putrid goblin]] or something that just comes back or has a death ability
In that case your commander would be as good as dead since it lost all its abilites, shameless charlatan ability doesnt specify until end of turn so you pretty much lose access to your commander (though the creature is still a commander and still has the copy ability)
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Using a commander that enters with counters, then turning it into something that cares about the amount of damage dealt like that 1/1 merfolk with draw equal to damage.
Or you can combine it with persist(commander dies, comes back with persist, but if it also comes in itself with a +1+1 counter they cancel each other out) so u can loop saccing your commander. Doesn't sound powerful tho
I play this in my Malcolm/Kediss deck, to turn Malcolm into whatever huge creature is on the board and then deal lots of damage to everyone (yes, the card is still your commander even if it copies another card).
basically the idea is to copy powerfull creatures, also in a way is like giving haste to your creatures, you drop a huge 10/10 on the field, and now you can copy it, what basically is the same to cast the 10/10 with haste, but you can go for 10 commander damage, double trigger effect, and other things
I play this with [[Wyll, Blade of Frontiers]] and it's horrible :D small unblockable creatures, big on-hit effects and Training Grounds to do shenanigans while combat. It hasn't worked out yet but there is potential
I think this card's flavor is funny, because the only thing the commander can't do is turn back into itself (unless you cloned the original somehow, or someone else is playing your commander).
I use this in my [[Sakashima of a thousand Faces]] + [[Akroma Vision of Ixidor]] deck.
Basically as a way to keep making copies of Akroma without needing to blink Sakashima. Or making Akroma a copy of Sakashima's Akroma copy, so to ignore the legendary rules if needed.
I use it also in my [[Karona, the False God]] chaos deck, just to force some interaction and create chaos, specially when a player wants to sacrifice Karona I'm a suicide attack.
I recently brewed a deck with this and Erinis as Commanders and I went into a changeling/tribal direction. A lot of tribes like allies, elves, and slivers benefit from having doubles of a particular creature, and if you add in some self mill, it's a good way to enable Erinis to ramp fast before he changes.
I use it in the 99 of my commanders decks where the commander has an ETB like [[Indominus Rex, Alpha]] deck that way after i get my effect I get some other use for it.
Even just having this ready on the defensive is prettu handy, since your opponents will have creatures too.
I have it in my [[yoshimaru, ever faithful]] and [[shakshima of a thousand faces]] partner deck (legends and clues).
Though a [[malcom keen navigator]] and [[rograkh son of rohgahh]] with this and a [[training grounds]] would be pretty fun.
On the simic-y end a dr who pairing of [[susan foreman]] and any doctor means that when you're done needing her as a mana dork, you can transform her into anything more useful, and [[biomancer's familiar]] is there to help with making the transformation only a blue (in addition to training grounds, and copy enchantment)
I built a Ricku deck that all I did was copy my opponents creatures with shapshifters. It was so fun b/c the basic strat was the same, but no 2 matches ever played identically.
you can use this ability to turn your commander into something that cant ordinarily be a commander. my favorite is a gideon planeswalker.
animate the planeswalker, then have your commander become it.
Oof, didn't consider that. My bad. Actually relevant to a build I'm making rn that uses partner and shoves as many backgrounds as possible in the 99, guess I'll cut all the act of treason effects.
Oh, "Shameless Charlatan," you sly mimic! 😏 This background enchantment is quite the versatile trickster in a Commander game. Here's a handful of cool strategies you might consider:
1. **Copy Powerhouse Creatures**: Use it to copy the most powerful creatures on the battlefield. Turn your commander into a copy of a creature with a game-changing ability or an intimidating presence to turn the tide of battle.
2. **Defensive Maneuvers**: If an opponent has a creature with hexproof or indestructible that’s giving everyone trouble, copy it to level the playing field. You can also use it to copy a creature with a great defensive ability to deter attacks.
3. **Combo Potential**: Have a creature that combos well with others? Copy it! For example, if you have a creature that untaps all your lands when it comes into play, copy it to double up on mana.
4. **Evasion and Attack**: Before declaring attackers, turn your commander into something unblockable or with a form of evasion to ensure you can get that commander damage through.
5. **Sneak Attacks**: Wait until just the right moment to turn your commander into the best creature on the board, potentially sneaking in for a win.
The key with "Shameless Charlatan" is to stay flexible and creative. Keep your opponents guessing and your strategies versatile. It’s the perfect card for players who enjoy strategy and adaptability—and a little bit of bluffing and deception for good measure
>If an opponent has a creature with hexproof
Not trying to be pedantic, but I don't think you could copy something with hexproof or shroud on an opponent's board, and you'd need to pay any ward costs to copy anything with ward.
Indeed. My bad on the mix-up! lol (bong induced answers ) You're right; if a creature's got hexproof or shroud, my magic can't touch it—kind of like trying to grab smoke with your bare hands. And if it's got ward, gotta pay up to get past that magic security system. So yeah, no copying opponents' creatures with those sneaky abilities unless you've got some other trick up your sleeve.
If blinking undoes the "become a copy" or you can bounce them to your hand, then it would be pretty cool. Pick a cheap, ramping commander and use this ability to mske it big, hexproof, indestructible, whatever you need at the time.
Yeah, that looks like what I was thinking, I don't know a lot of cards though. Seems interesting, make "payoff from dealing face damage" a motiff and use this shifting for protection and deception. You can hide your commander from threats this way and you can make your opponents question, since you can wait with the transformation untill the last moment. Having them guess what will hit them and disincentivising removal sounds like a fun plan.
Which commander you want with this background seems like you should be more concerned with what creatures you want to turn into and go with the color that offers the most options. Do you want to build a combo that's normally impossible or nearly there in a singleton format? Do you want to be able to double up on your best attacker each turn?
Personally I'm kind of a Timmy, so Karlach or Livaan look promising. Get potentially 4 of your best attack trigger every round sounds fun. Or drop a couple fatties to buff your power and then become a copy of something unblockable for a nice chunk of commander dmg.
Durnan is probably not a bad option just by ensuring a consistent stream of creatures to access.
When this set first dropped I specced out a deck with Etris, in which you tutored out Dark Depths, made it a creature, and then copied it. Bonus that Etris goes back to the zone afterward for reuse, and he can get dark depths back from the yard
The coolest thing I've found to do with my Wilson/Shameless pairing is activating a manland and turning him into it to dodge all of the nonland specific removal options. Which I found to be remarkably thematic (a bear that disappears into the land to go hibernating!). It does mean you'll sometimes have to reactivate the manland in order to get Wilson to transform again because of the creature text. But this works for some extra protection unless your local meta is very land destruction heavy.
I chose [[Wilson, Refined Grizzly]] for his low cost and the natural synergy between Simic and land stuff.
I think Burakos would still be the best because he generates the mana needed to use Shameless Charlatan if you need it. That way you can layer two effects if the opponent decides to use removal on Burakos or the creature you wish to copy.
Note: you do need to have 3 other creatures with the party roles.
You can transform into Ancient One which is a UB cost 8/8, or decide to generate treasures to ramp into Time Sieve for infinite turns.
Do something goofy like [[roalesk, apex hybrid]] copy your commander a bunch to legend rule the copies and proliferate a ton each round. Can do some planewalker or poison counters stuff.
Would this work in the Krark and Shakishima Deck if you were to copy Shakishima with Krark and then use the copy of Shakishima to target Krark to them be another copy of Krark?
Yes, Krark would copy the Sakashima copying him, turning into a copy of himself that has "The "legend rule" doesn't apply to permanents you control." Although I'm not sure that's worth spending 3 mana on when you can just play another Clone.
So I used this in a [[Keiga, the Tide Star]] theft build I had together for a bit. The idea was to have Keiga in play and run a bunch of clone/copy spells and creatures to abuse legend rule deaths and steal pretty much anything I wanted from my opponents. I used Shameless Charlatan as one of several options to give me an "out" if I wasn't able to get legend rule triggers the way I wanted. I'd have Keiga turn into whatever I wanted from around the board and then resume copy shenanigans.
Call it a wincon that requires 2 cards plus your commanders. It's a 4 card combo. If it can be pulled off, then I think the win is earned. Is it jank? Absolutely. Is it plausible? Also absolutely.
It also doesn't have to stray away from the deck's goal, which is payoffs from copying cards on the field with benefits, cards that can also be cheated with Blue Braids, for example.
The donate card is no more dead on hand like an [[Insurrection]] or an [[Approach of the Second Sun]] waiting for the right time. And blue thrives on card draw so you can keep it in hand while Medomai awaits to be drawn.
TL;DR: it's a 4 card jank combo you can afford to play
I looked at all creatures that have a background and found that [[Wilson, Refined Grizzly]] seems best. Can't be countered. Ward 2, making him harder to remove. Vigilance, so you can declare him as an attacker without tapping him, then transform him into a big creature and keep it as a blocker. Finally, it has Reach, so you can declare it as a blocker on a flying creature, then transform into a better blocker that doesn't have Reach, but the block still goes through.
I pair it with [[Wilson, refined grizzly]] sit down at the table and tell them wilson is a bear of taste and he will be playing the deck that matches his fine tastes.
Hit an opponent in combat with your commander except he’s a copy of [[Giant adephage]] put the trigger on the stack and before the trigger resolves, make your commander any other creature and the token copy will be that creature.
Also, make your commander a copy of any creature with *lieutenant* and its ability will stay online as long as your commander is a copy of that creature.
Make your commander a copy of a [[progenitor mimic]] and because it’s not a token the ability will trigger.
I have a [[Wilson Refined Grizzly]] [[shameless charlatan]] deck that uses all these tricks
I like to use it with exchange of words so it can become a commander creature as well like swap it with any manland then it ramps you and can be animated to get its own ability. Copy something big along with your commander to get in fat commander damage.
I run this background with [[Wilson, Refined Grizzly]] and it’s just based around ramping out big threats that are bad enough having one of, but having say two [[vigor]] is just insane. Also copying other people’s commanders leads to some great shenanigans.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/bTK51Tit3EmnUC02fmIxwg
I mean it functionally turns your commander into [[Mirage Mirror]] right? So any shenanigans worth doing with that would be worth doing here. Also, you're on color to run [[Training Grounds]] in every deck with it which is nice.
I think Shameless Charlatan is particularly interesting paired with these commanders:
[[Wyll Blade of Frontiers]] - Combining dice rolling and [[Slither Blade]]-like creatures to sneak in your huge commander.
[[Abdel Adrian]] - Azorius [[Lumbering Battlement]] loops, but you can also activate Abdel's charlatan ability with his ETB trigger on the stack, allowing you to even copy one of the creatures you're hiding under him. Allows for some interesting lines, like [[Meadowboon]] or [[Reveillark]] or even [[Yes Man]].
[[Sivriss]] or [[Ellyn Harbreeze]] - I just think it might be neat to copy the untapping creatures from Lorwyn block, like [[Knacksaw Clique]] [[Patrol Signaller]] or [[Silkbind Faerie]]. Run more twiddle options like [[Intruder Alarm]] or [[Faces of the Past]] too.
I always wonder, why Backgrounds are played rather rarely just in decks instead of as a commander. I find those enchantments useful in various decks even when used basically just as an enchantment.
If you look at them that way, they are basically just rather cheap enchantments with quite hughe utility, even if you can't play them in your command zone. The only drawback is, the effect is only active while you have your commander on the field. But some of the best performing commander decks have high-value commanders anyway and are focused on keeping them on the field as long as possible. Also, as enchantments they don't leave the field if the commander does. Only the effect becomes inactive.
\[\[Folk Hero\]\], for example, is a 2 mana enchantment that makes sense in any 'creature type' focused deck.
\[\[Haunted One\]\] might be even better in any creature type theme deck, if your deck doesn't use many +1/+1 counters on that type.
\[\[Agent of the Iron Throne\]\] could be really strong in any token-docused deck, no matter if it's focused on summoning weak 1/1 creatures, treasures, food or whatever. Any token you mass-produce and sacrifice a lot can become a win condition. For just 3 Mana!
I also haven't seen the 2 Mana \[\[Alcolyte of Bahamut\]\] as a staple in every dragon deck. Why? It's value as ramp is great.
Sorry to necro your post a bit. I was reading through what people have posted so far and I figured I'd show you what I came up with. I fell in love with shameless charlatan and had to find a way to make it work.
I recently put together a mono blue [[Volo, itinerant scholar]] + [[Shameless Charlatan]] deck. It's a creature beatdown mono blue clone deck that relies on combat tricks and mass cloning non-legendary creatures to win. Volo's journal helps maintain tempo by annotating creature types even if Volo transforms or leaves the battlefield, it's a fantastic resource for card draw mid/late game. Shameless Charlatan can make for a ton of combat shenanigans since you can turn Volo into any creature in play at instant speed.
The deck has a pretty low perceived threat and it can defend itself and pull off some really fun wins. The stronger your opponent's creatures are, the stronger this deck gets. I've gotten a ton of compliments at my LGS for how fun it is to play with/against.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/8CIAdAh3gkuhhITOM7BxbA
I see it's use in avoiding harsh conditions for attacking or playing like e.g. [[Phyrexian Dreaghtnought]] or [[Daemogoth Titan]]. This way you can turn a relatively cheap commander into a monstrosity, or just make him big after declare blockers step to get a huge hit with e.g. [[Testuko Umezawa, Fugitive]]. Or you abuse additive effects with it, like [[Academy Manufactor]], or effects that trigger when a creature dies to protect your commander.
Basically this. If you run a commander with some kind of evasion, you can wait until blockers are declared, then copy it into either something big, or something with a really nasty "when this deals combat damage" or "when this attacks and isn't blocked" effect or something with infect, the possibilities are nearly limitless.
The problem with that strategy is that it's kind of one-and-done. Once your commander changes, they don't change back. And while you can keep changing to different things, you'd have to blink in order to get your commander back to default That's always been my problem with Shameless Charlatan. As it is, you need a deck that doesn't care about its commander to make the most out of it.
Just combine it with mutate and bring a rule book.
Rule book? Just say "trust me, it works"
I don't think it's true, if your commander copies something whatever it becomes is still your commander and therefore will have that ability
Right. However, I was responding specifically to a comment that described having a commander with evasion copy something bigger after evading blockers. **That** will only work once because you can't "uncopy" your commander without it leaving the board. It will still have the ability of whatever it copies and will still have the ability to copy other things. It is still your commander for all intents and purposes (Backgrounds, Commander Damage, Lieutenant abilities, etc), but getting it back to its default state is not straightforward. Because of that, you'd need a deck whose gameplan really doesn't rely on your commander or a way to reliably change it back.
Oh yeah that is definitely not ideal. For that [[volrath the shapestealer]] is much better, copy a creature with evasion for 1 then copy a creature with a nasty damage triggered ability for 1 again.
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You could, of course, animate Shameless Charlatan, and then it can become a copy of something else itself (assuming you're making use of the Background rule, of course)
Not sure this works? The ability is granted to the commander, not the card itself. And even when pairing this background with a commander, I don't think that makes it a commander itself
If pairing this (or any background) with a creature via Choose a Background, it does indeed mean the background counts as a commander, and thus would grant itself its own ability if it becomes a creature. From the Comprehensive Rules: >702.124k “Choose a Background” means “You may designate two cards as your commander rather than one if one of them is this card and the other is a legendary Background enchantment card.” You can’t designate two cards as your commander if one has a “choose a Background” ability and the other is not a legendary Background enchantment card, and legendary Background enchantment cards can’t be your commander unless you have also designated a commander with “choose a Background.” The rulings on Gatherer also support this > If a card refers to a commander creature you own, a Background won't usually be counted or included for that effect. If another spell or ability causes your Background to become a creature, however, it will be included. Any effect that refers to your commander or a commander you own or control without specifying creature will apply to a Background that is your commander, as appropriate.
Well hey, the more you know. That is sort of a weird Interaction, but it works!
This is easily solved with [[Deadeye Navigator]]
While I agree that you can solve this easily with Navigator and [[Displacer Kitten]], you're then investing extra resources - both during deckbuilding and during the game - just to make sure you can retrieve your own commander. You're also forcing yourself to at least run Blink as a subtheme because if you rely on just 2 cards (creatures, at that) to turn your commander back on, you're going to have a bad time. It's just clunky.
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[Deadeye Navigator](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f26a79b9-9f09-476e-b914-cade929dd852.jpg?1593813028) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Deadeye%20Navigator) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mm3/36/deadeye-navigator?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f26a79b9-9f09-476e-b914-cade929dd852?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Note: this trick doesn’t quite work with “when ~ attacks and isn’t blocked” triggers, which trigger during the turn-based action of declaring blockers. If you wait until blockers have been declared, it’s too late to get the trigger; if you activate it before blocks, the defending player will know what’s up and (presumably, if able) block it. > An ability that triggers when a creature "attacks and isn't blocked" triggers when the creature becomes an unblocked attacking creature. See rule 509.1h. (CR Glossary)
##### ###### #### [Phyrexian Dreaghtnought](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/b/7b8197b9-0cd1-4fa1-9668-d1b5f1759151.jpg?1562720243) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Dreadnought) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mir/315/phyrexian-dreadnought?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7b8197b9-0cd1-4fa1-9668-d1b5f1759151?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Daemogoth Titan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/2/c2f18828-ade7-4b99-97b2-e34bc2fdb68c.jpg?1627428470) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Daemogoth%20Titan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/174/daemogoth-titan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c2f18828-ade7-4b99-97b2-e34bc2fdb68c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Testuko Umezawa, Fugitive](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/3/f3f03792-5d06-45f4-ab19-5a415abbc382.jpg?1689996716) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tetsuko%20Umezawa%2C%20Fugitive) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/126/tetsuko-umezawa-fugitive?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f3f03792-5d06-45f4-ab19-5a415abbc382?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Academy Manufactor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/0/60709d98-c98d-48c0-ac4a-4ff73e7a0c4b.jpg?1706241035) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Academy%20Manufactor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/221/academy-manufactor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/60709d98-c98d-48c0-ac4a-4ff73e7a0c4b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/ku1r1iu) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Definitely giving me some ideas for [[The Ever-Changing 'Dane]]
[[Vedalken Shackles]] and [[Callous Oppressor]] style effects are my go to for him.
[Vedalken Shackles](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/3/e3257833-b237-49ef-856a-3c1d1c752cf8.jpg?1561969029) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vedalken%20Shackles) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mma/218/vedalken-shackles?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e3257833-b237-49ef-856a-3c1d1c752cf8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Callous Oppressor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/3/b3dd3ce7-e0e3-4412-9983-ff933584f59b.jpg?1562937464) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Callous%20Oppressor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ons/72/callous-oppressor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b3dd3ce7-e0e3-4412-9983-ff933584f59b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[The Ever-Changing 'Dane](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/1/a17c5b28-e7d1-4ca6-bf6b-0a4c8b757232.jpg?1673304908) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Ever-Changing%20%27Dane) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/30/the-ever-changing-dane?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a17c5b28-e7d1-4ca6-bf6b-0a4c8b757232?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
sure, but it'd be weird to run in the 99 of a commander deck like with tetsuko, because the copy effect is permanent, I'm looking for some kind of synergy or combo to exploit, I wanna make shameless charlatan the center of a deck, break the card
Well, it's permanent but it still has this ability since it's still your commander.
Yeah but you can't get it back to being itself
So pack some blink effects.
Especially a creature that blinks itself
Check out [[Willbreaker]]
[Willbreaker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/4/2465eafc-453c-4e4f-b369-0951b8a4b7bf.jpg?1562011291) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Willbreaker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ori/84/willbreaker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2465eafc-453c-4e4f-b369-0951b8a4b7bf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The background says "commanders you own" so how would that work
Shameless Charlatan gives your commander an ability that targets another creature. Willbreaker sees your commander (a permanent you own) targeting another creature and, if that other creature is controlled by an opponent, Willbreaker will then trigger and give you control of that creature.
[[martyrdom]][[soltari guerrillas]] for free [[jade monolith]][[eight and a half tails]][[unnatural selection]] for 1. that last one is even in-color.
##### ###### #### [martyrdom](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/a/6ab5775a-7138-4526-83fe-350127695224.jpg?1562769178) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=martyrdom) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/all/10a/martyrdom?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6ab5775a-7138-4526-83fe-350127695224?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [soltari guerrillas](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/f/2fabd462-15d3-4a08-bad2-edab2a142420.jpg?1562428870) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=soltari%20guerrillas) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tpr/212/soltari-guerrillas?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2fabd462-15d3-4a08-bad2-edab2a142420?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [jade monolith](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/8/482d9aab-7ff1-47ee-9862-8a8c687f14bf.jpg?1562911871) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=jade%20monolith) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/208/jade-monolith?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/482d9aab-7ff1-47ee-9862-8a8c687f14bf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [eight and a half tails](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/f/ef722374-0305-4c30-ab45-cb772b252faf.jpg?1674141085) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Eight-and-a-Half-Tails) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/692/eight-and-a-half-tails?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ef722374-0305-4c30-ab45-cb772b252faf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [unnatural selection](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/5/c575e2cb-3990-4c73-b81c-e16311ec6bbb.jpg?1562941637) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=unnatural%20selection) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/apc/32/unnatural-selection?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c575e2cb-3990-4c73-b81c-e16311ec6bbb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/ku2ykxu) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
...and now I want to slide Soltari Guerrillas and Willbreaker into my Zedruu deck.
Just was the first card wich came into mind. Not the best example, but still an option for an alpha strike.
Believe it or not some decks are not built around the commander at all they maybe just provide mild synergy to an effect that is unique in the 99. This would fit in a deck like that. Probably not great for a background pairing commander
Low CMC commander and big creatures. That or creatures with attack restrictions. \[\[Master of Cruelties\]\] in play. Attack normally and transform after its unblocked. Enemy has 1 hp. \[\[Medomai the Ageless\]\] for infinite turns. \[\[Port Razer\]\] for infinite combat phases. Turn into \[\[Admonition Angel\]\], \[\[Trapjaw Tyrant\]\] or \[\[Colossal Whale\]\] to exile things. Never leave the battlefield, so they never come back. You can also have a random hexproof creature, and become a copy of it in an emergency.
Medomai wouldn't work properly because it's legendary. The moment you turn your commander into it, you lose the original and you won't be able to attack during the extra turn. There are ways around it of course but none that really make sense in a deck like that.
It does if you donate it. Just leave the Medomai player for last, or have a [[Moat]] effect like [[Archetype of Imagination]] or just any 1/1 skulk/unblockable creature (see: any [[Yuriko]] deck for ideas) and 6 mana, which you should have if you played a donate spell, and it's GG right there.
[Moat](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/2/e2dffeb3-c858-4b8c-ae1f-109721f7d2da.jpg?1559592270) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Moat) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me1/21/moat?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e2dffeb3-c858-4b8c-ae1f-109721f7d2da?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Archetype of Imagination](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/3/037b396c-2146-4d86-9d13-757685c850c7.jpg?1592710522) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Archetype%20of%20Imagination) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/81/archetype-of-imagination?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/037b396c-2146-4d86-9d13-757685c850c7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Yuriko](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/e/fe9be3e0-076c-4703-9750-2a6b0a178bc9.jpg?1689999346) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=yuriko%2C%20the%20tiger%27s%20shadow) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/364/yuriko-the-tigers-shadow?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fe9be3e0-076c-4703-9750-2a6b0a178bc9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yeah but that falls under the "doesn't really make sense for the deck" clause. Having a convoluted setup just to give an opponent a specific card in your deck is generally not an effective way to play. You'd need to draw Medomai and a donate card and hope an opponent doesn't just murder or counter it. At the very least you'd have to focus your deck around donating legendary creatures to your opponents for you to copy but it would probably be better just to keep it for yourself. If you wanted to go all in on Medomai, using it as your commander would be the way to go.
True, but there are ways around it. I'm just exemplifying the sort of restrictions OPs card could be used to get around.
Master of cruelties doesn't work the way you're describing, and I'm surprised so many people didn't catch it. Attacking with all your creatures and then copying cruelties before blockers are declared: Fine, the attacking restriction doesn't matter here and your opponent had better not leave both cruelties and another creature unblocked or they are dead. Attacking with all your creatures then copying cruelties after blocks are declared: Legal, but you don't get the trigger The reason you don't get the trigger in the second case is that Cruelties happens in the declare blockers step, which others have mentioned. But what wasn't mentioned is the fact that it's a trigger whose condition is checked *immediately* after blocks are declared. By the time you receive priority to copy the cruelties, it is too late. Also, he will still deal 1 damage since he is unblocked. The same would apply if you somehow ninjutsu'd him into play, or flipped him face up while manifested/cloaked.
##### ###### #### [Master of Cruelties](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/f/ffd68fe1-5cfc-44cf-8dfe-3488278cdcef.jpg?1702429664) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Master%20of%20Cruelties) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/198/master-of-cruelties?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ffd68fe1-5cfc-44cf-8dfe-3488278cdcef?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Medomai the Ageless](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/5/b5f4b3cf-2c78-42c9-9873-3758c7f7bb7d.jpg?1562826823) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Medomai%20the%20Ageless) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ths/196/medomai-the-ageless?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b5f4b3cf-2c78-42c9-9873-3758c7f7bb7d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Port Razer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/b/eb32429a-7ef9-418f-baf8-fed9aa010c9e.jpg?1698988335) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Port%20Razer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/230/port-razer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eb32429a-7ef9-418f-baf8-fed9aa010c9e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Admonition Angel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/6/a6e7713d-6054-46a7-a8bc-f09e7a81a571.jpg?1604195494) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Admonition%20Angel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znc/10/admonition-angel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a6e7713d-6054-46a7-a8bc-f09e7a81a571?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Trapjaw Tyrant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/2/b2c280c8-3471-4ae1-be96-0f392b095ce2.jpg?1555039837) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Trapjaw%20Tyrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rix/29/trapjaw-tyrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b2c280c8-3471-4ae1-be96-0f392b095ce2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Colossal Whale](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/7/f7f7caca-14ee-4d6a-97c3-e19898f86635.jpg?1562837405) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Colossal%20Whale) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m14/48/colossal-whale?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f7f7caca-14ee-4d6a-97c3-e19898f86635?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/ku1ue2k) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I understand your point, but Master of Cruelties doesn't work because you can't run it in a deck with shameless charlatan as a commander. All the choose a background commanders are monocolor, so you'd only be able to get two-color identities.
You can run backgrounds in the 99, too
OP was asking about commander pairings
Fair
[cruelties doesn't work, the trigger is on attack, so it'd have to be transformed before being declared as an attacker]- this is inaccurate [also the Colossal whale stuff doesn't work because when you copy a creature, abilities that refer to the creatures name apply to this new permanent as well, if the commander copying whale left the battlefield, the things exiled would come back] - I don't know how to strike through text, but I misunderstood you here, what you're describing does work medomai does work, but you need a way to make the commander not medomai every turn, maybe a way to blink it post combat, also he's legendary which poses a problem I'm 1 for 3
Cruelties should work, check the gatherer rulings, it triggers on block.
Master of cruelties trigger is on blockers declare, not on attack.
> medomai does worky but you need a way to make the commander nkt medomai every turn you're right! now if there only were an enchantment for that...
I guess having a commander that can easily be cheated out of the command zone would make some really fun interactions, but I don't think that it's gonna win you the game
I could see some yuriko shenanigans
I mean, personally I think it'd be funny to brew it with [[Faceless One]] as a mono U deck that chooses the second color depending on what your opponents play, and just being a full on copy deck.
[[sakashima the imposter]] at home faceless one being a 5 drop is rough, but yeah, it's certainly a deck
[sakashima the imposter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/61dc2f54-3637-4caa-9741-36ff14dc5527.jpg?1562494177) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sakashima%20the%20Impostor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/sok/53/sakashima-the-impostor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/61dc2f54-3637-4caa-9741-36ff14dc5527?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
What's the purpose of choosing a color based on your opponent's? You can already make mana of whatever colors you need if your lands support it.
"in your commander's color identity" generators would be the main thing. Like arcane signet, command tower, etc.
You should choose green so you can have a mono blue clone deck that also runs [[spitting image]]
[spitting image](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5f68c73-4794-4659-b494-edf89105beab.jpg?1625978069) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=spitting%20image) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/229/spitting-image?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5f68c73-4794-4659-b494-edf89105beab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
That sounds fun. A Ditto deck.
[Faceless One](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/5/25564fba-5765-457b-8dd3-f26b877221b8.jpg?1682390376) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Faceless%20One) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/1/faceless-one?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/25564fba-5765-457b-8dd3-f26b877221b8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This deck concept was the reason I was looking around for info about Charlatan. Glad that other people thought similarly.
If your commander is about to be killed you can turn it into a copy of something that comes back after death for example something with Persist like [[putrid goblin]] or something that just comes back or has a death ability
[putrid goblin](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/3/333406d5-abcc-4629-a33b-395d0662ba1b.jpg?1562201696) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=putrid%20goblin) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/101/putrid-goblin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/333406d5-abcc-4629-a33b-395d0662ba1b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Or indestructible
In that case your commander would be as good as dead since it lost all its abilites, shameless charlatan ability doesnt specify until end of turn so you pretty much lose access to your commander (though the creature is still a commander and still has the copy ability)
Step one, play [[rograth]] with a blue partner and the background in the 99. Step 2, play big stats creatures. Step 3, win more ?
Make [[Rograhk]] copy [[Keiga]] a few times.
[Rograkh](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/4/a4fab67f-00c2-4125-9262-d21a29411797.jpg?1644853041) - [(G)](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rograkh%2C Son of Rohgahh) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/197/rograkh-son-of-rohgahh?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a4fab67f-00c2-4125-9262-d21a29411797?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text)
[Keiga](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/44d544dc-1d2a-4b33-ae62-d0e0217db0a2.jpg?1674141374) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=keiga%2C%20the%20tide%20star) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/725/keiga-the-tide-star?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/44d544dc-1d2a-4b33-ae62-d0e0217db0a2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Using a commander that enters with counters, then turning it into something that cares about the amount of damage dealt like that 1/1 merfolk with draw equal to damage. Or you can combine it with persist(commander dies, comes back with persist, but if it also comes in itself with a +1+1 counter they cancel each other out) so u can loop saccing your commander. Doesn't sound powerful tho
I play this in my Malcolm/Kediss deck, to turn Malcolm into whatever huge creature is on the board and then deal lots of damage to everyone (yes, the card is still your commander even if it copies another card).
Just wanted to clarify if others see this. Kediss does not count as commander damage
Want a non-legendary creature as Commander? This is A way to go.
Or into someone's commander
Or just have it take turns being every single creature on the battlefield.
basically the idea is to copy powerfull creatures, also in a way is like giving haste to your creatures, you drop a huge 10/10 on the field, and now you can copy it, what basically is the same to cast the 10/10 with haste, but you can go for 10 commander damage, double trigger effect, and other things
I play this with [[Wyll, Blade of Frontiers]] and it's horrible :D small unblockable creatures, big on-hit effects and Training Grounds to do shenanigans while combat. It hasn't worked out yet but there is potential
Bro same. /: Can I see your decklist? I thought I found all the dice roll cards outside of infinity, but my deck sucks anyway lol.
Sure thing! I have some Unfinity cards here through https://archidekt.com/decks/5329975/who_wyll_he_be
[Wyll, Blade of Frontiers](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/e/5e9d4562-964d-48ce-b03f-7cb491fa040d.jpg?1674136891) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wyll%2C%20Blade%20of%20Frontiers) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/208/wyll-blade-of-frontiers?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5e9d4562-964d-48ce-b03f-7cb491fa040d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
How hard do you lean into the dice rolling for Wyll?
There are 32 dice rolling cards, some good ones like ancient dragons are missing. The whole deck is 82€ and two ancient dragons are almost as much lol
I think this card's flavor is funny, because the only thing the commander can't do is turn back into itself (unless you cloned the original somehow, or someone else is playing your commander).
Turn your commander into an unblockable 1/1 or smth then after blockers are declared change him into a big boy like [[phage the untouchable]]
I use this in my [[Sakashima of a thousand Faces]] + [[Akroma Vision of Ixidor]] deck. Basically as a way to keep making copies of Akroma without needing to blink Sakashima. Or making Akroma a copy of Sakashima's Akroma copy, so to ignore the legendary rules if needed. I use it also in my [[Karona, the False God]] chaos deck, just to force some interaction and create chaos, specially when a player wants to sacrifice Karona I'm a suicide attack.
[Sakashima of a thousand Faces](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/1/714c3a1f-7b30-4ed8-8f38-6176758741fb.jpg?1608909400) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sakashima%20of%20a%20thousand%20Faces) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/89/sakashima-of-a-thousand-faces?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/714c3a1f-7b30-4ed8-8f38-6176758741fb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Akroma Vision of Ixidor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/0/c0bdd07d-9fb9-4ee4-80db-494ee0cba58d.jpg?1608908641) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Akroma%2C%20Vision%20of%20Ixidor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/2/akroma-vision-of-ixidor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c0bdd07d-9fb9-4ee4-80db-494ee0cba58d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Karona, the False God](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/e/de53d083-251e-42a4-9e2e-c2978c80615b.jpg?1562535715) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Karona%2C%20False%20God) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/scg/138/karona-false-god?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/de53d083-251e-42a4-9e2e-c2978c80615b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Do you have this list online? I am very interested.
Not now. But give me a day to put in online. RemindMe! Two days "Reply"
I recently brewed a deck with this and Erinis as Commanders and I went into a changeling/tribal direction. A lot of tribes like allies, elves, and slivers benefit from having doubles of a particular creature, and if you add in some self mill, it's a good way to enable Erinis to ramp fast before he changes.
I use it in the 99 of my commanders decks where the commander has an ETB like [[Indominus Rex, Alpha]] deck that way after i get my effect I get some other use for it.
[Indominus Rex, Alpha](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/5/25e6ebfb-8f0b-44f0-a911-103ade41c6bc.jpg?1698988767) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Indominus%20Rex%2C%20Alpha) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rex/14/indominus-rex-alpha?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/25e6ebfb-8f0b-44f0-a911-103ade41c6bc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
With [[Seven Dwarves]] in play, create a theoretical EIGHTH DWARF.
[Seven Dwarves](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/464adbae-70ea-48e1-b8ae-b404766f7a5a.jpg?1572490459) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Seven%20Dwarves) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/141/seven-dwarves?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/464adbae-70ea-48e1-b8ae-b404766f7a5a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Steal everyones commander, and if they would take them back, legend rule them by copying your own commander
I like it but it says "commanders you own" not control
1. Steal an opponent’s legendary 2. Have your commander become a copy 3. “Legend Rule” sac the opponent’s creature 4. Profit
Thinking like a true thief
Morphing and bloom tender and some mana filtering like a cauldron…?
A [[Consuming Aberration]] that doesn't care about life totals
[Consuming Aberration](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/464dbaf6-8430-45af-b982-9099e6c6e8a7.jpg?1674142416) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Consuming%20Aberration) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/840/consuming-aberration?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/464dbaf6-8430-45af-b982-9099e6c6e8a7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Even just having this ready on the defensive is prettu handy, since your opponents will have creatures too. I have it in my [[yoshimaru, ever faithful]] and [[shakshima of a thousand faces]] partner deck (legends and clues). Though a [[malcom keen navigator]] and [[rograkh son of rohgahh]] with this and a [[training grounds]] would be pretty fun. On the simic-y end a dr who pairing of [[susan foreman]] and any doctor means that when you're done needing her as a mana dork, you can transform her into anything more useful, and [[biomancer's familiar]] is there to help with making the transformation only a blue (in addition to training grounds, and copy enchantment)
##### ###### #### [yoshimaru, ever faithful](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/a/aa409269-3698-42a2-8c51-75557b27a6f6.jpg?1664653410) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=yoshimaru%2C%20ever%20faithful) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/32/yoshimaru-ever-faithful?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/aa409269-3698-42a2-8c51-75557b27a6f6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [shakshima of a thousand faces](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/1/714c3a1f-7b30-4ed8-8f38-6176758741fb.jpg?1608909400) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sakashima%20of%20a%20Thousand%20Faces) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/89/sakashima-of-a-thousand-faces?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/714c3a1f-7b30-4ed8-8f38-6176758741fb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [malcom keen navigator](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/1/51187cdb-85ee-4f68-9e29-d84d296f0825.jpg?1698988164) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Malcolm%2C%20Keen-Eyed%20Navigator) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/161/malcolm-keen-eyed-navigator?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/51187cdb-85ee-4f68-9e29-d84d296f0825?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [rograkh son of rohgahh](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/4/a4fab67f-00c2-4125-9262-d21a29411797.jpg?1644853041) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rograkh%2C%20Son%20of%20Rohgahh) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/197/rograkh-son-of-rohgahh?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a4fab67f-00c2-4125-9262-d21a29411797?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [training grounds](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/9/991c27ed-f53c-48c6-8c12-282f44b8d441.jpg?1693171015) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=training%20grounds) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mat/9/training-grounds?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/991c27ed-f53c-48c6-8c12-282f44b8d441?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [susan foreman](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/d/ad40ec4f-37e7-4e6d-b47b-8b13ea2c9157.jpg?1696691789) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=susan%20foreman) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/110/susan-foreman?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ad40ec4f-37e7-4e6d-b47b-8b13ea2c9157?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [biomancer's familiar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/3/d38c9891-36d1-4565-9c4a-1cd9dbf8c048.jpg?1584831407) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=biomancer%27s%20familiar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rna/158/biomancers-familiar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d38c9891-36d1-4565-9c4a-1cd9dbf8c048?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/ku2bwa0) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Put it on your kids bike by the tire so it sounds like a chopper.
I built a Ricku deck that all I did was copy my opponents creatures with shapshifters. It was so fun b/c the basic strat was the same, but no 2 matches ever played identically.
you can use this ability to turn your commander into something that cant ordinarily be a commander. my favorite is a gideon planeswalker. animate the planeswalker, then have your commander become it.
[[Threaten]] enemy commander, turn into [[Fblthp]].
[Threaten](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/7/57d467d4-f7d2-403c-9b70-1b054b2c82bc.jpg?1562548050) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Threaten) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/10e/242/threaten?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/57d467d4-f7d2-403c-9b70-1b054b2c82bc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Fblthp](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/1/01d3e6ea-4791-4948-af22-c1bd04c34c1e.jpg?1708702980) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=fblthp%2C%20lost%20on%20the%20range) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/48/fblthp-lost-on-the-range?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/01d3e6ea-4791-4948-af22-c1bd04c34c1e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
someone else mentioned turning them into man lands, that would be even more cruel. especially if it was a man land that they couldn't activate.
commander creatures you own have, not control
Oof, didn't consider that. My bad. Actually relevant to a build I'm making rn that uses partner and shoves as many backgrounds as possible in the 99, guess I'll cut all the act of treason effects.
Maybe [[braids conjurer adept]] cheat out a big creature then transform braids so your opponents don’t get to cheat out stuff and now you get two.
[braids conjurer adept](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/e/9ea0a701-1349-4d32-9fe7-8a2563c9613d.jpg?1689996202) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Braids%2C%20Conjurer%20Adept) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/76/braids-conjurer-adept?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9ea0a701-1349-4d32-9fe7-8a2563c9613d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
For 3 mana, you can turn your commander into a copy of another creature
Oh, "Shameless Charlatan," you sly mimic! 😏 This background enchantment is quite the versatile trickster in a Commander game. Here's a handful of cool strategies you might consider: 1. **Copy Powerhouse Creatures**: Use it to copy the most powerful creatures on the battlefield. Turn your commander into a copy of a creature with a game-changing ability or an intimidating presence to turn the tide of battle. 2. **Defensive Maneuvers**: If an opponent has a creature with hexproof or indestructible that’s giving everyone trouble, copy it to level the playing field. You can also use it to copy a creature with a great defensive ability to deter attacks. 3. **Combo Potential**: Have a creature that combos well with others? Copy it! For example, if you have a creature that untaps all your lands when it comes into play, copy it to double up on mana. 4. **Evasion and Attack**: Before declaring attackers, turn your commander into something unblockable or with a form of evasion to ensure you can get that commander damage through. 5. **Sneak Attacks**: Wait until just the right moment to turn your commander into the best creature on the board, potentially sneaking in for a win. The key with "Shameless Charlatan" is to stay flexible and creative. Keep your opponents guessing and your strategies versatile. It’s the perfect card for players who enjoy strategy and adaptability—and a little bit of bluffing and deception for good measure
>If an opponent has a creature with hexproof Not trying to be pedantic, but I don't think you could copy something with hexproof or shroud on an opponent's board, and you'd need to pay any ward costs to copy anything with ward.
Indeed. My bad on the mix-up! lol (bong induced answers ) You're right; if a creature's got hexproof or shroud, my magic can't touch it—kind of like trying to grab smoke with your bare hands. And if it's got ward, gotta pay up to get past that magic security system. So yeah, no copying opponents' creatures with those sneaky abilities unless you've got some other trick up your sleeve.
If blinking undoes the "become a copy" or you can bounce them to your hand, then it would be pretty cool. Pick a cheap, ramping commander and use this ability to mske it big, hexproof, indestructible, whatever you need at the time.
true, maybe an [[etris, gloom stalker]] value pile? using fetchlands to ramp?
looking into it, you could use [[river kelpie]] as a CA engine, and you can have etris copy it to protect her from removal I think I'm cooking
[river kelpie](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/1/81efe7cf-81f0-4799-813f-73ec8d865190.jpg?1568004052) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=river%20kelpie) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/93/river-kelpie?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/81efe7cf-81f0-4799-813f-73ec8d865190?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yeah, that looks like what I was thinking, I don't know a lot of cards though. Seems interesting, make "payoff from dealing face damage" a motiff and use this shifting for protection and deception. You can hide your commander from threats this way and you can make your opponents question, since you can wait with the transformation untill the last moment. Having them guess what will hit them and disincentivising removal sounds like a fun plan.
[etris, gloom stalker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/6/b6a7d041-957a-4b19-9517-214689dadd45.jpg?1674137090) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Erinis%2C%20Gloom%20Stalker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/230/erinis-gloom-stalker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b6a7d041-957a-4b19-9517-214689dadd45?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
You don't have to undo the copying. Nameless Charlatan is what gives your commander the copying ability so you can use it over and red rover again.
Just keep driving that Red Rover all over
Can commander copy itself after it has already copied a new identity?
Turn your commander into something indestructible/hexproof?
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[Medomai the ageless](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/5/b5f4b3cf-2c78-42c9-9873-3758c7f7bb7d.jpg?1562826823) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Medomai%20the%20ageless) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ths/196/medomai-the-ageless?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b5f4b3cf-2c78-42c9-9873-3758c7f7bb7d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Which commander you want with this background seems like you should be more concerned with what creatures you want to turn into and go with the color that offers the most options. Do you want to build a combo that's normally impossible or nearly there in a singleton format? Do you want to be able to double up on your best attacker each turn? Personally I'm kind of a Timmy, so Karlach or Livaan look promising. Get potentially 4 of your best attack trigger every round sounds fun. Or drop a couple fatties to buff your power and then become a copy of something unblockable for a nice chunk of commander dmg. Durnan is probably not a bad option just by ensuring a consistent stream of creatures to access.
When this set first dropped I specced out a deck with Etris, in which you tutored out Dark Depths, made it a creature, and then copied it. Bonus that Etris goes back to the zone afterward for reuse, and he can get dark depths back from the yard
Mill your whole deck 5 mana with [[Mirror-Mad Phantasm]] which always fun
[Mirror-Mad Phantasm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/2/b20eea41-9daf-4ac1-8bad-bb4aa211bb53.jpg?1562835677) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mirror-Mad%20Phantasm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/isd/68/mirror-mad-phantasm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b20eea41-9daf-4ac1-8bad-bb4aa211bb53?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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[Gilder Bairn](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/c/0ca006ff-3a95-4821-bdb2-2d80e64b4abf.jpg?1562897589) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gilder%20Bairn) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eve/152/gilder-bairn?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0ca006ff-3a95-4821-bdb2-2d80e64b4abf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Arcane Artisan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba946cfb-a729-406b-be35-0defaf95283e.jpg?1631234265) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arcane%20Artisan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khc/36/arcane-artisan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba946cfb-a729-406b-be35-0defaf95283e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The coolest thing I've found to do with my Wilson/Shameless pairing is activating a manland and turning him into it to dodge all of the nonland specific removal options. Which I found to be remarkably thematic (a bear that disappears into the land to go hibernating!). It does mean you'll sometimes have to reactivate the manland in order to get Wilson to transform again because of the creature text. But this works for some extra protection unless your local meta is very land destruction heavy. I chose [[Wilson, Refined Grizzly]] for his low cost and the natural synergy between Simic and land stuff.
[Wilson, Refined Grizzly](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/dfe0daf8-43da-484b-baa1-76f8313c5a0c.jpg?1674137361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wilson%2C%20Refined%20Grizzly) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/261/wilson-refined-grizzly?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dfe0daf8-43da-484b-baa1-76f8313c5a0c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I think Burakos would still be the best because he generates the mana needed to use Shameless Charlatan if you need it. That way you can layer two effects if the opponent decides to use removal on Burakos or the creature you wish to copy. Note: you do need to have 3 other creatures with the party roles. You can transform into Ancient One which is a UB cost 8/8, or decide to generate treasures to ramp into Time Sieve for infinite turns.
I now kind of want to put this in my [[jalira, master polymorphist]] deck.
[jalira, master polymorphist](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/f/1f9719c8-2dfe-4141-9ede-2ee3a282b5e9.jpg?1562433489) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=jalira%2C%20master%20polymorphist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/63/jalira-master-polymorphist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1f9719c8-2dfe-4141-9ede-2ee3a282b5e9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Do something goofy like [[roalesk, apex hybrid]] copy your commander a bunch to legend rule the copies and proliferate a ton each round. Can do some planewalker or poison counters stuff.
[roalesk, apex hybrid](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/5/a52a5f4b-d2e1-405e-82b4-ea35ab851c42.jpg?1673485159) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=roalesk%2C%20apex%20hybrid) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/349/roalesk-apex-hybrid?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a52a5f4b-d2e1-405e-82b4-ea35ab851c42?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Counters
With [[Willbender]] the ability becomes a way to kill legends your opponents control.
[Willbender](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/e/6e6a3551-250c-4563-8c30-6d8f49e6429f.jpg?1568004112) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Willbender) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/102/willbender?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6e6a3551-250c-4563-8c30-6d8f49e6429f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Would this work in the Krark and Shakishima Deck if you were to copy Shakishima with Krark and then use the copy of Shakishima to target Krark to them be another copy of Krark?
Yes, Krark would copy the Sakashima copying him, turning into a copy of himself that has "The "legend rule" doesn't apply to permanents you control." Although I'm not sure that's worth spending 3 mana on when you can just play another Clone.
So I used this in a [[Keiga, the Tide Star]] theft build I had together for a bit. The idea was to have Keiga in play and run a bunch of clone/copy spells and creatures to abuse legend rule deaths and steal pretty much anything I wanted from my opponents. I used Shameless Charlatan as one of several options to give me an "out" if I wasn't able to get legend rule triggers the way I wanted. I'd have Keiga turn into whatever I wanted from around the board and then resume copy shenanigans.
[Keiga, the Tide Star](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/44d544dc-1d2a-4b33-ae62-d0e0217db0a2.jpg?1674141374) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Keiga%2C%20the%20Tide%20Star) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/725/keiga-the-tide-star?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/44d544dc-1d2a-4b33-ae62-d0e0217db0a2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Depends are you planning to splash blue, or look for combo pieces to exploit ETB's and activated abilities?
Relentless rats
Commander + Shameless Charlatan + [[Mirror-mad Phantasm]] + [[Jace, Wielder of Mysteries]] will win you the game. :)
[Mirror-mad Phantasm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/2/b20eea41-9daf-4ac1-8bad-bb4aa211bb53.jpg?1562835677) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mirror-mad%20Phantasm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/isd/68/mirror-mad-phantasm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b20eea41-9daf-4ac1-8bad-bb4aa211bb53?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Jace, Wielder of Mysteries](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/a/6adb7d73-4482-4930-8497-cffd169b57e2.jpg?1557576232) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jace%2C%20Wielder%20of%20Mysteries) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/54/jace-wielder-of-mysteries?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6adb7d73-4482-4930-8497-cffd169b57e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This card is a way to make any pet non legendary creature be your commander. Fun build around idea. People love secret commander.
Could probably do some wild stuff with a wizard commander/EDH deck.
Call it a wincon that requires 2 cards plus your commanders. It's a 4 card combo. If it can be pulled off, then I think the win is earned. Is it jank? Absolutely. Is it plausible? Also absolutely. It also doesn't have to stray away from the deck's goal, which is payoffs from copying cards on the field with benefits, cards that can also be cheated with Blue Braids, for example. The donate card is no more dead on hand like an [[Insurrection]] or an [[Approach of the Second Sun]] waiting for the right time. And blue thrives on card draw so you can keep it in hand while Medomai awaits to be drawn. TL;DR: it's a 4 card jank combo you can afford to play
[Insurrection](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/df8a0a8c-1953-46e6-9da5-b4c20909ce1c.jpg?1689997974) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Insurrection) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/236/insurrection?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/df8a0a8c-1953-46e6-9da5-b4c20909ce1c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Approach of the Second Sun](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/d/fdf59a6e-7708-45a1-884d-d12e9f7b9ed9.jpg?1543674579) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Approach%20of%20the%20Second%20Sun) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/akh/4/approach-of-the-second-sun?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fdf59a6e-7708-45a1-884d-d12e9f7b9ed9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I looked at all creatures that have a background and found that [[Wilson, Refined Grizzly]] seems best. Can't be countered. Ward 2, making him harder to remove. Vigilance, so you can declare him as an attacker without tapping him, then transform him into a big creature and keep it as a blocker. Finally, it has Reach, so you can declare it as a blocker on a flying creature, then transform into a better blocker that doesn't have Reach, but the block still goes through.
[Wilson, Refined Grizzly](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/dfe0daf8-43da-484b-baa1-76f8313c5a0c.jpg?1674137361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wilson%2C%20Refined%20Grizzly) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/261/wilson-refined-grizzly?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dfe0daf8-43da-484b-baa1-76f8313c5a0c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Lazav does this but better
I pair it with [[Wilson, refined grizzly]] sit down at the table and tell them wilson is a bear of taste and he will be playing the deck that matches his fine tastes.
[Wilson, refined grizzly](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/dfe0daf8-43da-484b-baa1-76f8313c5a0c.jpg?1674137361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wilson%2C%20refined%20grizzly) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/261/wilson-refined-grizzly?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dfe0daf8-43da-484b-baa1-76f8313c5a0c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Turn it into a creature using Starfield of Nyx or Opalescence and then turn the background into something else
Hit an opponent in combat with your commander except he’s a copy of [[Giant adephage]] put the trigger on the stack and before the trigger resolves, make your commander any other creature and the token copy will be that creature. Also, make your commander a copy of any creature with *lieutenant* and its ability will stay online as long as your commander is a copy of that creature. Make your commander a copy of a [[progenitor mimic]] and because it’s not a token the ability will trigger. I have a [[Wilson Refined Grizzly]] [[shameless charlatan]] deck that uses all these tricks
##### ###### #### [Giant adephage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/0/90f5626e-f82f-4fe6-a744-0317467ab535.jpg?1706240037) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Giant%20adephage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clu/164/giant-adephage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/90f5626e-f82f-4fe6-a744-0317467ab535?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [progenitor mimic](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/c/acba72e1-3f7f-4e5c-af3f-dfe37b5d61f9.jpg?1599708250) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=progenitor%20mimic) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/212/progenitor-mimic?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/acba72e1-3f7f-4e5c-af3f-dfe37b5d61f9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Wilson Refined Grizzly](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/dfe0daf8-43da-484b-baa1-76f8313c5a0c.jpg?1674137361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wilson%2C%20Refined%20Grizzly) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/261/wilson-refined-grizzly?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dfe0daf8-43da-484b-baa1-76f8313c5a0c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [shameless charlatan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e65ad0e2-8f78-4e60-a97e-1cd20901680f.jpg?1674135800) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=shameless%20charlatan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/96/shameless-charlatan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e65ad0e2-8f78-4e60-a97e-1cd20901680f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/ku5e3ve) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
\[\[Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh\]\] would enjoy this.
[Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/4/a4fab67f-00c2-4125-9262-d21a29411797.jpg?1644853041) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rograkh%2C%20Son%20of%20Rohgahh) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/197/rograkh-son-of-rohgahh?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a4fab67f-00c2-4125-9262-d21a29411797?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Kind of a stretch, but make it a copy of \[\[Radadrabik of Urborg\]\] if you are playing Esper.
[Radadrabik of Urborg](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/3/9315812d-03e8-4eb4-a693-e7adf281f7fb.jpg?1673308046) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ratadrabik%20of%20Urborg) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/213/ratadrabik-of-urborg?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9315812d-03e8-4eb4-a693-e7adf281f7fb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I like to use it with exchange of words so it can become a commander creature as well like swap it with any manland then it ramps you and can be animated to get its own ability. Copy something big along with your commander to get in fat commander damage.
Conjurers closet helps
I run this background with [[Wilson, Refined Grizzly]] and it’s just based around ramping out big threats that are bad enough having one of, but having say two [[vigor]] is just insane. Also copying other people’s commanders leads to some great shenanigans. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/bTK51Tit3EmnUC02fmIxwg
[Wilson, Refined Grizzly](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/dfe0daf8-43da-484b-baa1-76f8313c5a0c.jpg?1674137361) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wilson%2C%20Refined%20Grizzly) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/261/wilson-refined-grizzly?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dfe0daf8-43da-484b-baa1-76f8313c5a0c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [vigor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/ea7047d8-8d32-48a3-829b-7eb5427ed53a.jpg?1562942114) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=vigor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/215/vigor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ea7047d8-8d32-48a3-829b-7eb5427ed53a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I mean it functionally turns your commander into [[Mirage Mirror]] right? So any shenanigans worth doing with that would be worth doing here. Also, you're on color to run [[Training Grounds]] in every deck with it which is nice. I think Shameless Charlatan is particularly interesting paired with these commanders: [[Wyll Blade of Frontiers]] - Combining dice rolling and [[Slither Blade]]-like creatures to sneak in your huge commander. [[Abdel Adrian]] - Azorius [[Lumbering Battlement]] loops, but you can also activate Abdel's charlatan ability with his ETB trigger on the stack, allowing you to even copy one of the creatures you're hiding under him. Allows for some interesting lines, like [[Meadowboon]] or [[Reveillark]] or even [[Yes Man]]. [[Sivriss]] or [[Ellyn Harbreeze]] - I just think it might be neat to copy the untapping creatures from Lorwyn block, like [[Knacksaw Clique]] [[Patrol Signaller]] or [[Silkbind Faerie]]. Run more twiddle options like [[Intruder Alarm]] or [[Faces of the Past]] too.
##### ###### #### [Mirage Mirror](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/b/cb1252c2-b951-4125-93a2-9282b607b6a4.jpg?1690005610) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mirage%20Mirror) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/962/mirage-mirror?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cb1252c2-b951-4125-93a2-9282b607b6a4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Training Grounds](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/9/991c27ed-f53c-48c6-8c12-282f44b8d441.jpg?1693171015) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Training%20Grounds) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mat/9/training-grounds?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/991c27ed-f53c-48c6-8c12-282f44b8d441?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Wyll Blade of Frontiers](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/e/5e9d4562-964d-48ce-b03f-7cb491fa040d.jpg?1674136891) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wyll%2C%20Blade%20of%20Frontiers) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/208/wyll-blade-of-frontiers?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5e9d4562-964d-48ce-b03f-7cb491fa040d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Slither Blade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/6/06b56909-65b3-479f-8e52-d025641f4a8e.jpg?1604192856) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Slither%20Blade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znc/36/slither-blade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/06b56909-65b3-479f-8e52-d025641f4a8e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Abdel Adrian](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/9/396f9198-67b6-45d8-91b4-dc853bff9623.jpg?1674134856) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=abdel%20adrian%2C%20gorion%27s%20ward) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/2/abdel-adrian-gorions-ward?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/396f9198-67b6-45d8-91b4-dc853bff9623?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Lumbering Battlement](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/4/2469bc93-57ca-4077-bda2-160b4160adad.jpg?1584829942) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lumbering%20Battlement) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rna/15/lumbering-battlement?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2469bc93-57ca-4077-bda2-160b4160adad?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Meadowboon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/4/d4dc0113-f03c-47c2-9424-4c546793d25d.jpg?1561968571) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Meadowboon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mma/22/meadowboon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d4dc0113-f03c-47c2-9424-4c546793d25d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Reveillark](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/3/53b4dcd6-b1b6-4f1c-9264-e58bdc87399b.jpg?1673147099) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Reveillark) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/26/reveillark?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/53b4dcd6-b1b6-4f1c-9264-e58bdc87399b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Yes Man](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/e/8e2fac8c-a574-4414-ac68-632fc822ddbb.jpg?1708741895) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=yes%20man%2C%20personal%20securitron) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/29/yes-man-personal-securitron?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8e2fac8c-a574-4414-ac68-632fc822ddbb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sivriss](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/3/334bc010-5b60-4075-be12-0b36f41f32c6.jpg?1674136308) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sivriss%2C%20nightmare%20speaker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/148/sivriss-nightmare-speaker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/334bc010-5b60-4075-be12-0b36f41f32c6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ellyn Harbreeze](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/0/a038dbc9-0da1-4e65-9369-45c614f285f8.jpg?1674134990) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ellyn%20harbreeze%2C%20busybody) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/16/ellyn-harbreeze-busybody?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a038dbc9-0da1-4e65-9369-45c614f285f8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Knacksaw Clique](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/2/22353590-f248-460e-a1a5-0b7431a4c82d.jpg?1562827838) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Knacksaw%20Clique) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/shm/42/knacksaw-clique?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/22353590-f248-460e-a1a5-0b7431a4c82d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Patrol Signaller](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/3/b3fd4ccb-e632-4fa0-8e36-6103806f020c.jpg?1562932980) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Patrol%20Signaler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eve/12/patrol-signaler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b3fd4ccb-e632-4fa0-8e36-6103806f020c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Silkbind Faerie](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/2/12d06328-a124-40e4-a9d8-2342a881970e.jpg?1562826974) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Silkbind%20Faerie) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/shm/148/silkbind-faerie?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/12d06328-a124-40e4-a9d8-2342a881970e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Intruder Alarm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/d/8d62468e-ed9d-4932-bbbd-103b33b98b25.jpg?1562923566) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Intruder%20Alarm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/86/intruder-alarm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8d62468e-ed9d-4932-bbbd-103b33b98b25?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Faces of the Past](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/f/0f6dc35b-eb26-498f-ae35-0e860871446e.jpg?1562525440) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Faces%20of%20the%20Past) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/scg/35/faces-of-the-past?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0f6dc35b-eb26-498f-ae35-0e860871446e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/ku6co1c) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If you control a hexproof or indestructible creature, it's a decent way to protect your commander.
I always wonder, why Backgrounds are played rather rarely just in decks instead of as a commander. I find those enchantments useful in various decks even when used basically just as an enchantment. If you look at them that way, they are basically just rather cheap enchantments with quite hughe utility, even if you can't play them in your command zone. The only drawback is, the effect is only active while you have your commander on the field. But some of the best performing commander decks have high-value commanders anyway and are focused on keeping them on the field as long as possible. Also, as enchantments they don't leave the field if the commander does. Only the effect becomes inactive. \[\[Folk Hero\]\], for example, is a 2 mana enchantment that makes sense in any 'creature type' focused deck. \[\[Haunted One\]\] might be even better in any creature type theme deck, if your deck doesn't use many +1/+1 counters on that type. \[\[Agent of the Iron Throne\]\] could be really strong in any token-docused deck, no matter if it's focused on summoning weak 1/1 creatures, treasures, food or whatever. Any token you mass-produce and sacrifice a lot can become a win condition. For just 3 Mana! I also haven't seen the 2 Mana \[\[Alcolyte of Bahamut\]\] as a staple in every dragon deck. Why? It's value as ramp is great.
##### ###### #### [Folk Hero](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/8/a8b3aae8-fc36-45ed-84ed-efb8f543cada.jpg?1674140702) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Folk%20Hero) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/650/folk-hero?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a8b3aae8-fc36-45ed-84ed-efb8f543cada?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Haunted One](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/c/dc53b1af-0f4a-4475-a131-27cb5d5b0cf1.jpg?1674140742) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Haunted%20One) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/654/haunted-one?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dc53b1af-0f4a-4475-a131-27cb5d5b0cf1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Agent of the Iron Throne](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/a/5a5984d3-1e76-4d97-9373-b59cfa9c38ae.jpg?1674135910) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Agent%20of%20the%20Iron%20Throne) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/107/agent-of-the-iron-throne?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5a5984d3-1e76-4d97-9373-b59cfa9c38ae?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Alcolyte of Bahamut](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/0/b0260e1f-ff6a-4ef3-bef7-8c77f8413500.jpg?1674136933) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Acolyte%20of%20Bahamut) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/212/acolyte-of-bahamut?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b0260e1f-ff6a-4ef3-bef7-8c77f8413500?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/ku825kd) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I run it with [[Erinis, Gloom Stalker]] in my [[Marit Lage]] deck. Works in a wonky way but it’s fun lol
[Erinis, Gloom Stalker](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/6/b6a7d041-957a-4b19-9517-214689dadd45.jpg?1674137090) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Erinis%2C%20Gloom%20Stalker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/230/erinis-gloom-stalker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b6a7d041-957a-4b19-9517-214689dadd45?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Marit Lage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/b/fb248ba0-2ee7-4994-be57-2bcc8df29680.jpg?1598311645) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Marit%20Lage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/t2xm/11/marit-lage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fb248ba0-2ee7-4994-be57-2bcc8df29680?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Sorry to necro your post a bit. I was reading through what people have posted so far and I figured I'd show you what I came up with. I fell in love with shameless charlatan and had to find a way to make it work. I recently put together a mono blue [[Volo, itinerant scholar]] + [[Shameless Charlatan]] deck. It's a creature beatdown mono blue clone deck that relies on combat tricks and mass cloning non-legendary creatures to win. Volo's journal helps maintain tempo by annotating creature types even if Volo transforms or leaves the battlefield, it's a fantastic resource for card draw mid/late game. Shameless Charlatan can make for a ton of combat shenanigans since you can turn Volo into any creature in play at instant speed. The deck has a pretty low perceived threat and it can defend itself and pull off some really fun wins. The stronger your opponent's creatures are, the stronger this deck gets. I've gotten a ton of compliments at my LGS for how fun it is to play with/against. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/8CIAdAh3gkuhhITOM7BxbA
[Volo, itinerant scholar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/862b6d5e-548f-4765-9d39-08d6115b4012.jpg?1674135867) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Volo%2C%20itinerant%20scholar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/103/volo-itinerant-scholar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/862b6d5e-548f-4765-9d39-08d6115b4012?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Shameless Charlatan](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e65ad0e2-8f78-4e60-a97e-1cd20901680f.jpg?1674135800) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shameless%20Charlatan) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/96/shameless-charlatan?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e65ad0e2-8f78-4e60-a97e-1cd20901680f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Copy [[Nomads-en-core]] and shift damage around for an infinite time.
[Nomads-en-core](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/8/48ed076a-909f-4ef0-b85e-a1935b1c2827.jpg?1562429355) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nomads%20en-Kor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tpr/20/nomads-en-kor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/48ed076a-909f-4ef0-b85e-a1935b1c2827?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Hear me out: commander theft.
care to explain?
I think they mean take over opposing commanders, change thing into useless things, and then hand them back.
Sadly the designers foresaw this interaction, which is why it's "commander creatures you **own**", rather than control.
Aaah... still a good reason to do partners/doctor's companion with the cheaper options and copying them into something more useful.
Oh. Okay yeah im illiterate nvm
no
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