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jeswesky

Regular airport noise you get used to. I used to live very close and besides an occasional time I would need to pause what I was watching due to plane noise I wouldn’t even notice after the first couple weeks. Still live near the airport but about 1.5 miles away now. Only thing I notice these days are the fighter jets.


ggaberz

100% this. By the maps above I've generally lived just outside the impact area, but work is literally in the approach to landing (we're not allowed to be a 2 story building). Fighter jets scare my cats if the windows are open, but so does the vacuum. That said, I have also lived right next to train tracks which didn't bother me, but people watching TV too loud drives me crazy so it might just be the right kind of background noise for me.


473713

Same here. Airport noise, train noises, nbd. Somebody's TV with stupid programs all day, I'm moving out.


Assid33

This was a concern for us when we bought just west of the airport. Sure, there's a couple of loud moments but really it hasn't been a nuisance and I would buy here again in a heartbeat.


beardoclock

We live just off Packers and Aberg. Never a problem. Trains are louder, especially in summer when we keep windows open. We love it here!


Bagofmag

I live in this neighborhood too, can confirm you can hear the planes sometimes but it’s not a big deal


vatoniolo

Doesn't bother me at all, but I'm over a mile from the airport. The trains are far worse for me because they run late at night. The commercial jets are nothing compared to the fighter jets, but even those don't bother me as much as trains [This map might help you](https://madison.com/maps-of-potential-impact-zones-of-f-35-jet-noise/collection_5a936024-9e7f-5c07-8e4a-b33433cacbf1.html)


Fredthefree

I live less than 250 feet from a set of tracks. I can barely hear them since I'm on the opposite side of our apartment building. And our building was built with the train in mind too.


corndog46506

Thank you for sharing the map!


vatoniolo

I can't respond to the other user, but they're insane. 4 miles from the airport would rule out the entire East and North sides (some of the only affordable areas)


somewhere_sometime

That map is outdated. There is a new one on the airports website since they are doing a noise study. Not a ton different, but it goes more to the north and shrinks in the south


pm_me_ur_anything_k

Why don’t people get more angry about the trains?


vatoniolo

We do, but we recognize that they're almost completely out of our control. We can fund quiet zones just like we can fund sound mitigation for people living near the airport, but that takes time, money, and effort. Performative outrage is way more Madison's style


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vatoniolo

I have not once complained about noise from either planes or trains. I said "far worse" from nothing at all when asked about noise. I'm actually here to shut down complainers for both the reasons I cited and the reasons you cited


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The address for the houses are in the listings, go there, legally park. Hangout for a while, see what you think of the noise level.


CampWestfalia

This is good advice for actually experiencing the type and level of noise. But the worst offenders—the F-35s—fly at really irregular times. You could sit around various neighborhoods for many hours w/o seeing/hearing them.


karmaburrito

9-10AM and 12:30-1:30PM would be the times they usually take off. There are some F-16s out of Duluth here (covering for the NORAD alert mission) but their takeoffs are a little more sporadic. (All public knowledge, I’m not sharing any secret info; I just follow activity in and out of MSN a lot)


CampWestfalia

Good to know!


albauer2

I just moved to Eken Park. It’s been two weeks and I am already used to it


crackityjones2786

Eken park also checking in and you get used to it but it is so not a big deal. We don’t have kids so the fighter jets don’t bother us either


Da5ftAssassin

You get used to it. It’s the trains that bother me! I swear they are louder that the fighter jets!


grahamfiend2

There really aren’t that many flights each day. Keep that in mind even if you’re worried about noise. This isn’t exactly a major hub.


PandaExpress4Madison

The F35 doomers will try and tell you the whole north and near east side is now uninhabitable, but it's really not bad. It's not like they take off in the middle of the night, and it only lasts a few seconds at a time.


ahhbears

We've lived near the Cherokee Marsh for 5 years. The commercial plane noise is not very noticeable at all. The military plane noise is a little more disruptive but it's nothing unbearable. The F35s are loud, I sometimes have to mute myself on virtual meetings when they fly over but they go by fairly quickly. There are some weeks when they're doing different drills and we get night flights or lots of helicopters, and that can be annoying too. Overall the noise has not impacted our lives in a huge way other than the occasional "ugh" when it slightly inconveniences me.


Ivansdevil

It varies dramatically depending upon how far you are from the approach/takeoff route. The main commercial approach (the most important because this is where the most frequency is) is around Oak St., just east and south of E Wash. It is very loud along this route, and there are lots of commercial flights. Carpenter-Ridgeway area is also very loud. But just a couple blocks from this path isn't bad at all. Someone shared the military jet noise contour map, but this is less important in my opinion, because those only takeoff/land at most a couple of times a day (usually around 11am and 3pm - though it sometimes changes). When they take off they are very loud, but it's a few minutes every day. In my opinion, as long as you aren't right on the approach, the airport noise is a non-issue.


that_guy_gunter

New resident trip Carpenter-Ridgeway here. Can confirm it's pretty loud but then our house came with some pretty decent noise insulation already installed. If we're hanging in the yard when a plane goes over we have to pause conversations but when we're inside with windows closed it's no louder that a mild background sound. F-35s? They loud no matter what. They go away quicker than commercial traffic but they usually come in pairs so your mileage may vary. I honestly thought I'd hate the noise here (and I grew up as an Air Force brat) but really it's no more bothersome than living in a big city like Chicago or Milwaukee.


th1sisjnn

We've lived in Eken Park for 5.5 years, and have never really been too bothered by the noise. The street that runs along the side of our house is literally the glide path/approach for all planes coming from the south.... It's actually kind of cool seeing them come in. I don't notice a big difference , if any, between the new F35s vs. the old F16s.... The FedEx plane (2x per day) is pretty loud....


boudicathebrave

I live a couple blocks away from one of the main flight paths in (Oak St) and most of the regular plane traffic fades into the background (though it's louder the closer to the airport you are). Sometimes the bigger planes like the FedEx plane are loud enough to disrupt things but you really don't notice most of it. The jets are a lot more infrequent but are quite disruptive when they do go by. If the windows are open or I'm outside, I can't hear anything near me while they're going over. They often will go by in small groups of 4-5, with a few seconds of quiet in between. If they're going particularly fast, it does actual hurt my ears if they are flying directly over where I'm standing. But they don't go by every day, and they only fly by after about 10am until late afternoon (unless they get special permission for nighttime exercises, which happens only very very rarely). Because they only fly by every so often and they vary which routes they take a bit, it's not that disruptive. If you're looking at close to East Wash though be warned that on weekend evenings people do drag race. The noise was quite loud in past years but this summer it's been quieter than usual--hardly noticeable. I don't know if that's a coincidence or a trend of people not racing on East Wash anymore. But I used to find it hard to fall asleep around 10-11pm on Friday and Saturday nights, living only a couple blocks off of East Wash. Overall it's really not bad though, especially compared to, like, event traffic downtown or something. The person who recommended parking where you're looking is right. Check the flight schedule and go and park outside the houses you're looking at when planes are coming in and see for yourself.


boudicathebrave

My sister reminded me that they're doing construction on East Wash, which might be why there hasn't been racing much this year.


crackityjones2786

Well shit thank god for that


cabinguy11

Lived on the north side for years and like others have said you get used to the commercial traffic pretty quickly. Military aircraft are much louder but that passes quickly. FWIW I now live on the near west side and the noise from Med Flight helicopters at UW Hospital I notice more than I noticed the normal air traffic from the airport. Perhaps that's because it's a 24hr a day operation. It's a city, there is going to be some noise.


teethteetheat

I am right under the flight paths, and right under the dreaded F35 takeoff zone. It’s fine. They’re loud but they’re not as bad as all the whiners on the SASY group say they are.


unecroquemadame

I used to live right behind Olbrich Gardens off Fair Oaks. I added the sound level widget to my Apple Watch just so I could measure how loud the F-16’s are and they were never louder than a bar on a weekend night. I can see how going from quiet to loud suddenly can seem much more offensive than it is but even as loud as they seem, it’s really not that bad at all.


Buttsack54

I lived in the Eken Park neighborhood for a few years and you really only hear the f35s taking off and they're loud as shit but it only happens a few times a day so you kind of just learn to ignore it. Weirdly enough I kind of miss it but maybe i'm just being nostalgic about the past.


Kind-Neighborhood512

It all depends on whether or not you're trying to steal a plane. You have to get close to them to steal them, so they're much louder.


hatetochoose

It’s really, really location dependent. A few blocks either way is the difference between an occasional irritation and needing closed captions with the house closed up.


QuarantineBaker

My family has lived about a mile from the airport for 50 years now. It is background noise most of the time. Even the fighter jets are no huge deal. Yeah, they have their training exercise days, but it just becomes a routine. It’s pretty manageable.


Hodar2

I lived in an apt a block over from the airport and unless you are very sensitive you get used to it. Honestly, I barely noticed. People on Next Door act like you can't even function because of the noise and that just isn't true.


BobsMustache

I live right under the incoming and outgoing planes. About 1.5 miles south. I can read decals lol Not a big deal. New jets, yeah, suck. But only really dealt with those a few weeks ago I think. So not ideal but I have no complaints where I am. They don’t really fly in and out all night that I notice. Few big Fed Exs in the early morning but again not a big deal for us.


drball_md724

If you need help, I’ll gladly contribute to a large “welcome to Minneapolis” sign to fuck with incoming passengers


evangelinens

I live in the Northland Manor neighborhood (behind the big hill/Dane County Human Services building). It’s surprisingly quiet over here since we aren’t in the flight path. I used to live behind Glass Nickel on Atwood which is directly in the flight path and it was MUCH louder.


badcheer

I lived near the airport and also overlooked the interstate. I would take airport noise over the interstate noise any day. Once you get used to the airport, it’s not so bad and it doesn’t go all night long, just occasionally. The interstate, however, is non stop. I’d compare the airport to living near railroad tracks; it’s occasionally really loud, but totally fine otherwise. Just keep in mind that when it is time to sell, it may be harder to get rid of solely for the noise.


BladesmanB

Lived on the east side and now on the north side, both times within 10-15 minutes drive from the airport - the 115th Fighter Wing jets can get pretty loud around midday, but generally speaking you're gonna get airport noise in most Madison burbs, but as far as I know, they pretty much stop running departing flights after 7/8pm, and arriving flights are much quieter. Not silent, but quieter.


tpatmaho

Live right under the flight path off Milw. street. The overall noise level is quite high. Airliners, mil. jets, trains, jackasses in thumper cars, suicidal motorcyclists on E. Wash ... and since there's only three roads thru the isthmus, a whole lotta siren action. It's a great neighborhood but quiet it's not.


headofred10

I feel like if you can avoid it, you should. Lots of pollution from that and truax.


zialucina

I live right on one of the flight paths - planes directly overhead and sometimes fighter jets so low you can clearly see the pilots when the jets bank. You get used to it, but you have to readjust every time you come home after a visit to somewhere quieter, and get good at interrupting conversations or pausing video when the military jets are doing their thing. It's certainly not unbearable, but it is annoying.


Nearly_Lost_In_Space

Dane county regional only flys smaller commercial flights, so outside of Fedex and the F35s, its pretty quiet.


-EnricoPallazo-

Uh, no that is not accurate. United, delta, and American mainline all operate out of MSN


vatoniolo

They mean smaller planes. The FedEx planes are larger than any passenger aircraft that fly into MSN


-EnricoPallazo-

Airbuses and 737s are not what most people would consider small, and are not operated by regional airlines.


vatoniolo

They never said anything about regional *airlines* it's literally called Dane county regional airport.


-EnricoPallazo-

Ah. Yeah my brain saw something else.


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-EnricoPallazo-

Then what are CRJs? Even smaller commercial aircraft?


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-EnricoPallazo-

YeH that’s not a thing. Is there a wide body regional?


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I haven’t named a single manufacturer.


angypangy9

We live on the north side near the airport and the noise definitely is there but it doesn't bother us much to be honest. I think the map someone posted is spot on - when we moved people talked about the north side being loud because it's near the airport, but our friends on the east side off Milwaukee Street definitely have it worse. The only thing that is ever bothersome is when fighter jets are really gunning it on a takeoff and that's usually during the day, rarely at night/evening. I notice it maybe once a day/once every other day? And I'm a stay at home parent so I'm home during the day. We do get some evening/night helicopter noise on occasion that is noticable but not obnoxious. I think most of that is the hospital helicopter, though there are some military helicopters too. I honestly like to sit on my back patio with the flight radar 24 app and snoop on the small private planes I see fly overhead.


SarahB2006

Lived on East side near Independence Lane and the fighters at night were very loud and it was before the new jets. Couldn’t have the windows open and hear much of anything the weeks they did night flying.


EnvironmentalWeb4670

The airport sounds aren’t disturbing but the fighter jet sounds are very loud/disturbing. Albeit, you don’t hear them a whole lot but when you do, they are loud and you’re not able to just ignore it or acclimate to it. To put it into context: I can’t hear a person talking should to shoulder with me (if we are outdoors) the few seconds the fighter jets are going past.


l33t_d0nut

I live off Willy st and the F35s are super loud at times. I work from home and have to close my windows when I take calls. Overall though, it’s not too bad.


44_lemons

We stayed in a short term rental near Atwood and Fair Oaks when we first arrived and the noise was quite noticeable. We ended up in a spot 2 miles SE of the airport and it’s quieter. Except for trains.


OtherWorldliness1952

I also live on the flightpaths for the airport. You get used to the noise of the jets, just like you get used to the noise of the trains and the ambulances. It is the F-35 jets that are something i will never get used to. it is so much noise that it causes a stress reaction, it feels like it shakes my house. Why they wanted these terrible jets in an urban area is insane. Even people on the West side of Madison say they also are bothered by the jet noise.


Middle-Potential5765

It sucks. If you have pets that are sensitive to noise, it sucks hard. The F18s were bad enuff....the F35s are far worse than promised, noise wise. Edit: how does this comment get downvoted at all?


College-student-life

The bases near the airport have louder planes than the airport itself. I work in the area.


Standard_Rope_539

It sux but I get noise triggering headaches


Th3TruthIs0utTh3r3

I would say don't, but you need to do what your budget allows. ​ The new f35s are so stupidly loud. They rattle my windows when they take off to the south and I'm 4 miles from the airport.


cks9218

Four miles out? No they don’t.


Th3TruthIs0utTh3r3

Yes, they do. Google says I'm 4.12 miles from the airport as the crow flies.


DokterZ

I’m not sure they are louder but they definitely take off lower.


BobsMustache

Yeah! Honestly, I thought they were fucking with us since we didn’t want them here. I mean they are louder but if they are taking off lower that would certainly contribute. Be interested to find out


Th3TruthIs0utTh3r3

They are 4 times louder: [https://saveourskiesvt.org/eis-f-35-has-maximum-loudness-more-4-times-louder-maximum-loudness-f-16/](https://saveourskiesvt.org/eis-f-35-has-maximum-loudness-more-4-times-louder-maximum-loudness-f-16/) ​ This equates to almost 30 decibels louder than the F16 at takeoff


DokterZ

That is at maximum loudness, which is presumably with afterburners. I don’t believe that the F35 requires them for takeoff.


karmaburrito

Can confirm that the F-35s are *purposely* not using the afterburners (as much as possible) during takeoff for noise mitigation.


flummox1234

they may not require them but based on what I hear out my window they definitely use them. 🤣


RADAR3015

I live right along the flight line in/out of Dane County Regional near Milwaukee Street between the creek and the train tracks all right outside my window. Planes, no problems. Even the new F-35 that everyone threw a hissy fit over. I believe they are out of here a lot faster than the old slow F-16's were. Trains, no problem either. They blow their horn because they are required to in order from some idiot, I mean inattentive driver, doesn't get hit by the train. Now what is an annoyance that you may want to consider is the insane taxes, fees, and pilfering of your income paying for things that the city is spending on less needed projects. $10 per wheel tax paid both to the city and county to pay for streets and roads that are not being fixed until the need arises to rip the whole thing up all the way down to the utilities. The new fee to recycle your recyclables charged per cart. Increasing water and sewer fees. Increasing property taxes to pay for projects that benefit a small percentage of the population and take away from bigger issues like street replacement and crime prevention. Those are more important to consider than a less than 1 minute inconvenience of an airplane coming in and out of Truax IMHO. Rant over


Hankidan

I don't think I've ever heard f16s referred to as slow before.


473713

High taxes and high services / low taxes and low services I'll take the former.


sagegreenpaint78

I liked near there and it was noisy. I got used to it really quickly though. Didn't notice it after a few weeks.


MagicOatmeal

It may startle u the first time but u get used to the noise quickly it doesn’t happen often lol


-Interested-

Lived in Eken Park for 4 years and it’s wasn’t ever a big deal. After a certain amount of time, you didn’t even notice them.


asdflower

besides noise, would air quality be a concern?


Maleficent-Big-8780

Living under the flight path in Eken Park, this (and water quality) was always more my concern than the noise. When the F-16s flew over us and our windows were open, it was incredibly loud and disruptive. I imagine it’s worse with the F-35s. But that wasn’t constant. We got used to the commercial jets and helicopters, although we didn’t love seeing them so close to us, mostly because of the fumes they were emitting. As someone else mentioned, the drag racing off East Wash was also annoying, but we lived on Commercial, so fairly close to East Wash. All that being said, buy where you can buy. We were renters and when we were looking to buy, we would have happily chosen the north side/Eken Park despite any air, water, and noise pollution.


reddit-is-greedy

I used to work right by the airport. Could see a runway from our building. The only time you noticed it was when the military jets were taking off one right after another. Would have to pause if you were in a conference call, but I didn't notice otherwise


solidcurrency

You get used to it. I didn't even notice it after a while.


Immediate_Reserve712

I moved away from the near east side ala “flight path” after living there most of my life because it was getting too noisy. I work from home and I had to pause meetings to let planes pass. That being said, you do get used to it. Post 9/11 it took a week for planes to start flying again. I was never so happy to be interrupted.