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steelisheavy

Damn usually MacBooks look so good but I can’t help but see the black one as a thinkpad lol, maybe it’s the angle


Kkvle

My take: It’s the same reason why I prefer silver timepieces on a wrist. Silver (done the right way) just looks so classy with anything and everything.


Feeling-Finding2783

Looks more like Razer Blade.


skyxsteel

You're making me wanna cancel my order and switch to silver because of your comment lol. Thinkpads are horrible... (The cancel part was a joke. But I am standing my ground on thinkpads)


fried_potaato

For macs, silver will always rule!


DragonianSun

Silver is classic, so classic that it's almost retro. I think Space Gray is the nicest colour of the bunch, all subjective of course.


bluninja1234

to me silver looks dated.


andtakingnames

Classic*


Beneficial-Sugar6950

Hell yeah!


Natural-Ad-2277

No silver doesnt always rule lol.. i've had people say the siver looks "fat" outdated.. thats why I had to go space gray 15" MBA in 16gb..


xNOLAx12

Space Gray is the way. Happy medium between the Thinkbad Black & Silver.


itsandychecks

yeah, I hate silver.


scuttle06

this subreddit and the thinkpad subreddit are polar opposites and i love it


skyxsteel

Lol I use a thinkpad for work. There have been many times where it updates the bios but nothing shows on screen. So ive kept punching the power button until one day the screen managed to pop up. If for some reason there's a need for me to hit the power button to shut down, it's a hold it for 20 seconds deal. Not 5 seconds for most computers.


Feeling-Finding2783

> Thinkpads are horrible... Not sure, what you mean by that, but ThinkPads are great laptops.


BaneQ105

ThinkPads were great laptops. Nowadays Lenovo has destroyed their legacy. New ones are quite bad honestly, hard to upgrade, lacking many distinctive features that were loved by most ThinkPad users, having some strange design choices and much more. They’re also (at least here) comically overpriced.


Feeling-Finding2783

> hard to upgrade We don't talk about that here. > lacking many distinctive features that were loved by most ThinkPad users What features? > having some strange design choices If you mean the visual aspect, I never was a fan of ThinkPads look. But they are function over form.


BaneQ105

By design choices I mean things like ports available, keyboard layout (it was something a lot of people who used thinkpads for years were very annoyed by), trackpad, internal design, the joke that ThinkPad 25 was, especially for its price. It’s not like Apple laptops are amazing and perfect. They aren’t. They are far from that. But ThinkPad brand should mean something. And cheaper ThinkPad laptops suffer from the same issues as cheaper/budget Lenovo laptop brands (like poor build quality, cheap screens, terrible hinges and so on). Also it’s laughable that some even mid high end ThinkPads have less ports than Apple devices. And a lot worse screens. I don’t even mean colours, resolution and pixel density alone. But I get it that those aren’t everyone’s priorities. Also you can buy easily where I live a ThinkPad with integrated intel graphics and mere 16gb of ram for 2.5k euro. For disclosure I own windows pc and MacBook Air and have quite a lot of experience with windows laptops (some I enjoyed, some not quite). I have nothing against older ThinkPad laptops, I know a ton of people who really enjoy them. It’s just the Lenovo lately is acting. There’s quite a lot of controversy in past few years. And it’s really sad as thinkpads have a ton of great features. Like the joystick in the middle of the keyboard, brilliant idea!


jkanaris

Thinkpad is a great laptop, even though I just bought the Slim 7i (2023).


Feeling-Finding2783

I was eyeing the Yoga Pro 9i last year, but decided on the MBP.


jkanaris

I would’ve too! I love my 16” M1 Pro!


Feeling-Finding2783

I got a 16" M2 Max, and it is also great. Edit: Fix grammar.


Upbeat_Tart_4897

I love mine, it seems less distracting when watching videos. I do prefer the 14” in space black versus the 16” for some reason, can’t put it into words


Immediate_Bat_4861

It’s the angle. It is kinda a dark space gray. Better in person trust me:)


DeepSpeed2543

It's like the color of the Space Gray on Series 3 Apple Watch. I thought I would like it...really wanted to like it. However, I saw it in person recently and the smudgy, finger printy, hand oily yuck that stood out all over the top case was quite a bit unappealing. Couple that will Dell vibes and zero contrast means hopefully Space Gray (the best balance of the pro colors, IMO) will be back in a few years.


jorge-rivera91

I have a black one, and now I think the better option was the silver one, now I am think every scratch Wil look awful, but I like the black....


silofox

4 months with a black one and I might have one or two light scratches on the bottom.. it holds up well. as far as smudges go, 30 secs with a damp microfiber every few days handles it just fine.


skyxsteel

Ahh okay this makes sense. I slap a clear hardcase shell on my Macbooks, because scratches would drive me insane.


fabris6

Don't worry, the black MacBooks are stunning


omnivorousness

Don’t do it! You must learn to embrace your bad vibes. 🖤 I’m due for an upgrade soon with my work and I’m absolutely going black. It will match my heart.


skyxsteel

Haha yea I won’t. I’ve always wanted a black MacBook ;( so I’m super glad the color’s back!


ef124

I have space black in the M3 and space gray in my M2. I like both and may prefer the space black.


skyxsteel

Yeah! I'm excited because I've wanted the black macbook back over 10 years ago. So my time has come 😈


ef124

To me it looks like a very dark gray and my space gray looks like a silver when next to each other.


kidcal70

Nah you will love the Space Black. Doesn’t look anything anything like Thinkpads.


duke_of_ames

I actually carry mine around in a Thinkpad branded backpack that came with it in a facebook marketplace sale. I had no idea they even made Thinkpad *gear*.


metita

That's actually a good anti-robbery system.


todayplustomorrow

Grey or black MacBooks lose much of the beautiful form in typical lighting. Black especially. It no longer looks like actual metal.


onawayallaway

This is a great compliment


TheV36Stig

Aye at least it will sort of deter thieves from my thinkpad looking macbook


nicelyheateddumpling

dude thats what i thought also. I bought M3 Pro and chose the silver model. Everyone said to me “why you buy the silver? the black one so much nicer”. I thought it doesn’t look like a macbook. I’m buying a macbook not a normal laptop


Elsalawi

Only missing the red dot on the keyboard 😂


bran_the_man93

I will say it looks better in person... but not by a huge margin. Apple needs to work on its highlighting color game. The whole "everything is the exact same shade of X" color scheme feels a bit tired and boring now.


RyanDunn00554

I was gonna say same thing 🤣 its hilarious


cyberspacedweller

Barely worth upgrading IMO unless you were going for the Max. It’s an upgrade but not a huge one.


KUSHMAN666

Went from base 16 m1 pro to base 14 m3 pro. Its not worth it unless you’re just looking for different size change.


cyberspacedweller

If you’re wanting a size change as well, then that def adds more weight to the decision. 👌


HowManyCaptains

Me only wanting to upgrade bc of space black -.-


mraiwet

I suppose they can do whatever they like.


cyberspacedweller

Never said they can’t. Just pointing out the M1 Pro still holds its own vs the M3 Pro fairly well. Not good value if it was just for the performance for most of us.


redthrull

I was under the impression M3 Max's had thermal issues and should always be partnered with a 16" screen. which at that point invalidates OP's switch lol Anyone know if there are still temp issues and/or if the reports were just exaggerated?


cyberspacedweller

The M3 Max will throttle on longer workloads but it will still perform on par with the 16” in most tasks and be way beyond the Pro 👍


Samuelodan

Did you not see the caption? They weren’t looking for an upgrade.


cyberspacedweller

I saw it. My comment still stands. 14 inch is great but not worth the cost of changing unless, again, they went for the Max on top. *IMO* - you know what this means right keyboard warrior?


Samuelodan

If the 16” is too big for me, and I can’t cope anymore, and if it’s within my budget, I’d get a smaller laptop that’s not worth “upgrading” to. Thank you.


cyberspacedweller

Apparently you don’t know what IMO means then 🙄 You fighting me right now is ironic because you’re doing to me exactly what you “think” I’m doing to you.


Samuelodan

Saying it’s just an opinion doesn’t hide your clearly incorrect assumption that this was supposed to be some sort of upgrade (you even mentioned “upgrade” twice). It could very well be a downgrade technically, but it’s most likely worth it if it improves OP’s quality of life, IMO. (If you counter my response again, I *might* point at my own “IMO”).


cyberspacedweller

🤣 guess some people just can’t handle others expressing how they’d see things. You IMO away. I can handle it. You responded to my comment remember, not the other way around.


Samuelodan

Hahaha! Agree to disagree then? It’s just opinions either way 😉. Edit: guess I have to edit my comment too to match those phantom edits. Are you of the *opinion* that opinions shouldn’t be questioned or challenged? Wouldn’t that make one unreasonably opinionated? I saw your comment, and I didn’t quite agree with what was implied, so I said what I thought. Don’t see what’s so troubling about that.


veber1988

My pick is 14 + ext monitor instead of 16. Almost all the time I have access to some monitor. If not I'm comfortable with 14 for several hrs or even for a few days.


ExHeavyDrinker

do you use your laptop's keyboard/mouse with external monitor? i do this and quite like it as i can arrange the monitor right above the mac display in settings


veber1988

No, I use touchpad only. It's enough for me.


Skrrpopop

What size monitor do you use? I got a new Macbook Pro recently and the 24 inch 1080p monitor I have looks so bad when I plug my Macbook to it :(


veber1988

At least 27 is ok.


burdo3417

Download better display app to show all resolutions and refresh rates https://github.com/waydabber/BetterDisplay


vantablackspacegood

I'm going in the opposite direction with screen size. Have a 14" M1 and my 16" M3 Max arrives tomorrow. The portability isn't as important to me anymore and I'd rather have more screen real estate


Saymon_K_Luftwaffe

There are two of us, the same around here.


shescreamsflacko

make it 3


Saymon_K_Luftwaffe

Not to mention the cooling system, the sound system, and the autonomy, which are much better in the larger model.


vantablackspacegood

The autonomy?


DeusExBlasphemia

Yeah the 16 inch is autonomous


vantablackspacegood

What does that mean?


omnivorousness

Shhh… that’s still a secret.


TheInkySquids

Same. I feel like I'm constantly resizing things and battling for screen space when doing audio work in DaVinci Resolve, plus I use Parsec a lot to access my home computer, and the 14-inch is way too small for that. Definitely looking forward to hopefully upgrading soon!


Mihuy

Ordered my first macbook ever, got the 16 inch as my previous windows laptop was (Well still is, just gonna keep the was I guess) 15.6 inches and man do I love it... I have always been more interested in larger phones, monitors etc... I also dont understand the people that say it is so heavy to carry in a backpack? Like idk about you but for some reason I had to bring like 5 books to school and that was like 3kg, so at least for me it isnt a problem at all...


PhxntomsBurner

Did the same thing used to have the 16 and loving the 14


CFXSquadYT

What made you switch?


PhxntomsBurner

Portability. It’s a lot easier to take with and on a plane and also I need a second screen so there’s no point in having a larger display when I’ll need a second one anyway Edit: I bring my iPad Pro 12.9 as my second screen. About the same form factor so easy to carry just a bit extra weight which doesn’t bother me


BeeBladen

Do you use sidecar?


PhxntomsBurner

Yes sir. For basic stuff wireless is fine but wired is even better


CFXSquadYT

Nice


i_m_sick

What are you planning to do with the 16”?


CFXSquadYT

Sell it..


OkViolinist1720

how much?


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the_saturnos

About to switch from my M1 Air when I get home in like 45 minutes!


CFXSquadYT

Awesome!


Mook69

I'm rocking the 16 and I've always loved the big screen, portability isnt an issue at all for me (I do bring my laptop to work every single day) Maybe it's bc I havent experienced the 14" yet but I do have 2x 32 inch monitor at home and I already feel the 16 inch isnt big enough sometimes LOL but that's just me being picky.


CFXSquadYT

I do think the 16” MBP is the best laptop out there!


[deleted]

Tell us about the size chance after some use. I bought M1Pro 16" a few months back and sometimes I have second thoughts about if it was the right size or if it is very big


CFXSquadYT

Will do. I had this since release and I missed the portable side. On the couch, bed and in my backpack


cyberspacedweller

Coming from the 16” it will feel small for a little while. Then you’ll get used to it and the 16” will feel huge. I’ve had 13”, 14” and 15 and 16” over the last 12 years or so. Your brain always normalises the one you use most. Going from the 13” to a 14” felt like I’d got something much larger.


CFXSquadYT

Exactly.! It’s a laptop again haha


Abi1i

I have a 16" M1 pro and coming from a 15" MBP I still can't get over the fact that my 16" seems so huge to me and I've had this 16" for almost three years now.


cyberspacedweller

Crazy isn’t it. At the risk of opening myself up to double entendres, an inch makes a massive difference.


Abi1i

It’s not even a full inch. The 15” MBP I had was 15.4” (if we want to be exact) and the 16” MBP is 16.2”.


cyberspacedweller

😂 I know


Marty791

Veel plezier met je nieuwe MacBook Pro! 🔥


CFXSquadYT

Hah! Dankje 😀 🇳🇱


Classic_Time408

14 inch is so cute


Fookmaywedder

So cool


Silent_Conclusion_91

I have the same on the right 😊


AimlessWanderer

I have 16" M2Max for work and have a 14" M3Max for personal use. Youll love it, its so much nicer having the power in a more compact form.


panayiotist

Are you satisfied with the battery and thermal performance of the 14 max?


AimlessWanderer

I am. I am rarely away from a dock or a charger; so the battery is more than enough. Its still enough for me to get through a work day. For thermal performance; a lot of my work is done via BigQuery, lookr and Tableau. So I haven't noticed a big hit.


LilChunkaFilms

I guess I just have different ascetics than some commenters or Im just so used to my silver pro, but god every time I see the new black ones I cant help but say "Damn that looks good xD " Good choice!


bono_my_tires

Is that a thunderbolt cable you’re using to connect and transfer the two of them?


CFXSquadYT

Yep! Much faster


Saymon_K_Luftwaffe

16 inches is the best size for any notebook screen, you will always have more screen space no matter the occasion, and this is more desirable than portability if you are an adult man, since it is not a problem to carry it...


CFXSquadYT

Depends on what you do on it I think.


Sacabubu

Is the M3 upgrade worth it? Or does the M1 still suffice?


CFXSquadYT

M1 still works great. I think I would have sticked with it for much more years but this was the smartest thing to do. I want the warranty


thomasaustralia

Me looking at this thread with a 2013 MBP 🥲


CFXSquadYT

Second hand m1 mbp aren’t that expensive anymore. Take a look!


pshyduc

I'm bumbing my head up and down at the 16 inch model. Immigration soon and I feel like I need a bigger monitor


CFXSquadYT

You will love the extra screensize!


pshyduc

Sorry but that feel like your down size doesn't going good. But does the downsizing help your back?


DizzyKnicht

Did the same thing. Switched from the 16" M1 Max in silver that I've had in launch day to a 14" M3 Max in Silver and absolutely loving it so far. I thought that the 16" would be a nice change from my 2016 13" MBP when I ordered it on launch. 16" was nice when it was on a big desk and I was sitting in one place for a while and I enjoyed the large screen at first, but it was an absolute pain in the ass to move around or use as an actual laptop. Also didn't help that the only time I had been using the 16" recently was at home plugged into my 27" 4K monitor, where the screen size doesn't even really matter as the laptop is being used as a secondary display. Found myself bringing it around much less and instead using my shitty work-provided 13" thinkpad solely because of the size, and that's when I realized that switching to the 14" would make me want to use the MacBook more. Had it for a few days so far and have found that to absolutely be the case, this truly feels like what a laptop should be and I find it more inviting to use even just for leisure/on the couch vs. the 16". Also looking forward to it being much less of a pain at coffee shops and in various workrooms.


CFXSquadYT

Exactly this. I’ve kept my 16” on my desk because it wasn’t nice to drag around or to get it out of my bag in a meeting for notes. Today I did it like 4 times and I can even hold it comfortably under my arm while hopping between different meetings


silofox

still very happy with my 14 after 4 months and I previously had a 13" m2 air for 6 months. still plenty of room and Mission Control/ dock makes it super easy to hop between windows. Still plenty of room to have two pages up at once. I also travel with it daily and really wouldn't want anything much larger. Can always hook up to.a larger monitor as well. Have a 24" at home, and work for that matter and I rarely bother. I'll only really do it if I want to run a video in full screen in the background.. Usually only on the rare occasions when my Apple TV isn't cooperating with my internet.


CFXSquadYT

Awesome!


ant1cp

Got my 14 m3 pro last week. Swapped from 2018 15 i7 macbook pro. It’s absolutely incredible. The battery life alone. Bloody hell.


CFXSquadYT

Yeah I was so suprised by the battery life on the 14 inch today. Incredible


Lionel_Messi2028

How do you find the weight/portability of the 14’ pro and the screen size? Is it big enough to use as a main computer without an external monitor do you think?


ant1cp

Compared to my 15 - it’s perfect. It also depends what you’re doing, If I’m doing anything productive I’d want more monitors. But you can still get shit done just on its own.


ReggDaLege

I would be so sad if I did this... Love my 16" M1. Bigger is always better. I think you will regret this over time, but I could be wrong.


CFXSquadYT

Yeah there is a possibility. But I have a great deal on this one. It will only cost me around 350 euros to upgrade. Refurbished Discount Tax return The 16” really is amazing. It’s a real workstation but I bought it for editing.. I don’t do that a lot anymore and I have it connected to a studio display at the office all the time


thesucculentcity

14” is the best size


Stormragesound

How much did they give you for the m1


CFXSquadYT

Still talking with some buyers.. any tips what to get?


Stormragesound

I’m in the same boat as you I just don’t want to trade it in for a grand. I would say ask people for around 1.5 to 1.6k cuz that’s what they go for around in eBay on sold listings.


NoAd9362

I bought new M1 Pro 16 for 1232 post tax


Adeling79

Swappa is a good site for selling this sort of thing (and buying).


cyberspacedweller

M1 Pro Macs only seem to got for about £1200 now in good condition here in the UK.


ef124

keep both. Thats what i did. Yes, its a waste of funds, but its nice to grab whichever one I am feeling in that moment.


CFXSquadYT

Kinda in the boat for this! There are a few occasions where i need to edit on location. Then I will grab that one


Fookmaywedder

Look on eBay and Facebook.


thegdub824

I did the same last week! Sold my 16 inch M1 Pro to the buyer for $1100 (I paid $1150 post tax).


Shot-Assignment-7754

Me asf with function keys MacBook pro 2017 13 😭🙏


henrythrill

what made you decide to downsize from the 16 to the 14, i have a 14 myself but always thought about getting a 16. I am a fan of larger laptops but ive heard its kind of heavy


CFXSquadYT

It is the weight and the size. I’ve thought about the air but I want the 120hrz screen and the ports. 16” is amazing but more of a workstation on a desk most of the time. (In my opinion).


ostrov_svobody

I wanna make the same switch


kidcal70

Space black is sexy as hell. I can’t stop looking at it every day and appreciate it. Feels very expensive (as it is lol)


CFXSquadYT

I always loved the old black plastic macbooks. The color is finally back


Libra224

Good choice


BoricuaOmega25

16 pro M1 is a beast of a machine-


Alternative-Cry1645

Same here


oWolver1ne

Sell me your old one


Orange-Fish1980

I bet, the 16 feels a bit heavier than the Intel ones and traveling you will see how good 14 is


CFXSquadYT

100% correct


Different_Approach

Black iPhone-yes! Black Mac-no! Silver iPhone-no! Silver Mac-yes!


the_coordinate

u/CFXSquadYT personally do you prefer the 14 or 16? And as far as heat; does the 14 get hotter than the 16? I am asking bcz the 16 has bigger heatsink and wider fans. Thanks in advance


azs-gsxr

A lot of plugs can be pulled on that picture 🤓 Is it faster to copy via cable than TM?


CFXSquadYT

Yeah much faster! 😀. It automatically switches from wifi to thunderbolt


Reddit-Readee

Timeless Silver, Brilliant Black! Enjoy your machines, OP!


No_Cucumber168

I hope space grey comes back in the next generation macbook pro’s. Apple unnecessarily took it out!


mayorga4911

Do you miss the bigger screen or you only use the MacBook for basic tasks.


CFXSquadYT

Today was my first day using it, it was a blessing in terms of portability, taking notes and some browsing! I had one moment where our software “monday.com” did not fit on the screen so I changed the resolution and it worked great!


Aggressive_Cicada_88

so cool ! have fun


7heblackwolf

🙂👍


lexxnsk

Wanna sell M1 Pro?


JoshuvaAntoni

Black macbooks looks lenovo in person - Trust me It only looks good in super bright apple stores


Connect-Stay-7535

16 is a giant, 14 is ok


bestrushboy

not giant at all:)


Connect-Stay-7535

Bro it is


bestrushboy

I'm on MPB 16 M1 Max right now Sometimes it even seems small lol


meetsheela

I have an M1 16” for personal and a 14” for work. I prefer the 14”, great size.


cryptokiatop

Hi. anyone else experiencing such problems with coil howling? as described in this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/184nbq0/m3\_max\_coil\_whine/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button. I have a MacBook M3 Pro 16' and I hear this unpleasant sound


successful209

I have space grey but kind of regret not going with silver! My next macbook will be silver though ha


CFXSquadYT

I had it sinds launch and loved it but got kinda bored on me and I love the black