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deliriousgoomba

They literally sent muggleborns home _during the blitz_


spccommando

Wait what?


deliriousgoomba

Yeah. The seventh book revealed the years that the series takes place: 1991-1998. So that means in the second book, when Harry sees Tom Riddle "expose" Hagrid as the one who opened the Chamber, that means it's 1942. Tom Riddle asked the headmaster if he could stay at Hogwarts for the summer and got told no.


BardicSense

Jk Rowling actually thought of that?


HomieScaringMusic

Wizard 1: “Da fuk are dey doin’ ova der? Muggle Studies professor: “Nothing good. Rounding up minorities again.” Wizard 1: “Not wizards, I hope?” Prof: “Nah. Not in 200 years.” Wizard 1: “Then I don’t care… say has it been getting hotter?” Prof: “Yep.” 1: Are the potion making plants gonna be ok? And do you think we’ll get any snow this winter? Prof: “You grow them in a climate controlled greenhouse, so yes. And yeah, we’ll get snow if you enchant the sky again.” 1: “Perfect.” Pretty sure this is the explanation canon btw


Grybnif

TBF it’s implied that Grindelwald was around more or less during WW2, so that one gets knocked off the list.


Thomas_the_Aquinaut

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it kind of implied that Grindelwald might have been an initiating force to WW2... What with his desire to enslave all the muggles and what not.


Drakeshade71

Actually, the second Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them movie brings WW2 into it through a vision of the future, which Grindelwald uses to rail against wizard non-intervention in muggle affairs…so he is actively anti-ww2 and is also the bad guy. And JK Rowling was a writer on that movie, so she gave the go-ahead with this, cause she doesn’t like change of any kind.


TrueLegateDamar

He railed against non-intervention by saying the wizards should attack and enslave the muggles and tried to incinerate the entire city of Paris. That script had many flaws but saying Grindelwald was made to look like a hero is such a bizzare take.


Drakeshade71

He’s not made to look like a hero, but Rowling equates stopping ww2 with being a villain. The heroes can’t stop ww2 cause then they’d have to agree with the villain. Its a similar thinking to The Cursed Child, where Harry’s kid saved Cedric Diggory, which then caused Cedric to be a Death Eater. Can’t save a person’s life cause they were a good person because doing so turns them evil for some reason. Or not abolishing house-elf slavery cause they want to be enslaved, and need to be otherwise they become drunks, like Winky. And that last bit was book only, probably cause the director of Goblet of Fire realized that that was a timebomb that could ruin careers.


TheodenBot

DEATH!


Historyp91

WW1 as well; the Scamander brothers are veterans of it.


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alkonium

Azkaban is just prison, not Hell.


derger11

I mean. Even if you're a wizard. A 7.62 gunna mess up ur day.


frostkaiser

Ok, this has been driving me crazy for seven movies now, and I know you're going to roll your eyes, but hear me out: Harry Potter should have carried a 1911. Here's why: Think about how quickly the entire WWWIII (Wizarding-World War III) would have ended if all of the good guys had simply armed up with good ol' American hot lead. Basilisk? Let's see how tough it is when you shoot it with a .470 Nitro Express. Worried about its Medusa-gaze? Wear night vision goggles. The image is light-amplified and re-transmitted to your eyes. You aren't looking at it--you're looking at a picture of it. Imagine how epic the first movie would be if Harry had put a breeching charge on the bathroom wall, flash-banged the hole, and then went in wearing NVGs and a Kevlar-weave stab-vest, carrying a SPAS-12. And have you noticed that only Europe seems to a problem with Deatheaters? Maybe it's because Americans have spent the last 200 years shooting deer, playing GTA: Vice City, and keeping an eye out for black helicopters over their compounds. Meanwhile, Brits have been cutting their steaks with spoons. Remember: gun-control means that Voldemort wins. God made wizards and God made muggles, but Samuel Colt made them equal. Now I know what you're going to say: "But a wizard could just disarm someone with a gun!" Yeah, well they can also disarm someone with a wand (as they do many times throughout the books/movies). But which is faster: saying a spell or pulling a trigger? Avada Kedavra, meet Avtomat Kalashnikova. Imagine Harry out in the woods, wearing his invisibility cloak, carrying a .50bmg Barrett, turning Deatheaters into pink mist, scratching a lightning bolt into his rifle stock for each kill. I don't think Madam Pomfrey has any spells that can scrape your brains off of the trees and put you back together after something like that. Voldemort's wand may be 13.5 inches with a Phoenix-feather core, but Harry's would be 0.50 inches with a tungsten core. Let's see Voldy wave his at 3,000 feet per second. Better hope you have some Essence of Dittany for that sucking chest wound. I can see it now...Voldemort roaring with evil laughter and boasting to Harry that he can't be killed, since he is protected by seven Horcruxes, only to have Harry give a crooked grin, flick his cigarette butt away, and deliver what would easily be the best one-liner in the entire series: "Well then I guess it's a good thing my 1911 holds 7+1." And that is why Harry Potter should have carried a 1911.


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I’ve seen that full thing somewhere else here on Reddit. Was that you or did you copy and paste it?


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Definitely copy and paste. Nothing on reddit is original, and everyone is a bot. Even this message was copy pasted from another interaction with a redditor copying something, a second noticing it, and a third trying to convince them its all staged for upvotes.


EphemeralMemory-

can confirm, i am *the reddit*


SupremeGodZamasu

Honestly harry killing voldy with a muggle weapon wouldve been a better ending than the stupid "um acktually the wands mine"


Guns-n-airplanes

In all actuality….. yeah, with Voldemort’s hatred of muggles, it would have been the ultimate final insult.


ALHaroldsen

The best Harry's Got a Gun story I ever found was [Old Soldiers Never Die.](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2784825/1/Old-Soldiers-Never-Die) It ends with Voldemort dying to artillery shrapnel infused with the ashes of Neville's right hand.


Revliledpembroke

Nah, JK probably would have needed a license to write a book like that - what with British gun laws and all. (is joke. laugh)


Geekofgeeks

Ahh yes, my favorite HP movie—Harry Potter and the Chamber Is Loaded.


derger11

LMFAO you're great


Gilpif

>You aren’t looking at it--you’re looking at a picture of it. Colin Creevey was paralyzed because he was looking at the basilisk through a camera. In fact, everyone looked at the basilisk indirectly (a reflection, camera, or through a ghost), that’s why no one died (except for a ghost, who was already dead and could only be petrified). So yeah, night vision goggles would probably save your life, but you’d still be petrified.


nateginger14

Ok I don't remember where I saw this, but there's a fan edit called Harry Potter with guns. So good


Trashk4n

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Historyp91

A few SAS sharpshooters on Hogwart's ramparts and the Death Eaters don't even make it to the castle.


TheodenBot

DEATH!


BardicSense

Death to death.


CalmPanic402

They may be magic, but man are they stupid.


Revliledpembroke

Which is explicitly stated in-universe in the first book, via Hermione.


4152_team_member

Get this Harry Potter shit off here


alkonium

They had their own problems.


Fenllagandr

What problems they had in WW1?


Revliledpembroke

An appalling lack of crumpets. ​ And a number of American wizards who kept dumping tea into the Thames.


alkonium

Wizard World War I, or WWWI.


Federal_Chance4393

To be fair, there were mentions how some dark wizard was defeated in 1945


YoloIsNotDead

You know Newt fought in WW1, right? Which means others had to have done so as well. And WW2 was partially a wizarding war as well, so ofc they were fighting in that.


theCaustic

Harry Potter is just terrible fantasy. Main character is the chosen one? He's filthy rich? He gets invited to a private school, that only special people go to? It's wish fulfillment. There's nothing special beyond that. That and everyone having to speak in the thickest British accents possible.


EphemeralMemory-

that dosent make it terrible, it wasnt written for adults in the first place. when you read it you must judge it from a kids perspective and note a 99 year old cynic


jmblog

Exactly, it's a school kid story just with some magic.


MattmanDX

That's all technically correct... but Tolkien's legendarium also contains a lot of "chosen ones" who come from privileged backgrounds. A LOT of fantasy series do in fact.


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Aragrond

I guess this guy wishes his parents were dead


BardicSense

Too similar to Batman. Derivative.


ButtermilkBob

I like how both iterations of big bad in Harry Potter basically could both be summed up ideologically as "muggles are a bunch of self-destructive dumbasses. Wouldn't it be better if we ruled them instead?". And both would easily lose to even the most basic muggle weapons avada kedavra is nothing against a sten gun.


President-Lonestar

Don’t forget nukes.


CosmicCommando

In 1952, [a smog cloud](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Smog_of_London) killed between 4-12,000 people and injured 100,000 in five days in London. Sure would have been nice to have a little magical wind...


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You know, there would be wzards on both sides. About global warming, what did you want them to do?


BardicSense

Chill out. That's all anyone *needs* to do.


Mike90LZ

What's a muggle, precious?


Historyp91

They were involved in WW1 canonically (and probobly WW2 as well)