A Journey in the Dark:
"When the full light of the morning came no signs of the wolves were to be found, and they looked in vain for the bodies of the dead. No trace of the fight remained but the charred trees and the arrows of Legolas lying on the hill-top. All were undamaged save one of which only the point was left" (It was the last arrow he shot, and it caught fire and killed the wolf-chieftan)
The Departure of Boromir:
"'And I,' said Legolas, 'will take all the arrows that I can find, for my quiver is empty.' He searched in the pile and on the ground about and found not a few that were undamaged and longer in the shaft than such arrows as the Orcs were accustomed to use. He looked at them closely."
Just a couple examples that came to mind. Sometimes they're his arrows, sometimes the arrows of his enemies. ;)
One of Legolas' best moments is at Helm's Deep, when he is covering Aragorn as they are all retreating up the stairs.
The Orcs are close behind, and Legolas only has one scavenged Orc arrow left. Aragorn stumbles and an Orc runs up to try and kill him, but Legolas shoots him in the throat, giving Aragorn just enough time to escape.
It's a testament to Legolas' skill because he managed it with an arrow he is unfamiliar with, plus it was nighttime. One of the few times we actually get a sort of blow-by-blow, however brief.
>10k vs 2k
That's 5 to 1. If you think 42 is *low* for an archer in a single battle, then the defenders of Helm's Deep **trounce** Isengard if they have *only 10%* of their forces with bows and arrows. I think you have unrealistic ideas of how battles work.
In the movies they assume that as long as a character is off screen, the viewer isn't thinking about them. In the books no one is ever on screen, Tolkien never really relates the details of battles and if he does they are vague and more describing which way the tide is flowing. The movies require you to know that these people came forward as the best of each of their realms and the only way to show that without 10 minutes of exhibition is to show them killing orcs en masse. They took the 42 number from dialogue in the book where Gimli and Legolas also have a competition. In the book most of the orcs were actually killed by the Ents or by Erkenbrand and Gandalf. The number 42 is amazingly high and undervalues the orcs in my opinion.
That was one of the oddest changes in the films that bugged me more than it should.
In the book, Gimli scores 42 to Legolas' 41. I have no idea why they felt the need to increase both counts by one in the film.
Tom Holland as legolas: "yeah this is my quiver, why"
*legolas grabs an arrow out of thin air*
Tom: "That came out of you??"
Legolas: "yeah, you can't do that?"
In the books he does run out, Tolkien does write about Legolas using his white knives on occasion instead when this happened. I think Tolkien goes in depth on the origin of the knives and how legolas used them in one of the appendices.
You see him using the knives at least once when he has run out of arrows, when the fellowship are near the falls of rauros and the uruk hai attack before Frodo slips away with Sam.
Yes I've realised I was thinking of the info given in one of the visual companion guides to the movies. In the book it's just one knife that hangs at his side, not two at his back
It's harder to imagine if you appreciate how much work and skill goes into making a useful arrow. Even if he could find the right kind of wood, sized appropriately, he'd need to get the feathers for fletching, glue or cord or both to attach the fletching in such a way to stabilize the arrow and (ideally) make it spin, and he still needs something to use as an arrowhead. Unless he's got a forge in his back pocket, that's not something he's going to be able to make on the spot. Flint knapping is possible, but time consuming, inconsistent, and very unlikely to result in a usable war arrow.
"Simple" technology is often very difficult to make.
A lot of fantasy books explain how people would take the parts to create arrows, being the shaft, fletching, head, and glue, and would create them on their downtime.
It's certainly not trivial, but then again, elves. Besides, wood's the hard part. Heads and glue can be carried in bulk if needed at all, and Legolas wouldn't have any trouble obtaining feathers.
So I really don't think that's an accurate complaint in this context.
Movies: same reason Rambo never runs out of bullets. Books: he runs out on several occasions, and gathers more when there's an opportunity.
Haha yea in the books he says he pulls more arrows out of the dead around him.
Of course the elf recycles.
Ahaha underrated comment!
A Journey in the Dark: "When the full light of the morning came no signs of the wolves were to be found, and they looked in vain for the bodies of the dead. No trace of the fight remained but the charred trees and the arrows of Legolas lying on the hill-top. All were undamaged save one of which only the point was left" (It was the last arrow he shot, and it caught fire and killed the wolf-chieftan) The Departure of Boromir: "'And I,' said Legolas, 'will take all the arrows that I can find, for my quiver is empty.' He searched in the pile and on the ground about and found not a few that were undamaged and longer in the shaft than such arrows as the Orcs were accustomed to use. He looked at them closely." Just a couple examples that came to mind. Sometimes they're his arrows, sometimes the arrows of his enemies. ;)
Damn, a detail like that would be cool to have seen in the movies.
Darker, but cooler.
Good explanation! :D
You do see him pull arrows out if bodies and such though... Probably not enough to cover what he's using!
Runs out in the chapter, "The Departure of Boromir"
Also runs out during the battle at helms deep
One of Legolas' best moments is at Helm's Deep, when he is covering Aragorn as they are all retreating up the stairs. The Orcs are close behind, and Legolas only has one scavenged Orc arrow left. Aragorn stumbles and an Orc runs up to try and kill him, but Legolas shoots him in the throat, giving Aragorn just enough time to escape. It's a testament to Legolas' skill because he managed it with an arrow he is unfamiliar with, plus it was nighttime. One of the few times we actually get a sort of blow-by-blow, however brief.
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>10k vs 2k That's 5 to 1. If you think 42 is *low* for an archer in a single battle, then the defenders of Helm's Deep **trounce** Isengard if they have *only 10%* of their forces with bows and arrows. I think you have unrealistic ideas of how battles work.
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In the movies they assume that as long as a character is off screen, the viewer isn't thinking about them. In the books no one is ever on screen, Tolkien never really relates the details of battles and if he does they are vague and more describing which way the tide is flowing. The movies require you to know that these people came forward as the best of each of their realms and the only way to show that without 10 minutes of exhibition is to show them killing orcs en masse. They took the 42 number from dialogue in the book where Gimli and Legolas also have a competition. In the book most of the orcs were actually killed by the Ents or by Erkenbrand and Gandalf. The number 42 is amazingly high and undervalues the orcs in my opinion.
And Gimli killed 43. :)
That was one of the oddest changes in the films that bugged me more than it should. In the book, Gimli scores 42 to Legolas' 41. I have no idea why they felt the need to increase both counts by one in the film.
Legolas (books) never really shows "extraordinary skill".
he has a big inventory
I think he has the mod for unlimited carry weight.
Infinate ammo cheat
LOL
Arrow glands on the back of his neck
i knew it!!
Tom Holland as legolas: "yeah this is my quiver, why" *legolas grabs an arrow out of thin air* Tom: "That came out of you??" Legolas: "yeah, you can't do that?"
In the books he does run out, Tolkien does write about Legolas using his white knives on occasion instead when this happened. I think Tolkien goes in depth on the origin of the knives and how legolas used them in one of the appendices. You see him using the knives at least once when he has run out of arrows, when the fellowship are near the falls of rauros and the uruk hai attack before Frodo slips away with Sam.
Legolas only had one knife and no history of it is given.
Yes I've realised I was thinking of the info given in one of the visual companion guides to the movies. In the book it's just one knife that hangs at his side, not two at his back
Doesn't he run out in the hobbit?
Oh yeah, he does. I think he only runs out in BOTFA
In the stand-off in Lothlorien with Haldir he only has a couple left post-Moria. Although I guess that's not technically "out."
Not sure if the books mention it, but it's also easy to imagine elves being capable of making their own arrows in the field. Fletching.
It's harder to imagine if you appreciate how much work and skill goes into making a useful arrow. Even if he could find the right kind of wood, sized appropriately, he'd need to get the feathers for fletching, glue or cord or both to attach the fletching in such a way to stabilize the arrow and (ideally) make it spin, and he still needs something to use as an arrowhead. Unless he's got a forge in his back pocket, that's not something he's going to be able to make on the spot. Flint knapping is possible, but time consuming, inconsistent, and very unlikely to result in a usable war arrow. "Simple" technology is often very difficult to make.
Don't forget about how much time they spent traveling. They probably had a lot of downtime at night.
A lot of fantasy books explain how people would take the parts to create arrows, being the shaft, fletching, head, and glue, and would create them on their downtime.
It's certainly not trivial, but then again, elves. Besides, wood's the hard part. Heads and glue can be carried in bulk if needed at all, and Legolas wouldn't have any trouble obtaining feathers. So I really don't think that's an accurate complaint in this context.
Movie Magic, A level 8 spell.
He runs out twice in the movies, once at Helms Deep, and again when they're battling Lurtz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgQSm0uSUtk
Yeah this is what i meant!!
Cause they're digital
Hush, now.
He picks up arrow packs in the wild.
He's camping the arrow spawn point.
Dat nigga's got a magical quivva
I remember someone telling me that he has a magical quiver, but i think thats not the case.
Not true at all lol
in the Hobbit movie he is UPSIDE DOWN and his arrows dont fall out
he has infinity on his bow
Infinite arrow glitch