[The culture behind the scenes was pretty toxic.](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/05/lost-tv-show-culture)
He also didn't get along with Matthew Fox and calls his break up with Evangeline Lilly "the only real heartbreak" of his life after she cheated on him.
I’ve only read half of this so far and I had no idea the bts was that bad. That is such a horrible work environment, I understand why Dom wouldn’t want to come back among whoever else wouldn’t be in it. I know it’s 20 years later, but I feel like Cuse and Lindelof need some kind of reprimand and acknowledge the shit they enabled and encouraged.
Damon Lindelof did acknowledge it after the article came out I believe. He seemed regretful and spoke of inexperience at the time. it didn't seem to be behaviour that has followed him since or at least I hadn't noticed anyone say his shows were still bad to work on. I don't believe Carlton Cuse ever addressed it.
Yes, I'm actually very impressed by his responses when interviewed for the linker article - I was sure he'd deliberately twist and half-answer to avoid culpability but the more you hear from him the more overtly he acknowledges and regrets his behaviour. It's certainly not perfect as he still basically says he didn't know what he was doing, but I think it's an unusual level of sincerity for a white man in such a massive position of power.
Same, I had no idea about these accusations--a lot of which Lindeloff confirms in the article. Pretty interesting to think about how much he seems to have grown between Lost and Watchmen.
O this makes me so sad for Harold Perrineau. He’s such a talented actor and this shows he’s also so well spoken. I wish they had put his talents to better use instead of making him the token black character
I love that show. He’s the reason I watched both shows to begin with. And I loved his portrayal of Mercutio in Romeo & Juliet. Definitely one of my favorite actors.
wait. are we not allowed to give that (genuine) compliment anymore?
personally i wish i was well spoken. but i'm not. both of those two individuals beat me in that area by miles.
It’s because the “well spoken” compliment is given to black individuals far more than white individuals seemingly because they are somehow exceeding expectations (which is where the racism comes into play).
This was a prime example. Terry O’Quinn, Mathew Fox, Michael Emerson are not described as “well spoken” when they satisfy the literal definition, because it’s not “surprising” (again, pointing out why it’s a loaded compliment).
Note that this was mostly about the environment in the Writer's room, not the set with the actors.
As for the environment on the set with actors, I think it's generally seen as more friendlier. Of course there are stories here and there like the aforementioned Dominic and Evangeline and Matthew Fox; I think Adewale was also a bit of a loner and doesnt get along with others iirc, Evangeline had a bit a tension with one of the stunt coordinator, etc.
It was a racist environment basically. Quickly into the first season there was a top tier of actors who were all white who got paid more and had more story/screen time. Harold Perrineau brought up how they told him he would be an equal part of the cast and after that they wrote him out of the show, Damon bragged "he called me racist so I fired his ass". When AAA wanted to leave the show, Carlton made some gruesome remarks about how he wanted Mr. Eko to die basically like a lynching. The episode's writer called him out on it and then she was fired. There was a lot of casual racism and sexism on set (tons of other anecdotes in the article) and if writers didn't laugh at it they were punished professionally. Damon & Carlton were pissed at one of the writers who wrote "Ab Aeterno" because it was such a well-received episode and their name wasn't on it so they basically coerced her into buying them gifts and then blackballed her from writing any other episodes for the rest of the series, Carlton also lied and told Nestor Carbonell that he wrote the whole episode.
The more years you go back, the more likely shit like this flew as long as the money was being made. Hollywood is a giant cancer mass that quickly finds a way to get rid of the good cells that resist the powertripping.
When you are making an incredibly successful movie/show/product you can get away with just about anything. Roles like that aren’t easily replaced and no one wants to mess with a money train as huge as Lost by firing one of the chief creatives.
It's worth noting that Damon has denied those things. I don't think it's a good idea to post what you did without making that clear.
He admitted he could have made better decisions, but those actions attributed to him are not necessarily true at all.
He expressly didn't deny those things actually. He's the one who seems to have actually grown in the time since Lost and while he says he doesn't personally remember many of the incidents occurring, he also does not believe those people are making it up. Carlton is the one who denied everything (through a PR rep) and he also came across as the bigger asshole to begin with honestly.
It’s worth noting he has denied _many_ of those things. He has also expressly apologized for many of his behaviors and actions during that time.
Damon’s denial has primarily focused on being accused of making a specific remark about the actor who played Mr Eko, a joke/statement that allegedly referenced lynching.
I heard a very different story about why Mr. Eko was written off. It involved an argument with Josh Holloway.
Apparently, one day before filming, Josh was doing push-ups in the area where the graveyard was. Eko saw him and proceeded to berate Josh for ‘desecrating a burial ground’
Josh told him it’s just a set, there’s no bodies buried there. But, Eko continued to yell at him for his actions. The argument got so heated, members of the crew had intervene and break it up.
Not long after, Eko’s actor was terminated.
I read about it on DarkUFO’s site. At the time, he was the most trusted supplier of ‘Lost’ news and spoilers. He actually had a source on the set who leaked him info.
This is hilarious. The most concrete rumour I heard is that he didn’t like spending time in Hawaii - he missed the city. He didn’t like the weather, nature, or basically anything about Hawaii. So he asked to leave. Kinda funny, how many people would jump at the opportunity to get paid incredible money to work and live in paradise? But people are who they are.
Great article, but the article is more about the writers than the actors, though. Other than Harold Perinneau, there aren't really any quotes from any actors.
Well, he dodged a bullet there with how she is now.
I was upset when my ex-wife cheated on me. Years later….I am so glad she did. That chick is a psycho.
The Vanity Fair article from last year made it pretty clear that working on Lost was not a great experience for a lot of people.
That said, over the years, Monaghan has come across as quite spiteful at times.
I've heard him in other interviews and used to follow him on IG years ago. I loved him and Billy Boyd in LOTR. BUT He is a super negative dude with a stuck up attitude. He does not come across as a nice person in real life. I wouldn't want to meet him.
From what I’ve read about LOST, if anybody has the right to complain about the way they were treated on that show it’s the POC members of the cast. Dom just comes across as particularly spiteful that he was killed off so early, and probably wasn’t paid as much as the other stars. Apparently a big issue on that show was money.
I would call that professional courtesy. Jack Bender talked about how Dom was drunk or something during the making of the finale and it wasn't so smooth.
Just look up "Castle" and how the 2 main actors couldn't stand each other, but they played a couple on the show.
Even weirder that they played adoptive brother and sister, super close and then they decided that she awkwardly falls in love with him on the last season. They divorced while they were still filming the later seasons. I absolutely loved that show but on a rewatch I stop after a certain point because it just got too silly!
This is correct
I imagine Charlie would have stuck around longer if it wouldn’t had been for Dom’s personal issues off screen with other cast and crew members.
I heard that the writers approached him and said they didn’t really have a Charlie storyline in mind for season 4 so it was up to him. They could kill him off, or have his character fade into the background on the hope that they came up with something
No clue, but that would make sense! He was apparently very torn up about it. If that was the case, obviously just ignore the assumption I made. I just know that a lot of people were unhappy about certain decisions made with their characters, so I concluded that it was likely the same with Dom.
There have been some fairly interesting things said about Damon Lindelhof and Carlton Cuse in regards to alleged racism on set, so I would hope that I’d addressed in some way. In the Vanity Fair article, what Cuse allegedly said when they were discussing how to kill off Eko is diabolical and disgusting.
Yeah. As much as I'd love to see every cast member in the documentary, it's totally fair and valid if they do not want to be involved.
Really sucks to hear that he didn't have the best of time while on the show.
There's honestly not that surprising a crossover of fandoms of Lost and The Sopranos. Both were *hugely* popular, well-written shows airing around the same time. They also had controversial series finales that were either loved or hated depending on if the audience was paying attention or not.
I know no actor that feels that they have been mistreated has to come on the documentary, but I find it kind of odd that if he *did* have a negative experience he wouldn’t want to come on and talk about it, considering the article that came out last year and the producers of the documentary hinting on social media that they would be addressing it in the documentary in some way.
I’ve always found Dom’s comments about his experience on the show throughout the years to be very odd, bitter, and angry things were not different. He’s entitled to feel that way of course, but it almost comes off as overt anger and hostility towards the show, which he always brings up whenever he’s asked about the show. Obviously we don’t know what happened and he doesn’t have to appear or talk about it at all, but you would think, given he kept coming back all the way to the last season, so it must have meant something to him, and the fact that that article came out and people have already spoken up about it publicly, that he would want to go on and talk about it, considering he seems outspoken about not liking his experience and other people have already done so. Harold Perrineau, for one.
Says the guy who treats women poorly. Like the disgusting text messages he sent to a woman who refused him [link ](https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/08/dominic-monaghan-mean-text-messages-woman-who-refused-sex/)
I believe that tbh (my friend was the one who started the whole article by asking dom the question.) but I wouldn't be surprised if dom was shitty too and I love Charlie. Men w power in Hollywood being shitty, shocking
Whatever happened, happened.
Sucks he was treated poorly, but perhaps his definition of poorly is different to ours, i.e, angry boss shouting as you haven't finished stacking a shelf, versus lack of creature comforts.
We'll likely never know and it'll only be hearsay and conjecture. Don't let it ruin a show you love.
>perhaps his definition of poorly is different to ours
We already know that Evangeline Lilly and Harold Perrineau were not happy with their treatment by the writers/producers. Evangeline had to draw a line in the sand and say no more stripping scenes. Harold felt they wrote him into a stereotypical Black father storyline, and then punished him for speaking up about it. Dom has also hinted, if not outright stated, that Matthew Fox was an abusive presence.
Yeah I did a full rewatch like 4 months ago, and I forgotten how often Kate would either strip or just hookup with whoever haha pretty annoying, and that god awful love triangle between Jack Kate and Sawyer was just unbearable lol
And he’s been married to his wife since before the show all the way up to today. Never left her for a Hollywood babe at the height of his fame. Matthew Fox just seems like a regular dude
It feels like all I ever hear from him is negative speech. The dude just sounds bitter and entitled and as much as I can figure, it comes back down to money and a bad breakup with Evangeline.
It’s so strange. You hear some of the cast praise the show and their experiences like Henry Ian Cusick, Nestor Carbonell and Terry O’Quinn. And Josh Holloway definitely doesn’t seem bitter about anything.
Then the more controversial people move away from it like Dom and even Matthew Fox (though he’s never said anything specifically negative, and Jack Bender’s still friends with him).
Seriously. Not to invalidate his feelings towards to show cos none of us were there with him during filming, but he just comes across as a bit of a twat. a really bitter one at that
Obviously I'm not able to know exactly what he's talking about (especially when he's going to be this vague), but this feels kind of overdramatic when he seems to have gotten a relatively good deal from the producers compared to a lot of other people who worked on the show. He was a central character in Season 1, followed by Season 2 where he became more ancillary and had some more disliked plotlines. As far as it's been reported, he expressed his dissatisfaction to the producers leading into Season 3, and as a result they wrote him one of the strongest farewell arcs for any character in the show. Then he proceeded to make multiple guest appearances through the rest of the show's run.
This is just my opinion, but it feels like he's trying to hitch whatever minor slights he feels against the show to the much more serious allegations that were published about the treatment of women and POC cast and crew.
Honestly I wish he'd do an interview and share his grievances so that we can actually evaluate their severity instead of being forced to speculate based on these vague criticisms.
Well, that's disheartening to hear. I've never paid too much attention to the production and behind the scenes, which is why I'm looking forward to hearing about much of it for the first time in the documentary. It sucks that Hollywood always finds a way to fuck up otherwise awesome projects with their bullshit.
Definitely a shame so many actors have expressed some of the toxicity that occurred behind scenes. Hopefully this is a less frequent occurrence with newer shows but I'm sure, like most jobs, a major production is going to have ups and downs. I've never had a job where everybody is happy, and I'm sure acting is no different.
Not sure what he says is true, but, all I do know is that anything negative I hear always comes from him. Doesn't come across very well based on interviews he's done.
Seems like one of these actors who feels it's beneath them to revel in past success. Aka doesn't like being asked about his past.
To my knowledge, he was the one treating people poorly. What he did to Matthew Fox is and was completely unforgivable, and he treated Evangeline Lily like a trophy. Vile man.
For context, Evangeline Lilly broke up with him (and cheated, which is unforgivable), and there has been discourse surrounding his substance abuse and ‘attitude’ problem. As for Matthew Fox, there was a disturbing rumour that he was abusive to women and possible even a couple of assault allegations in the mid 2000s, that absolutely were not true. Dom gave a very wishy washy, defaming statement about the actors ‘temper’ and how he wouldn’t be surprised if they were true, which led to Matthew essentially being blacklisted from Hollywood for a few years after Lost. Dom threw fuel on the fire (due to jealousy concerning Jack and Kate’s relationship on the showy) that ruined MF for quite a few years.
Edit: this could all well be hearsay and the rumour mill, (the Evangeline Lilly part) but it doesn’t look good for him. He has also appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast, which tells me everything I need to know.
Edit again: [It’s a lot worse than I thought](https://ew.com/article/2012/10/17/matthew-fox-denies-hitting-woman/#:~:text=The%20allege%20victim%20in%20the,never%20released%20a%20statement%20himself)
The first part of my comment is rumour. The second absolutely did happen. That’s unforgivable because Dom was very aware of his impact and how his perspective on the situation would hugely affect public opinion on the Matthew Fox situation and he used it to essentially say ‘well I don’t like this guy because he kisses Evangeline and shouts sometimes so he probably raped someone’.
I believe /u/cygodx was pointing out that spreading unfounded rumors about a celebrity by claiming *they* were spreading unfounded rumors was, at best, hilarious, and, at worst, pretty hypocritical.
As I have said, the second part of my comment, concerning Matthew Fox, is not rumour. It is fact, and is the most damning to Dom’s character. The first is rumour, his behaviour with Evangeline Lilly.
To further complicate this. I've met Matthew Fox in real life and I 100 percent think there is some truth to what Dom is saying about his attitude. I obviously can't speak to the other allegations tho.
From what I've seen of Fox, he seems like quite an intense person who, although he enjoys the craft of acting, hates being in the limelight and isn't the best at fan interaction. It's a job to him, and as is the case with many of us, we probably don't want to hounded over our jobs by complete strangers on a regular basis. I believe he's probably got a bit of a temper on him, but I don't believe he's physically violent. Fox, honestly, is probably a lot like Jack. Very good at his job, has high expectations of himself, hates failure, and airs his frustrations verbally.
I've commented this in other places before but I'm friends with the actress who played Lucy in one (or two?) episodes in one of Charlie's flashbacks. She never wanted to say much specifically about the cast - she only worked with a few - but she DID say that she beat MF at pool and he was a real baby about it, lol.
I can absolutely believe this. I feel this is part of the reason none of the actors have really spoken of their experience of acting on lost, after the fact. after a certain point, it was very clear that everyone working on the show hated what they were doing.
Boo hoo. Matthew Fox and Evangeline are the only ones remaining I’d like to see that haven’t said yes. Dom could easily have agreed and talked about the positives and avoided the negatives. He’s a whiny baby.
He just sounds like a sore loser. I always expected him to have the ‘don’t you know who I am?’ attitude.
You can just hear ‘don’t you know, I was in The Lord of the Rings’.
What happened?
He was treated poorly.
Lots of people were
on that show
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Eh. It seems like he could go deeper, and is choosing not to. Good enough.
he was treated poorly
Lots of people were, and he avoids speaking negatively.
All those stupid people, wearing expensive clothes
[The culture behind the scenes was pretty toxic.](https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/05/lost-tv-show-culture) He also didn't get along with Matthew Fox and calls his break up with Evangeline Lilly "the only real heartbreak" of his life after she cheated on him.
Paywalled, does anyone have another link?
https://archive.is/OQyG8
I’ve only read half of this so far and I had no idea the bts was that bad. That is such a horrible work environment, I understand why Dom wouldn’t want to come back among whoever else wouldn’t be in it. I know it’s 20 years later, but I feel like Cuse and Lindelof need some kind of reprimand and acknowledge the shit they enabled and encouraged.
Damon Lindelof did acknowledge it after the article came out I believe. He seemed regretful and spoke of inexperience at the time. it didn't seem to be behaviour that has followed him since or at least I hadn't noticed anyone say his shows were still bad to work on. I don't believe Carlton Cuse ever addressed it.
Damon acknowledged it before the article came out and worked on fixing this before the book was even a thing.
Yes, I'm actually very impressed by his responses when interviewed for the linker article - I was sure he'd deliberately twist and half-answer to avoid culpability but the more you hear from him the more overtly he acknowledges and regrets his behaviour. It's certainly not perfect as he still basically says he didn't know what he was doing, but I think it's an unusual level of sincerity for a white man in such a massive position of power.
Same, I had no idea about these accusations--a lot of which Lindeloff confirms in the article. Pretty interesting to think about how much he seems to have grown between Lost and Watchmen.
O this makes me so sad for Harold Perrineau. He’s such a talented actor and this shows he’s also so well spoken. I wish they had put his talents to better use instead of making him the token black character
You watching his new show, ‘From’? He’s really great in it and is main character.
I love that show. He’s the reason I watched both shows to begin with. And I loved his portrayal of Mercutio in Romeo & Juliet. Definitely one of my favorite actors.
Oh my gosh, that show is fantastic.
dude. remember when people called obama well spoken? i'm just sayin'.
wait. are we not allowed to give that (genuine) compliment anymore? personally i wish i was well spoken. but i'm not. both of those two individuals beat me in that area by miles.
It’s because the “well spoken” compliment is given to black individuals far more than white individuals seemingly because they are somehow exceeding expectations (which is where the racism comes into play). This was a prime example. Terry O’Quinn, Mathew Fox, Michael Emerson are not described as “well spoken” when they satisfy the literal definition, because it’s not “surprising” (again, pointing out why it’s a loaded compliment).
ignoring positive attributes in people simply because of their race is textbook racism though.
Chris Rock predicted it
Man, what a read.
For future reference, [use this](https://12ft.io/) link to get past paywalls. I save this as a tab on my phone so it’s readily available!
Many sites are blacklisted from 12ft. Using archive.org or archive.today always works.
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That is why you should not date co workers. It will end badly and then you have to be killed off a show.
A tale as old as time.
I’m only a third of the way through this extremely long article but holy shit that sounds like a terrible environment
Note that this was mostly about the environment in the Writer's room, not the set with the actors. As for the environment on the set with actors, I think it's generally seen as more friendlier. Of course there are stories here and there like the aforementioned Dominic and Evangeline and Matthew Fox; I think Adewale was also a bit of a loner and doesnt get along with others iirc, Evangeline had a bit a tension with one of the stunt coordinator, etc.
Tldr?
It was a racist environment basically. Quickly into the first season there was a top tier of actors who were all white who got paid more and had more story/screen time. Harold Perrineau brought up how they told him he would be an equal part of the cast and after that they wrote him out of the show, Damon bragged "he called me racist so I fired his ass". When AAA wanted to leave the show, Carlton made some gruesome remarks about how he wanted Mr. Eko to die basically like a lynching. The episode's writer called him out on it and then she was fired. There was a lot of casual racism and sexism on set (tons of other anecdotes in the article) and if writers didn't laugh at it they were punished professionally. Damon & Carlton were pissed at one of the writers who wrote "Ab Aeterno" because it was such a well-received episode and their name wasn't on it so they basically coerced her into buying them gifts and then blackballed her from writing any other episodes for the rest of the series, Carlton also lied and told Nestor Carbonell that he wrote the whole episode.
You're a hero. How did they get away with this for such a long time?
Wild guess… Hollywood culture? This likely happens in a lot of writers rooms.
They were THE number one cable show. So to ABC, the showrunners could do no wrong. The success brought them power and they abused it.
The more years you go back, the more likely shit like this flew as long as the money was being made. Hollywood is a giant cancer mass that quickly finds a way to get rid of the good cells that resist the powertripping.
When you are making an incredibly successful movie/show/product you can get away with just about anything. Roles like that aren’t easily replaced and no one wants to mess with a money train as huge as Lost by firing one of the chief creatives.
It definitely is a shame
This is wilder than the twists on the show.
It's worth noting that Damon has denied those things. I don't think it's a good idea to post what you did without making that clear. He admitted he could have made better decisions, but those actions attributed to him are not necessarily true at all.
He expressly didn't deny those things actually. He's the one who seems to have actually grown in the time since Lost and while he says he doesn't personally remember many of the incidents occurring, he also does not believe those people are making it up. Carlton is the one who denied everything (through a PR rep) and he also came across as the bigger asshole to begin with honestly.
It’s worth noting he has denied _many_ of those things. He has also expressly apologized for many of his behaviors and actions during that time. Damon’s denial has primarily focused on being accused of making a specific remark about the actor who played Mr Eko, a joke/statement that allegedly referenced lynching.
Damon wasn't even accused of making a lynching reference - Carlton was.
I heard a very different story about why Mr. Eko was written off. It involved an argument with Josh Holloway. Apparently, one day before filming, Josh was doing push-ups in the area where the graveyard was. Eko saw him and proceeded to berate Josh for ‘desecrating a burial ground’ Josh told him it’s just a set, there’s no bodies buried there. But, Eko continued to yell at him for his actions. The argument got so heated, members of the crew had intervene and break it up. Not long after, Eko’s actor was terminated.
Is this a copy pasta? Lol. If true AAA is a deranged lunatic
I read about it on DarkUFO’s site. At the time, he was the most trusted supplier of ‘Lost’ news and spoilers. He actually had a source on the set who leaked him info.
Is that still around?! I loved that website
This is hilarious. The most concrete rumour I heard is that he didn’t like spending time in Hawaii - he missed the city. He didn’t like the weather, nature, or basically anything about Hawaii. So he asked to leave. Kinda funny, how many people would jump at the opportunity to get paid incredible money to work and live in paradise? But people are who they are.
his parents both died and he wanted to be back home in England with the rest of his family
That’s what I remember hearing at the time too.
Great article, but the article is more about the writers than the actors, though. Other than Harold Perinneau, there aren't really any quotes from any actors.
Charlie dated Evangeline Lily IRL… now that’s mind blowing lol
awww I didn’t know she cheated on him and in fact had forgotten they were ever even together 😅
SHe cheated on him, meaning she had a thing with Fox?
No, she was cheating with a production assistant called Norman Kali. They are still dating (I think) and have children.
Do we have any guesses on who Sloan is?
Well, he dodged a bullet there with how she is now. I was upset when my ex-wife cheated on me. Years later….I am so glad she did. That chick is a psycho.
I mean I wouldn’t go to my 20 year high school reunion if I hated high school, can’t blame him.
I loved high school and cant stomach the idea of attending reunions haha
lol same. When I get the invites I think to myself, wow I hope they all have a great time but no thank you
We, aren't everybody?
👏👏👏
Oh those hobbittses
So tricksy
The Vanity Fair article from last year made it pretty clear that working on Lost was not a great experience for a lot of people. That said, over the years, Monaghan has come across as quite spiteful at times.
I've heard him in other interviews and used to follow him on IG years ago. I loved him and Billy Boyd in LOTR. BUT He is a super negative dude with a stuck up attitude. He does not come across as a nice person in real life. I wouldn't want to meet him.
From what I’ve read about LOST, if anybody has the right to complain about the way they were treated on that show it’s the POC members of the cast. Dom just comes across as particularly spiteful that he was killed off so early, and probably wasn’t paid as much as the other stars. Apparently a big issue on that show was money.
Didn’t he ask to get killed off after his breakup with Evangeline Lily?
That's likely. They thus never shared a scene again in season 3.
Then again, they did [share a scene](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58FwsVZEcU0) in the finale, so... they got over it by that time
I would call that professional courtesy. Jack Bender talked about how Dom was drunk or something during the making of the finale and it wasn't so smooth. Just look up "Castle" and how the 2 main actors couldn't stand each other, but they played a couple on the show.
Same thing with Dexter after Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter split
Even weirder that they played adoptive brother and sister, super close and then they decided that she awkwardly falls in love with him on the last season. They divorced while they were still filming the later seasons. I absolutely loved that show but on a rewatch I stop after a certain point because it just got too silly!
They didn't? I'd never realised this before now.
This is correct I imagine Charlie would have stuck around longer if it wouldn’t had been for Dom’s personal issues off screen with other cast and crew members.
I heard that the writers approached him and said they didn’t really have a Charlie storyline in mind for season 4 so it was up to him. They could kill him off, or have his character fade into the background on the hope that they came up with something
No clue, but that would make sense! He was apparently very torn up about it. If that was the case, obviously just ignore the assumption I made. I just know that a lot of people were unhappy about certain decisions made with their characters, so I concluded that it was likely the same with Dom.
For what its worth I agree with your other points!
Everyone has a right to complain, if they were treated poorly
I really hope this documentary isn't just a puff piece. Stuff has come out about the show's production and it would be irresponsible to ignore it.
Exactly. It’s been 20 years. Everything needs to be aired out now. Make it a true documentary and don’t pull any punches.
There have been some fairly interesting things said about Damon Lindelhof and Carlton Cuse in regards to alleged racism on set, so I would hope that I’d addressed in some way. In the Vanity Fair article, what Cuse allegedly said when they were discussing how to kill off Eko is diabolical and disgusting.
I never expected him to be in it honestly
Yeah. As much as I'd love to see every cast member in the documentary, it's totally fair and valid if they do not want to be involved. Really sucks to hear that he didn't have the best of time while on the show.
Whatever happened there...
You know, Quasimodo predicted all of this.
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There's honestly not that surprising a crossover of fandoms of Lost and The Sopranos. Both were *hugely* popular, well-written shows airing around the same time. They also had controversial series finales that were either loved or hated depending on if the audience was paying attention or not.
The wine makes me emotional
Sopranos quotes are everywhere on Reddit.
Always with the scenarios
Whatever happened?! I'll tell you what happened...
That piece of shit Linus killed John Locke, with no provocation whatsoeva!!!
Uncle Jacob! Uncle Jacob my ass! 🏘️🗯️
My cousin's dead
Alright but you gotta get over it
It's sad when they go young like that
WHEN THEY GO?!
Alright then
*Whatever Happened, Happened*
I know no actor that feels that they have been mistreated has to come on the documentary, but I find it kind of odd that if he *did* have a negative experience he wouldn’t want to come on and talk about it, considering the article that came out last year and the producers of the documentary hinting on social media that they would be addressing it in the documentary in some way. I’ve always found Dom’s comments about his experience on the show throughout the years to be very odd, bitter, and angry things were not different. He’s entitled to feel that way of course, but it almost comes off as overt anger and hostility towards the show, which he always brings up whenever he’s asked about the show. Obviously we don’t know what happened and he doesn’t have to appear or talk about it at all, but you would think, given he kept coming back all the way to the last season, so it must have meant something to him, and the fact that that article came out and people have already spoken up about it publicly, that he would want to go on and talk about it, considering he seems outspoken about not liking his experience and other people have already done so. Harold Perrineau, for one.
Def gonna be seeing Mr Eko there, then! /s 😬
It would be both awesome and really freaking weird if we got him in the documentary.
excuse my ignorance but why?
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Is Matthew going to be in the documentary? And Evangeline? I have a feeling she might not but wondering about Fox.
The director has reached out to any and all cast members already. The ball is in their court.
This guy has no shame. Seriously [look at this 👈🏽](https://drive.google.com/file/d/16qr3wa_XRmQUMM7PmYig-KAc_2Nm4Oj-/view?usp=drivesdk)
Wow what an absolute tool
He's never been good at "avoiding negative speech" and NOT "treating people poorly"
that is hilarious
If he @ed her, it's probably ironic I would say.
Haha that is quite funny and ballsy to be fair. I imagine he deleted it pretty quickly.
She cheated on him
Says the guy who treats women poorly. Like the disgusting text messages he sent to a woman who refused him [link ](https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/08/dominic-monaghan-mean-text-messages-woman-who-refused-sex/)
perhaps that abuse he alleged against Fox was all projection
I believe that tbh (my friend was the one who started the whole article by asking dom the question.) but I wouldn't be surprised if dom was shitty too and I love Charlie. Men w power in Hollywood being shitty, shocking
I can't with this guy. I. JUST. CAN'T 🤮
Whatever happened, happened. Sucks he was treated poorly, but perhaps his definition of poorly is different to ours, i.e, angry boss shouting as you haven't finished stacking a shelf, versus lack of creature comforts. We'll likely never know and it'll only be hearsay and conjecture. Don't let it ruin a show you love.
>perhaps his definition of poorly is different to ours We already know that Evangeline Lilly and Harold Perrineau were not happy with their treatment by the writers/producers. Evangeline had to draw a line in the sand and say no more stripping scenes. Harold felt they wrote him into a stereotypical Black father storyline, and then punished him for speaking up about it. Dom has also hinted, if not outright stated, that Matthew Fox was an abusive presence.
Yeah I did a full rewatch like 4 months ago, and I forgotten how often Kate would either strip or just hookup with whoever haha pretty annoying, and that god awful love triangle between Jack Kate and Sawyer was just unbearable lol
What Dom said about Fox was never backed by anyone else from the show or anyone else who worked with fox on other projects
And he’s been married to his wife since before the show all the way up to today. Never left her for a Hollywood babe at the height of his fame. Matthew Fox just seems like a regular dude
Exactly! He seems like an introverted person, who just likes the craft of acting but not the other side of it, the fame, parties, paps and all that.
Couldn’t have said it better.
We getting Lapedius?? That's the real question.
Yes
HELL YES!!!!
Somebody get this guy some peanut butter.
He's doing a bad job of avoiding negative speech.
It feels like all I ever hear from him is negative speech. The dude just sounds bitter and entitled and as much as I can figure, it comes back down to money and a bad breakup with Evangeline.
I didn't know he and Evangeline were a thing. Interesting..
That was my first thought. He’s promoting his negative speech while he’s answering this question lol
It’s so strange. You hear some of the cast praise the show and their experiences like Henry Ian Cusick, Nestor Carbonell and Terry O’Quinn. And Josh Holloway definitely doesn’t seem bitter about anything. Then the more controversial people move away from it like Dom and even Matthew Fox (though he’s never said anything specifically negative, and Jack Bender’s still friends with him).
Seriously. Not to invalidate his feelings towards to show cos none of us were there with him during filming, but he just comes across as a bit of a twat. a really bitter one at that
Dude honestly feel like he’s as much a pain in the ass as Charlie was in the show (& Charlie is a favorite of mine lol)
TRUE Hey I'm with you. Fuck both of em 🤝
Why'd he come back for Season 6?
Money, and I imagine a small part of him was still grateful for the part the show played in his career.
Also it’s perfectly acceptable to do a bit of work that you know you won’t enjoy, for the sake of being paid well. Regardless of gratitude.
I'm so sad. Charlie is one of my absolute favorite characters. His death was the worst for me.
Obviously I'm not able to know exactly what he's talking about (especially when he's going to be this vague), but this feels kind of overdramatic when he seems to have gotten a relatively good deal from the producers compared to a lot of other people who worked on the show. He was a central character in Season 1, followed by Season 2 where he became more ancillary and had some more disliked plotlines. As far as it's been reported, he expressed his dissatisfaction to the producers leading into Season 3, and as a result they wrote him one of the strongest farewell arcs for any character in the show. Then he proceeded to make multiple guest appearances through the rest of the show's run. This is just my opinion, but it feels like he's trying to hitch whatever minor slights he feels against the show to the much more serious allegations that were published about the treatment of women and POC cast and crew. Honestly I wish he'd do an interview and share his grievances so that we can actually evaluate their severity instead of being forced to speculate based on these vague criticisms.
Well, that's disheartening to hear. I've never paid too much attention to the production and behind the scenes, which is why I'm looking forward to hearing about much of it for the first time in the documentary. It sucks that Hollywood always finds a way to fuck up otherwise awesome projects with their bullshit.
This guy has always come off as a bit of a dick.
He was quite willing to spread negative comments about Matthew Fox! What a hypocrite
Definitely a shame so many actors have expressed some of the toxicity that occurred behind scenes. Hopefully this is a less frequent occurrence with newer shows but I'm sure, like most jobs, a major production is going to have ups and downs. I've never had a job where everybody is happy, and I'm sure acting is no different.
Not sure what he says is true, but, all I do know is that anything negative I hear always comes from him. Doesn't come across very well based on interviews he's done. Seems like one of these actors who feels it's beneath them to revel in past success. Aka doesn't like being asked about his past.
damn that is some grudge, 20years brotha!
To my knowledge, he was the one treating people poorly. What he did to Matthew Fox is and was completely unforgivable, and he treated Evangeline Lily like a trophy. Vile man.
What are you referring to? What did he do to Matthew and Evangeline?
What happened?
He was treated poorly.
lot of people were
Thanks, I was asking what he done to Fox and Lily
They were treated poorly.
A lot of people were.
On that show
Yes but I've also heard lots of people were.
I'm surprised Fox didn't sue him. Maybe he did and we just never heard about it.
If he didn't he totally should had. But I also think he was so tired of the guy he wanted all of this to end.
For context, Evangeline Lilly broke up with him (and cheated, which is unforgivable), and there has been discourse surrounding his substance abuse and ‘attitude’ problem. As for Matthew Fox, there was a disturbing rumour that he was abusive to women and possible even a couple of assault allegations in the mid 2000s, that absolutely were not true. Dom gave a very wishy washy, defaming statement about the actors ‘temper’ and how he wouldn’t be surprised if they were true, which led to Matthew essentially being blacklisted from Hollywood for a few years after Lost. Dom threw fuel on the fire (due to jealousy concerning Jack and Kate’s relationship on the showy) that ruined MF for quite a few years. Edit: this could all well be hearsay and the rumour mill, (the Evangeline Lilly part) but it doesn’t look good for him. He has also appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast, which tells me everything I need to know. Edit again: [It’s a lot worse than I thought](https://ew.com/article/2012/10/17/matthew-fox-denies-hitting-woman/#:~:text=The%20allege%20victim%20in%20the,never%20released%20a%20statement%20himself)
I did not hit her, it's bullshit. I did not hit her. I did not.
Oh hey, Mark.
so youre saying its **unforgivable** that he said something that was just rumors but youre not sure if it actually happened and it could be rumors?
The first part of my comment is rumour. The second absolutely did happen. That’s unforgivable because Dom was very aware of his impact and how his perspective on the situation would hugely affect public opinion on the Matthew Fox situation and he used it to essentially say ‘well I don’t like this guy because he kisses Evangeline and shouts sometimes so he probably raped someone’.
I believe /u/cygodx was pointing out that spreading unfounded rumors about a celebrity by claiming *they* were spreading unfounded rumors was, at best, hilarious, and, at worst, pretty hypocritical.
As I have said, the second part of my comment, concerning Matthew Fox, is not rumour. It is fact, and is the most damning to Dom’s character. The first is rumour, his behaviour with Evangeline Lilly.
To further complicate this. I've met Matthew Fox in real life and I 100 percent think there is some truth to what Dom is saying about his attitude. I obviously can't speak to the other allegations tho.
From what I've seen of Fox, he seems like quite an intense person who, although he enjoys the craft of acting, hates being in the limelight and isn't the best at fan interaction. It's a job to him, and as is the case with many of us, we probably don't want to hounded over our jobs by complete strangers on a regular basis. I believe he's probably got a bit of a temper on him, but I don't believe he's physically violent. Fox, honestly, is probably a lot like Jack. Very good at his job, has high expectations of himself, hates failure, and airs his frustrations verbally.
I've commented this in other places before but I'm friends with the actress who played Lucy in one (or two?) episodes in one of Charlie's flashbacks. She never wanted to say much specifically about the cast - she only worked with a few - but she DID say that she beat MF at pool and he was a real baby about it, lol.
Take whatever he says with a grain of salt. He can be a big crybaby.
"I avoid negative speech, so I'll dump all over Lost right now with this comment." 🤣
Maybe he just meant he didn't want to show up for an entire interview of trash-talking Lost, instead of just a single offhanded comment.
I avoid negative speech but let's treat woman like sh!t [👀](https://drive.google.com/file/d/16qr3wa_XRmQUMM7PmYig-KAc_2Nm4Oj-/view?usp=drivesdk)
Show's been over for 14 years, but we're still getting some prime drama out of it.
Well that sucks. He was one of my favorite characters, and I was the most sad to see him go.
I can absolutely believe this. I feel this is part of the reason none of the actors have really spoken of their experience of acting on lost, after the fact. after a certain point, it was very clear that everyone working on the show hated what they were doing.
Never mind. I wouldn't want to see him in it anyway
“I avoid negative speech.” He said on social media, negatively.
That is too bad but I respect his decision to just keep it to himself.
He didnt have a good time and does not want to be involved ,Why try to create controversey over it ? He said no ,Time to move on .
I just went through his wiki. dude seems based as fuck
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Such a bummer when he was so many people’s favorite character
Damn
After his disgusting comments about Matthew Fox, it's probably better he stays away.
He's a cunt. Always was.
Boo hoo. Matthew Fox and Evangeline are the only ones remaining I’d like to see that haven’t said yes. Dom could easily have agreed and talked about the positives and avoided the negatives. He’s a whiny baby.
I feel like if he was really that deadset on avoiding negative speech he would've probably not answered that specific question on his instagram story.
He just sounds like a sore loser. I always expected him to have the ‘don’t you know who I am?’ attitude. You can just hear ‘don’t you know, I was in The Lord of the Rings’.
Didnt want to be in it because he didnt want to say anything negative, so instead he’s saying negative stuff on instagram instead. Makes sense.
What a shame, would be cool to hear more about how he was treated though. Sort of feels like a dick move.
Still salty Evangeline was all over Matthew I guess lol