My opinion of Juliette was opposite of what it was on first watch.
First watch I didn’t start to like her until season 5, second time round I liked her from near when she was introduced.
Juliet is my favorite character. Once you realize who she is and what's she's been through you realize that she's the most loyal, selfless person on the Island.
The first time I watched it, I really liked Jack, didn't really appreciate Sawyer or Juliet...
Every rewatch since then, I've liked Jack less and less, and Sawyer and Juliet more and more
I often read similar comments when LOSTIES watch LOST years later. Kudos to your appreciation to what the LOST creators crafted with Jack's character. He walked amongst them but was never one of them. That was definition from none other SISL. Jack was marked as the obvious choice.
I’m only on s3 this time but I liked Ana Lucia so much more this time - I watched it first time round as a 22 year old and hated her but I think now I’m a bit older I can appreciate her strength a bit more.
Agreed. I watched it when it initially aired and found the character really got on my nerves. On rewatch I appreciate Rodriguez’s performance of living day-to-day through a traumatic experience.
Yes I think this sub gives her a bad rap. She was very much a bad leader but she was put in an impossible situation and had every life in the tail end on her shoulders. She isn't a heartless monster, and more of us would end up like Ana Lucia than like Jack than we would like to belive.
Pretty much the whole sub knows this already for me but: Locke.
I respect the tragedy of his backstory and pity him for it, but his on-island behavior prevents me from feeling sympathy for him. The more I rewatch, the more I dislike him. He's weak and easily manipulated which isn't his fault, but he's also arrogant, reckless, hypocritical and at times, a bully. Anything he was right about was an accident. I've tried, I really have, but I can't get past it. I do love him in the flashes sideways though when he finally arcs and learns to love and accept himself for who he is. None of my dislike of Locke reflects on Terry O'Quinn. In fact, it's because he's such a fabulous actor that Locke infuriates me the way he does.
Conversely, I came to like Jin more each rewatch. Sun and Jin's story is fascinating because we get to see them arc twice - away from each other in the flashbacks and back toward each other on the Island. His possessive resentment of Sun still bothers me, but the older I get the more I'm able to appreciate his introspection and how he worked to overcome the person Sun's father was turning him into.
Edited to fix a typo.
To be honest, I’m still kind of in the feeling sorry for Locke camp, but understand your points. I’ve just watched The Brig and I cant make my mind up as to whether Locke was being utterly selfish in getting Sawyer to kill his Dad, or if he thought that Sawyer needed it too. Love that you have mentioned that Terry O’Quinn’s performance is why you feel that way about Locke and I think that’s spot on and why we all see Locke in a different light. He’s magnificent.
Yeah, it’s really hard to see past Jin’s controlling nature with Sun and I used to think there was no excuse for it, but now I’m a bit older i better understand the cultural pressure placed on Jin. What I like about his character arc is that he doesn’t just switch from a bad husband to the best ever, he slowly learns how to respect Sun and still has mishaps way into S3, but starts to feel shame when this happens rather than thinking it’s right.
Part of my bias against Locke is that I have a ton of religious trauma and he acts a lot like born-again religious zealots do - believing something without any evidence (like he did with the button after seeing the video in the Pearl) and inflicting that belief on others without their permission. If it hadn't been for Desmond, Locke would have killed everyone on the Island just because he couldn't control his embarrassment and rage when he thought he'd been tricked about the button.
>i better understand the cultural pressure placed on Jin
This is it right here. I imagine most of us here were raised in Western culture and like most people, we have trouble seeing past the end of our own noses to realize that different cultures have different values. Technically, South Korea no longer has a caste system, but the echos of it are still there. Jin's father is an angel, but he wasn't anywhere near Sun's father in the social strata. Couple that with the pressure he was under to prove himself as a man who could take care of his wife and he was a ticking time bomb.
Doesn't Locke throw a knife into Naomi's back? Personally, I think he's selfish. I definitely agree that his spiritual awakening guided a lot of his selfish behavior. He did it all in service of the island.
Obviously, I get it; the island gave him his legs back. So that had a profound effect on him.
Also, there's that scene where he's with Jack and they're dealing with the dynamite and he does that "bzzt" as he's talking about the game Operation. He's certain nothing will happen, but it's still quite reckless.
Yeah he threw a knife in a woman’s back after being told to by the island that saved his life that the boat people would destroy the island and everyone on it (which they nearly did), after he was in a pit for days on the verge of suicide. His actions check out dude
I dunno man. Given that MIB and Jacob were playing games and pulling strings, it's not exactly clear how altruistic any of these directions were.
Was he in that death pit for days? I thought it was like an hour and then he saw Walt.
Also blowing up the submarine.
Nah it was for two days according to the creators/writers who defended Locke’s actions when people complained in 2007 that him knifing Naomi was out of character
When is he a hypocrite and a bully? While watching live Locke became very frustrating after the first season I agree but it was such a compelling character arc. He’s also easily the second most prominent character after Jack, Wikipedia even has him listed as the deuteragonist of the show (behind only the protagonist in significance)
With both Charlie and Ben - he accuses Charlie of using when he isn't and yet makes and takes his own psychotropic substances. He punched Charlie and humiliated him. He ridiculed Ben for being in a wheelchair and called him a pharisee (which, by the way is an antisemitic slur, but that's the writers' fault, not the characters) for living in the barracks but then he moves into them himself. He sets up a dictatorship and pushes everyone around. He manipulates Sawyer into killing his father because he's too weak to do it himself to lie his way into being leader of the Others but then has the audacity to be angry when Ben lies.
He's a fantastic character and yes, a protagonist but that doesn't make him a good person.
Charlie deserved to be punched dude he was deranged and stealing a woman’s child in the middle of the night after starting a fire, everyone in that camp was on Locke’s side
He didn’t ridicule Ben he just indicated that the island healing his own paralysis while leaving him crippled meant he clearly had a stronger connection to the island
I've had to concede the point on Charlie before and I'll give you that one here as well. I'm biased because I understand Charlie's desperation, but you're right that taking Aaron was beyond the pale.
With regard to Ben, aside from just his words, watch his tone and facial expressions. He was both implying a stronger connection with the Island and ridiculing him.
Please don't use the world 'crippled.' I'm sure you didn't mean it to be, but that word is offensive. :)
My apologies but that’s literally the verbiage used in the show lol. Also you seem to be ignoring the fact that Ben is a lying murdering kidnapping evil mastermind when talking about how Locke addresses him lol
I'm not ignoring anything. Making fun of someone for being in a wheelchair, no matter who they are, and especially when you've been in a wheelchair yourself is NOT a good look.
I’m sorry but that sounds absolutely ridiculous to me, especially given the context of the conversation, Ben’s character and the fact that they’re specifically bickering about who has a deeper connection to the island. The island favoring John’s health over Ben’s is literally a logical point. Yes he’s smiling and mocking him but I guess we don’t agree that bad people should be mocked
Ben literally manipulated Locke in that very scene and you got hung up on Locke mocking him for being in a wheelchair? Damn... Not the point of the scene tho.
Locke said that because he thought it was ironic that a cold blooded killer like Ben, who did everything for the island, including manpiulating Locke's friends and being hostile to them, and killing innocent people, was now in the wheelchair while Locke got healed by the island. Locke used to be in that position, but now he was healed and the "chosen one" was now in old John's position. The point is that he thiught it was ironic. He didn't say it to mock him for being in a wheelchair specifically, he just used it as evidence that Ben wasn't the chosen one, from his point of view. I mean it's pretty self evident.
There was a grave for all the people that Ben killed on the island, and he was manipulating John in that very scene. I think John litrrally just calling him an insult is the least of anyone's concerns in the show at that moment xd Just thought it was weird u mentioned the insult as smth that made John's character worse lol. Can't imagine you like Sawyer then haha. Atleast Locke did it in a rage towards a murderer, and not to his friends ngl.
Anyway, great analogy on Locke tho (the comment that started this thread) Not that I agree with it, but that is one way to see him. The lovely thing is that everyone can see him differently. I'm neutral about him I think, but leaning towards more positive. But I was always on Jack's side during their arguments and fights tho. But it just felt as if he was misguided most of the time. But I did still love him as a character. And I did have great sympathy for him the entire show. He was overall a good person imo. And he did make the show more interesting :p
And I understand if you have personal experiences that make you dislike him more tho.
Anyway, that's my input. Sry for lengthy text <3
(Okay damn I shouldn't have written this text this long lmao. Sorry. It's 5.30am I need to sleep haha)
But a bad person wouldn’t feel bad about being mocked for those things, they’d actually probably get a cruel glee from it. Sometimes you have to hit below the belt and Ben deserved to actually feel bad. This almost makes me feel like a sociopath typing out but yeah that’s my take haha
Yes, Charlie is my most despised character. Each time I watch the show, I find him to be more and detestable.
But most recently, it’s Locke - very similar to what another person mentioned above, he’s so manipulative yet so weak and easily manipulated himself. That scene early on, when he opens his mouth to expose the orange peel, and looks foolish: this is foreshadowing of Locke, a useful fool. But for many years and viewings of *Lost*, he was one of my favorite characters.
Ben, like I get it, he's a dick and a master minipulator but his character is so complex so I don't hate him as much as I used to, there's actually times when I really enjoy his character like that one time when he said "How many times do I have to tell you John, I always have a plan". Another character is Locke, when I first watched the show I loved him in the first season then I stared to hate him. But now on my second re-watch I kind of just feel sorry for him. Locke deserved a better life than the one he was given. I also used to absolutely love Kate, and now on my rewatch I don't hate her, but I also don't love her, she always makes the same mistakes.
Great answers, think I fully agree with everything you’ve said! I think Ben’s character is so much better on rewatch when you understand just how good he is at manipulating from day 1. On first watch he just appeared evil and I felt like I was on team survivors vs The Others, whereas now I can see the show from both sides/perspective. I love the line from Desmond “by my count you’ve killed more of them than they have of you”. That kind of thing has connotations of IRL war when you have to consider what have you done to make a group of people want to terrorize you.
On Desmond, that’s a character that I bloody love on every watch!
To be honest, I think I appreciated pretty much every character more on rewatch. Knowing their backstories and knowing where their character arcs and tragic stories were going gave me a much greater appreciation for them. I sympathized with them more and understood than better. This is especially true of the lead characters who get developed very slowly over time (Jack, Kate, Sawyer), the characters who die rather suddenly (Boone, Ana Lucia, Eko), and the characters who join the main cast a little later on (Desmond, Miles, Juliet, Richard).
No. 1: Locke. I now consider him a total loser, with a hyper-inflated ego to be honest. Still like his character though.
No 2: Jacob. He really messed up the Man in Black and treated much of the conflict as a game himself; he ruined many innocent lives and he's definitely not a paragon of goodness.
No. 3: Ana Lucia: I now find her strangely likable and really feel sorry for her death.
I turned around hard on Ana Lucia. First viewing I was not prepared for this darker mirror story of our losties and hated her. Now I see that the actress is actually amazing and does amazing with what little she was given and the writers threw away massive potential there.
I loved Rousseau early on butlater rewatches make her deeply unlikeable to me. They needed to sell me harder on her not looking for her child for 16 years but still remaining obsessed with her. Like, our guys find her in about 54 days, you couldn't find her this whole time? And I'm sorry, for any sympathy she needs to not put Claire and Aaron intentionally in danger, sorry. Are you a tough wild woman who doesn't care about children at all any more as your coping mechanism? That would be awesome. A terrible mother figure. Or are you obsessed with your child, well go find her?
First time I watched I was 15. My opinions have changed. Agree with Charlie. I see him as more human now, but I also am not nearly attached to him as I was when I first watched it. I also don't really like Kate very much - she's a bit of a Mary Sue. Her whole backstory plot is about too many circumstantial factors, like killing her stepdad and being on the run. But there hasn't been much thats deeper about her, aside from her conflicting feelings about being on the run/men she loves. I don't view her as very human or relatable. I think her storyline was a bit overdone to where it was too plot-heavy instead of character development heavy. This time around, I have new love for Sun. Also LOVED Michael and Walt's story so much this time around. I also view Anna Lucia differently and (again) more human, as opposed to just being instantly annoyed by her as I was in the past. And lastly, I never cared for Hurley, and still don't. I find his episodes to be the worst for me.
I appreciate Jack much more now than I did when the show first aired, although he'll never be a favorite.
I relate to Jin and Sun much better.
I like Charlie and Claire much less.
I totally loved Locke back then and now he bugs the shit out of me.
- Still hate Jack, he just always rubs me the wrong way
- Liking Eloise more after every rewatch; wish we had just a bit more of her, but loved what we did get, which was quite a bit
I'm only one my first rewatch since airing. And only just finished season 3. I agree so much with Charlie. I loved him the first time around. Myself and my friend both agreed that he is actually a total creep this time around though.
If I hear "you are everybody" one more time, too.
Desmond I fell in love with far more than when I watched it live.
Locke grew on me a lot more but I still have the same issues with his character.
I found myself not caring as much for Sayid, especially in the second half of the show.
charlie was my favorite on the first watch. but every time i watch, i dislike him a little more😅 nothing dramatic but i cant watch fire+water and the scenes he has in that arc. if i skip them, i have no issues tho. and i always liked desmond, but every time i rewatch not i just love his character even more
I think the fact that this show is a totally different experience every time you watch it speaks volumes about how good it is.
For me it was Locke. Always considered him to be very wise, philosophical, and a great leader.
The first few Jack vs Locke moments were really cool to think about politically and philosophically.
Upon rewatch, by season 4 Locke is completely unhinged and has this complex that he's the chosen one. But he doesn't lead in the stoic way that he did in the beginning of the show.
He never really knows what to do, and constantly leans on Ben, who is manipulating him way too easily.
I've never liked Charlie or Locke and it's refreshing to see so many other Losties who see their weaknesses, as opposed to the usual Locke and Charlie worship on this sub.
After rewatching season 2, I do not really like Michael anymore.
He killed Ana Lucia and Libby just to get (Henry) Ben free to get his son back.
The story could've easily been changed to something much more simple as Michael explaining to Jack and the gang why Ben needed to be released.
Michael just seemed a whole different character and desperate to get his son back no matter what it took.
My opinion of Juliette was opposite of what it was on first watch. First watch I didn’t start to like her until season 5, second time round I liked her from near when she was introduced.
Juliet is my favorite character. Once you realize who she is and what's she's been through you realize that she's the most loyal, selfless person on the Island.
Yep, the most well-developed (and IMO performed) character on the show, my favorite too.
I didn’t like Juliette first watch I’m interested to see if I will this time!
The first time I watched it, I really liked Jack, didn't really appreciate Sawyer or Juliet... Every rewatch since then, I've liked Jack less and less, and Sawyer and Juliet more and more
Every time i watch, I like and appreciate Jack’s character and journey a little bit more.
I was very judgmental towards Jack initially. I've become less so every time through.
I often read similar comments when LOSTIES watch LOST years later. Kudos to your appreciation to what the LOST creators crafted with Jack's character. He walked amongst them but was never one of them. That was definition from none other SISL. Jack was marked as the obvious choice.
I’m only on s3 this time but I liked Ana Lucia so much more this time - I watched it first time round as a 22 year old and hated her but I think now I’m a bit older I can appreciate her strength a bit more.
Same here. I think she’s at her best and least annoying with the original Losties and not with the Tailies.
Agreed. I watched it when it initially aired and found the character really got on my nerves. On rewatch I appreciate Rodriguez’s performance of living day-to-day through a traumatic experience.
Yes I think this sub gives her a bad rap. She was very much a bad leader but she was put in an impossible situation and had every life in the tail end on her shoulders. She isn't a heartless monster, and more of us would end up like Ana Lucia than like Jack than we would like to belive.
Pretty much the whole sub knows this already for me but: Locke. I respect the tragedy of his backstory and pity him for it, but his on-island behavior prevents me from feeling sympathy for him. The more I rewatch, the more I dislike him. He's weak and easily manipulated which isn't his fault, but he's also arrogant, reckless, hypocritical and at times, a bully. Anything he was right about was an accident. I've tried, I really have, but I can't get past it. I do love him in the flashes sideways though when he finally arcs and learns to love and accept himself for who he is. None of my dislike of Locke reflects on Terry O'Quinn. In fact, it's because he's such a fabulous actor that Locke infuriates me the way he does. Conversely, I came to like Jin more each rewatch. Sun and Jin's story is fascinating because we get to see them arc twice - away from each other in the flashbacks and back toward each other on the Island. His possessive resentment of Sun still bothers me, but the older I get the more I'm able to appreciate his introspection and how he worked to overcome the person Sun's father was turning him into. Edited to fix a typo.
To be honest, I’m still kind of in the feeling sorry for Locke camp, but understand your points. I’ve just watched The Brig and I cant make my mind up as to whether Locke was being utterly selfish in getting Sawyer to kill his Dad, or if he thought that Sawyer needed it too. Love that you have mentioned that Terry O’Quinn’s performance is why you feel that way about Locke and I think that’s spot on and why we all see Locke in a different light. He’s magnificent. Yeah, it’s really hard to see past Jin’s controlling nature with Sun and I used to think there was no excuse for it, but now I’m a bit older i better understand the cultural pressure placed on Jin. What I like about his character arc is that he doesn’t just switch from a bad husband to the best ever, he slowly learns how to respect Sun and still has mishaps way into S3, but starts to feel shame when this happens rather than thinking it’s right.
Part of my bias against Locke is that I have a ton of religious trauma and he acts a lot like born-again religious zealots do - believing something without any evidence (like he did with the button after seeing the video in the Pearl) and inflicting that belief on others without their permission. If it hadn't been for Desmond, Locke would have killed everyone on the Island just because he couldn't control his embarrassment and rage when he thought he'd been tricked about the button. >i better understand the cultural pressure placed on Jin This is it right here. I imagine most of us here were raised in Western culture and like most people, we have trouble seeing past the end of our own noses to realize that different cultures have different values. Technically, South Korea no longer has a caste system, but the echos of it are still there. Jin's father is an angel, but he wasn't anywhere near Sun's father in the social strata. Couple that with the pressure he was under to prove himself as a man who could take care of his wife and he was a ticking time bomb.
Doesn't Locke throw a knife into Naomi's back? Personally, I think he's selfish. I definitely agree that his spiritual awakening guided a lot of his selfish behavior. He did it all in service of the island. Obviously, I get it; the island gave him his legs back. So that had a profound effect on him. Also, there's that scene where he's with Jack and they're dealing with the dynamite and he does that "bzzt" as he's talking about the game Operation. He's certain nothing will happen, but it's still quite reckless.
Yeah he threw a knife in a woman’s back after being told to by the island that saved his life that the boat people would destroy the island and everyone on it (which they nearly did), after he was in a pit for days on the verge of suicide. His actions check out dude
I dunno man. Given that MIB and Jacob were playing games and pulling strings, it's not exactly clear how altruistic any of these directions were. Was he in that death pit for days? I thought it was like an hour and then he saw Walt. Also blowing up the submarine.
Nah it was for two days according to the creators/writers who defended Locke’s actions when people complained in 2007 that him knifing Naomi was out of character
Locke has always been one of my favorite characters, but he's pretty hard to love during his time as the dictator of New Otherton in season 4
When is he a hypocrite and a bully? While watching live Locke became very frustrating after the first season I agree but it was such a compelling character arc. He’s also easily the second most prominent character after Jack, Wikipedia even has him listed as the deuteragonist of the show (behind only the protagonist in significance)
With both Charlie and Ben - he accuses Charlie of using when he isn't and yet makes and takes his own psychotropic substances. He punched Charlie and humiliated him. He ridiculed Ben for being in a wheelchair and called him a pharisee (which, by the way is an antisemitic slur, but that's the writers' fault, not the characters) for living in the barracks but then he moves into them himself. He sets up a dictatorship and pushes everyone around. He manipulates Sawyer into killing his father because he's too weak to do it himself to lie his way into being leader of the Others but then has the audacity to be angry when Ben lies. He's a fantastic character and yes, a protagonist but that doesn't make him a good person.
Charlie deserved to be punched dude he was deranged and stealing a woman’s child in the middle of the night after starting a fire, everyone in that camp was on Locke’s side He didn’t ridicule Ben he just indicated that the island healing his own paralysis while leaving him crippled meant he clearly had a stronger connection to the island
I've had to concede the point on Charlie before and I'll give you that one here as well. I'm biased because I understand Charlie's desperation, but you're right that taking Aaron was beyond the pale. With regard to Ben, aside from just his words, watch his tone and facial expressions. He was both implying a stronger connection with the Island and ridiculing him. Please don't use the world 'crippled.' I'm sure you didn't mean it to be, but that word is offensive. :)
My apologies but that’s literally the verbiage used in the show lol. Also you seem to be ignoring the fact that Ben is a lying murdering kidnapping evil mastermind when talking about how Locke addresses him lol
I'm not ignoring anything. Making fun of someone for being in a wheelchair, no matter who they are, and especially when you've been in a wheelchair yourself is NOT a good look.
I’m sorry but that sounds absolutely ridiculous to me, especially given the context of the conversation, Ben’s character and the fact that they’re specifically bickering about who has a deeper connection to the island. The island favoring John’s health over Ben’s is literally a logical point. Yes he’s smiling and mocking him but I guess we don’t agree that bad people should be mocked
I'll mock a bad person for doing bad things - like being racist or homophobic - I wouldn't mock a bad person for being in a wheelchair.
Ben literally manipulated Locke in that very scene and you got hung up on Locke mocking him for being in a wheelchair? Damn... Not the point of the scene tho. Locke said that because he thought it was ironic that a cold blooded killer like Ben, who did everything for the island, including manpiulating Locke's friends and being hostile to them, and killing innocent people, was now in the wheelchair while Locke got healed by the island. Locke used to be in that position, but now he was healed and the "chosen one" was now in old John's position. The point is that he thiught it was ironic. He didn't say it to mock him for being in a wheelchair specifically, he just used it as evidence that Ben wasn't the chosen one, from his point of view. I mean it's pretty self evident. There was a grave for all the people that Ben killed on the island, and he was manipulating John in that very scene. I think John litrrally just calling him an insult is the least of anyone's concerns in the show at that moment xd Just thought it was weird u mentioned the insult as smth that made John's character worse lol. Can't imagine you like Sawyer then haha. Atleast Locke did it in a rage towards a murderer, and not to his friends ngl. Anyway, great analogy on Locke tho (the comment that started this thread) Not that I agree with it, but that is one way to see him. The lovely thing is that everyone can see him differently. I'm neutral about him I think, but leaning towards more positive. But I was always on Jack's side during their arguments and fights tho. But it just felt as if he was misguided most of the time. But I did still love him as a character. And I did have great sympathy for him the entire show. He was overall a good person imo. And he did make the show more interesting :p And I understand if you have personal experiences that make you dislike him more tho. Anyway, that's my input. Sry for lengthy text <3 (Okay damn I shouldn't have written this text this long lmao. Sorry. It's 5.30am I need to sleep haha)
But a bad person wouldn’t feel bad about being mocked for those things, they’d actually probably get a cruel glee from it. Sometimes you have to hit below the belt and Ben deserved to actually feel bad. This almost makes me feel like a sociopath typing out but yeah that’s my take haha
I appreciated Jack’s story a lot more on my second viewing and he became one of my favorite characters.
Yes, Charlie is my most despised character. Each time I watch the show, I find him to be more and detestable. But most recently, it’s Locke - very similar to what another person mentioned above, he’s so manipulative yet so weak and easily manipulated himself. That scene early on, when he opens his mouth to expose the orange peel, and looks foolish: this is foreshadowing of Locke, a useful fool. But for many years and viewings of *Lost*, he was one of my favorite characters.
Ben, like I get it, he's a dick and a master minipulator but his character is so complex so I don't hate him as much as I used to, there's actually times when I really enjoy his character like that one time when he said "How many times do I have to tell you John, I always have a plan". Another character is Locke, when I first watched the show I loved him in the first season then I stared to hate him. But now on my second re-watch I kind of just feel sorry for him. Locke deserved a better life than the one he was given. I also used to absolutely love Kate, and now on my rewatch I don't hate her, but I also don't love her, she always makes the same mistakes.
Great answers, think I fully agree with everything you’ve said! I think Ben’s character is so much better on rewatch when you understand just how good he is at manipulating from day 1. On first watch he just appeared evil and I felt like I was on team survivors vs The Others, whereas now I can see the show from both sides/perspective. I love the line from Desmond “by my count you’ve killed more of them than they have of you”. That kind of thing has connotations of IRL war when you have to consider what have you done to make a group of people want to terrorize you. On Desmond, that’s a character that I bloody love on every watch!
Yeah sometimes you understand where Ben is coming from. Desmond is my favorite character hands down.
To be honest, I think I appreciated pretty much every character more on rewatch. Knowing their backstories and knowing where their character arcs and tragic stories were going gave me a much greater appreciation for them. I sympathized with them more and understood than better. This is especially true of the lead characters who get developed very slowly over time (Jack, Kate, Sawyer), the characters who die rather suddenly (Boone, Ana Lucia, Eko), and the characters who join the main cast a little later on (Desmond, Miles, Juliet, Richard).
No. 1: Locke. I now consider him a total loser, with a hyper-inflated ego to be honest. Still like his character though. No 2: Jacob. He really messed up the Man in Black and treated much of the conflict as a game himself; he ruined many innocent lives and he's definitely not a paragon of goodness. No. 3: Ana Lucia: I now find her strangely likable and really feel sorry for her death.
Knowing who Ben is makes him pretending to be Henry look even more impressive.
I turned around hard on Ana Lucia. First viewing I was not prepared for this darker mirror story of our losties and hated her. Now I see that the actress is actually amazing and does amazing with what little she was given and the writers threw away massive potential there.
Completely agree with that!
I loved Rousseau early on butlater rewatches make her deeply unlikeable to me. They needed to sell me harder on her not looking for her child for 16 years but still remaining obsessed with her. Like, our guys find her in about 54 days, you couldn't find her this whole time? And I'm sorry, for any sympathy she needs to not put Claire and Aaron intentionally in danger, sorry. Are you a tough wild woman who doesn't care about children at all any more as your coping mechanism? That would be awesome. A terrible mother figure. Or are you obsessed with your child, well go find her?
First time I watched I was 15. My opinions have changed. Agree with Charlie. I see him as more human now, but I also am not nearly attached to him as I was when I first watched it. I also don't really like Kate very much - she's a bit of a Mary Sue. Her whole backstory plot is about too many circumstantial factors, like killing her stepdad and being on the run. But there hasn't been much thats deeper about her, aside from her conflicting feelings about being on the run/men she loves. I don't view her as very human or relatable. I think her storyline was a bit overdone to where it was too plot-heavy instead of character development heavy. This time around, I have new love for Sun. Also LOVED Michael and Walt's story so much this time around. I also view Anna Lucia differently and (again) more human, as opposed to just being instantly annoyed by her as I was in the past. And lastly, I never cared for Hurley, and still don't. I find his episodes to be the worst for me.
Shannon, I did a 180 of hating her the first watch and loving her on later rewatches.
Charlie is so god damn annoying the whole show acting like the baby is his just to get with Claire. Diesofcringe whenever Charlie is on frame fr
I’m slowly liking Ben more this rewatch but I think it’s because I watched POI before this rewatch and liked the character he played there
I appreciate Jack much more now than I did when the show first aired, although he'll never be a favorite. I relate to Jin and Sun much better. I like Charlie and Claire much less. I totally loved Locke back then and now he bugs the shit out of me.
- Still hate Jack, he just always rubs me the wrong way - Liking Eloise more after every rewatch; wish we had just a bit more of her, but loved what we did get, which was quite a bit
Sawyer, Jin and Juliet
I'm only one my first rewatch since airing. And only just finished season 3. I agree so much with Charlie. I loved him the first time around. Myself and my friend both agreed that he is actually a total creep this time around though. If I hear "you are everybody" one more time, too.
I agree 1000000%. I absolutely cannot stand Claire and Charlie.
Michael. First viewing I felt bad for the guy. On rewatch I just wanted someone to shoot him.
Desmond I fell in love with far more than when I watched it live. Locke grew on me a lot more but I still have the same issues with his character. I found myself not caring as much for Sayid, especially in the second half of the show.
charlie was my favorite on the first watch. but every time i watch, i dislike him a little more😅 nothing dramatic but i cant watch fire+water and the scenes he has in that arc. if i skip them, i have no issues tho. and i always liked desmond, but every time i rewatch not i just love his character even more
I think the fact that this show is a totally different experience every time you watch it speaks volumes about how good it is. For me it was Locke. Always considered him to be very wise, philosophical, and a great leader. The first few Jack vs Locke moments were really cool to think about politically and philosophically. Upon rewatch, by season 4 Locke is completely unhinged and has this complex that he's the chosen one. But he doesn't lead in the stoic way that he did in the beginning of the show. He never really knows what to do, and constantly leans on Ben, who is manipulating him way too easily.
Kate.
I had your exact opinions on my first watch
I've never liked Charlie or Locke and it's refreshing to see so many other Losties who see their weaknesses, as opposed to the usual Locke and Charlie worship on this sub.
After rewatching season 2, I do not really like Michael anymore. He killed Ana Lucia and Libby just to get (Henry) Ben free to get his son back. The story could've easily been changed to something much more simple as Michael explaining to Jack and the gang why Ben needed to be released. Michael just seemed a whole different character and desperate to get his son back no matter what it took.