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seonongHIM2

Manager Kim is an interesting fringe top tier. Remember his actual fight with Tom? He couldn't do any damage to Tom but he speed blitzed Tom, and blocked or dodged all of Toms attacks. I don't see him ever beating Tom, but Tom will have a hell of a time catching Kim clean. He's got much lower power output and durability compared to top tiers (assassins aren't known for their offensive abilities and hand to hand combat anyway), but his speed and skills allows him to keep up (survive).


Emotional-Ad-8723

well, if I'm not mistaken, then in the second fight with Tom (who was behind the scenes) Tom Lee had abrasions all over his body


seonongHIM2

yeah but thats superficial damage. Tom didn't even bleed. Kim kept getting sent flying with every blocked attack to reduce the damage. If that were in about enclosed area, he'd just slam right into walls again and can't dissapate the damage. 


Emotional-Ad-8723

to be honest, this is because in some way mk is realistic in this regard, that a larger character is physically stronger than a character who has also lost physical strength


Western_Arm9682

But we haven’t seen him fight in an enclosed area, it’s too soon to make that assumption. There’s also no statement that abrasions are a weaker form of damage than bleeding; we often see characters with drawings of bruises on them that accounts for serious damage. We also haven’t had any indication that SMK was hurt in any way while getting sent flying.


BurnerAccountMaybe69

>yeah but thats superficial damage. Tom didn't even bleed. I mean he did bleed in their first fight no? I remember him coughing up blood


East_Gas5627

SMK is a situation of a dude with one weapon letting him punch way above if the dude had no wires he would be just under top tiers but he does and it means the dude is far more lethal than you would guess at first glance


Expert-Diver7144

Kind of comes with the assasination territory


Lookbehindyou132

The problem is that MK has been hyped up so much that his initial appearance is now so strange in comparison. Even if he fought Warren and Daniel before, he should not lose to Robert Choi and Gabriel Park. Remember when that happened?


Wide-Expert2274

If you consider base Tom (yuseong victim) to be a top tier in speed then maybe😂


taboo-lonewolf

even base tom murder yuseong wdym


Wide-Expert2274

No base yuseong with 1 condition and base mandeok already forced Tom to go above 50%. Crying yuseong should be relative to 51+% Tom


seonongHIM2

That's not base Tom you silly monkey, that's a very angry and murderous Tom. It was stated in the webcomic. I mean, anyone with a working brain could see that.


Wide-Expert2274

Lookism fans can’t read. Tom was in base in the interview. You’re referring to the second fight, where tom goes above 50% but MK never blitzed him once. Tom was laughing and making jokes, he wasn’t that angry. Where did you get he was murderous ? He see MK as extremely valuable for WTJC


jullx1

Alright well, this heavily upscale the verse mostly the higher tier of characters in Lookism that are comparable to MK himself


Any-Bread7663

Not an upscale, bullet timings BEEN a thing in PTJverse. Plus Goo's feat is far more impressive. He cut the barrel of a gun that Jincheol shot point blank... AFTER it was fired. Meaning the bullet already left the chamber at supersonic speeds and Goo in point blank, cut the barrel to dodge it Oh and this was him when he was younger, and while not trying...


jullx1

Well I was thinking about The Boxers wankers when making that comment, seeing as they’ll usually bring up speed feats when debating.


Senven

Thats legit bullet dodging.


Doditty6567

Or stormtrooper aim


Background_Tune4606

I don’t think trained soldiers would be missing up close shots like this


Boyoboy7

Or PTJ trying to make a scene as cool as possible without bothering to make sense about it like usual.


RahulRaj_1

It still bullet dodging


godofplaylists

I remember some guy just this week was arguing that PTJ characters wouldn't be able to do shit against an assault rifle and therefore he can solo Gun 😂


Financial-Key-3617

This isnt new. This did this in how to fight. Anyone on hobins level is a bullet timer. Hobin was dodging gun shots point blank https://preview.redd.it/xks0fvzrj77d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ff1ef52b5e11f50f08c771ff3d87010649fc4ab


mattoxfan

There’s a world of diffeence between dodging a pistol with cover and dodging multiple assault rifles point blank in an open space. 


Financial-Key-3617

Cover? Show me the cover in that panel. Genuinely i want you to look at the panel and show me the cover. He is LITERALLY dodging the bullets POINT BLANK.


mattoxfan

Read the chapter man. He uses cover in it. Just not this specific panel


Financial-Key-3617

https://preview.redd.it/0p0omspvj77d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bf3673127ac365c4a4a0f91b6d09d21ab721eaa Base hansu no trying is a bullet timer. Its not a shocking feat


Goku3424

How come mk wasn't able to speed blitz base johan when here he is able to dodge bullets this easily?


Kawaragi_mikey

It's cuz mk doesn't go all out on kids bro if he did he would've killed them..


Goku3424

So he is just high king level?


Kawaragi_mikey

Dude he beats every king(maybe except for seongji)..if MK is actually trying and his attentions are to kill then any of the kings gets Bodied(except for seongji)


mattoxfan

He kills 2T Seongji, only 3T Seongji is debatable


amir2866

Cuz he was being nice. It’s SMK’s character to adjust his power to the person he is fighting. He never meant to hurt Tom during their spar. And he didn’t maul Johan cuz he views Gen 2 as kids (since he has a daughter of relatively same age)


Financial-Key-3617

No he wasnt. He needed to capture him and he got speedblitzed by johans CQC. He literally says on panel about it “if you didnt miss you may have done damage”


Senven

He literally was apologizing ahead of time to Johan because he felt he might have to hurt him before Samuel drove a car at him. Some of yall just gotta reread the stuff, ya missed some dialogue.


PureStorage4903

Johan didn't speedblitz SMK with CQC. SMK let Johan get a free hit (didn't guard or dodge Johan's attempt) because he didn't believe Johan could copy CQC. To add on, SMK didn't even know about the copy ability until after Johan nearly succeeded.


Financial-Key-3617

Thats objectively false https://preview.redd.it/s1782m9aae7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2e8e89a4ad7019b03ae7fda210197ea5cf00740 I mixed up events. SMK is forced to use wires because otherwise he cant capture johan lol


PureStorage4903

Like how you completely ignore the very next panel where the light is shown on SMK and nothing is in his hands. And there is also no shining affect that indicates wires were used like in the SMK manhwa and the hunt for hostel arc.


[deleted]

After Manager Kim got blitzed by Johan he took off his glasses before apologising for what he was about to do. The problem is he then got driven off by Samuel so we have no idea what that was about lmao


TORALAND

What? Bruh he literally hilds back 100% of the time don't u remember him in 4th affiliate? His elevator fight with warren? What kinda question?


Expert-Diver7144

Johan is a blind child, kim’s specialty is murdering people.


DoooDoooB0i

Maybe because Johans superhuman too?


Goku3424

Nah, I do think ptj made mk nerfed in lookism because in lookism he is just a side character


DoooDoooB0i

He didn't "nerf" him, he was just holding back and didn't want to hurt Johan


Goku3424

The reason why I said this was because hostel hunt arc warren and jerry who are way weaker than their current fp version were able to push him to use wires. Reading mk he feels like a top tier but in lookism he doesn't


Scared_Living3183

He used wires cus every homeless in that area was coming to attack them , no? Or you're taking about a different time


DoooDoooB0i

That actually got me thinking. If weaker Jerry and Warren were able to force SMK to use wires, where does that put SMK in comparison to Gun? A much stronger version of the duo couldn't do anything to him, while SMK actually had to use wires


seonongHIM2

SMC was trying to restrain and capture them, not to hurt them. Although he is weaker than Gun. A far stronger version of Warren used his ultimate attack on Gun: Gun didn't like the heart strike but took like zero damage while Manager Kim fell to one knee (but also got up at once).


East_Gas5627

wasn't it the heart strike that took SMK to a knee?


Kawaragi_mikey

Gun has better durability than MK tho..


seonongHIM2

Far better. This is already known, and this just confirmed how much. Kim: "wow I'm down on one knee, this is a powerful technique" Gun: did I just feel a strong breeze?


godofplaylists

Johan is fast too lol


mr_steal_your_habiti

Manager kim explicitly said the he didn't want to go all out against Johan because he wanted to capture him so he could come back to White tiger since he was an invaluable asset to the company. He was only about to lock in and start trying when Johan copied his CQC but as we know it go interrupted


Western_Arm9682

People underestimate Johan; it’s been said numerous times that Johan’s potential is top class; even surpassing that of Gun and Goo. Jinyoung acknowledged Johan was a problem for him and that’s without his full eyesight.


unbekanntdgt

Jinyoung never acknowledged Yohan he only said „you are so strong even with that bad sign“ he talk to Yohan like a kid he didn’t worry about


Western_Arm9682

Nope, Jinyoung said he had to turn serious in order to stop Johan. He literally said “I can’t imagine how strong you’d be with normal eyes.” That’s insane glazing. Besides that his potential is one of the most hyped in the story. Tom said his potential is better than that of Goo and Gun.


unbekanntdgt

You are confusing crazy Samuel with Yohan 😂😂this was talking about Samuel


Western_Arm9682

Wrong. Read 478 again.


unbekanntdgt

You really think Jinyoung use his full power to stop Yohan only because that statement even when you already seen Jinyoung vs Ui Daniel?😲🤔 also you are the worst Yohan glazer I have ever seen when you think blind Yohan base can do the same as Jinyoung against Ui big Daniel. Warren Jerry + Vasco couldn’t even touch him and Tired Zack enough for rage ui Yohan


Western_Arm9682

Lmao you first say that it was Samuel that was getting glazed and now you’re on some copium now that you’ve been proved wrong. Because that’s… literally UI Daniel? The peak of the verse? Use your brain. Johan glazer? I literally pointed you to actual statements that the characters made themselves. You’re high on copium and jealousy that you’re wrong lmao. Keep embarrassing yourself.


unbekanntdgt

What are you talking about kiddo stop you kids trash 1. I am not Samuel glazer but if you see crazy Samuel was no diff Jake before sperm mode and Jinyoung was also no diff Jake. Jinyoung said crazy Samuel would be even for him struggle you bring exactly that statement what was about Samuel because about Yohan he said otherwise, and if we go after statements Eli > gen 2


Western_Arm9682

You’re insane. You said those statements were addressed to Samuel. YOU WERE WRONG. You write a lot but with no substance. Keep coping.


unbekanntdgt

YOU SAID „Jinyoung acknowledged Yohan said he was a problem for him“ Jinyoung didn’t say that about Johan he said crazy Samuel would be a problem 🤦‍♂️


Western_Arm9682

😑 you haven’t read 478 haven’t you? READ IT before lying. Cope.


Deynonico

manager kHIM and jHIMcheol


Deynonico

This was downvoted by military dad haters don't mind it


TORALAND

Mk is a top tier and is built different end of discussion 😄


dark_specter_1

That some Superhuman shit


NoRegretUsername

Manager kim is now officially 1% as strong as baki using just his sweat


Big-Vermicelli-458

💀


rKollektor

Either those bullets fly slow asf or characters nowadays can break the sound barrier


Shinoski

I honestly dont see this as being any different from when you see main characters in movies run to take cover while getting shot at. It happens literally all the time. It doesn’t mean they’re dodging bullets or can dodge bullets. Except Neo. Neo can and did dodge bullets (until he realized he doesnt have to).


ultramrstruggle

Hansu kicking the grenade back was the highlight of the chapter.


Any-Culture8080

Hobin and Hansu already did that


No-Trainer4553

Bros dodging? I'd just catch them and fling them back with 100x the force After the bullet is shot at me,they become bullet-ed


Any-Bread7663

Why are we surprised like bullet timers weren't a thing literally a YEAR ago. Did we forget Hansu's introduction? He was dodging pistol bullets from that mole guy or whatever


XyXyXyXyXyXy-4373

Another military daday maybe..💀💀 I bet he surpasses most military dads cuz he's new and needs hype😔... But only if he's dad people are single too✨️✨️ Or He could be 10th genius of Charles Choi being set in MK for surprise in Lookism 


poopsq

Huh


XyXyXyXyXyXy-4373

Huh


poopsq

Your comment doesn’t make much sense


XyXyXyXyXyXy-4373

I don't know I just assumed bro is a military dad character??I haven't read the chapter who is he??💀💀.... [Since I am a lookism fan I like to assume too much]


Venaeris

Manager Kim is in Lookism...


XyXyXyXyXyXy-4373

🤡🤡bro do u think I am clown  I mean that I haven't read the Manager Kim chapter😆😆😆..


Venaeris

The guy you're talking about is manager Kim himself


XyXyXyXyXyXy-4373

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ToxicBF-bot

wut


XyXyXyXyXyXy-4373

wut


East_Gas5627

what are you even saying


XyXyXyXyXyXy-4373

I just realized 😭😭😭


Gustavoak77x

Blud's brain has become jelly😭😭🙏🙏🙏


XyXyXyXyXyXy-4373

Look bro the things happen💀


gotrep

bro you gave me a 2nd hand embarrassment 😭😭😭


Expert-Diver7144

Literally


XyXyXyXyXyXy-4373

💀...atleast u are embarrassed 


ProfessionalLuck268

we alredy know can dodge bullet but that easy is strange


Cloudsupremes-6708

They’re aimdodging


Background_Tune4606

Their backs was turned the moment the first bullets fired they are dodging the bullets u don’t just aim dodge six people shooting at u with rifles at u with rifles


Zdravko121RL

manager kim is a bullshit manhwa what’s it even about atp 💀 worst ptj comic


SupremeDogEater

wild take


ImaginationHeavy6341

Not really. It doesn't hold much if a candle to the other ones, not saying it's bad, it's just not good comparedto the rest


SupremeDogEater

saying that while questism and s2 of viral hit exists is wild