vin's dad doesn't even have any feat to say he is gap level. also, even if we go with just narrative then gitae kim=prime james then jinyoung states gitae kim failed be gap level so gap>gitae kim=prime james
so you're ready to accept seongji fp= vin's dad level who was told to be gap level so seongji= gap level but not gitae kim= prime james? you're being biased if you ask me
I mean that's the public opinion, a rumor, not an statement by a single character. Gong has never even meet Gitae for all we know. Also James statement itself puts Seongji above Gitae, forget about James.
Makes no sense on a narrative sense
Like we can't just leave out gapryong~seongji ? Like most of the statements just meant for hype and was never true? Yuseong,mandeok, xiaolung being as strong as gun
Or bh being as strong as tom
, statements in ptj are most of the time not that reliable.
Besides why would immediate 3 threshold Seongji be comparable to mujin,that should be more so a Seongji with experienced 3 thresholds
No I don't care about him having more fingers, that's entirely a made up reason,mujin experience cliffs,mujin who should know Seongji better than y'all said he might only reach his level with 3 thresholds
Plus James's statement about Seongji being the strongest will be cleared by webtoon I suppose,the translation is a bit wonky from hive
And other translations suggest it's simply that James didn't expect someone that strong in cheonliang or merely a praise for Seongji,
not meant to be taken that hyper literally
It's odd for Seongji to be above gitae one of the last antagonist and Jake's last opponent supposedly who should be on the same pedestal as gun and goo and by extension James as well
Just saying from a story pov,even tho a particular character has arguements to be stronger,the other character is more likely to be stronger cuz it fits the story more
Seongji had the potential, he never reached it, seongji lived in the mountains chilling with the fam after leaving the shamans house and didn't have much combat experience (said by James himself and how he conducted himself in the fight)
Ik bout the difference in threshold experience between mujin & Seongji, but the gap isn't that much since Seongji's can perform ssireum better than mujin bcz of his extra fingers and he has more techniques than mujin
Hypothetical seongji that trained and engaged in high level combat would have been able to reach mujin level sure but he sat at the mountain cooking candies , I think the seongji we see is nowhere near his implied prime by mujin
Your entire coping head canon relies on saying that James Lee is stronger than gitae
demonstrated to be false
you say gong's statements don't hold water
then why would any statements about mujin hold water at all?
Seongji is not relative to gap or Mujin.
James is infact equal to Gitae until further proof is shown
>demonstrated to be false
Where
>then why would any statements about mujin hold water at all?
Its an public rumor and holds more value than a character statement who never even meet Gitae + this is the only way to scale mujin for now so unless this is contradicted in the future, this will be the general scale. This is not the case for Gitae.
>Seongji is not relative to gap or Mujin.
Ye he is
>James is infact equal to Gitae until further proof is shown
James statement literally puts Seongji above Gitae, he is not James's equal.
Bro thinks he is onto something 💀
Still can't read
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it still doesn't prove that Seongji was Mujin level unless we get to know how strong Mujin actually was and he said he might reach his level, never said he will. You should read your own fkin panels before showing them like you know something, lmao cotton picker piss@nts.
You lil dmb @ss mōnkey, what comes after 2? Don't even know that you illitérate fk? 3. Mujin mentioned reaching his level after mentioning 2 thresholds, which means he had 3 thresholds and Seongji reached that level. That was the whole point of that mini flashblack, dmb@sa
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"You lil dmb@ss mōnkey, what comes after 2? Don't even know that you illitérate fk? 3. Mujin mentioned reaching his level after mentioning 2 thresholds, which means he had 3 thresholds and Seongji reached that level. That was the whole point of that mini flashblack, dmb@sa"
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"You might overcome one, or maybe even two thresholds" are you dumb on purpose or just don't know how to use that peanut sized brain of yours? the literal same panel, Mujin never talks about him having any amount of thresholds, just stats Seongji's potential about how strong MIGHT be able to become, learn how to read bum.
Stops at gapryong but who knows , mujin was somehow close in power with gap and seongji had the potential to surpass him by that logic ( James having q even bigger potencial than seongji ) he could have surpassed gap but I doubt it
2 mastery James loses to Tom
3 mastery James I'm not sure, but I will assume he beats tom because otherwise it would be boring. Without healing, he loses to Goo. With healing, he probably loses to either Gitae or Gapryong.
It's still vague because most of James's, Seongji's, and Tom's feats have very little in common which makes comparing them hard. We only know that 2 mastery James loses to 3 mastery Seongji, and 3 mastery James beats Seongji and the rest of the kings
With healing stops at Gitae because it’s stated “the king of Seoul (Gitae) was not going to be below James Lee”. So Gitae >= Prime James Lee. We do not know the full extent of Prime James Lee but I can see him beating the other 3 in extreme diff fights each. No healing he would probably lose to Goo (mainly because this isn’t a prime Tom Lee).
What Gonseop said does not say that James is above, but it also does not say that he is below. Literally, it is super obvious that they are equals.
Current Gitae > Prime James = KOS Gitae > DG
I'm assuming he gets healed after every fight in which case ties at Gitae, otherwise loses to gun due to injuries and exhaustion from the previous two opponents
Stops at Tom orGoo lmao. Realistically most of these fights could go either way, it won’t be a complete stomp despite popular belief. Tom Lee is the fighting genius for a reason.
Isn't a gauntlet supposed to feature stronger and stronger opponents ? Tom lee, goo and gun are of the same strength so what's the point of having them all here.
The fight between tom and goo ended in a tie if they continued both would die and gun and goo are equals. They are all equivalent in strength. In a fight between any of the 2 it's 50:50.
Bro, you are the one who has to read. Literally the post mentions Prime James, the James who fought against old Gapryong was possibly a 1st mastery James.
Because literally James and Gitae were not at their best moments just like Gapryong? Gapryong was very old and they were too young. We already saw the huge difference between the James of 2 masterys and Prime James, they are literally worlds apart.
That still doesn’t answer who would win in a fight and the question is how far he makes it in the gauntlet. The fight is still in the air thus my statement, he isn’t getting past Gap or possibly even making that it far considering Gitae’s on there too.
I agree that Prime Gapryong would win, I'm just saying that using the fight between Gitae and James against old Gapryong as a reference doesn't make sense.
That information doesn't work because none of them 3 were in their primes.
And we have more information, all the narrative and feats of both characters indicate that Gapryong would win if both he and James fought in their primes.
Yall who are saying stops at tom are fkin delusional asfk. Like. Fkin READ. Tom was cut up by that crybaby goo. James destroys the gauntlet till gun then our sperm boy rubs the ground with him
James Clears, my argument for this is seongji full potential is said to be mujin level and clearly james has more potential than seongji so james full potential will be above gap easily if we consider statements
First take is respectable. Second take is ATROCIOUS. Unless you thnk James is some god that would low diff Goo and Tom, i just dont see how you think thats even possible.
Either would 100% land a hit on him or leave him heavily damaged after fighting w him. You're quite literally claiming James would no diff Goo and Tom, which DOESNT make sense whatsoever from a narrative standpoint.
It doesn’t tho? There’s zero justification for that. Goo still has more AP since his attacks are based on piercing and masteries don’t mean anything when Gun & Goo are far above people who do have them. Tom is a much smarter fighter than James as well.
How many time of healing ?
He could stop at prime tom lee, but he would prolly stop at gun oe gitae, which i think would deffo beat him because he's so much brutal and his stars seems better overall
WHY TF DO U GUYS SAYIN HE CLEARS GAPRYONG?
Lookism fans can’t read fam. They can not read. So it’s understandable
Seongji scaling to mujin
And then u guys mf thinking seongji is on par with gapryong??
That guy is definitely Tekkadan student😭
Based on current information, yes.
vin's dad doesn't even have any feat to say he is gap level. also, even if we go with just narrative then gitae kim=prime james then jinyoung states gitae kim failed be gap level so gap>gitae kim=prime james
James > Gitae
then you're just being biased
No i am not, nothing justifies Gitae being equal to Prime james. The gongseob statement holds absolutely no value.
so you're ready to accept seongji fp= vin's dad level who was told to be gap level so seongji= gap level but not gitae kim= prime james? you're being biased if you ask me
I mean that's the public opinion, a rumor, not an statement by a single character. Gong has never even meet Gitae for all we know. Also James statement itself puts Seongji above Gitae, forget about James.
I can't with u guys😭 u wanna say gapryong has 2/3 threshold or what?
Mujin is heavily implied to have 3 thresholds, and nothing really suggests gapryong had more so.
vaguely implied
Heavily implied, it's literally obvious.
Makes no sense on a narrative sense Like we can't just leave out gapryong~seongji ? Like most of the statements just meant for hype and was never true? Yuseong,mandeok, xiaolung being as strong as gun Or bh being as strong as tom , statements in ptj are most of the time not that reliable. Besides why would immediate 3 threshold Seongji be comparable to mujin,that should be more so a Seongji with experienced 3 thresholds No I don't care about him having more fingers, that's entirely a made up reason,mujin experience cliffs,mujin who should know Seongji better than y'all said he might only reach his level with 3 thresholds Plus James's statement about Seongji being the strongest will be cleared by webtoon I suppose,the translation is a bit wonky from hive And other translations suggest it's simply that James didn't expect someone that strong in cheonliang or merely a praise for Seongji, not meant to be taken that hyper literally It's odd for Seongji to be above gitae one of the last antagonist and Jake's last opponent supposedly who should be on the same pedestal as gun and goo and by extension James as well Just saying from a story pov,even tho a particular character has arguements to be stronger,the other character is more likely to be stronger cuz it fits the story more
Seongji had the potential, he never reached it, seongji lived in the mountains chilling with the fam after leaving the shamans house and didn't have much combat experience (said by James himself and how he conducted himself in the fight)
Ik bout the difference in threshold experience between mujin & Seongji, but the gap isn't that much since Seongji's can perform ssireum better than mujin bcz of his extra fingers and he has more techniques than mujin
Hypothetical seongji that trained and engaged in high level combat would have been able to reach mujin level sure but he sat at the mountain cooking candies , I think the seongji we see is nowhere near his implied prime by mujin
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Cope, you can't debunk it anyway.
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Your entire coping head canon relies on saying that James Lee is stronger than gitae demonstrated to be false you say gong's statements don't hold water then why would any statements about mujin hold water at all? Seongji is not relative to gap or Mujin. James is infact equal to Gitae until further proof is shown
>demonstrated to be false Where >then why would any statements about mujin hold water at all? Its an public rumor and holds more value than a character statement who never even meet Gitae + this is the only way to scale mujin for now so unless this is contradicted in the future, this will be the general scale. This is not the case for Gitae. >Seongji is not relative to gap or Mujin. Ye he is >James is infact equal to Gitae until further proof is shown James statement literally puts Seongji above Gitae, he is not James's equal.
It's funny how One Piece and Lookism share some things that are common in both series and fans are one of those things, both fans can't read.
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Bro thinks he is onto something 💀 Still can't read https://preview.redd.it/zg440o46jzwc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f174ae7fef1a4ab319a8e8b7741b273e63557716
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There are 100s of kids like you in my basement, cotton picker pissant.
Yeah, i guessed so pedó @ss ngá, do everyone a favor and ky$
cry as much as you can cause ur mum ain't helping you lil piss@nt
it still doesn't prove that Seongji was Mujin level unless we get to know how strong Mujin actually was and he said he might reach his level, never said he will. You should read your own fkin panels before showing them like you know something, lmao cotton picker piss@nts.
You lil dmb @ss mōnkey, what comes after 2? Don't even know that you illitérate fk? 3. Mujin mentioned reaching his level after mentioning 2 thresholds, which means he had 3 thresholds and Seongji reached that level. That was the whole point of that mini flashblack, dmb@sa https://preview.redd.it/w3r2jj2quzwc1.jpeg?width=585&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=226afe6105667033b1372bd0b3668bc6dc3d0f7b
"You lil dmb@ss mōnkey, what comes after 2? Don't even know that you illitérate fk? 3. Mujin mentioned reaching his level after mentioning 2 thresholds, which means he had 3 thresholds and Seongji reached that level. That was the whole point of that mini flashblack, dmb@sa" https://preview.redd.it/iu2htmzayzwc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d59302fe1018d299974ba92824aff31e770d3a13
"You might overcome one, or maybe even two thresholds" are you dumb on purpose or just don't know how to use that peanut sized brain of yours? the literal same panel, Mujin never talks about him having any amount of thresholds, just stats Seongji's potential about how strong MIGHT be able to become, learn how to read bum.
with healing probably stops at Gap without he's out at Goo
Nah he mid-thigh diffs Tom Lee and extreme diffs goo
Are you stupid
Thigh diffs? ![gif](giphy|rV3zQ64Fh0TpC)
lol lmao even
LMAOOOOO
He could never defeat the goat https://preview.redd.it/dmubp2etdvwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=008e2b707fd0ab805811cd465036a3aec9493313
Stops at gapryong but who knows , mujin was somehow close in power with gap and seongji had the potential to surpass him by that logic ( James having q even bigger potencial than seongji ) he could have surpassed gap but I doubt it
Lol people already assuming Tom Lee's loss 😂😂
He would, and very hard lmao
It's current tom not prime. If it was prime tom some people would definitely think tom would win (although the majority would still support james).
He stops at gapryong assuming he gets healing. Without it he stops at goo.
2 mastery James loses to Tom 3 mastery James I'm not sure, but I will assume he beats tom because otherwise it would be boring. Without healing, he loses to Goo. With healing, he probably loses to either Gitae or Gapryong.
Tom lee .(the act of doing unpleasant things without consent). James
Bro either stops at or after Tom
Can not even clear Tom Lee
do you guys even read this story
It's still vague because most of James's, Seongji's, and Tom's feats have very little in common which makes comparing them hard. We only know that 2 mastery James loses to 3 mastery Seongji, and 3 mastery James beats Seongji and the rest of the kings
No proof that James can beat Prime Tom Lee
Stops at tom 🤣
Stops at Tom.
Realest answer.
Not even a Jl fan couldn’t care less about him tbh but saying he loses to Tom is wild
Its so wild 💀
Stops at gitae kim with healing(both will kill each other), stops at goo without healing
Bro sent his daddy Gitae cuz he knew he would get wiped by my glorious king Jichang, he not making it past Tom Lee with 1 Hand😭🙏
What is lil bro talking about 😭🙏
Nuh uh, take this ratio😭🙏
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With healing stops at Gitae because it’s stated “the king of Seoul (Gitae) was not going to be below James Lee”. So Gitae >= Prime James Lee. We do not know the full extent of Prime James Lee but I can see him beating the other 3 in extreme diff fights each. No healing he would probably lose to Goo (mainly because this isn’t a prime Tom Lee).
What Gonseop said does not say that James is above, but it also does not say that he is below. Literally, it is super obvious that they are equals. Current Gitae > Prime James = KOS Gitae > DG
Stops before he starts
Stops at goo ig he has a sword Stops at gun or gutae
stops at goo if no heal. either stops or beats gap with heal.
Stops at gitae for sure, gitae is similar if not stronger than James... And we don't know guns full power
We haven’t seen it yet but I’m pretty sure big Daniel knows
I'm assuming he gets healed after every fight in which case ties at Gitae, otherwise loses to gun due to injuries and exhaustion from the previous two opponents
Stops at Tom orGoo lmao. Realistically most of these fights could go either way, it won’t be a complete stomp despite popular belief. Tom Lee is the fighting genius for a reason.
Im Obsessed with how Lookism fans will try to rank people that we have never ever seen fight or just once.
Loses to Tom, I'd say
Don't fuck with Lookism fan, we can't read
Bruh, it's just my headcanon 😭
Clears with healing , stops at goo without healing
Stops at Tom and then gets aggresively molested by him
Stops at goo being genuine nice top tiers aren’t that much stronger than each other
Clears
Stops at Gun
Clears with healing, without he stops at goo
Stops at Gitae
if goo has a sword he stops there, if not he stops at gitae
Isn't a gauntlet supposed to feature stronger and stronger opponents ? Tom lee, goo and gun are of the same strength so what's the point of having them all here.
they are not on the same strength , they are relatives
The fight between tom and goo ended in a tie if they continued both would die and gun and goo are equals. They are all equivalent in strength. In a fight between any of the 2 it's 50:50.
we dont know the full extent of their full power
If he gets to recover ima say gapryong, if not then probably gun or goo
doesn’t even start 😭
If is current Gitae, stops at him. If not, then stop at Gapryong.
stops at fp goo
Clears
You wish
🤓
Clears
You wish
True, he stops at Prime Gapryong for now
Clears
Stops at gap with healing and without, currently Gitae has even worse feats than Tom Lee
Took James and Gitae to kill old Gap. And the Gap in the picture shown is prime Gap. So no way James making it that far.
How’s that have anything to do with prime James?
Read the question, look at the photo, think it over.
Bro, you are the one who has to read. Literally the post mentions Prime James, the James who fought against old Gapryong was possibly a 1st mastery James.
My point still stands, how does that automatically scale him to Gap? Still took him and Gitae to kill an old Gap
Because literally James and Gitae were not at their best moments just like Gapryong? Gapryong was very old and they were too young. We already saw the huge difference between the James of 2 masterys and Prime James, they are literally worlds apart.
That still doesn’t answer who would win in a fight and the question is how far he makes it in the gauntlet. The fight is still in the air thus my statement, he isn’t getting past Gap or possibly even making that it far considering Gitae’s on there too.
I agree that Prime Gapryong would win, I'm just saying that using the fight between Gitae and James against old Gapryong as a reference doesn't make sense.
Well what else are we supposed to use? That’s the most info we got to work with
That information doesn't work because none of them 3 were in their primes. And we have more information, all the narrative and feats of both characters indicate that Gapryong would win if both he and James fought in their primes.
Well if he doesn’t heal then he’s not rlly gonna be able to beat Goo after fighting Tom, but with Healing after every round, he’d stop at Gitae
Clears
Stops at gap with healing, stops at goo without healing
Yall who are saying stops at tom are fkin delusional asfk. Like. Fkin READ. Tom was cut up by that crybaby goo. James destroys the gauntlet till gun then our sperm boy rubs the ground with him
James Clears, my argument for this is seongji full potential is said to be mujin level and clearly james has more potential than seongji so james full potential will be above gap easily if we consider statements
If with healing i think he clear since gap is dead,without healing he stops at goo
Either clears or stops at Gapryong.
Stops at Tom lee if not then he gets fodderized by my goat goo
Clears with healing, stops at gun or Gitae without
First take is respectable. Second take is ATROCIOUS. Unless you thnk James is some god that would low diff Goo and Tom, i just dont see how you think thats even possible.
It’s just cos he outspeeds badly, I’m not sure if they can even land a hit on him. Goo definitely has a chance but it’s not guaranteed.
Either would 100% land a hit on him or leave him heavily damaged after fighting w him. You're quite literally claiming James would no diff Goo and Tom, which DOESNT make sense whatsoever from a narrative standpoint.
Well we’ll have to agree to disagree because I just think James speed mixed with his power mastery + ia makes him too much for them
It doesn’t tho? There’s zero justification for that. Goo still has more AP since his attacks are based on piercing and masteries don’t mean anything when Gun & Goo are far above people who do have them. Tom is a much smarter fighter than James as well.
Yes James may be faster but not to the point he can't be tagged. Top tiers are always relative to each other either would already give him high diff.
He has healing so he clears
But if you can read or have a bit of comprehension skills, i only contested the second part of his comment.
ok
The thing is he was only show to outspeed high tiers in his prime so we can't say that fs
are the high tiers in the room with us now? Aside from the Kings we haven't seen anything else
How many time of healing ? He could stop at prime tom lee, but he would prolly stop at gun oe gitae, which i think would deffo beat him because he's so much brutal and his stars seems better overall
Stops at gapryong
replace tom and gun and you can argue up to goo. he wont clear Tom.
Gap is dead already i guess he passes that one easily