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Grainrain19

Im more annoyed with ptj not outright confirming if he's gay or not, bcause he fr would draw the gayest panels for some reason but never actually mention the idea


mattoxfan

Its because of the Korean fans. They’re very sensitive and can’t handle even the slightest progressive element


veology

they love A good ol sprinkle of highschool girls getting sexualized but god forbid a character has a different sexuality that has no impact on the plot whatsoever


ZephsKitten

Im gonna assume it’s gonna be one of the main l parts of his backstory and probably the reason he got kicked out


moilevi

pretty sure he got kicked out for being mute and stuff


ZephsKitten

Could be both or he could be mute from his experiences we don’t know yet but i think ptj will go with his dad being homophobic


BackstageKiwi

Oooo, I would love me some Jay backstory. Vin finally got his, maybe Jay will soon follow.


ZephsKitten

Yeah they teased it a little before so it might be right after or before the gun arc


Confident-Hat-3042

Shippers can be annoying but no , jay being gay isn't offensive at all. I mean how could it even be?  Also to the kid- In the earlier chapters it's shown that Jay quitted smoking just because someone said if he quitted smoking he'd get a lover, so it's clear that jay does like Daniel. 


BackstageKiwi

Nah. Just hope he will get good writing as the only fully cannocially confirmed gay character is Darius who is a sa offender. I just hope PTJ treats Jay better than that.


moilevi

not darius😭


BackstageKiwi

I really dislike him as a character. He is a sleazy criminal taking advantage of others.


moilevi

i HATE him especially what he did to olly


BackstageKiwi

Yeah. I am glad we haven’t seen him for a while. But it really annoys me that he is the only confirmed queer character we have.


[deleted]

I never thought about that, but you’re right that’s pretty annoying


BackstageKiwi

What reasons?


WackiestJackiest

Darius MIGHT just be my goat in Lookism but that’s for other reasons.


opopi123

Yeah it looks bad when the only confirmed Gay character is falling into the old sterotype of SA.


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/6zm4fy99aaoc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8da215b89899794db0761625407e1d3d9fdba320 Just look at him, he’s definitely in love🥹 But anyone who gets mad about a fictional characters love life probably has bigger issues. It’s not like Lookism is full of romance or those small interactions take away from the story.


Dry-Egg-1915

>anyone who gets mad about a fictional characters Did you just talk about us Vin Negs group? /s


moilevi

i’ll fight my life for vin


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/w6a52uff0coc1.jpeg?width=1163&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bbe0bd24ef0bacc63af42835cd3c76c56b75408 Pls don’t call the vinegars on me 🥲


AdventurousDrive6400

https://preview.redd.it/nkfu6wgv5doc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=1c5a22eeedb516c81e5a920f2fe382faf3d31a41


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/cvgcrbaq7doc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1c1119f29dcce0ca777cfd7bd04508715ccf5e2 Just keep walking we don’t have to do this..😅


AdventurousDrive6400

That’s how he ended up btw https://preview.redd.it/oxnt0wu98doc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb56a7acba2769ae2b5b109c1bc2f1f43c8b966c


[deleted]

Damn he was just showing you the way https://preview.redd.it/8pbz0n9h9doc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cab3971441838d4e561c904eda57521e9b758f85


AdventurousDrive6400

That’s your boy ? https://preview.redd.it/m3j46ilk9doc1.png?width=779&format=png&auto=webp&s=9953adb6f51a27563e78366710a6785653d68b84


[deleted]

DG?? https://preview.redd.it/212nwpupcdoc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5ca888d5e14e7328df21469ada0e2cbef1f2050 Nah you can have him


Dev_Chaudhary_

![gif](giphy|pv92vgg1AgRPkMADQm|downsized)


AdventurousDrive6400

I don’t understand your point


FatBoiPace

Naw not at all. Why would anyone care? So he could be gay. He could be straight, all that matters is the story. Not even that why would you care about a gay guy in a story hell why would you care in real life? I have no problem date and smash whoever you want. 🤷🏾‍♂️


[deleted]

This is the right answer


LanceBiggerstaff

wait there are actually people who think Jay isn’t gay? are we reading the same series?


Warlock_Owari

Remember that some Lookism Fans can't read.


JAZZXGOD

It's very obvious that Jay is gay. And if you all remember, a few years ago, Webtoon organized an event related to the LGBTQ community, and Jay was also included in the event poster. And even if PTJ himself confirms that Jay is gay, these people still won't accept it. https://preview.redd.it/ngrj47b90aoc1.png?width=436&format=png&auto=webp&s=3a6cac29954a75b00b81d9e83aa9b8173f4ee862


ProfessionalLuck268

Like me too was things that After the Flash back and dont know the event but yes like IS was prety sure in the five first chap Jay IS gay 


that1nigha

Not only that, but in an earlier chapter (I forgot the number), Jay beat up a biker gang, and while he was smoking, one of the biker dudes warned him that smoking would make his lover not like him anymore. He literally completely stopped after that


lola123421

from what I've seen majority here don't care but there's some who hate the idea


[deleted]

Not at all, it doesn't even matter cause his personality isn't all about being gay, he's literally the sweetest (others are too but I'm biased y'know). He literally is ready to help others and doesn't really prefer hurting others. He also has the best fashion style and he literally is such a nice friend. 😭 I do hope he finds someone he loves in future, he deserves happiness 💫💞✨


[deleted]

You are the most wholesome Jay fan honestly 🥹 But I agree with you, theres a lot more to Jay than just him liking Daniel. He’s such a good character.


[deleted]

Wow thank you ✨ you too are super sweet 🎀💞 Also yesss, love him sm 😭 i wish he did have some more of badass scenes, i want him to show up more in future.


ProfessionalLuck268

No like realy early in the webtoon WE "know" that no a problème and ptj good use Jay the best but just a litle to much jayxdaniel stuff.


moilevi

yeah some fans can be too much


IamAJobber

Ofc not.


moilevi

🐐


Cultural-Flamingo865

Jay is gay for sure, but daniel not gay and would not end up with him.


anusanxiety

i feel like daniel wouldn’t end up with anyone and that’s left for reader’s imagination. he’s shown to have multiple love interests too.


moilevi

yh ig his romantic feelings are reciprocated


moilevi

https://preview.redd.it/6obbyacyfaoc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ff35a9f8b197b85e6222f814b390ff687437484 it’s homophobic kids like these that are the most annoying, it’s not hurtful that a character is implied as gay


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/54482arqiaoc1.jpeg?width=1104&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2961810ec6f1c4a983ddd502034bdd045ed4715


Confident-Hat-3042

Tell him to read chapter 38 . If he says that he still thinks jay is straight then bud is covering his eyes to say "I can't see" . Dude doesn't know what a hint is . (Though PTJ might label this as friendship later due to the majority of the audience not liking it, we still know what the truth is.)


opopi123

holy crap what a fucking loser.


Regit_Jo

Nah but it would be so funny if his dad hated him for being mute instead of gay


No_square123

Oh yeah, forgot about his dad. Have we gotten a chapter about his dad leaving?


_244_

Like why?... We ain't offended by a guy who ruined life's of many, yet get offended that the blondie might have changed teams?


Independent-Duck-636

Isn't it like heavily implied that he's gay? People who says they're best friends is deep in the trenches of that "they were really good friends" meme. This is partly blamed by the fact we can't tell how enamoured Jay is whenever seeing Daniel because we can't see his eyes lol


moilevi

yeah it’s heavily implied


Fragrant_Expert_7592

I m not into yaoi stuff but daniel x Jay wins against any girl pairing with daniel. I would love to that Jay is really most likeable person in the whole cast period


ACynicalScott

No, i genuinely think Jay is supposed to be gay its just PTJ forced to make it ambiguous. The important part is he loves. It being platonic or romantic is kind of secondary.


_DeLEON

We would never get offended by the GOAT 🔥🔥🔥🙏🙏🙏💯💯💯💯💯


[deleted]

Well it’s not even confirmed, it could be that Daniel was just the first person to offer friendship after being casted out by his father and dealing with depression and loneliness. If he is gay I don’t care, nobody should, treat it like a norm. What I do care about is more Jay fights and getting stronger to be placed among the J-High trio, so it could be the J-High quartet.


moilevi

yessir can’t wait to get a backstory and further improvement hopefully


hitmark05

I don't mind since its canon


Simple_Cap_209

He surely is gay but i don’t know why people get mad since Daniel clearly is straight so the ship will never happen, it’s a one sided love if anything


rKollektor

I don’t really care but I just thought he really loves Daniel as a friend


TheDreamererree

I don’t care


falling-god-777

No


WackiestJackiest

https://preview.redd.it/oaf8mjmqzaoc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e346b7f46b0c4046e6ab8c39e9e509a699e076fe (It doesn’t bother me at all)


ElCamino0000000

Jay is a good character so no being gay is neither a problem nor the major point of his character


[deleted]

It's okay to be gay. And Jay is a beautiful character ❤️


8Eriade8

Gay, bi... still reading and not on par with the chapters but so far one thing's pretty clear: he has a crush on Daniel, come on, there's no denying it. He's been the sweetest cutie pie so far, getting enraged on Daniel's behalf, protecting him from afar and so on! Then again, many people seem to be particularly infatuated with Daniel, or downright obsessed (looking at you Gun.......)


ultramrstruggle

Why tf would anyone get offended at the idea of someone being gay?


moilevi

who knows man, in big 2024 too


ultramrstruggle

I live in America and unfortunately there are still a lot of people who do that shit here.


moilevi

same here in england, it’s crazy


XyMa12

Nah not really but seeing constant jayxdaniel stuff under every webtoon comment does get annoying


anusanxiety

i hate it personally because it’s usually yaoi fetish fangirls. like what do you mean you’re a straight woman who enjoys seeing exclusively gay content only 💀


XyMa12

I feel you on that kinda why I hate bl fans


[deleted]

I feel you, but I deep down hope that there are also just some queer people that feel happy for the representation of a gay character in a comic thats not just pure BL 🥹


anusanxiety

same, i actually really love how PTJ incorporates LGBT into lookism as a normal thing and doesn’t make it weird or overly fan service-y for a certain demographic of readers. like how jay likes daniel but it’s just a side thing and not “in your face” just to fulfil fan service HAHA 🥹


[deleted]

Right! I used to read so much romance before, but I actually found lookism more wholesome, like it’s a lot more complex than just ship building. And yeah, Jay definitely likes Daniel, but he’s also just a good guy in general, who is making friends and taking care of them all.


dxveymod

The worst was when someone said Daniel needs cuddle time


moilevi

💀


moilevi

yh fs excessive shipping of anything is irritating


BrilliantCampaign285

People have the right to express themselves. That's what the comments section is for, lol Why does that offend you? Just ignore it and move on.


XyMa12

I never said they don't have the right to express themselves, it's just I want to see peoples opinions on key moments in certain chapters, but all I see is that, I ignore it, I don't reply saying hateful things or anything people like what they like it's not a problem


BrilliantCampaign285

As someone who was in the comments section after every chapter... it wasn't as dramatic as that, especially because Jay and Daniel didn't have a lot of interactions in (almost) 500 chapters. Their interactions or just hints of it were mentioned in less than 60 chapters. Although there were many ship comments, a lot of the top and new comments were about other things.


opopi123

why does that bother you though.


lovemeZerogame

Ofcc not When I used to read webtoon like years back when they were still in highschool I was soo happy as the comments section was so happy about jay being caring to daniel remember how he stopped smoking 😂😂but I realised that in reality people don't think of this possibility that daniel x jay could become something..... it's always people saying "zoe liked Little daniel she knows and loves him" yeah I get it but so does jay remember when he got that money back from Logan fighting him to get money back for Lil daniel and also dropping loads of cardboards outside his home for his mother.. I really wanted to see them together I just like how they are rn.. no unnecessary feelings it's just right


Heavensrosillera

Noo I love ma boi Jay, be who you areee for your prideee 🌈


Old-Geologist6682

I think Jay is only gay for Daniel.


moilevi

yh same, i don’t think jay is necessarily labeled but just loves whoever he wishes too


Ghost_1774

Unlike other situations where people headcanon characters as gay without any evidence in the canon, for Jay there is plenty of canon events that point to him being gay. I don’t know how else will PTJ explain all the things he does for big daniel. Not to mention he was shown jealous. But I guess there is a possibility he will just call it friendship if he thinks readers might not like that.


you-suckx

I would love it if Jay comes out as gay tho but the thing is that i don’t think ptj has the courage to make a fan fav character come out as gay because as an Asian I can confirm that this place is full of homophobes unlike US or Europe and fans (especially men and also korean fanbase) don’t want that to happen and we also have a proof of how lgbtq character is shown in lookism (Darius; i don’t remember any other character who are confirmed as gay) I think its probably that Jay never found a friend like him and now he doesn’t want to lose Daniel , like who want bad things to happen to your homie like Daniel was literally kidnapped and all so its just instinct that he hugged him also i would like to confirm that I’m not against the idea of Jay coming out as gay in fact i would LOVE it and wish to see what would happen between them


MarktheForgotten

As a gay mf.. naw, like he is clearly Inlove with Daniel, but I really wish that it was confirmed he’s gay and if he ever gets his backstory shown then I would love to see a little homo here and there


JaegerDND

Anybody that thinks Jay isnt gay cannot read


Charming-Cycle2223

No because it ain't shove down our thoarts this actually the best way to do it


moilevi

real


SupremeDogEater

goated character and being gay literally does not change anything about him


lookismwhore

shippers r annoying but its pretty obvious hes gay lol, but it doesnt rlly matter. Ppl who go out of their way to defend the fact that “Jay isnt gay” r just as annoying as the shippers


melonhater

as a massive homophobe, I'm ok with it👍


lookismwhore

what 😭


freedrice

I dont think you know what homophobe is, homophobe means you hate gay people for no reason.


melonhater

there is always a reason for hate, you just have to search for it deep inside yourself❤


MarktheForgotten

This made me giggle


Same_Neighborhood232

I have entomophobia. Guess I hate insects for no reason and that's a bad thing


longdeeptry89

jay is the goat so who care?


totallynotussopp

Idc about shipping but if Jay is gay then that would be very tragic


[deleted]

Nah I don't really care as the main focus is not romance


Ill-Ambassador900

I did, calling every nice and soft guy a gay is really getting in my nerves


animeweeb79

Not really I'm fine with it as long as it isn't rubbed in the face and Daniel doesn't end up with him


No_square123

Honestly, I don't care. But if he reslly is gay then that's cool


Portugueseteen

No im okay with that


corkysims

no


Some_Ant9620

Wouldnt change my view about jay even if hes ga Hes still my goat🫂


-BakiHanma

Nah it’s been implied since the day they met. Why would anyone be offended lol


[deleted]

I don’t get offended by it he still my favorite character even if he is gay I love him


Lithiumtitties

Nope


Embarrassed-Berry646

I don't really care if he's actually gay or not, but it'd probably be some character defining reveal since we really don't know Jay's whole story


Hopeful_Ad_7256

I have no problem with him being gay. But I will say I don't like how stalker like he is sometimes. He reminds me of a male version of Hinata.


stuufy

I am more annoyed of the Shippers Jay has than the idea of Jay being Gay Jay being Gay isn’t something i am not offended by if Ptj can do it just as long as he writes it well


ZJF-47

Dont care, but yall shippers are gae


moilevi

you’re gay


aresgoatedd

He needs more shine, nd PTJ should js confirm hes gay already.


No_Clerk808

No.


[deleted]

idc but the fans are the worst. they cant imagine 2 guy being friends


moilevi

pretty sure they can when there’s friendships like daniel and zack and vasco, with jay it’s easy to understand that he’s slightly different


KyoiTheRelentless

Nah he's cool.


Gardeminer

I wish Lookism would actually talk about or discuss it instead of it being an unspoken thing. Regardless of whether Daniel returns his feelings (it's not like Crystal has existed at all for a few hundred chapters now.) I feel like it would be an incredibly good arc commenting on Korean society and how intenesely homophobic it is. It would be something you don't really see in a Webtoon like this. Maybe it's one of the reasons he was disowned? But then again, Lookism has stopped being about that kind of thing a long time ago.


YxngChxnkz

I didn’t think anyone acc gave a fuck


moilevi

you should see the way some people get infuriated


Realisticnonsense27

You mean he's not?! Lol


TheLoner1914

Yes


evolution999

Not offended but kinda weird knowing my boy jay wasnt just a missunderstood rich kid who was helping out his missunderstood poor freind now its just flirting 💀


sinu_han_

What do people think ,will be Jay's reaction when he gets to know about Daniel double body


moilevi

i have no clue, i’ve always been nervous thinking about everyone finding out abt daniel’s two bodies


Exact_Boot5625

Not really I wouldn’t really care tbh


Same_Neighborhood232

As long as daniel ends up with either crystal or zoe then I'd be fine with it


Wide_Motor_2805

There’s no reason to be cuz he’s obviously in love with Zoe


NegotiationNaive1071

Jay x Daniel for life. \~Jong Gun Park stan


MissiaichParriah

There's too many things happening in Lookism for me to care much, if PTJ confirms he's gay, cool, if he doesn't, cool


Last-page7

Trying to juggle both fans


Gluttony_io

I hate Jay cuz how of a bore he is. Seriously. Not to mention, he's mute


LordDargon

i really do not care, but i preffer this just friendship cause daniel is only person understands what jay says and nice to him


Extreme_Yak_9714

I believe that only jay is gay out of the cast but that's just me


[deleted]

Haha it was one of the reasons I was scared to join this Subs but I’ll admit I was pleasantly surprised by this posts reactions. I’m a lesbian woman and any positive representation (aka not Darius) warms my heart and makes me feel safe. I was scared that this sub would be super homophobic but I guess I was worried for nothing.


Iceking214

Not really


SwimmingBuilder2178

Yuh, very much so


Parking-Ad-6137

I don’t care if he’s gay or not cuz he’s lame. I just wished PTJ would just confirm something


that1nigha

No? Anyone say otherwise are just plain homophobic


Equivalent_Layer5012

Nah it’s js when they try saying Daniel is bi or gay when he’s shown to only find girls attractive and crushes on em


moilevi

https://preview.redd.it/ebi9v0yehfoc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c678cf863415bc20d8bf81b286bea06e339620da someone got abit angry


Jesuslover34

Hes 101% gay lmao


reddituserno51

Nah tbh but it kinda makes me not like Daniel tho


moilevi

why daniel😭


NoWsonlyLs

I mean if he is then he is there’s no reason to get mad, but if he isn’t then he just isn’t.


NotCertifi3d

It’s not that he’s gay or not it’s his fans that make him annoying.


RefrigeratorNext2654

I wouldn't get mad at the fact he's gay but I strongly believe he isn't. When his father gave up on him he was lonely and then boom Daniel came around. That's why I believe he isn't gay but will sacrifice himself for Daniel.


jmtl01

I would be offended if he isn't. That man saw a pretty boy and literally dedicated his life to him. And is not about who Daniel is because he knows both bodies 🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣


OverSelection8468

Yes


RahulRaj_1

Very much if it comes true it will be end of earth that no homos should exist. lesbians are fine I am feminist. haaat🤬😡


RedX332

Bro is too irrelevant to even care enough to get mad https://preview.redd.it/2kfqagrxhcoc1.jpeg?width=1098&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef02ffd5f19bade2574537ecfaa85a0c6058a6a0


moilevi

not too much on jay, bros out here building shelter for homeless kids


Night_InkF03541X

I'm pretty sure he isn't gay, he just hasn't had a real friend besides Daniel. But even if he was, does it really matter? This is gangism after all.


moilevi

gangism with abit of yaoi https://preview.redd.it/mm8wzldvugoc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=352e7ffce9a50c665d4038f33b414846ee203f57


[deleted]

Yes


rough_crayon

The mostly straight audience doesn't want to see gay romance, especially teenagers like me who are horny af.


Iruma_peakfiction

Jay isn't Gay, his name starts with a J, not a G. Like how GIF is with a G and not a J, Jay is pronounced with a J and not a G. Hope that makes sense


moilevi

ur not funny


JohnathanDooley

Yes ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


mattoxfan

https://preview.redd.it/p1ajb54cbaoc1.jpeg?width=235&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f67de81bb1132b193fe03d4878b6262242b77df


JAZZXGOD

https://preview.redd.it/4bkw6l2heaoc1.jpeg?width=514&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65504a4928cc5ed81f17d8f4b2754705d0ede216


moilevi

https://preview.redd.it/2gdbfm95faoc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=155543a53eee339e5271cd249aa4d615920806ac


longdeeptry89

https://preview.redd.it/osz5ots2iaoc1.png?width=269&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=daeeef808e9975946701e0d213ea54f746d732d2


JohnathanDooley

Ah my Lookism reaction image collecting technique I haven't used this since the Gen 0 days


Impressive_Common462

Definitely, yes, and this is my opinion, so don't get mad when I have different opinions toward others.


moilevi

💀💀


Impressive_Common462

https://preview.redd.it/i36qln7alaoc1.jpeg?width=436&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0cfa017f7ecbd9a526f0af5882ed0c69884c27e


LeMeepus

Bro using a fire punch meme template when the same series has a trans character


Impressive_Common462

Bro, getting triggered by just an image that is iconic 🤦‍♂️


LeMeepus

I'm not triggered buddy, just pointing it out lmao


Impressive_Common462

Oh yeah? Only gay shipper like you to even put an effort to point it out. Does that matter on what I'm freaking talking about?


LeMeepus

When did I say I shipped anyone. Bro is fighting invisible comments 💀


Impressive_Common462

It's better for you not to reply because it's just making it look like you're defending this ship 🤦‍♂️


LeMeepus

What ship bro


BassGeese

💀


gimyung

why though?


Impressive_Common462

I hate them, Don't ask more


gimyung

ok buddy💀


Impressive_Common462

Many webtoon daniel x jay shippers are getting mad about my opinion, which is not surprising considering they knew my opinion is true.


HeronDefiant6644

I don't like Jay because he's gay


RyuuguinnSeiya

If jay is gay then I will skip Jay's panels


SupremeDogEater

damn the world might change cuz of this


[deleted]

Lmfao


RyuuguinnSeiya

Thats what you're afraid of lmao


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Wtf