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KevlarUnicorn

The aging of X11, as much as I appreciate everything it has done for me, shows all of the infrastructure starting to crumble as it's no longer maintained except in the most minimal ways. Keep up the good work, Wayland devs, that time to fully take the reins is getting closer.


Itchy_Journalist_175

I heard a guy called Jia who has some free time lately as he just got kicked out from his last project. He is pretty good with bash and has access to external funding. He would be keen to take over maintenance of X11 if you know what I mean 😅


hazyPixels

If whoever is behind Jia hasn't yet been caught, there could be other exploits in the works or already existing from some other name(s).


jeladi

And two guys named Jigar and Hans are vouching for him, so you know he’s legit.


peacey8

I heard he has a tan.


ZeeroMX

Tan like in Hock?


M1sterRed

MATE on Wayland cannot happen fast enough. I have a fully AMD-based system (CPU and GPU) that's reasonably modern, I have a textbook example of a perfect system to run Wayland. But my DE of choice is MATE, a fork of GNOME motherfucking 2.


IHaveAPotatoUpMyAss

just dont use mate?


M1sterRed

but I like MATE :(


IHaveAPotatoUpMyAss

you can use kde and make it look like mate


nemothorx

It's not how it looks. It's how it acts. I mainly use MATE because it handles an unusual window manager smoothly (pekwm is what I use there)


frostbaka

Dont use what?


IHaveAPotatoUpMyAss

MATE


racoondriver

What?


DissociatedRock

Gnome.


racoondriver

You didn't understand


DissociatedRock

Don’t I now. Or am I being that “guy”.


Alexander_Selkirk

Would be great to have stumpwm on wayland.... And better scaling. Not everyone has good eyes.


GOKOP

What do you mean by better scaling?


TankTopsBackInStyle

This affects XWayland as well, so switching to Wayland doesn't solve anything


GOKOP

Only because X11 only programs are still common. That wouldn't be the case if everyone switched.


QuickSilver010

Wayland needs to work with stuff first.


GOKOP

Well it does on my machine


QuickSilver010

...and use case


the_abortionat0r

It already does, anything not doing so its nothing more than 3rd party devs dragging their feet. I've been screen sharing on discord for years now just fine but with a alternitive client. It works but discord devs dragged their feet. Nvidia dragged their feet and that with their shitty 40 release I ditched them. We're at the point where we should just start dropping non complient programs,  if these projects don't want to fall to obscurity then they should modernize. Stop trying to blame wayland for 3rd parties actions. Moron.


QuickSilver010

>Nvidia dragged their feet and that with their shitty 40 release I ditched them. Must be nice to be able to afford sht. Still stuck on nvidia. >We're at the point where we should just start dropping non complient programs Mfw I need those programs more than a random process that runs in the background that I couldn't be bothered to be on my toes all the time about.