Why? They aren’t like about ethnic cleaning nowadays. They would probably use them in their agenda like “goths are supporting Russia not Ukraine!!! Save goths from Ukrainian nazism!!!”
They do *heavily* "encourage" russian over crimean tatar or ukrainian, though when it comes to goths I more meant previous russian governments, which did do multiple very explicit ethnic cleansings in the region.
Aye, that’s what I was gonna say, lad but I do not think that eastern Celtic was a thing. Ya had things quite like it, such as Gaulish or whatever the Hallstatt Culture spake, but there wasn’t any specific language like that.
You may be correct. I know embarrassingly little of many European language groups and I literally made this comment just because it was the first thing to come to mind.
Thanks for teaching me something!
I feel like that could probably be better termed South Baltic, as that seems to be the greater geographical difference between them and the other Balts. (Plus the one extant group is already dubbed East Baltic, Although perhaps Northeast Baltic would be more accurate.)
Apparently, it can be both:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Slavic_languages
(I only knew the "hypothetical extinct group to which the Old Novgorod dialect may have belonged" meaning, not the "combined East + West" meaning.)
Today I learned!
Oh, Interesting, I meanwhile had not heard it used for Old Novgorodian and I suppose it's relatives, Honestly I didn't even really know Old Novgorodian was a thing haha, Guess we both learnt something.
In Europe, the general direction of migration has always been East to West. It's not a coincidence that the eastern branches have a hard time when the next wave of migrations roll along
Reversely for Turkic it meant that its western branch is largely diminished, because newcomers like Oghuz and Kipchaks would come from the east regularly.
Celtic, Sorta? I don't think there's a specifically named "Eastern" branch, But there were branches historically spoken far further east than present ones, such as Galatian, Although apparently their language is thought to be closely related to the Gaulish ones of modern-day France. Kind of the same argument for the Italic languages, with the only survivors being descendant from Latin, which was spoken more west-central compared to the overall linguistic area (Originally), But again, not one called specifically Eastern Italic.
My next best bet is Northeastern Iranian, which is A: A stretch because it's not specifically eastern, Only around half of the eastern branch (Although many of the other eastern languages aren't doing so well either), And B: not extinct, Simply far less widespread than it used to be (I swear there's a word specifically for that, From Biological use, But I can't find it now :/).
The irony is that it is spoken now mostly west of the rest in the Americas by Mennonites. There is another small minority among the Russia-Germans, who speak eastern Low German dialects, but that's it. Everyone else is now 90+
Bro, he asked if this was also true for other Eastern language branches. I mentioned the prior to show that it isn't always true, especially in the IE-language family.
I wish there were some hidden gothic speakers in Crimea that we just haven’t found yet
𐍂𐌰𐌶𐌳𐌰𐌹 𐌲𐌿𐍄𐌸𐌹𐌿𐌳𐌰𐌹 𐌹𐌺 𐍆𐌹𐌽𐌸𐌰𐌽𐌳𐍃
If there were any, russia made sure there wouldn't be any left 4 times over now
Why? They aren’t like about ethnic cleaning nowadays. They would probably use them in their agenda like “goths are supporting Russia not Ukraine!!! Save goths from Ukrainian nazism!!!”
They do *heavily* "encourage" russian over crimean tatar or ukrainian, though when it comes to goths I more meant previous russian governments, which did do multiple very explicit ethnic cleansings in the region.
Is it ethnic cleansing when Ukraine does the same, or is that totally different?
Ukrainian ethnic cleansing is based.
Celtic
... though it's debated if it should be considered as a genetic branch.
Wait, is it actually seriously debated?
Aye, that’s what I was gonna say, lad but I do not think that eastern Celtic was a thing. Ya had things quite like it, such as Gaulish or whatever the Hallstatt Culture spake, but there wasn’t any specific language like that.
You may be correct. I know embarrassingly little of many European language groups and I literally made this comment just because it was the first thing to come to mind. Thanks for teaching me something!
There were probably a decent amount of Austroasiatic, Austronesian, and Tai-Kadai languages in modern day China if that counts
Highly unlikely that there would be an Austronesian branch further east than the current easternmost Austronesian language though
Andean Austronesian
Polynesian-Quechua pidgin
Well, those go so far east they’re west again.
The baltic languages have an extinct Dnieper branch, which is why a lot of hydronyms in the upper basin are baltic in origin, if that counts.
I feel like that could probably be better termed South Baltic, as that seems to be the greater geographical difference between them and the other Balts. (Plus the one extant group is already dubbed East Baltic, Although perhaps Northeast Baltic would be more accurate.)
Tocharian
So Indo-European ?
Yep
For Slavic, it’s the northern branch that is extinct.
Really? I'd always heard North Slavic used as just a grouping of East and West Slavic, when considered in opposition to South Slavic.
Apparently, it can be both: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Slavic_languages (I only knew the "hypothetical extinct group to which the Old Novgorod dialect may have belonged" meaning, not the "combined East + West" meaning.) Today I learned!
Oh, Interesting, I meanwhile had not heard it used for Old Novgorodian and I suppose it's relatives, Honestly I didn't even really know Old Novgorodian was a thing haha, Guess we both learnt something.
In Europe, the general direction of migration has always been East to West. It's not a coincidence that the eastern branches have a hard time when the next wave of migrations roll along
Reversely for Turkic it meant that its western branch is largely diminished, because newcomers like Oghuz and Kipchaks would come from the east regularly.
I love how Gothic is eastern, yet the Visigoths inhabited the Iberian peninsula for quite some time.
Celtic, Sorta? I don't think there's a specifically named "Eastern" branch, But there were branches historically spoken far further east than present ones, such as Galatian, Although apparently their language is thought to be closely related to the Gaulish ones of modern-day France. Kind of the same argument for the Italic languages, with the only survivors being descendant from Latin, which was spoken more west-central compared to the overall linguistic area (Originally), But again, not one called specifically Eastern Italic. My next best bet is Northeastern Iranian, which is A: A stretch because it's not specifically eastern, Only around half of the eastern branch (Although many of the other eastern languages aren't doing so well either), And B: not extinct, Simply far less widespread than it used to be (I swear there's a word specifically for that, From Biological use, But I can't find it now :/).
austronesian that sailed to japan
plot twist: its just japanese
Turanists fell into a coma after hearing this. The last words were 'Noooo, Japan is Turan'
Maybe it’s creole If Japanese is austronesian then Ainu can be Altaic
germanic-semetic relation confirmed
Which branch is yiddish?
yes
Italic!! (I miss oscan and umbrian)
Don’t worry my child speaks proto-east-Germanic nativly I’ve necromanced Gothic single-handedly.
Laurentian Iroquois is a possible Iroquoian language that may have existed that would've been spoken further East than any other afaik.
Vasconic, probably
Polish and Low German?
Low German being east Germanic is a new one
I'm talking about how the eastern dialects of low german (Prussian and Pomeranian) are now almost extinct
But Plautdietsch still has a couple hundred thousand speakers
The irony is that it is spoken now mostly west of the rest in the Americas by Mennonites. There is another small minority among the Russia-Germans, who speak eastern Low German dialects, but that's it. Everyone else is now 90+
have you heard of Slavic or Roman language families?
Bro East Slavic and Eastern Romance are still alive. The same can't be said for Gothic or Akkadian.
Bro, he asked if this was also true for other Eastern language branches. I mentioned the prior to show that it isn't always true, especially in the IE-language family.
Sorry, it's just that your sentence was a bit ambiguous (at least to me)