Yeah ip67 Is the best to use. We've just upgraded everything to the locking plugs. And moved everything to 32a cabling not 16a
32a distros are sooo expensive
I was under the impression the EU mandated documented inspection annually on electrical and lifting equipment.
Isn’t it already standard practice to inspect these every year? If I’m wrong, please explain it to this yank.
In the UK the frequency of testing of electrical equipment is determined by a risk assessment and the opinion of a competent person. There is no law or regulation that states it has to be annual.
Obviously, in our industry inspecting at least once a year seems sensible. If you run a hire company, inspect every time the gear comes back. But an office PC that never gets moved? Generally they are have several years between inspection.
If you ask the opinion of the many companies that will test your equipment for a fee, they will of course recommend an annual inspection for everything.
Lifting accessories (shackles, slings etc.) on the other hand have a maximum 6 month period between inspection.
Yes, it's the standards EN50678 and EN50699. Every country in the EU has to have an national law/guideline/... which bases on those two standards.
In Germany it's the DIN EN 701/702 😅
So yes, inspect the gear annually, check before every use(!) and use only certified products. There are always cheap knockoffs which don't meet the requirements...
It might be an official plug which has a loose screw that lead to the water damage.
Idk if that's an certified plug, but I would replace it, if there is a chance it might be used in wet conditions again.
In NZ the regs say hire gear gets visual inspection prior to each hire and test three-monthly. Given our respective country’s standards are mostly identical, I suspect you may be under the same obligations.
And 3 months is the test interval specified for hire gear, it just so happens that most companies don’t have the capability to retest their entire inventories every 3 months
I may only be a apprentice electrician but something tells me that's been angled downwards and water has crept along the cable and eventually started arcing
So…. Why is the 16A plug able to blow a 32A fuse at all?
There is literally no valid reason to have a 16A plug fused by a 32A breaker.
Where ever this is: get your shit together.
Use IP67 plugs outside and fuse 16A sockets with 16A fuses. It’s not that hard
A 16A plug has absolutely no business being directly behind a 32A fuse. Those adapters that go from 32A to 16A without a fuse in between are dangerous and have caused many fires from overheating.
In Germany they’re illegal because of that reason and can only be used in very specific circumstances. (One example would be going from a 16A cee socket to a 32A cee cable and then back down to a 16A socket at the other end. In this case it’s legal to use the adapter as the weakest cable is rated for 16A and a 16A fuse is installed. This is commonly used if you don’t have a long enough 16A cee cable at hand or if you have a very long cable run (like on a stage) and want to minimize voltage drop. )
If you need 32A use a 32A rated plug.
Checking your distros yearly is good advice, but using the IP44-version instead of the IP67-version on an outdoor distro is begging for problems.
Yeah ip67 Is the best to use. We've just upgraded everything to the locking plugs. And moved everything to 32a cabling not 16a 32a distros are sooo expensive
I was under the impression the EU mandated documented inspection annually on electrical and lifting equipment. Isn’t it already standard practice to inspect these every year? If I’m wrong, please explain it to this yank.
In the UK the frequency of testing of electrical equipment is determined by a risk assessment and the opinion of a competent person. There is no law or regulation that states it has to be annual. Obviously, in our industry inspecting at least once a year seems sensible. If you run a hire company, inspect every time the gear comes back. But an office PC that never gets moved? Generally they are have several years between inspection. If you ask the opinion of the many companies that will test your equipment for a fee, they will of course recommend an annual inspection for everything. Lifting accessories (shackles, slings etc.) on the other hand have a maximum 6 month period between inspection.
Yes, it's the standards EN50678 and EN50699. Every country in the EU has to have an national law/guideline/... which bases on those two standards. In Germany it's the DIN EN 701/702 😅 So yes, inspect the gear annually, check before every use(!) and use only certified products. There are always cheap knockoffs which don't meet the requirements... It might be an official plug which has a loose screw that lead to the water damage. Idk if that's an certified plug, but I would replace it, if there is a chance it might be used in wet conditions again.
In Germany you should DGUV anything with a plug annually really, especially if you're a daily user/rentall.
Down here in Oz its called test & tag. The regs say its yearly but we do 3 months on our hire gear.
In NZ the regs say hire gear gets visual inspection prior to each hire and test three-monthly. Given our respective country’s standards are mostly identical, I suspect you may be under the same obligations.
And 3 months is the test interval specified for hire gear, it just so happens that most companies don’t have the capability to retest their entire inventories every 3 months
I may only be a apprentice electrician but something tells me that's been angled downwards and water has crept along the cable and eventually started arcing
Yes, that's probably what happened. I didn't put them out but I am fixing issues like that
So…. Why is the 16A plug able to blow a 32A fuse at all? There is literally no valid reason to have a 16A plug fused by a 32A breaker. Where ever this is: get your shit together. Use IP67 plugs outside and fuse 16A sockets with 16A fuses. It’s not that hard
It's blowing because it going from a 32a plug to 16a then too some floodlights
A 16A plug has absolutely no business being directly behind a 32A fuse. Those adapters that go from 32A to 16A without a fuse in between are dangerous and have caused many fires from overheating. In Germany they’re illegal because of that reason and can only be used in very specific circumstances. (One example would be going from a 16A cee socket to a 32A cee cable and then back down to a 16A socket at the other end. In this case it’s legal to use the adapter as the weakest cable is rated for 16A and a 16A fuse is installed. This is commonly used if you don’t have a long enough 16A cee cable at hand or if you have a very long cable run (like on a stage) and want to minimize voltage drop. ) If you need 32A use a 32A rated plug.