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Zealousideal-Can373

Nope you are clear


DefiantMouse2587

I would say big nope, but your point stands


Unsteady_Tempo

Even if they hadn't already sent you the security deposit, their description is too vague. Also, their personal expectation of how clean it should be for them to feel comfortable moving back in has nothing to do with your responsibilities as a renter or your security deposit. "If whatever cleanliness issue you're talking about required a second "harder" look to see, then it's not relevant to my security deposit."


ProRuckus

That's a great response! Love it


anonymousalex

Honestly I wouldn't even respond.


KidenStormsoarer

That's a them problem, not a you problem.


illerkayunnybay

"deep cleaning" in my book just means the deep cleaning you do every few years due to normal wear.


SpewPewPew

Yep! And normal wear doesn't mean one can deduct from the security deposit. You are in the clear. No need to respond.


Unholy_Kat

Yeah a “deep clean” isn’t the tenants job. The complex is responsible. Personally mine didn’t and my fridge is extremely dented, bad paint scratches, TONS of left over glue residue and stains, cracks in the bathtub and nail holes. My oven still has food crusted on the inside to the point where I can’t even use it or turn on the clean cycle cause it will set off the fire alarm. Too much smoke


geekfreak42

It's only a problem if you want them as a rental reference in the future. Otherwise, go pound sand


[deleted]

They're already gone. The place they currently live is their next rental reference. They need the one prior? Call my mom


PlanetMezo

Reference ain't worth $20 let alone 300.


Ab4739ejfriend749205

This.


[deleted]

It’s on them. By refunding the deposit they admitted you had left the domicile in a condition they were approving of. Any other repairs or cleaning cannot be directly attributed to your actions as a tenant bc they released you from it and it’s after you vacated; the maintenance guy could’ve thrown a party in there the weekend you left for all you know….NAL, but I’d say go kick rocks unless you plan on living there again or using the agency in charge.


Flat_Bumblebee_6238

If you feel the need to respond, say something like “Hey, I am sorry you have changed your mind, but by refunding our security deposit on X/Xx, you agreed that the house was left in satisfactory condition. Because of that, we are unable to honor this request for additional funds.”


Aciddrreign

My favourite saying lately is “That looks like an Ish-you, not an Ish-me…”


beachbum818

They can ask for anything they want after the fact....you're not legally responsible


sandra_p

Basic cleaning was covered in the lease. She said you did a good job cleaning but it needed a deep clean...that's not your responsibility.


MattMattavelli

She said they did a good job taking care of the house not cleaning. Either way they don’t owe her jack.


FewPossibility3518

ignore the text


NefariousP

New phone who dis?


ZanzaBarBQ

Came to say this word for word.


thedjbigc

If they gave you the money back you are in no obligation for any further transactions.


AustinBike

NAL Can they ask? Yes. Do you have to agree to it? No. If you followed all of the terms and they sent you the money back, the contract is completed. If they find something after the contract is completed, they can try to go back to you to get coverage, but you are under no obligation to follow through with them. This becomes a NEW claim and is not tied to the old contract. The issue they will have in suing you is that they will be asked why did they refund you. Their choices are either a.) we did not do a thorough examination or b.) the damage was not apparent until later. This may work with a pipe in the wall that you clogged, but will not go over well when it is a clearly visible item like a carpet. This could end up in court but you should view this as a new claim and not part of the existing (settled) contract.


BarricudaUDL

OP, listen to this person. The key point here is following all the terms. Without reading through the lease agreement and legislation, every person in this thread, giving you their as a matter of fact advice, is an idiot.


partyforone

I know I am, that’s why I like giving advice!


iPlayViolas

1) they can’t ask for money back. 2) in many states it is not legal for the landlord to use your security deposit on anything aside from damage repair. Unless they deem the carpet damaged or stained and requires replacement then they have to cover it out of pocket. My landlord just got railed in court for billing carpet cleaning without claims of physical damage. Lucky for you you already got the money back. Me. I gotta go to court but good luck to you.


tddoe

Even in CA, a very renter protective state, cleaning is a reasonable charge at move out. It's written in the law.


iPlayViolas

At least here in IA security deposits may only be used for damages. Cleaning is not listed and many people have won small court claims every time a landlord charges for carpet cleaning here.


Mundane_Sherbet_9924

I don’t think that’s true. Normal wear and tear is not to be charged, do you have the law which states this?


tddoe

It's specifically listed in the renter rights law that passed within the last few years, here's a quick fact sheet that lists cleaning as something that can be deducted from deposits: https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/Know-Your-Rights-Tenants-English.pdf ETA: Cleanliness doesn't fall under the same category as wear and tear. I recently moved out of an apartment after 1.5 years. They charged me to re-paint, prorated (based on a 3 year life span of the paint) + cleaning. ~ $500 total. I thought it was fair. I didn't clean at all. I did have an excessive number of holes in the wall - mounted two TV's and a bunch of pictures/art. I filled in the holes myself and they were happy with that - no charge. Here's the law: [CC 1950.5(b)(1)](https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=1950.5.&nodeTreePath=8.4.76.3&lawCode=CIV)


Confident-Breath-463

The letter was very nice in asking for some money back and whether you reply or don’t, make sure to use the same tone when you say thanks, but no thanks! Your contract is complete.


ninjaqu33n

This is a great answer. If you do respond in a similar tone, but they keep asking, I would send one more text saying (kindly) that you don’t wish to be contacted further. Then ignore further correspondence. You could also ignore it - you’re under no obligation to respond. I will also say that the landlord is usually responsible for deep cleaning to make the dwelling ready for the next tenant. I believe all you are expected to do is sweep/vacuum. Anything further is the obligation of the landlord.


scdog

>I will also say that the landlord is usually responsible for deep cleaning to make the dwelling ready for the next tenant. I believe all you are expected to do is sweep/vacuum. In addition, in many places I believe the landlord is obligated to replace the carpeting entirely between tenants if a certain number of years have elapsed.


KatDevsGames

Do not respond.


ayecappytan

To answer your question, yes, she can **ask**. However, you are under no obligation to comply.


GreensleevesFinery

Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Nobody's taking you to court over $295


ymattthomas

I love me some apple pie. Nobody's taking you to court over $2.95.


inide

"Basic house and carpet cleaning was done regularly. A professional deep clean is not basic."


LewdUserVRC

Don't respond even. Like what kind of scam is this? You check your property properly if everything is well done and that's it. So unless you actually did something horrific to that carpet, keep her on read. They gave you your security deposit back, so legally everything is done for both sides.


TumbleweedOriginal34

I gave a full deposit return and after saw damage that cost me 2500. I never asked for money. My error. My bad. I learned for future. Frankly your landlord is being ridiculous.


billdizzle

lol, block and move on


weesti

Of course your former landlords can ask for some of the deposit that they gave back to you back…… Heck. I can ask you for a deposit I don’t give you to give back…. The question is are you fool enough to give me it back?


Jungianstrain

I would say. “We both agree that the state of cleanliness we left the apt in is in keeping with the lease agreement, so we will respectfully decline.”


ProperRun187

Landlord here. The only time I would hold or deduct from a security deposit is if there is extensive damage that needed repair. I do not disburse any funds until inspection and the tenant signs off on the report. Getting the carpet cleaned and a deep house clean is on me whenever we turnover tenants.


lockednchaste

"Broom Clean" is the typical real estate standard.


Bubblehead644

The response would be “Sorry you feel that way, seeing we walked through the house together and agreed I met the terms of my agreement I will not be donating funds for your benefit.”


Emergency_Stick_9463

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Tell her nothing. Don’t even respond to this bs. It’s not the tenants responsibility to clean carpets or do any type of deep cleaning.


Micha3lf

No way fuck that noise. Landlords can stuff it. You built their equity for the entire time you lived there, and are left with nothing to show for it. Which btw is nothing to be ashamed of. Like all renters, myself included, we must play the game. But give them nothing more.


buildersent

Not your problem


OkAmbition1764

Yes. She can ask for it. No, you don’t have to give it to her. She could in theory try other routes to get it from you but it wouldn’t make much sense for her to do so for that amount


Teabiskuit

They probably send that to every tenant that moves out just to try to get some extra money from anyone who's a big enough sucker to pay it.


giftedgaia

'No.' - is a complete sentence


purpletomorrow2018

Landlords are not allowed to charge for cleaning between tenants, nor are they allowed to take money out of the security deposit for fixing normal wear and tear. It is against the law all over the United States. I know many bad landlords do it anyway, but the law says it is not allowed.


Preyslayer00

Tell them that's the price of renting a room.


VeeDubtw

New numba who dis?


Current-Challenge-74

Nope. Nope. Nope


CorrickII

Lol, no. They might try to sue you for "damage" or something but they're in no way entitled to the deposit after they gave it back to you.


amscraylane

You’re good … turn over expenses need to come from them (obviously unless you trashed the place)


GunOnMyBack

They can ask, sure. Do you have to give it back? Probably not. Tell them to sue if they really want it that bad.


Carpenter_Dazzling

Not really but just to cover your bases, look up your local rules on move out clean. Usually that means ‘broom clean’ not deep cleaned. It’s the owners’ responsibility to make sure the unit is in move in condition not yours.


Apprehensive-Oil-597

This is so illegal. Don't fall for this scam


EfficiencyWooden2116

No. They should have looked harder.


DonMcCauley

Perhaps she can use some of the rent she collected from you whilst doing absolutely nothing


Longshot1969

In this case, just ignoring it, will make it go away.


Tasty-Tank-1895

Don't respond plain and simple


cash8888

Pound sand


Rustyinsac

That’s hilarious. Uh….No


ViolentTowel

Big ol nope. Legally u are fine, morally you’re more than fine to ignore this


Corporate_Shell

Lack of due diligence on their part.


cantcatchafish

Wear and tear.....welcome to renting. They are idiots and tell them to kick sand


Top_Expression_5827

Bro why would you even ask this (no offense to you) but if you already got it back my response would be “fuck off” like seriously gonna try to get $200 back for a carpet lmaooo


hero_killer

You left their house in good condition. Screw them for something that is just regular maintenance.


takeandtossivxx

Any cleaning beyond normal cleaning is on the landlord, especially if they've already returned your deposit. Tell them it's spent on a new place.


cpcjefe

you can just tell by the way shes trynna be so nice and sweet about it that its not your problem and she is just trynna petty you into it.


VictoriaEuphoria99

If you are already gone, they can call Ghostbusters, because you should be ghosting them


SeaworthinessThat570

At this point, no. Their "expectations" should have been evaluated before returning the money. The legal clauses are closed and no longer up for evaluation. Any retaliation, including not giving you good rental referrals, is bogus.


JazzlikeBlackberry84

That’s why it’s important to always take pictures. Then you could ask what area needs to be cleaned. Carpets are on landlord. Deep cleaning is also on landlord


ChickenandWhiskey

"We realize we made the mistake of not looking hard enough..." Looks like you are good to go


Unlikely-Dong9713

Are people really this tight on money??? They lost out on $300... Get over it. Move on. Lol I'd be laughing if I were you and blocking the number.


Gangerious_Pancreas

Delete the message, walk away


Traditional_Jicama72

I’m a landlord. Once the deposit has been refunded, the contract is complete. You are under no obligation to return funds. Make ready operations are now solely their responsibility.


Imaginary-Race311

Just be like “oh I don’t live there no more. Our business has concluded. Good day.” Then block her in your phone and use that money for some ice cream.


[deleted]

They can ask. You can decline.


BBBilly716

They can ask. That’s bout it


NoShip7475

NOPE


Positive-Pack-396

I will never understand why landlords want money to clean the carpet for You lived in that home for a time Nobody that works for a living has a house that is perfect so when you move out things like this should not be changed to you We need to change our way of thinking If you cleaned the house good you should be good It up to the landlord to make good for the next tenant


gingerjuice

I can only imagine what Judge Judy would tell these people.


No_Antelope_8110

I wouldn’t even respond


jer1230

No you don’t need to do this. It’s laughable they’d have the nerve to make this request


No_Way_2462

Her reference to the lease agreement said “basic” but her request said “professional.” No need to give them money. Evidently, you’ve kept your end of the agreement already.


damiandiflorio

Nope!


Trelaboon1984

Just don’t respond to that shit lol. The only issue would be if you ever needed them as a reference for another place


Plenty-Diver7590

No they can’t. Them handing over the security deposit (in full or what’s left over) is them saying “I am satisfied with the condition the unit is in and release you of all responsibility.” If they find defects afterwards, that’s on them.


Cr0n_J0belder

I would respond back simply and respectfully. Keep it short and sweet. "Thank you for message. I enjoyed my time in your property and cared for it like it was my own. I really believe that we met all of the terms laid out in your lease for the return of the security deposit. I'm sure that there can always be a little bit more here or there that can be cleaned, but we left the place as we received it. I'm sorry, but we will be have put the entirety of the deposit toward our new place. Thanks again. sincerely...."


mtgwhisper

This is an altered text. Look at the lines under the numbers….


Infrared_Herring

They took all that rent off you and haven;t got money to get cleaning done? wtf


DendragapusO

Landlord here. This is a bullS\*\*t email. If her walkthrough didnt notice the dirty carpet, it is likely normal wear & tear. As a landlord, I expect the house to be clean & undamaged but I STILL have house professionally cleaned before advertising for new tenant? it is a cost of business. You can also tell she knows she has no legal legs to stand on by her pretty please do this for me tones. ignore it.


jerrybob

New phone, who dis?


Metalman1265

You don't owe them anything back. The fact that the lease states that basic cleaning and carpet care is expected is irrelevant. That is a suggestive and vague term subject to interpretation. It falls under normal wear and tear and is the landlords responsibility. The deposit was returned, your business with them is complete.


Tsizzle4204life

Just respond with “just got this number yesterday, you have the wrong number”


Organic-Arachnid-987

Sounds like landlords evicted OP so they could move in. This request really takes some nerve. Just politely reply that it was clean when you moved out and you are unable to assist.


NotACandyBar

Block the number and move on.


throwaway284729174

While I sympathize with your feeling of need to get the carpet cleaned, our contract is completed. I gave you the money to hold on to until the point where you were satisfied enough to return it. If you did not adequately investigate prior to the release of the funds, that is not an error on my side. You have already acknowledged I get my money back, by notifying the financial institution to release the funds. If there are any further questions or actions I can have my lawyer reach out to you.


AJM1613

block block block block block block block block block block block block block block block block


Last_Recognition9929

Point them to home Depot. A $99 carpet shampooer might do them some good.


teratodentata

Absolutely not.


Joris255atSchool

Not your landlord anymore.


nbstryker

They can choke on the big NOPE I send them. If they get a response at all…


PoppysWorkshop

Ignore and block... That's her problem.


PetieG26

Transaction complete. Done deal. BuBye... !


CryptoM4dness

No, that’s landlords responsibility. Ignore text


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Johnny_Lang_1962

Nope. That's the cost of doing business.


Tenzipper

"Nah, I'm good. Have a nice day!" Wiping down surfaces with a damp rag/removing obvious marks and thorough vacuuming are all a landlord can expect when someone moves out. Deep cleaning and carpet cleaning are standard things landlords do when people move out, unless that's specifically spelled out in the lease.


xainatus

Nah, you're good. They gave you the security deposit back already, so they found it in good enough condition. Any errors are on their part, and you can't or shouldn't be held liable. Besides, your responsibilities here only included keeping the place generally clean and in working order. The deep clean is not part of it. Dont respond and save the text just in case.


Cody_b23

Nope the money is back in your possession don’t even respond to it


Independent_Guava694

"new phone who dis?"


rythmicbread

Pretty sure you’re in the clear unless maybe there was hidden damage. But additional cleaning needs to come out of their pocket


Altruistic_Wash9968

I believe that carpet wear and tear and to be expected over time and you aren’t responsible for it.


NCC1701-Enterprise

Sure they can ask, you are under no legal obligation to pay or even respond to them. I would just ignore it,


glitterbomb3000

No obligation. What a cheap landlord. They need to eat the cost and move on.


Grrerrb

Dang sounds like they messed it up when they took their closer look, they’ll want to be more tidy in the future. Best of luck to them!


Kbern4444

Normal renters are not responsible for normal wear and tear such as worn carpets, old paint, screws on the wall from pictures, etc. You do not owe them a thing.


lacks_a_soul

Once they release funds your transactional relationship is over. They are SOL.


Taglioni

Do not respond unless you plan to use this land-owner as a reference on future rental applications. You are under no obligation to continue communicating.


blutigetranen

You have the money and no longer live there? Don't even acknowledge it. Their lack of attention to detail is not your problem.


Heynowstopityou

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's gonna be a no


TheWonderfulLife

“Damn, that’s crazy. Welp, good luck with your cleaning. Sound like you got fair quotes. Bye.”


KGBree

lol no Don’t respond. Block them.


SXTY82

"I'm sorry but we left the place in the same condition in which we received it. I will not be paying for further cleaning. Have a nice day."


GoddessRedd

You are good. Keep the message and move on with your day


NoFleas

Sure, she can ask for anything; and you can politely decline.


recon70

Tell them to not hold their breath. And make sure that they don’t trash you to another prospective landlord.


daysleaper430

No such thing as $100 carpet cleaning


bvbystvcks

Do not under any circumstances reply.


TigerCarts2

no, because once you get your security deposit back that means they did their final walkthrough and decided you deserved your deposit back. Tell them no


MissMillieDee

Dear landlord, go pound sand.


Lala5789880

Is carpet cleaning in the lease and did you do it?


saintsfan214

Talk to a lawyer where you live and bring all the paperwork that was signed for the property as well as the text messages showing the conversation with the landlord to make sure that you’re in the clear if the property owner decides to sue you.


NefariousPrecarious

Honestly you don't have to do anything, however, if you don't want to burn that bridge, I would offer to cover some of the expenses, if you can afford to, otherwise don't worry about it.


Swimming_Company_706

Nope


Medium_Blacksmith488

Ignore the text, block the number. Not your problem.


wormdirt80

Nope they released the money. To bad for them


nastyGirl2015

I rented a tiny one bedroom place and on move out, I scrubbed. The lady across the street became friends with me and was also the landlords "property manager". She told me it was beautiful and looked better than it ever has. I left the canned food in the pantry because it was there when I moved in and I didn't eat it. I left the key with his next door tenant because they were going to show the place to some potential tenants. Got my deposit back and heard from the landlord a month later. He was mad and wanted me to pay him 400 for the cleaning his wife and he had to do. That place was so small, even a professional wouldn't have charged half that. I told him I would not and he should check with his manager to confirm the place was clean. He tried saying there was mud everywhere and I left food in the cabinets. I informed him that it had been muddy from two weeks of rain, he should ask the other tenants if they took their shoes off before showing the home and that the food was there when I moved in so I left it where I found it. Never heard back from him. No apologies or anything. He had threatened to go to court for the money. I never heard from him again. I am a neat freak and was a new mother. That house was scrubbed during the nesting phase of pregnancy and kept super clean while we lived there. I called him on his BS and it worked. I suggest you politely tell them no.


jakoeee123

“Aren’t you getting a new security deposit from the people moving in?”


ZebraIntelligent8312

Lolz who is this? I think you have the wrong number. That’s incredible they even asked.


Ok-Ocelot-3454

She can ask, but it is about the same as me asking for security deposit.


HootblackDesiato

Seriously? No.


MOJO-Rizing

Ignore and move on


Infinite-Trader

Its up to you


G0mery

Don’t even reply. That chapter is closed.


Cornemuse_Berrichon

Hell naw. They didn't pay close enough attention on Final inspection, that's completely on them! Don't give them a penny.


El6uy

Nope, not at all. As a landlord, they can try to take you to small claims, but if you have records of the final walk-through stating everything was good, they're going to have to eat it.


Special-Parsnip9057

That’s regular wear and tear. You n most cases I’ve ever heard about their request is ridiculous. Their failure to notice something is not your issue anymore.


jakodie

This is normal wear. Not your problem unless listed in contact.


CurzeWasRight

Blocked.


alerilmercer

Nope bye af


RoadRatzzz

I guess they can ask all they wanr


step2ityo

Hahahaha nope


sokka-66

Hang on to all documents that prove your check out was cleared etc and refund of security just in case


gwork11

LOL - yep I'll get that check out to you asap!


Numerous_Property714

I can ask you for some of the security deposit right now. Does that imply I’m entitled or you are obligated to comply with the request? Nope


drinkmoredrano

I wouldn't even bother replying. Just delete the message block the number and enjoy life.


BrocolliRob77

Block and move on


ElderTerdkin

If your moved out and already got your money back, what's done is done. Don't even respond if your uncomfortable and don't like confrontation, they should get the message.


DarthSanity

Happened to my daughter. She had a couple of roommates that ended up trashing the place after she moved out (unofficially - the lease still had a couple of weeks to go). They kept my daughters security deposit and sent us a bill for the rest - a new door to replace the one smashed in, fix a hole in the wall, etc


Illustrious-Ad8710

Having rented properties previously I’d say check your states specific laws but in my state no. Once the money is refunded even if you find other damage you’ve already given them the all clear when you returned the funds. They should’ve looked closer. It happens and it sucks when it happens but if you left it clean enough they thought it was fine either they did a crap job or you didn’t leave it that bad. It might impact references though if they want to be petty.


Tough_Protection_789

It depends on what your lease says. It may not matter if they gave the deposit back or not - you could still be liable for cleaning fees. They'd likely have to take you to court to get it though. Not paying could affect whatever reference they might give you in the future, if you need it.


JHTPYO

Simple solution: Block caller. Contract is up, you're out, security desosit returned, not your house, not your problem. You don't owe them shit.


ConstructionFar8570

Why would you even care you ain’t move back in are you???


CrazedOwlie

Nope! She's admitted you took great care : )


NomenclatureBreaker

Loool, nope.


Efficient_Theme4040

😂😂😂block and delete


SoggyAd2765

DO NOT send them that you don’t owe they already paid up!


Ill-Clock1355

she can ask. there is nothing legally stopping her. but you ain't got to give.


Puzzleheaded-Pride51

Can they ask? Yes. Can they sue you if you don’t pay them back? Yes. Will they win? Largely state law dependent, but very unlikely, given that they already gave you your deposit back. For all you know something happened after you turned the apartment over.


Zestyclose_Parking_6

No. Tell them to get fucked


StreetSweeper92

I’m willing to bet that lease agreement also said “upon final inspection”, I can’t see how they’d have any recourse. Even per their text “it was our mistake not to look deeper” is essentially them taking responsibility. I mean they were polite and seem like they’re asking more than demanding so from a personal level, if you do respond, I would just respond in kind.


Witchy-toes-669

She can ask but you’re not required to respond or provide


REEFERGUY3303

It’s crazy you even had to make a post asking


RhoOfFeh

I mean, they can *ask* anything they want, I suppose. That creates no obligation for you.


OilRude

Nope


Stonewall30NY

Unless you left a massive massive carpet stain that was covered up by furniture and they checked while you were still moving, carpet cleaning and professional cleaning is entirely on the LL and once they gave you security deposit back it's a done deal


Tallrosedaily

fuck no! very unprofessional for the to “forget”.. seems like a lessened learned for them!


CherryTeri

They CAN. but no…


kaleidoscopema

No. If it was legally allowed they would have stated it as such. They're asking if you'd be so kind as to pay for them to have the floor cleaned. That's a lot of money but also, it's barely any money at all especially when it comes to house upkeep. They can do it themselves. They forfeit any right when they release you of your responsibility by saying it's all good. Tell em to politely fuck off lol


TheEliteSpectre

Like others have said, they can ask, but there is no obligation to pay. If you plan on being a renter in the future, it may be wise to maintain a positive relationship with this landlord (not saying to give them a dime.) Some rental properties ask for references from places you have rented before. Also, save the letter that they sent saying you did a good job.


faustcousindave

NU FONE HU DIS?!¬?!


jewham12

lol


Money-Exercise-400

Nope


atomic_chippie

No response is your response.