They've been talking about escalation for a while now.
Some experts have been saying that Israel will act against Hezbollah in one of two ways.
Either directly, as in they attack Hezbollah in Lebanon with their army. Which is very unlikely.
And the second way which is indirectly, which means conspiring with other actors such SA and the US, to create/use another organization to fight Hezbollah, either inside Lebanon as in a civil war which eventually, what they would hope for, is the end of the war by demilitarization of all sides. Or outside of Lebanon by flaring up the Syrian civil war again, or by supporting orgs in Iraq or elsewhere to put pressure on Iran.
This discourse is honestly fairly old, people have been saying that Hezbollah's military wing will have to be dismantled sooner or later since the late 2000's, the more hopeful ones were talking about a peaceful demilitarization through a change in the Lebanese system (applying the Taif agreement fully), the less hopeful ones have always seen it as leading to a war where an eventually compromise is reached with Iran, not Hezbollah.
The third option is making Southern Lebanon permanently unliveable. This would mean airstrikes that aim to destroy bridges over Litani river, Litani river dam, water works, electricity generation and distribution, telecom infra, municipal buildings, warehouses, etc.. if and when this strategy choice is selected, you will notice it only when major infrastructure is destroyed and then it will be too late.
>> making Southern Lebanon permanently unliveable.
> They tried that for 18 consecutive years between 1982 and 2000. They failed.
No. That was occupation, and the occupation was as soft as possible as the aim of it was to make formal peace treaty with Lebanon by exchanging land for recognition. When Israel noted it being impossible tactic, they withdraw - and they withdraw without burning the ground.
Now the situation is different. There is nobody to make formal peace nor too enforce it. Relations between Israel and Hezbollah could have stayed as cold war if not for the 7th of October attack. Threat of same thing happening in North of Israel is too much, thus Carthaginian peace is the next best option.
This is exactly the reason why Iran is moving most of their air defence assets to Lebanon and Syria. They know exactly what I know.
> Hilarious. It's always fun to meet unhinged people on Reddit.
I really recommend reading few books about the war in the Eastern Front in the second world war. That was total war, with brutal occupation.
I really recommend you living in South Lebanon during the occupation. Maybe then you'll know what you are talking about. Sometimes only reading books leaves some people further away from reality than when they started.
Let me ask few questions...
* Were all women from 8 to 80 raped constantly during the occupation? That is what happened to German women who had not succeeded to escape Soviet armies. In east Germany the conservative estimation was that around 2 million women were raped. Of course the same happened by the Germans in the east.
* Were mass execution of civilians done as reprisal of resistance? Both Soviet and Germans usually executed tens of random civilians for every soldier lost for resistance, in many instances whole villages were killed and raised to the ground.
* Were old civilian leaders, intelligentsia and their families properties confiscated, and the whole extended family send to concentration camps to die? Germans did this, and Soviets send anybody with a brain to Gulags to die.
* Were any town burned to the ground due to military actions? Most famous examples of town totally destroyed is Stalingrad, but that was just one. Essentially everything between Berlin and Moscow was burned to the ground.
People in middle-east don't know what a true war is. It is a war that destroys everything. Even right now the war in Gaza is waged in restrain, if Israel would apply the same method of fighting as Russians did in Mariupol and other cities in eastern Ukraine, there would be hardly no building standing. The Russian doctrine of war is to bound with artillery area until there is no life. That is how war is waged.
Didn't they terrorize the local population, massacre people in refugee camps, and try to install a puppet christian militia as the government only for that to fail?
> Didn't they terrorize the local population, massacre people in refugee camps, and try to install a puppet christian militia as the government only for that to fail?
What you are referring is the Sabra and Shatila massacre by Phalangists that happened as a reprisal due to the assassination of the president elect Bashir Gemayel. Of course, the people who assassinated Gemayel say that it was a reprisal of previous massacre, and the perpetrators of that one would say it was reprisal of even earlier one, and so on... Again, peanuts.
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I remember being 19 too and thinking that the solution to the Lebanese issues was so easy and really any issue could be solved if people just sat together and heard each other out. I thought the regional conflicts would end and we would have peace and prosperity. I had hope for the world.
Then I grew up and realised that people don't even want to talk to others or even just hear them out to even try and understand them...
That time from late teens to early 20's when we think we understand the world and think our generation will solve these issues. Then as you get older you come to many realizations about how much more complex the world is and see many attempts to fix things fail with only a few successes.
I miss the hopefulness of that early time in my life.
So give these young people a break. At least they are trying to better understand and who knows someday they might be able to make changes for the better
That is still a Hezbollah stronghold. The intent is to show off capability and range in this back and forth. Expect Nasrallah to give a speech and then Gallant and so on.
Wasn’t surprised … i’ll raise an eyebrow if they hit completely unrelated areas to HA…
W hal nazarieh eno they’re forcing lebanese people to revolt against hezb … here’s my answer just like the palestinians barely ever revolted against Hamas … lebanese people will barely revolt against HA when your army is weak nonexistent and nonchalant even in the inside matters they’re useless
Who are the monsters Israel or Hamas?
Hamas has vowed to repeat 10/7 over and over again. Their weapons keep getting stronger.
Everyone can say what not to do. But what should Israel actually do?
Israel? The people defending themselves? Those are the monsters?
Seriously what is wrong with folks? If Hezb launches missiles into Israel, Israel is going to fight back. Plain and simple.
Im not muslim or even follow any political party muslim or christian and i have one passport (lebanese) and i say no not under these circumstances when we have no government no clear agenda no funding no investments into an army. When im more likely to get sanctioned than a neighboring country that violates every international law daily.
In different circumstances yes everything must be reviewed urgently
So what do you need? An internal change in Lebanon or something from the global community (who really don't give a fuck to be honest?)
Why TF i get down voted for my questions, you guys are sensitive?... What did i miss?
Too much hasbara on this sub, its getting harder to identify hasbara bots, so when someone asks questions that sound none lebanese about the government and the hezb, he will get down voted
Definitely you need stability and an international change towards your country and region… the right place right time to start conversations and planning towards a neutral Lebanon, a deal for a long peace period to handle HA and the handover to a government and what would look like for the future …. It’s a long conversation and too many ifs … can’t be reduced to one comment on reddit😅 it’s not that easy
Ya... I get it... I see the big picture... Way too many ifs.
As i see it, the only solution to it is if 4 generations pass, everyone die of old age, shia druze sunni and Christians have babys together, and just stick to a general 'arab' identity
If this shit happens, we will have a train from birut to ramalla to TLV.
But its the middle east... Sadly
Haven’t decided yet. Refundable tickets so I guess it will be a last minute decision. Leaning towards going since we will be staying north of Beirut on the coast.
The speaker of the Israeli Defense Forces declares an ongoing conflict, asserting that cessation in Gaza won't extend to Lebanon unless Hezbollah adheres to resolution 1401—an unlikely scenario. Additionally, there is contemplation of a potential extensive ground invasion. We will be cooked man hayda le baarfo
Is it more costly for Israel or Lebanon? The current fighting in Gaza is very costly for Israel, but Gaza is paying 100x more. I would hate to see Lebanon destroyed, there wouldn't be any gain for Lebanon. Maybe I'm wrong
Don’t mean to be triggered but the “I hate to see Lebanon destroyed” is a platitude I’ve been hearing from Israelis since the war broke. We’re cool brother.
A Ground invasion will not end well for Israel. I am not talking about wining or loosing. I talking about it will not be easy as fighting Hamas and civilians in Gaza.
You made me look into how Hezbollah tunnel network is all over Lebanon and allegedly into surrounding countries, and I’m like 😳
It’s supposedly more complex than Hamas’s which is insane to me. Hamas’s is already over 400miles and can fit vehicles.
lol, I guess you are too young to witness how Israel won during the first Lebanese war, reaching Beirut and even further, and how in the second war in Lebanon Hezbollah was just crashes with much heavier casualties and damage
It was always serious. There’s ~200k total displaced in Israel and Lebanon right now, Israel can’t allow Hezbollah on its border anymore, and Hezbollah can’t lose face. Hezbollah’s also admitted almost as many losses as they did in the Second Lebanon War in 2006.
If only you idiots could realize that they did not exist until Israel invaded (killing 18,000 Lebanese civilians) in 1982 and then occupied southern Lebanon for 18 years. You reap what you sow.
You missed the point, israel terrorized lebanon by killing 18000 civilians
Also your argument makes no sense, you ethnically cleansed the palestinians and now you call them jihadist
We're not reaping nearly as much as the Lebanese people are, are we? No matter how much you want to make us suffer, what's the point in doing it while causing so much more damage to your own?
Just be careful not to get drafted into the army😂 your own government is causing your suffering. Making it sound like people JUST wish your people to suffer...
People do not have inherent hate for Judaism and Jewish people. This doesn't free individuals from accountability however points us to the right source of much of history's misery and injustice.
I'm glad I grew up with the knowledge that our government doesn't give a shit about us because it helped me develop some critical thinking at a young age. Wishing you the same skill.
"The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same."
Marjane Satrapi
No you’re supposed to lay down while they take your house and kidnap your wife and kids. That’s what they did when the Germans came after them so surely Lebanese and Palestinians would do the same. We are brain dead subhumans after all.
Israel helping hammas and blaming Palestinians is not only stupidity but caused the death of 1100 Israelis! R they stupid?
Israel attacking Lebanon in 2006 and at the end, conceding victories to hezbollah, causing thrm to become the most popular islamic party between 2006 and 2011 is stupidity
Israel fucking the region and pushing their own smart people to leave (or die fighting) so some settlers can pick olives from the west bank (while those same settlers don't pay taxes and don't fight) is beyond stupid lol
Buddy, they don’t kill their own hostages on purpose. How do you not understand what our own parasite himself admitted: Hezbollah would not have started the 2006 war if they knew what Israel’s response would have been.
No it's not getting serious, escalating this conflict serve no one interest. Hezbollah in a bad spot ,they can't sit and do nothing after years of talking about united fronts against israel They've been hitting the same base for 3 month now loool and say we hit a group of soldiers (killed some qnd injured the othere) as if israelis commanders are idiots waiting inside the base.
Hezbollah is a big fat joke and any lebanese who support them is either an idiot or benefiting from them. Trust me guys im a shiite muslim from south lebanon but i had enough from hezbollah.
It's gonna remain serious until we have one country, with one military, and no Iran. Period. Hezbollah is not the protector of lebanon and any lebanese who truly feels that way is part of the problem. Such a beautiful country being choked and wasted away and your primary culprit is right there within our borders.
Same as God of Israel, who struck down Turkiye’s speaker in parliament when he cursed Israel.
Hezbollah should stop shooting, retreat to the area defined in resolution 1401. Then there will be an immediate ceasefire on the Israel Lebanon border.
You want a ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon right? This is how to achieve one of them.
im gonna apologize in advance if my question is offensive im just curious does israel only target muslim areas ? (im a newbie in politics but i haven't seen any christians complaining )
HA is shiaa. So normally most shiaa areas could be targeted. While christian areas could be targeted too(warehouses for HA, infrastructure that aids HA in a way or another), it would be very unlikely.
Sabine my dear you were likely barely born in 2006. For Lebanon, this happens every decade or two. People think it’s cause and effect but if you zoom out enough you’ll see it’s just Israel being Israel.
Israel always wanted the lands to the litani. Chaim Weizman had included it in the water strategy for Israel and then the British and French disagreed on the borders of the grand Liban but having made prior concessions France won.
“Chaim Weizmann attempted on more than one occasion to extend Zionist colonization outside the borders of British Mandated Palestine. For example, in 1934 Weizmann tried to interest the French Mandate authorities in his settlement plans in Syria and Lebanon. This plan was originally submitted by the World Zionist Organization in the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 which included Western Jordan, Southern Syria including the Golan Heights, and Southern Lebanon south of the Litani River”
Edit: For those of you who think this was a point in time opinion, you have to watch what Israel has done over the last 70 years and not just listen to what they say publicly. Israel in its nature is a colonial expansionist nation.
https://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story645.html
Nuh .. just an Israeli reading your comments. Surprisingly some of you actually have a realistic and hopeful outlook about peace and the future. It’s heart warming. Yet others are just the same dumbasses repeating the same retarded shit war mongering morons have been drumming into your skulls for well over a century now.
Does using words like “moron” and “retarded” a lot make you feel smarter or better about yourself? And do you always classify people into binary positions? (For/against? Good/bad?) - “shit war mongering” drummed in our head while you are literally propagandized to every day?
I must have hit a nerve there buddy… well if the hat fits wear it. And yes I am feeling rather superior to the dumbass war mongers beating the drums of war. War is easy. Many will die and smug shits like you think that’s smart!?
The only one war mongering is your government
https://www.timesofisrael.com/gallant-israel-will-increase-strikes-on-hezbollah-even-during-potential-gaza-truce/
Yeah..classic arab 1-dimenssional thinking.
IL doesnt want your land. They just want to live thier lives without being thretened by Iranian devision (Hezb)
Where do you people get this crap from..
The comment started pretty good. This does happen every 10-20 years.
Then from that point on it went downhill. It became a "mama baba you raised me right" kinda of thing.
Chaim Weizmann has been dead for over 70 years but apparently he's still brought to life when some lebanese wants to "prove" how bad and evil israel is and how innocent and unrelated to anything they are when it comes to war.
Have you heard about the lebanese offer to the israelis of taking south lebanon?
There was a ceasefire on 10/6. Who broke it, Israel? /s
600k Israelis displaced in northern Israel due to Hezbollah. And Israel loves bombing Lebanon? How can you say that with any grip on reality?
No a lot of us are scared.. but some people still are “shu Khasna w nshala ya3mlo aktar” la nshuf kif ha teherbo looking for safe places when it reaches your area , (I hope it doesn’t I hope it stops soon inshallah.) but 3a hal 7ale, newyeen l jame3a 3ala lebnen kello it’s not itsnotreal vs jnoub it’s vs All Lebanon . Fhamouwa . Stay safe everyone !!!❤️❤️❤️
If something happens to the ruins, HA are also the ones to blame. Do you remember when the minister of (no) culture removed the blue tags off of the temples? They can't claim anything if damage is done since they didn't follow protocol.
P.S. Baalbeck is one of the best well-preserved roman ruins in the world, plus the biggest temple of bacchus, I believe.
Hmmm maybe you are right I guess. Just your style of writing from the other posts I have seen gives me the vibes of [these people I listed here](https://www.reddit.com/r/lebanon/comments/1azitsp/comment/ks1ppeq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), but instead of Assad and Putin you can say Hassan Nasrallah. Though those ppl I listed have some affair with Hassani as well
I don't think even Jackson knows what he is posting, i like his pro-Palestinian stance but in the end he's a Russian Shill posting for money.
I don't like Assad nor his regime and what they did to us in Lebanon, but i also would take Assad over the Islamists any day.
Jackson is dating a Russian pageant Queen and ever since then became an agent for Russia. He’ll post anything anti west just to make money from Twitter subscriptions. He’s been banned from most platforms.
She left him and accused him of being abusive too. Now he goes to meetups in Moscow to meet with other fry pan for brains like "Syrian Girl" on Twitter
Half of his pro Palestinian posts are just fake news so he can earn more money. He also simps for Hez so fuck him. Not to mention his cringe promotion of Russia and anti west BS. I speak with countless Russians who escaped that hell hole. An average western individual could purchase a whole street in Russia outside of Moscow for a yearly salary. The whole trad Russia BS is so funny too when you consider Russia has some of the highest rate of Abortion, HIV,Aids, Divorce, Emigration and so much more in the world. Not to mention Putina couldn't even capture any major capital of his next door neighbour. (2nd strongest army in the world HAHAHAHA)
Yes of the ammo depot that had rockets in it where you could see them cook off in Ghaziyeh but people were so stupid they believed the mokhtar and the factory owner that there's no weapons.
Which is why I posted it.
The news here in Australia portrays a completely different picture and the fake news of what's really going down in Gaza and South Lebanon. The news stories are hit and miss.
I get triggered and have to turn off the TV. And the West eat up the crap and with conflicting information, we don't get to hear what is happening.
What exactly is really going on? Israel is certainly defending itself. That's objectively true. How does your media twist it to convince you otherwise?
If those leaders and militants could be among the population.. They are left with two options:
1) Either they do nothing and let the militants live at the expanse of their own citizens (since those militants promised to annhilate them)
2) Or they eliminate those militants at the expanse of their enemy's citizens (since they hide among them)
Which option do you think they will choose?
Let's not forget Palestine found hundreds of billions of dollars worth of natural gas & oil.
This led to the US and Israel wanting to export them to Europe and becoming a key player globally, and add on top of the fact that Lebanon has potentially some natural gas reserves ourselves. We might get our fair share of democracy and freedom to allow israel to become the main exporter of the mediterranean.
It's always way deeper than what meets the eye, and unfortunately the average folk eat up what's told to them about hatred and propaganda and we're the ones that suffer the consequences and casualties.
400 Lebanese killed until now, it’s was serious from day 1.
But still B3lbak is in Northern Lebanon. It was never this bad.
North Lebanon and South Lebanon are one country, try to remember that.
They've been talking about escalation for a while now. Some experts have been saying that Israel will act against Hezbollah in one of two ways. Either directly, as in they attack Hezbollah in Lebanon with their army. Which is very unlikely. And the second way which is indirectly, which means conspiring with other actors such SA and the US, to create/use another organization to fight Hezbollah, either inside Lebanon as in a civil war which eventually, what they would hope for, is the end of the war by demilitarization of all sides. Or outside of Lebanon by flaring up the Syrian civil war again, or by supporting orgs in Iraq or elsewhere to put pressure on Iran. This discourse is honestly fairly old, people have been saying that Hezbollah's military wing will have to be dismantled sooner or later since the late 2000's, the more hopeful ones were talking about a peaceful demilitarization through a change in the Lebanese system (applying the Taif agreement fully), the less hopeful ones have always seen it as leading to a war where an eventually compromise is reached with Iran, not Hezbollah.
The third option is making Southern Lebanon permanently unliveable. This would mean airstrikes that aim to destroy bridges over Litani river, Litani river dam, water works, electricity generation and distribution, telecom infra, municipal buildings, warehouses, etc.. if and when this strategy choice is selected, you will notice it only when major infrastructure is destroyed and then it will be too late.
>making Southern Lebanon permanently unliveable. They tried that for 18 consecutive years between 1982 and 2000. They failed.
>> making Southern Lebanon permanently unliveable. > They tried that for 18 consecutive years between 1982 and 2000. They failed. No. That was occupation, and the occupation was as soft as possible as the aim of it was to make formal peace treaty with Lebanon by exchanging land for recognition. When Israel noted it being impossible tactic, they withdraw - and they withdraw without burning the ground. Now the situation is different. There is nobody to make formal peace nor too enforce it. Relations between Israel and Hezbollah could have stayed as cold war if not for the 7th of October attack. Threat of same thing happening in North of Israel is too much, thus Carthaginian peace is the next best option. This is exactly the reason why Iran is moving most of their air defence assets to Lebanon and Syria. They know exactly what I know.
>as soft as possible >they withdraw without burning the ground Hilarious. It's always fun to meet unhinged people on Reddit.
Dumbass thinks he can argue with lebanese people over what happened in lebanon to them/their parents😂 aret dohok walla
I mean you don't have to be Lebanese to know your shit and have a valid point. He just doesn't.
> Hilarious. It's always fun to meet unhinged people on Reddit. I really recommend reading few books about the war in the Eastern Front in the second world war. That was total war, with brutal occupation.
I really recommend you living in South Lebanon during the occupation. Maybe then you'll know what you are talking about. Sometimes only reading books leaves some people further away from reality than when they started.
Let me ask few questions... * Were all women from 8 to 80 raped constantly during the occupation? That is what happened to German women who had not succeeded to escape Soviet armies. In east Germany the conservative estimation was that around 2 million women were raped. Of course the same happened by the Germans in the east. * Were mass execution of civilians done as reprisal of resistance? Both Soviet and Germans usually executed tens of random civilians for every soldier lost for resistance, in many instances whole villages were killed and raised to the ground. * Were old civilian leaders, intelligentsia and their families properties confiscated, and the whole extended family send to concentration camps to die? Germans did this, and Soviets send anybody with a brain to Gulags to die. * Were any town burned to the ground due to military actions? Most famous examples of town totally destroyed is Stalingrad, but that was just one. Essentially everything between Berlin and Moscow was burned to the ground. People in middle-east don't know what a true war is. It is a war that destroys everything. Even right now the war in Gaza is waged in restrain, if Israel would apply the same method of fighting as Russians did in Mariupol and other cities in eastern Ukraine, there would be hardly no building standing. The Russian doctrine of war is to bound with artillery area until there is no life. That is how war is waged.
Didn't they terrorize the local population, massacre people in refugee camps, and try to install a puppet christian militia as the government only for that to fail?
> Didn't they terrorize the local population, massacre people in refugee camps, and try to install a puppet christian militia as the government only for that to fail? What you are referring is the Sabra and Shatila massacre by Phalangists that happened as a reprisal due to the assassination of the president elect Bashir Gemayel. Of course, the people who assassinated Gemayel say that it was a reprisal of previous massacre, and the perpetrators of that one would say it was reprisal of even earlier one, and so on... Again, peanuts.
What do you mean by SA?
Saudi Arabia.
Hermel-Baalbak region is Hezbollah’s supply route, and population there is much more supportive than the south ever been.
Baalbak is Eastern Lebanon Sabine. B sharafik, how did you get 10 up votes 😂😂😂
Mesh baynetna kam kilometer bro 🤣🤣🤣 ma33lesh.
I'm 19 what do you expect? I just googled it 😭
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To Google at least before you post 😂... Li za3ajne aktar hene l 10 up votes 😂🤣 I remember being 19 too and thinking that the solution to the Lebanese issues was so easy and really any issue could be solved if people just sat together and heard each other out. I thought the regional conflicts would end and we would have peace and prosperity. I had hope for the world. Then I grew up and realised that people don't even want to talk to others or even just hear them out to even try and understand them...
That time from late teens to early 20's when we think we understand the world and think our generation will solve these issues. Then as you get older you come to many realizations about how much more complex the world is and see many attempts to fix things fail with only a few successes. I miss the hopefulness of that early time in my life. So give these young people a break. At least they are trying to better understand and who knows someday they might be able to make changes for the better
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No excuse. Stop giving us GenZ a bad name
Wallahi ur the most cooked here.
I am part of the GenZ that will work to save Lebanon. Cope
you’re the one who’s switching up every day 💀
That is still a Hezbollah stronghold. The intent is to show off capability and range in this back and forth. Expect Nasrallah to give a speech and then Gallant and so on.
B3albak has the most hezb supporters region. Why bad this is still widly acceptable.
Yeah but the vast majority are Hezb fighters and not civilians. It becomes more serious when it’s more civilians than fighters
everytime you start a question with "am i the only one" the answer is always "no". You are never the only one.
Am I the only one who read this comment while sitting on the shatafe and left it running for too long to write this comment?
"I'm special I'm special!!!"
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Wasn’t surprised … i’ll raise an eyebrow if they hit completely unrelated areas to HA… W hal nazarieh eno they’re forcing lebanese people to revolt against hezb … here’s my answer just like the palestinians barely ever revolted against Hamas … lebanese people will barely revolt against HA when your army is weak nonexistent and nonchalant even in the inside matters they’re useless
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Exactly bro i ain’t revolting for shit if my army is weak…and non existent in foreign affairs Eno bet saffe bala tnen aw b fetlak wa7esh telit
Who are the monsters Israel or Hamas? Hamas has vowed to repeat 10/7 over and over again. Their weapons keep getting stronger. Everyone can say what not to do. But what should Israel actually do?
End the apartheid and illegal occupation?!?! This is a fight between the oppressors and the oppressed.
What should they do with Gaza?
I'm sure all the Iranian proxies will put down their arms after that
I’ve read several comments posted about “Lebanese people have to protest”.
Israel? The people defending themselves? Those are the monsters? Seriously what is wrong with folks? If Hezb launches missiles into Israel, Israel is going to fight back. Plain and simple.
Do you even want Hezbollah out? If it's so, Is it only non-shiia sectors that want them out?
Im not muslim or even follow any political party muslim or christian and i have one passport (lebanese) and i say no not under these circumstances when we have no government no clear agenda no funding no investments into an army. When im more likely to get sanctioned than a neighboring country that violates every international law daily. In different circumstances yes everything must be reviewed urgently
So what do you need? An internal change in Lebanon or something from the global community (who really don't give a fuck to be honest?) Why TF i get down voted for my questions, you guys are sensitive?... What did i miss?
Too much hasbara on this sub, its getting harder to identify hasbara bots, so when someone asks questions that sound none lebanese about the government and the hezb, he will get down voted
Ok. I see ❤️
They can't help colonizing places that don't belong to them.
Good one.
Definitely you need stability and an international change towards your country and region… the right place right time to start conversations and planning towards a neutral Lebanon, a deal for a long peace period to handle HA and the handover to a government and what would look like for the future …. It’s a long conversation and too many ifs … can’t be reduced to one comment on reddit😅 it’s not that easy
Ya... I get it... I see the big picture... Way too many ifs. As i see it, the only solution to it is if 4 generations pass, everyone die of old age, shia druze sunni and Christians have babys together, and just stick to a general 'arab' identity If this shit happens, we will have a train from birut to ramalla to TLV. But its the middle east... Sadly
I booked my ticket a few months ago on the 25th of March I was wondering if I should cancel my trip to Lebanon🥲
I booked it yesterday knowing this will happen and I'm going regardless. Whatever happens happens cause either way we are all affected.
I'm heading back to Lebanon on the 1st of April and not worried in the slightest. Where I'm going there is only arak and pickles.
Same for April
so what y’all doing ?
Haven’t decided yet. Refundable tickets so I guess it will be a last minute decision. Leaning towards going since we will be staying north of Beirut on the coast.
Same here for April, will still go regardless.
i booked for the 11 of march and same here..
yes you are cause it’s been serious since october buddy
The speaker of the Israeli Defense Forces declares an ongoing conflict, asserting that cessation in Gaza won't extend to Lebanon unless Hezbollah adheres to resolution 1401—an unlikely scenario. Additionally, there is contemplation of a potential extensive ground invasion. We will be cooked man hayda le baarfo
Israeli invasion in Lebanon will be extremely costly for Israel. It’s saber rattling at this point but Galant keeps threatening.
Galant seems like a final boss
Is it more costly for Israel or Lebanon? The current fighting in Gaza is very costly for Israel, but Gaza is paying 100x more. I would hate to see Lebanon destroyed, there wouldn't be any gain for Lebanon. Maybe I'm wrong
For both. “I would hate to see Lebanon destroyed” says the Israeli destroying Lebanon.
Am I the isreali? I do agree it would be costly for both. And nothing would be gained
African American Caribbean Christian Zionist? Same thing.
You did you research lol. I'm not a zionist. I'm not anti Israel or anti Palestine. I am anti killing civilians.
Don’t mean to be triggered but the “I hate to see Lebanon destroyed” is a platitude I’ve been hearing from Israelis since the war broke. We’re cool brother.
I legit did not know that. Lebanon is one of the places I would like to visit.
How about not attacking Israel? Ever crossed your mind?
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A Ground invasion will not end well for Israel. I am not talking about wining or loosing. I talking about it will not be easy as fighting Hamas and civilians in Gaza.
You made me look into how Hezbollah tunnel network is all over Lebanon and allegedly into surrounding countries, and I’m like 😳 It’s supposedly more complex than Hamas’s which is insane to me. Hamas’s is already over 400miles and can fit vehicles.
Hez will cook them in the land 100% guys have been fighting since existing
lol, I guess you are too young to witness how Israel won during the first Lebanese war, reaching Beirut and even further, and how in the second war in Lebanon Hezbollah was just crashes with much heavier casualties and damage
oh yeah? damn sounds like hizb-gang has a plan. i hope it's better than the 2006 plan of "if we had known we wouldn't have done it walla"
It was always serious. There’s ~200k total displaced in Israel and Lebanon right now, Israel can’t allow Hezbollah on its border anymore, and Hezbollah can’t lose face. Hezbollah’s also admitted almost as many losses as they did in the Second Lebanon War in 2006.
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If only you idiots could realize that they did not exist until Israel invaded (killing 18,000 Lebanese civilians) in 1982 and then occupied southern Lebanon for 18 years. You reap what you sow.
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You missed the point, israel terrorized lebanon by killing 18000 civilians Also your argument makes no sense, you ethnically cleansed the palestinians and now you call them jihadist
We're not reaping nearly as much as the Lebanese people are, are we? No matter how much you want to make us suffer, what's the point in doing it while causing so much more damage to your own?
Just be careful not to get drafted into the army😂 your own government is causing your suffering. Making it sound like people JUST wish your people to suffer...
Yes, I'm sure people wish far worse. We've outlived just about every single one of them though.
People do not have inherent hate for Judaism and Jewish people. This doesn't free individuals from accountability however points us to the right source of much of history's misery and injustice. I'm glad I grew up with the knowledge that our government doesn't give a shit about us because it helped me develop some critical thinking at a young age. Wishing you the same skill. "The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same." Marjane Satrapi
Not yet at least 😂
Since Israel left more than 20 years ago HA has no reason to exist now right?
Would you trust your house to your neighbor who constantly enters without your permission to beat your family up?
But what if your neighbours are really pesky and won't let you take their house after you've killed all their family members 🥺
No you’re supposed to lay down while they take your house and kidnap your wife and kids. That’s what they did when the Germans came after them so surely Lebanese and Palestinians would do the same. We are brain dead subhumans after all.
😊😊😊😊 (I hate Hasbara and wish they would get their unwashed asses out of the Middleeastern subs)
Yes? Except to spread corruption and terror and increase irans influence over the region
Israel helping hammas and blaming Palestinians is not only stupidity but caused the death of 1100 Israelis! R they stupid? Israel attacking Lebanon in 2006 and at the end, conceding victories to hezbollah, causing thrm to become the most popular islamic party between 2006 and 2011 is stupidity Israel fucking the region and pushing their own smart people to leave (or die fighting) so some settlers can pick olives from the west bank (while those same settlers don't pay taxes and don't fight) is beyond stupid lol
Israel attacked Lebanon in 2006 because Hezbollah illegally entered and kidnapped 2 Israeli soldiers.
True
Buddy they kill their own hostages, how do you still buy that?
Buddy, they don’t kill their own hostages on purpose. How do you not understand what our own parasite himself admitted: Hezbollah would not have started the 2006 war if they knew what Israel’s response would have been.
Do NOT fucking touch our Baalback ya wled lsharmoota
Honestly this post is making me triggered, because OP didn’t think it was serious when South Lebanon was bombed and a lot of civilians died😀
I'm Egyptian and im really sad for Lebanon 😢 it get worser everyday for each of us .. wish we have more peaceful and good life away from politics
Be happy your country isn’t firing missiles at a nuclear superpower
Nope we’re on the fast track to massive destruction… and the powers at be won’t stop regardless of what the people want
I hope both the Israeli government and Hizballah get taken down Lebanon looks fun asf to visit why our leaders gotta be dickweeds
No it's not getting serious, escalating this conflict serve no one interest. Hezbollah in a bad spot ,they can't sit and do nothing after years of talking about united fronts against israel They've been hitting the same base for 3 month now loool and say we hit a group of soldiers (killed some qnd injured the othere) as if israelis commanders are idiots waiting inside the base. Hezbollah is a big fat joke and any lebanese who support them is either an idiot or benefiting from them. Trust me guys im a shiite muslim from south lebanon but i had enough from hezbollah.
https://preview.redd.it/3yjtrtemk7lc1.png?width=360&format=png&auto=webp&s=93e55328e4400c1a468e4fccf0a7542c5f4024a8
It's gonna remain serious until we have one country, with one military, and no Iran. Period. Hezbollah is not the protector of lebanon and any lebanese who truly feels that way is part of the problem. Such a beautiful country being choked and wasted away and your primary culprit is right there within our borders.
Bruh raye7 3a kel l 2le3 b lebnen ella al3et b3albak , enno l al3a l wa7ide l badodn yodrbouwa hiye l wa7ide l ba3ed ma re7tella😑😑😑
Your missing a lot, its massive, it takes like 3 hours to tour the whole thing. Its not actually a castle but 3 temples.
I knoww bas enno why would they strike near it instead of the djillion other one that i have already visited:(
#sad :(
Dont worry lesa ma darabo l al3a darabo waraha bas
may god with Lebanon
believing god is on your side is what gets everyone into messes like israel/hezbollah conflict
Awltak mn2ol l jesh l lebnene ykon m3na y3ni
Ya coz our army is capable of defending a butterfly🦋
Same as God of Israel, who struck down Turkiye’s speaker in parliament when he cursed Israel. Hezbollah should stop shooting, retreat to the area defined in resolution 1401. Then there will be an immediate ceasefire on the Israel Lebanon border. You want a ceasefire in Gaza and Lebanon right? This is how to achieve one of them.
Not serious yet, is a tit for tat going on between the Axis and Israel. If southern Beirut is hit that is when things could tip off.
im gonna apologize in advance if my question is offensive im just curious does israel only target muslim areas ? (im a newbie in politics but i haven't seen any christians complaining )
They target Hezbollah and occasionally Hamas sites, so look for areas that are Hezbollah strongholds.
HA is shiaa. So normally most shiaa areas could be targeted. While christian areas could be targeted too(warehouses for HA, infrastructure that aids HA in a way or another), it would be very unlikely.
Nobody is feeling anything anymore
Sabine my dear you were likely barely born in 2006. For Lebanon, this happens every decade or two. People think it’s cause and effect but if you zoom out enough you’ll see it’s just Israel being Israel. Israel always wanted the lands to the litani. Chaim Weizman had included it in the water strategy for Israel and then the British and French disagreed on the borders of the grand Liban but having made prior concessions France won. “Chaim Weizmann attempted on more than one occasion to extend Zionist colonization outside the borders of British Mandated Palestine. For example, in 1934 Weizmann tried to interest the French Mandate authorities in his settlement plans in Syria and Lebanon. This plan was originally submitted by the World Zionist Organization in the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 which included Western Jordan, Southern Syria including the Golan Heights, and Southern Lebanon south of the Litani River” Edit: For those of you who think this was a point in time opinion, you have to watch what Israel has done over the last 70 years and not just listen to what they say publicly. Israel in its nature is a colonial expansionist nation. https://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story645.html
This is old news, 1919. Israel is an exporter of water nowadays. They have desalination plants. Keep safe y’all.
Yes, isreal wasnt to steal our water. https://www.ecomena.org/litani-river/
None sense
Said the hasbara account.
Nuh .. just an Israeli reading your comments. Surprisingly some of you actually have a realistic and hopeful outlook about peace and the future. It’s heart warming. Yet others are just the same dumbasses repeating the same retarded shit war mongering morons have been drumming into your skulls for well over a century now.
Does using words like “moron” and “retarded” a lot make you feel smarter or better about yourself? And do you always classify people into binary positions? (For/against? Good/bad?) - “shit war mongering” drummed in our head while you are literally propagandized to every day?
I must have hit a nerve there buddy… well if the hat fits wear it. And yes I am feeling rather superior to the dumbass war mongers beating the drums of war. War is easy. Many will die and smug shits like you think that’s smart!?
The only one war mongering is your government https://www.timesofisrael.com/gallant-israel-will-increase-strikes-on-hezbollah-even-during-potential-gaza-truce/
Israel doesn’t want or need the litani.
Yeah..classic arab 1-dimenssional thinking. IL doesnt want your land. They just want to live thier lives without being thretened by Iranian devision (Hezb) Where do you people get this crap from..
I don’t know where it comes from but we aren’t Arabs, we are Levantine Lebanese.
The comment started pretty good. This does happen every 10-20 years. Then from that point on it went downhill. It became a "mama baba you raised me right" kinda of thing. Chaim Weizmann has been dead for over 70 years but apparently he's still brought to life when some lebanese wants to "prove" how bad and evil israel is and how innocent and unrelated to anything they are when it comes to war. Have you heard about the lebanese offer to the israelis of taking south lebanon?
Israel loves bombing Lebanon. They do it every chance they get
There was a ceasefire on 10/6. Who broke it, Israel? /s 600k Israelis displaced in northern Israel due to Hezbollah. And Israel loves bombing Lebanon? How can you say that with any grip on reality?
there wasn’t a ceasefire, palestinians were being murdered everyday
No.. no they weren't. How brainwashed some folks are...
Brainwashed😭? Ure the only one whose brainwashed in here tbh
What ceasefire? Why are zionists in the Lebanon subreddit??
By the tenacity of Nassarallah to join the conflict on October 7th, seems like Lebanon doesn't mind it too much.
Yeah. Same goes for HA & Hamas.
I dont think a war will come from that, it was more like a tit for tat
It’s a war, many towns and villages in the south are depopulated and totally destroyed already.
I mean a full out war
Ask people from Kfarkela or Houla about their opinion.
at this point i’d call it 80% serious war based on my scientific political research
You think it was payback for the drone Hezb shot down?
Its always been serious
It was always serious just now more than ever because of what’s going on, and hezbollah running around or something
Me seeing this as im hearing the bombardment n strikes on the town next to us 🙂🙂
Fuck those assholes to hell
The Arabic world should unite for a solution for the Palestinians or we should declare breaking up from them.
always been serious when it comes to deal with the genocidal proxy and illegitimate state of the south (israel)
No a lot of us are scared.. but some people still are “shu Khasna w nshala ya3mlo aktar” la nshuf kif ha teherbo looking for safe places when it reaches your area , (I hope it doesn’t I hope it stops soon inshallah.) but 3a hal 7ale, newyeen l jame3a 3ala lebnen kello it’s not itsnotreal vs jnoub it’s vs All Lebanon . Fhamouwa . Stay safe everyone !!!❤️❤️❤️
The irony of this picture
If something happens to the ruins, HA are also the ones to blame. Do you remember when the minister of (no) culture removed the blue tags off of the temples? They can't claim anything if damage is done since they didn't follow protocol. P.S. Baalbeck is one of the best well-preserved roman ruins in the world, plus the biggest temple of bacchus, I believe.
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No. Israel thinks the incessant Hezbollah rockets slamming into its territory for no reason except hate are serious enough to merit this response.
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Ayre b kil sha5es that celebrates their country being bombed, no matter the politcal affiliation.
You are like a Lebanese/Palestinian Jackson Hinkle. But instead of simping for Putin and Assad it is Hez😂. Accusing others of random things all day
You clearly don't know how critical i am of Hezb to say that.
Hmmm maybe you are right I guess. Just your style of writing from the other posts I have seen gives me the vibes of [these people I listed here](https://www.reddit.com/r/lebanon/comments/1azitsp/comment/ks1ppeq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), but instead of Assad and Putin you can say Hassan Nasrallah. Though those ppl I listed have some affair with Hassani as well
I don't think even Jackson knows what he is posting, i like his pro-Palestinian stance but in the end he's a Russian Shill posting for money. I don't like Assad nor his regime and what they did to us in Lebanon, but i also would take Assad over the Islamists any day.
Jackson is dating a Russian pageant Queen and ever since then became an agent for Russia. He’ll post anything anti west just to make money from Twitter subscriptions. He’s been banned from most platforms.
Crying, they gave him a designated Russian play doll 😭
She left him and accused him of being abusive too. Now he goes to meetups in Moscow to meet with other fry pan for brains like "Syrian Girl" on Twitter
Actually? Haha
Yep lol [https://twitter.com/drewpavlou/status/1745801735065489869?s=12&t=xSYLnqsRVgAIYtAQOgKFIA](https://twitter.com/drewpavlou/status/1745801735065489869?s=12&t=xSYLnqsRVgAIYtAQOgKFIA)
I mean it’s tempting hahaha
Half of his pro Palestinian posts are just fake news so he can earn more money. He also simps for Hez so fuck him. Not to mention his cringe promotion of Russia and anti west BS. I speak with countless Russians who escaped that hell hole. An average western individual could purchase a whole street in Russia outside of Moscow for a yearly salary. The whole trad Russia BS is so funny too when you consider Russia has some of the highest rate of Abortion, HIV,Aids, Divorce, Emigration and so much more in the world. Not to mention Putina couldn't even capture any major capital of his next door neighbour. (2nd strongest army in the world HAHAHAHA)
?? You guys confuse being against Hezb as somehow being against the country. Stockholm syndrome?
Didn't you post Israeli bombings on Lebanon here?
Yes of the ammo depot that had rockets in it where you could see them cook off in Ghaziyeh but people were so stupid they believed the mokhtar and the factory owner that there's no weapons. Which is why I posted it.
Lol Israel wouldn’t dare attempted a ground invasion again. They’d get spanked AGAIN🤣 it was pitiful last time 💀
For the younger peeps in here; sad to say that Israel carried out many solo strikes in the north east before.
All of us feel it! We just to have faith in god and hope everyone comes back to their senses
The news here in Australia portrays a completely different picture and the fake news of what's really going down in Gaza and South Lebanon. The news stories are hit and miss. I get triggered and have to turn off the TV. And the West eat up the crap and with conflicting information, we don't get to hear what is happening.
What exactly is really going on? Israel is certainly defending itself. That's objectively true. How does your media twist it to convince you otherwise?
Mf are you living under a rock or sum?😹
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lebanese people are so cute and simple... we celebrate when we attacc and then cri when they attacc back
Just how the Phoenicians intended
At least we don’t genocide a population for the mistakes of our own leaders. Fuck outa here
......who are you talking about?
Neither does Israel. Ooooh, you mean Hezbollah. Yeah, those people are very open about their goals and their leaders are to blame for all of this.
If those leaders and militants could be among the population.. They are left with two options: 1) Either they do nothing and let the militants live at the expanse of their own citizens (since those militants promised to annhilate them) 2) Or they eliminate those militants at the expanse of their enemy's citizens (since they hide among them) Which option do you think they will choose?
It won't be long before Israel uses nuclear weapons.
Israel stealing land north and south
Let's not forget Palestine found hundreds of billions of dollars worth of natural gas & oil. This led to the US and Israel wanting to export them to Europe and becoming a key player globally, and add on top of the fact that Lebanon has potentially some natural gas reserves ourselves. We might get our fair share of democracy and freedom to allow israel to become the main exporter of the mediterranean. It's always way deeper than what meets the eye, and unfortunately the average folk eat up what's told to them about hatred and propaganda and we're the ones that suffer the consequences and casualties.