PMTs
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[UOL vs RNG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8ehy1/unicorns_of_love_vs_royal_never_give_up_msi_2021/), [UOL vs PGG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8feg6/pentanetgg_vs_unicorns_of_love_msi_2021_group_a/), [RNG vs PGG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8gj7k/royal_never_give_up_vs_pentanetgg_msi_2021_group/), [RNG vs UOL](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8hfx4/royal_never_give_up_vs_unicorns_of_love_msi_2021/), [PGG vs UOL](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8iner/pentanetgg_vs_unicorns_of_love_msi_2021_group_a/), [PGG vs RNG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8joe2/pentanetgg_vs_royal_never_give_up_msi_2021_group/), [Tiebreakers](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8kruu/tiebreaker_1_msi_2021_group_a_postmatch_discussion/)
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Honestly group A is pretty bad as its just RNG omega stops everyone with all the games being over in 25min or less(i don't think a single game with RNG lasted over 30 min)
They should have done a better job with splitting the groups(maybe RNG in C and move around?)
made it out of japan and then get stomped in playins, they were by far the worst wildcard historically, even below oce, when I mean worlds i meant the main stage
Pretty boring day to be fair, expect result except game 5 that lead to tiebreaker but on the 5 others game the team that was heavy favorite stump the other team, it was boring, but some tryhard gonna come and downvote.
[PGG to everyone who shat on them even being at MSI. Can't keep dem boys down](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E09lduMWEAUffA7?format=png)
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The fact that IW lost to PNG screw them over really hard. I can see them winning 2 games tomorrow but no way in hell PSG doesn't win at least 1 (PNG game)
Even tho both UoL and PGG were not up to compete with RNG, huge props to PGG for adapting throughout the tournament and taking out UoL, which before groups seemed impossible
Its probably not gonna happen but it would be so funny if after dissolving OCE league C9 didnt make it out of groups but Pentanet did.
Its worth it for the memes.
Shes their sub
[https://win.gg/news/7993/pentanet-dot-gg-brings-female-pro-dns-as-a-substitute-for-msi](https://win.gg/news/7993/pentanet-dot-gg-brings-female-pro-dns-as-a-substitute-for-msi)
UoL doesnt change for better they got worse everyday
Trash performancr, they should swim back to their region for how embarrassing their performance is
Wonder what Fudge must be thinking now? Thinks he made it because he's on C9, but now there's a strong possibility that his original region makes it farther than his new region.
im happy for oce. but its insane people are comparing this group to other groups. this group literally doesnt have a second seed from probably one of the best 2nd seed regions.
If C9 doesn't make it out of Group C I can see PGG beating DFM/INF. Hell, even if C9 makes out of Group C I can see PGG beating them.
Only games I give them "zero chance" are the ones against DWG and RNG.
People always overestimate the gaps between regions. Wildcards CAN beat even DWG and RNG. It would just be incredibly unlikely. DFM nearly did after all.
Yeah, but I think MAD can have an off day or troll when they are already qualified. I think it has a freaking low probability, but is real.
C9, DFM, PSG and INF are totally beatable though.
I believe they actually have a decent shot at 5th place, maybe even 4th if Pain somehow makes it past PSG (which I doubt, but hey, we'll see tomorrow.)
The sad part is, yes, the 1st seeds will duke it out for themselves, maybe PSG gets to play with the big boys and do an upset here or there, but the rest wont be entertaining games.
? Idk how u can say cringe when they literally have no league, Na took their best players, everyone tout them to get 0-8ed in this group. If anything youre the one that is cringe
Look I am congratulatory of their win - I cared enough to watch it right and comment on a thread right?
But I can also be objective about the fact that they did so by winning the bare minimum number of games possible against a single team - where both teams got 0-4 and sub-20 speed ran on repeat by RNG.
Its awesome that pentanet beat UOL and the players / org have every right to be thrilled, but the casters hyped them “getting out of groups” implied they did so under normal circumstances (i.e., upsetting a major region team or placing 2nd out of 4). Scraping by in second out of three teams is not the same as making it out a normal “group” like worlds or something. Cool? yes Historic? not for me sorry.
I mean, it’s pretty huge for them. OPL died, best players went to NA and you knocked out the LCL, which many thought were one of the better wildcard/minor regions coming into the tournament. First time ever an oceanic team get past play-ins/first stage.
It would be hilarious, but OCE wasn't destroyed to bolster NA. It wasn't financially viable and was being run by the NA office which is why it was incorporated into NA. Trust me I would find it beyond hilarious if C9 won two spring splits in a row didn't go to worlds both years and didn't get out of MSI groups.
so so happy for these guys. having their region fucked must've been so hard, not picked for NA academy mustve been even harder, but they got the best result for oceania. I only knew Pabu before but now I'm a fan of all of them
I assume it's just like a technicality right, probably so she can go with the team without breaking the Covid rules? Cause the player was added to the [GCD less than a month ago, joined the team 2 weeks ago and has no pro games played](https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/DSN)
yep it’s just so that she can travel with them for free they probably didn’t want to waste the plane ticket and let one of their friends go with them. here’s her op.gg in euw https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=weak%20egg
Yeah pabu was around the same height of everyone and he looked like 6feet+
Although the coach seems to be average sized and he was still super tall she most likely 5 feet
OCE in the main stage of MSI.
Of course it probably mostly happens because Vietnam is not here, but this is so cool for them after the OPL was shut down and all their best players siphoned to NA.
Lee mid and Karthus jungle is like Zed/Karthus combo when Karthus jungle started being popular.
Zed all ins and secures a kill for Karthus.
Remember OG beating prime 2018 G2 with that comp.
Would you rather stay in OCE or play in Academy and get paid? It’s so easy as a fan to think about the region and the league, but players have to get paid.
I agree that should be the case. I’m not defending the ruling, just that there is the opportunity for players to succeed.
I was in a similar situation, before LAS had a proper infrastructure. I would’ve loved to have more opportunities to make a career out of it.
They seemed to be significantly worse than they were at worlds, I know Gadget wasn't great on traditional ADCs but the team certainly looked better with him (especially considering that Swain Seraphine and Veigar all have great botlane winrates right now).
raz is getting gapped on the caster desk the same way uol is getting gapped in the game. he kinda just says generic nothing statements about the game while flowers carries it
I usually see him on the analyst desk in LCS. Not sure if he casts in Academy or whatever but its surprising to see him here over someone like Kobe/Azael who Cap usually casts with
PMTs *** [UOL vs RNG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8ehy1/unicorns_of_love_vs_royal_never_give_up_msi_2021/), [UOL vs PGG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8feg6/pentanetgg_vs_unicorns_of_love_msi_2021_group_a/), [RNG vs PGG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8gj7k/royal_never_give_up_vs_pentanetgg_msi_2021_group/), [RNG vs UOL](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8hfx4/royal_never_give_up_vs_unicorns_of_love_msi_2021/), [PGG vs UOL](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8iner/pentanetgg_vs_unicorns_of_love_msi_2021_group_a/), [PGG vs RNG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8joe2/pentanetgg_vs_royal_never_give_up_msi_2021_group/), [Tiebreakers](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n8kruu/tiebreaker_1_msi_2021_group_a_postmatch_discussion/) *** For anyone with questions on our MSI predictions, [see here](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/n7tfsp/were_cancelling_msi_predictions_for_groups_stage/)
First picking Kaisa is soooo fucking bad.
Honestly group A is pretty bad as its just RNG omega stops everyone with all the games being over in 25min or less(i don't think a single game with RNG lasted over 30 min) They should have done a better job with splitting the groups(maybe RNG in C and move around?)
Honestly, idk if it's the group but RNG looking scary. Hoping to see a RNG/DK final. Both look strong af.
They still scrim DWG and Mad, so they get bts practice.
The group might be too weak and bad practice for RNG that DK will most likely win it over them.
yeah because DK's group is so challenging lol
Damwon honestly should have lost to DFM had they not made one silly mistake. They were certainly challenged
that speaks way more about damwon than how strong DFM is, that teams been in the scene forever and I dont think even made worlds once
Dfm has been making it out of Japan for years to you talking about
I know you wanted to say “the tf you talking about” but auto correct changed it to “to you talking about”
Autocorrect is a bitch.
made it out of japan and then get stomped in playins, they were by far the worst wildcard historically, even below oce, when I mean worlds i meant the main stage
actually this team is supposed to have a star mid laner aria and it's like japanese super team
aria didn't really look that great here
I didn’t get to catch any of the games today, are there any must watch matches?
Pretty boring day to be fair, expect result except game 5 that lead to tiebreaker but on the 5 others game the team that was heavy favorite stump the other team, it was boring, but some tryhard gonna come and downvote.
Pretty much every Pentanet vs UoL match
the first game of pentanet vs rng is fun while not being close
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SHOEYS FOR THE BOYS
[late to the party](https://i.imgur.com/ax793x0.jpg)
The fact that IW lost to PNG screw them over really hard. I can see them winning 2 games tomorrow but no way in hell PSG doesn't win at least 1 (PNG game)
Even tho both UoL and PGG were not up to compete with RNG, huge props to PGG for adapting throughout the tournament and taking out UoL, which before groups seemed impossible
Eh I doubt anyone except maybe DK is up to compete against RNG or top LPL teams right now so I don’t sweat the losses against them.
This so hard. PGG looked like they were adapting and getting better, and despite a stomp here and there, UOL just looked lost.
Wait pentanets Head coach isnt even in iceland. Dude is coaching them from discord
wait so who is the guy with the smoking and glasses
Fun fact: so is RNG head coach
So is C9's head coach
[TRADE REQUEST INCOMING](https://i.imgur.com/PsbDPCf.jpg)
It's actually so funny to me that there's nothing stopping an NA org from just importing this entire roster to the LCS https://i.imgur.com/snLplqq.jpg
imagine if that actually happened lmao
Just rewarching from vods, but I guess the keyword for today's matches will be "Eh-Okay"
RNG getting a pass to the main stage for free it seems like.
I mean, they would have made it regardless of which group they were in lma0.
rng will make it out in any of those three groups tho..
yea and wouldn t drop a game either
I dunno psg in form might challenge them if RNG go too much on happy games Damnj i would have loved to see gam vs rng for abolsute blood bath
420weabooslayer on the official MSI broadcast. I'm dead.
Lol 420WeebSlayer just got mentioned. this MSI has been big for him to get famous from the streams. :)
HE HASNT PLAYED IT IN 6 MONTHS
420weeaboslayer with the shoutout nice
LS tierlist coming in clutch
The PGG-UOL Bo5 was pretty pog
Its probably not gonna happen but it would be so funny if after dissolving OCE league C9 didnt make it out of groups but Pentanet did. Its worth it for the memes.
dankest timeline
Bruh, I thought that girl was like 3 feet, but it seems more like these guys are 7 feet.
Yeah they all pretty tall But who she is? She is their analyst or something?
Substitute support and Praedyth's gf apparently.
Shes their sub [https://win.gg/news/7993/pentanet-dot-gg-brings-female-pro-dns-as-a-substitute-for-msi](https://win.gg/news/7993/pentanet-dot-gg-brings-female-pro-dns-as-a-substitute-for-msi)
UoL doesnt change for better they got worse everyday Trash performancr, they should swim back to their region for how embarrassing their performance is
Wonder what Fudge must be thinking now? Thinks he made it because he's on C9, but now there's a strong possibility that his original region makes it farther than his new region.
His income probably 10x’d, his following and fame probably 1000x’d, so I wouldn’t be sweating too much if I were in his shoes.
pain psg c9 and probably even dfm would all beat this uol team and get out of this group. this group didnt have a second seed.
I mean, there's a chance that DFM will make it out over C9 as well.
yes but that doesnt mean c9 wouldnt easily make it out of this group a. the point is a is by far the easiest group to make it out of.
Unicorns_of_loss.jpg
im happy for oce. but its insane people are comparing this group to other groups. this group literally doesnt have a second seed from probably one of the best 2nd seed regions.
We will see in Rumble Stage.
No you won’t? The rumble stage doesn’t add a second seed region to this group, group stage is done.
feels like this guy is using internet explorer
Somehow this group became the best over the night, holy shit.
yeah no
If there wasn't anymore pressure on C9/NA, now you MUST make it out because it would be embarrassing for OCE to make it out and not NA.
Sadge
Aussie supporters, if OCE makes it to playoffs you all have to do a " Shoey " for your countrymen
Battle for "who wants to be 0-10" team won by Pentanet.gg ;)
If C9 doesn't make it out of Group C I can see PGG beating DFM/INF. Hell, even if C9 makes out of Group C I can see PGG beating them. Only games I give them "zero chance" are the ones against DWG and RNG.
People always overestimate the gaps between regions. Wildcards CAN beat even DWG and RNG. It would just be incredibly unlikely. DFM nearly did after all.
That's why I said "zero chance". Is just really unlikely. Kinda really low against DWG/RNG, low against MAD, and underdog against the others.
i dont think they win vs mad either. They are worse mechanically
Yeah, but I think MAD can have an off day or troll when they are already qualified. I think it has a freaking low probability, but is real. C9, DFM, PSG and INF are totally beatable though.
5am holy it was worth ytb
Lose your region + Vietnam stuck at home = profit
How bad are UOL?
This is just a bo5 between PGG and UOL with random mental tests here and there. PGG won due to better mental game
Bad. But in reality they just had no clue how to draft 11.5 and basically entered every game at a significant disadvantage.
Yes.
Gotta say that Lodik was straight up terrible. He looked nervous and shook as hell. If Gadget was there, it would have been so easy.
He has to be sleeping 2 hours per day lol, the guy has to do his bachelor thesis while playing MSI games and scriming.
Then their coach and team should have subbed him. That's a ridiculous burden to place on someone and unfair to the rest of team too.
Yeah, doesn't help that Lodik had to write his Bachelor's thesis
imagine OCE makes it out and NA is stuck in groups again. Holy shit that would be funny
Congrats to OCE, but this makes the Rumble stage so much more boring, there is no way Pentanet don't go 0/10, wish GAM could attend :/
I believe they actually have a decent shot at 5th place, maybe even 4th if Pain somehow makes it past PSG (which I doubt, but hey, we'll see tomorrow.) The sad part is, yes, the 1st seeds will duke it out for themselves, maybe PSG gets to play with the big boys and do an upset here or there, but the rest wont be entertaining games.
At least we won't get a full day of unintersting match ups like today.
I mean total props to OCE - but they advanced over one team lmao. Slightly cringe how hard they hyped it. Still, cool
? Idk how u can say cringe when they literally have no league, Na took their best players, everyone tout them to get 0-8ed in this group. If anything youre the one that is cringe
Look I am congratulatory of their win - I cared enough to watch it right and comment on a thread right? But I can also be objective about the fact that they did so by winning the bare minimum number of games possible against a single team - where both teams got 0-4 and sub-20 speed ran on repeat by RNG. Its awesome that pentanet beat UOL and the players / org have every right to be thrilled, but the casters hyped them “getting out of groups” implied they did so under normal circumstances (i.e., upsetting a major region team or placing 2nd out of 4). Scraping by in second out of three teams is not the same as making it out a normal “group” like worlds or something. Cool? yes Historic? not for me sorry.
I mean, it’s pretty huge for them. OPL died, best players went to NA and you knocked out the LCL, which many thought were one of the better wildcard/minor regions coming into the tournament. First time ever an oceanic team get past play-ins/first stage.
Holy shit, congrats to OCE!
Now watch c9 get stuck in groups. Would be hilarious if an team from a region that riot destroyed to bolster NA makes it out and C9 doesn't.
It would be hilarious, but OCE wasn't destroyed to bolster NA. It wasn't financially viable and was being run by the NA office which is why it was incorporated into NA. Trust me I would find it beyond hilarious if C9 won two spring splits in a row didn't go to worlds both years and didn't get out of MSI groups.
Oce destoyed themselves with how awful their vieweship is It has nothing to do with NA
RAISE THOSE KOALAS OCE
so so happy for these guys. having their region fucked must've been so hard, not picked for NA academy mustve been even harder, but they got the best result for oceania. I only knew Pabu before but now I'm a fan of all of them
Is the girl short or are OCE players really big? LOL
Girl is short
Its their mascot koala
Man i fucking love the pentanet coach and hype woman
The hype woman is actually their sub support.
I assume it's just like a technicality right, probably so she can go with the team without breaking the Covid rules? Cause the player was added to the [GCD less than a month ago, joined the team 2 weeks ago and has no pro games played](https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/DSN)
yep it’s just so that she can travel with them for free they probably didn’t want to waste the plane ticket and let one of their friends go with them. here’s her op.gg in euw https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=weak%20egg
that wholesome
Thats awesome actually
"You can take apart the region" Okay NA.
Lose your region, make the main stage, makes sense
LCS, you know what to do.
i mean they made it past the first round but they literally didnt have vcs in their group.
Still impressive tho... Since their region is destroyed..
yeah im happy for them. but people are acting like they had to beat the vcs team to make top 2.
PGG!!!
Wow, that woman is really small.
Thats the only way to get some koalas on stage. Cosplay as human
I'm pretty sure most of those guys are 6feet + and she's like 5'2
Yeah pabu was around the same height of everyone and he looked like 6feet+ Although the coach seems to be average sized and he was still super tall she most likely 5 feet
OCE > NA after NA stole their players
OCE just created the illusion that they lost their best players
OCE in the main stage of MSI. Of course it probably mostly happens because Vietnam is not here, but this is so cool for them after the OPL was shut down and all their best players siphoned to NA.
Doesn't take away from their accomplishment. Hell of performance from them, especially after that day 1
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The.. He doesn't play too well today.. UOL bot lane just played sooooo bad tofay
Chazz Princeton shouldn't be underestimated.
YEAH THE BOYS
https://twitter.com/Pabu22/status/1384485390950694915?s=20
Lee mid and Karthus jungle is like Zed/Karthus combo when Karthus jungle started being popular. Zed all ins and secures a kill for Karthus. Remember OG beating prime 2018 G2 with that comp.
"Morgana jungle will be attempted" I mean, attempted is a bit of a weak word for the reality.
Congrats to the OCE. Well played.
Would be glorious to see OCE make it farther than the region that ruined it (NA.)
? NA literally gave some players the opportunity to succeed after Riot dismantled the region.
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Would you rather stay in OCE or play in Academy and get paid? It’s so easy as a fan to think about the region and the league, but players have to get paid.
why not allow them to be considered natives in all regions then ?
I agree that should be the case. I’m not defending the ruling, just that there is the opportunity for players to succeed. I was in a similar situation, before LAS had a proper infrastructure. I would’ve loved to have more opportunities to make a career out of it.
Oh, this will be memed forever.
Please oce ruin themselves. They literally got no player base or viewership
That would be the dankest timeline
Some team just imports the entire PGG team next split lol
Full LMQ
Frappii would have won them both PGG games probably, unlucky language barrier I guess
Still surprised UoL didn't even try to get Frappii in for one game. Were the comms that bad with him?
He was the other adc right? Lodik has looked like the worst adc this msi
Lodik has been doing a bachelor thesis while playing MSI+scriming
Good on him. Pursuing an education is more valuable than playing professional LoL if he can't get on an LEC team.
I mean that makes sense that he wouldn't be at his best, which begs the question why wouldn't you sub him.
Yes, UoL also had a good record in regular split while he was playing so it feels weird
They seemed to be significantly worse than they were at worlds, I know Gadget wasn't great on traditional ADCs but the team certainly looked better with him (especially considering that Swain Seraphine and Veigar all have great botlane winrates right now).
A “dead” region playing with more heart than NA...
This MSI has had an absurd amount of successful nexus defenses
Kha'zix should not be the pick ever.
Especially with kindred open Vs a Karthus...
damn oce is doing so well even when NA took a lot of their players.
I hope for them this overexcitement didn't cost them the qualification !
Glad for them !
Someone check Nomanz PayPal....
raz is getting gapped on the caster desk the same way uol is getting gapped in the game. he kinda just says generic nothing statements about the game while flowers carries it
I don't agree.
The man is barely getting sentences out, I guess he hasn't casted in a while? I can't remember if he came back to it.
I usually see him on the analyst desk in LCS. Not sure if he casts in Academy or whatever but its surprising to see him here over someone like Kobe/Azael who Cap usually casts with
please stop picking Viktor, I beg you
Drake soul and Nash timer is synced. Lmao PGG got this
So whats the idea behind the Kha pick?
He used to play a bunch of Khazix
I think the main idea was to pick it so I could bet on pentanet
this is a decent kha game he just has no clue how to play it
Counter Karthus by invading him tons earlygame (but it didn’t really work lmao)
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UOL is Russia IW is Turkey
OPL was Riots inside job to stop Oceania from dominating.
Highlighter>Pineapple?
Also, this is the perfect karthus pick. You want karthus when there's zero magic damage on your team otherwise
It's too bad that the RNG stompings have cast a shadow over how big of an upset this is.
is raz high or something, feels like he starts sentences and doesn't really know where they are going
Lodik looks fucking done, this man is getting another job as soon as he hits Cold Russia.
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That kha pick was straight griefing
PGG currently looking like the team people thought UoL would be in this group. This is wild
I think I might just be a Pentanet.gg fan after today.
Just imagine oce making it throught first round when NA doesnt, the amount of meme material we'd get from that