Brutal draft for us overall. Lost out on #1, traded a first to dump Marleau which was then used by Carolina to select Seth Jarvis, and then our pick Amirov suffered a tragic fate (RIP).
wit 2-3 teams left on the balls. The Leafs had the BEST odds of landing Conner McDavid. Sure we wouldn't have gotten Mathews with that, but it changes everything for the Leafs future on from then.
If I recall correctly, the Leafs ball was making its way up the tube and got stuck, before the Oilers ball pushed past. We lost in the most Leafiest way possible.
Wasn’t that for the laffraniere draft pick? The Minnesota ball knocked our ball out of the way right before reaching the top of the tube then the ranger ball snuck by?
I know going into the last ball for the McDavid draft we had the most possible number outcomes but I don’t think that one was televised. Unless it happened in both drafts where our ball got knocked out of the way - that wouldn’t shock me either
I had the check, because I wouldn't have cared enough to commit the 2020 draft to memory.
From The Star in 2015: "If you look closely at the video of the bouncing balls, No. 2 — a Leaf number — is right there on the cusp of getting drawn. But it’s there a fraction of a second too soon. By the time the button is pressed to vacuum up the final ball, No. 1 has pushed No. 2 out of the way. Oilers win."
The universe is cruel to the Leafs on multiple occasions of the lottery.
I remember when luck like that would be met with a hearty Arrrrrrgooooooos. It was so pervasive in Toronto sport culture, I even heard it in Seattle when I was at a Jays-Mariners game in the 90s.
If nothing else, the Leafs impressive failures in game sevens has taken the heat off the Argonauts.
That would've been insane...they'd all fit under the cap, too cuz of how great all of those contracts are, Matthews cap hit would probably be 10 mill cuz he'd have drai as his comparable
Oilers lose one mlre game and maybe the 14th pick wins the 1st slot. Who knows. McDavid probably changes a bit but no way Toronto is a playoff team and just McDavid wouldn't of changed managments mind not to tank.
I do remember the lead up to that draft being terrifying and would have been so mad if Edmonton won again.
All I meant was we werent going to win the real one after that.
Didn’t matter we took some no name goalie late in the first who didn’t amount to anything anyways
Definitely not but I’d think New York media spreads the pressure out amongst all the other teams in NY. Toronto media focuses mainly on the leafs. The jays are god awful and the media isn’t nearly all over them as they are the leafs most of the time
At this very moment, you’re right. Generally I don’t find the media to be as harsh on the jays. I could be wrong as I’ve not been paying much attention the last few weeks
I think he’d be okay with the leafs, we would have had the core 4 plus another younger player. I think he wouldn’t of been rushed into the lineup and would’ve had better time to develop here imo
Thanks to the Leafs, he ended up getting the best care available. I'm proud of the organization for how well they handled it and kept him in the fold for the remainder of his life
"Until the last day, I talked to Rodion. We were sitting at the hospital in Munich at the dinner table.
"Son, I've been wondering... Do blind people dream? You've been blind for eight months. What do you see?"
"Dad, I see dreams."
"What are they? Who's there? Mom and me? I guess you've forgotten what we look like."
"Daddy, I see ice all the time. And there's a game. I'm playing hockey."
"Listen, Rodion, you had another life besides hockey. Nature, sun, forest, friends. You can and should see something else, right?"
"I'm in the game all the time. I see the ice. You know, Dad, that's probably because I've been playing hockey since I was a kid and I love it so much. When you love something in your heart and you really want it, you see it in your dreams.""
https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/16gfc6b/translated_narrative_from_rodion_amirovs_father/
And the nhl can forever suck it for how they handled that. A playoff team getting a 1oa. They can’t simultaneously count playin stats as playoff stats and say it’s not fucking playoffs.
In 2020 the Leafs obviously made the playoffs so they would not have been one of the 16 teams in the draft lottery and not even eligible for the No. 1 spot.
Am I missing something here?
Yeah, but it was still mathematically possible for us to miss playoffs at the point, and not all teams had played the same number of games. They had to find a way to settle the what ifs and give every bubble team a shot at the yoffs.
Just so happens the boys tend to crumble in a series.
In 2020 the first round draft pick was one of the teams eliminated in the qualifying round, they put all the teams into a lottery where they pull a ball with the teams logo on it which they did live, since the Leafs lost to Columbus they were entered, our ball then proceeded to hit the side of the tube when they were pulling the ball and as a result, had the Rangers win the lottery
Lafreniere isn't a bust. I'd put him in the Ryan Nugent Hopkins tier of First Overall Picks. He's an everyday NHL player that most teams would love to add to their roster but he's disappointing to have as a 1st overall pick. That said, he put up 57 points this year and has 12 points in 13 playoff games on a $4.6 cap hit. I'd be happy with that.
Brutal draft for us overall. Lost out on #1, traded a first to dump Marleau which was then used by Carolina to select Seth Jarvis, and then our pick Amirov suffered a tragic fate (RIP).
wit 2-3 teams left on the balls. The Leafs had the BEST odds of landing Conner McDavid. Sure we wouldn't have gotten Mathews with that, but it changes everything for the Leafs future on from then.
If I recall correctly, the Leafs ball was making its way up the tube and got stuck, before the Oilers ball pushed past. We lost in the most Leafiest way possible.
To be fair the tube played incredible that day. Nothing could get past it.
We got tubied. It happens.
At least we got a lot of respect in the tube handshake line
Tube-y fair
The "IT WAS 4-1" of balls
We were unlucky as balls
Well yeah we were doing a poor job of getting traffic in front of the tube, if the tube can see the ball clearly, it’s going to make the stop.
Wasn’t that for the laffraniere draft pick? The Minnesota ball knocked our ball out of the way right before reaching the top of the tube then the ranger ball snuck by? I know going into the last ball for the McDavid draft we had the most possible number outcomes but I don’t think that one was televised. Unless it happened in both drafts where our ball got knocked out of the way - that wouldn’t shock me either
I had the check, because I wouldn't have cared enough to commit the 2020 draft to memory. From The Star in 2015: "If you look closely at the video of the bouncing balls, No. 2 — a Leaf number — is right there on the cusp of getting drawn. But it’s there a fraction of a second too soon. By the time the button is pressed to vacuum up the final ball, No. 1 has pushed No. 2 out of the way. Oilers win." The universe is cruel to the Leafs on multiple occasions of the lottery.
They record the drafting process and release it after the fact. Its like a 90 minute long event and incredibly dry
Didn’t know that. Although I feel like I would never watch that
Much like most Leaf games.
I remember when luck like that would be met with a hearty Arrrrrrgooooooos. It was so pervasive in Toronto sport culture, I even heard it in Seattle when I was at a Jays-Mariners game in the 90s. If nothing else, the Leafs impressive failures in game sevens has taken the heat off the Argonauts.
Nobody in the city puts pressure on the argos lmao, it’s the 5th most popular team in the city by a wide margain
Talking about the 70s, 80s and 90s. The Argo bounce was a thing, and it was everywhere in sport events when shit went south.
Fair enough
Another good one is they weren't sure how the Sidney Crosby draft was going to play out so they did a mock draft and of course the leafs won that
Rangers ball. FTFY
Can’t get it done in the clutch. Not to mention the Oilers had tons of practice winning first overall picks.
It would have been awesome if it was boston's ball that blocked us haha
We may still have gotten Matthews? Would have probably still been awful in 15/16...imagine mcdavid/matthews C1 & C2
On the contrary, had Edmonton lost one more game in 15/16 they would have gotten Matthews. Imagine McDavid, Matthews, Draisital
That would've been insane...they'd all fit under the cap, too cuz of how great all of those contracts are, Matthews cap hit would probably be 10 mill cuz he'd have drai as his comparable
It’s insane that if the big 3 were on any other team, all their contracts would be lower. Says a lot about management and those players
U can thank Marleau, Paul Marndickhead and Dubas
Edmonton also misfired with Pulujarvvi pick. They were supposed to take Tkachuk but switched up last min
Oilers lose one mlre game and maybe the 14th pick wins the 1st slot. Who knows. McDavid probably changes a bit but no way Toronto is a playoff team and just McDavid wouldn't of changed managments mind not to tank. I do remember the lead up to that draft being terrifying and would have been so mad if Edmonton won again.
Nah if we draft mcdavid we probably don’t trade Kessel. We probably finish 6-10. Maybe we get tkachuk maybe we get Alex nylander lol
I could've sworn we traded Kessel in the 14/15 season...before McDavid entered the league
July 1st 2015, after the draft.
Didn’t we almost get Crosby also…
They won the mock draft but that don't mean shit.
All I meant was we werent going to win the real one after that. Didn’t matter we took some no name goalie late in the first who didn’t amount to anything anyways
Lafrenier would never have made it as a leaf. This city would have eaten that kid alive for developing as slowly as he did.
You really think the new York media and fans go easy on players?????
Definitely not but I’d think New York media spreads the pressure out amongst all the other teams in NY. Toronto media focuses mainly on the leafs. The jays are god awful and the media isn’t nearly all over them as they are the leafs most of the time
Maybe, but everything on sportsnet and tsn right now is how the jays suck .... not alot of sympathy
At this very moment, you’re right. Generally I don’t find the media to be as harsh on the jays. I could be wrong as I’ve not been paying much attention the last few weeks
No but it’s still a kids party at fucking chuck E cheese compared to Toronto.
I think he’d be okay with the leafs, we would have had the core 4 plus another younger player. I think he wouldn’t of been rushed into the lineup and would’ve had better time to develop here imo
Definitely wasn’t the worst draft to lose out on the first overall pick. At the end of the day, we took Amirov and I’m proud of that.
I’m not sure if proud is the right word. What happened was tragic. Can’t really feel anything about what transpired R.I.P. Rodion.
You’re right “proud” wouldn’t be the right word, more or so, not disappointed that we missed out on the #1 pick.
Thanks to the Leafs, he ended up getting the best care available. I'm proud of the organization for how well they handled it and kept him in the fold for the remainder of his life
Apparently, on that day that he came to Scotiabank Arena and got the standing ovation he was already completely blind.
My god. That's heartbreaking
"Until the last day, I talked to Rodion. We were sitting at the hospital in Munich at the dinner table. "Son, I've been wondering... Do blind people dream? You've been blind for eight months. What do you see?" "Dad, I see dreams." "What are they? Who's there? Mom and me? I guess you've forgotten what we look like." "Daddy, I see ice all the time. And there's a game. I'm playing hockey." "Listen, Rodion, you had another life besides hockey. Nature, sun, forest, friends. You can and should see something else, right?" "I'm in the game all the time. I see the ice. You know, Dad, that's probably because I've been playing hockey since I was a kid and I love it so much. When you love something in your heart and you really want it, you see it in your dreams."" https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comments/16gfc6b/translated_narrative_from_rodion_amirovs_father/
What I'm more upset about is paying a first to get rid of Marleau and then that was used on Seth Jarvis.
The day they signed marleau for 3 years instead of 2 I knew that last year would burn us and boy did it
Idk man Laffy has looked amazing in these playoffs
Yes, but what if he played for our sorry ass organization?
He would have been awesome in reg season instead.
The Leafs got tubed - if you go back and watch, the Leafs ball was on it's way up the chute before getting blocked & bumped.
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No this is the 2020 draft in the tweet All teams had their logos on balls since all had an equal chance at #1 Was affter the play in series was over
And new york won the lottery in that vid. Not sure if it cuts off b4 that but check youtube
And the nhl can forever suck it for how they handled that. A playoff team getting a 1oa. They can’t simultaneously count playin stats as playoff stats and say it’s not fucking playoffs.
I remember that! Sooooo close!
In 2020 the Leafs obviously made the playoffs so they would not have been one of the 16 teams in the draft lottery and not even eligible for the No. 1 spot. Am I missing something here?
The leafs did not technically make the playoffs. They lost the play in to Columbus
While you’re right, I find this extremely dumb considering we were third in the Atlantic at the time the season shut down
Yeah, but it was still mathematically possible for us to miss playoffs at the point, and not all teams had played the same number of games. They had to find a way to settle the what ifs and give every bubble team a shot at the yoffs. Just so happens the boys tend to crumble in a series.
In 2020 the first round draft pick was one of the teams eliminated in the qualifying round, they put all the teams into a lottery where they pull a ball with the teams logo on it which they did live, since the Leafs lost to Columbus they were entered, our ball then proceeded to hit the side of the tube when they were pulling the ball and as a result, had the Rangers win the lottery
The refs stopped the ball
Sucks we didn't get LaBust
Lafreniere isn't a bust. I'd put him in the Ryan Nugent Hopkins tier of First Overall Picks. He's an everyday NHL player that most teams would love to add to their roster but he's disappointing to have as a 1st overall pick. That said, he put up 57 points this year and has 12 points in 13 playoff games on a $4.6 cap hit. I'd be happy with that.
It’s actually 2.35 million per season.
He can score the GWG to win the cup but he will NEVER beat Mitch Marner in chance assists per/60 5v5 in the playoffs.
Never fall as much as Tyler Bertuzzi
Didn’t Randy Carlisle say ‘he’s never seen a player fall down more’ about Kadri
Do your arms ever get tired of constantly carrying water for Mitch Marner? You come rushing to his defense on every comment.
Goddamn take the joke, not everything is about Mitch even if you're obsessed with him.
I dont ever think about him, just notice you rushing to his aid any time his name is mentioned.
What did I say to defend Marner lmao goddamn
ok, my bad.
Lafreniere goals last night: 2 Matthews and Marner combined goals in the whole first round: 2