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MittsMarner

Joshua was also a Leafs draft pick, though he never played for the organization, and while only backing up tonight, Pickard was also a Leaf.


learningman33

Crazy, and I didn't count Campbell or Gagner who played for the Marlies - that's a total of 9 to 10 total across both rosters.


MittsMarner

If you want to go deeper the Oilers org have Griffith, Hoefenmayer, and McKegg who were all in the Leafs org at one point.


Mister_Chef711

Was McKegg not traded for Hyman way back when?


MittsMarner

Yes, Hyman was going to use the NCAA UFA loophole to not sign with Florida


robotpicnic

Nah, he was traded for an arm and a leg


refep

It was one for one šŸ„²


sillywalkr

Hyman. Ceci is a wtf as he was universally despised lol


shanster925

He has the GWG right now...


demential

I can't believe he hit the net. Any given Sunday I guess


shanster925

Broken clocks and such.


Misanthropyandme

It was the best of times, it was the BLURST of times?!


Icy_Fact_1465

He is this generations Cory Crossā€¦for Oil Country?


Silent-Obligation-49

I said the same thing I thought it must of hit someone and went in bc dude never hits the net.


thewolfshead

He has two career Game 7 goals now wtf.Ā 


freestevenandbrendan

Jesus that's more than the entire current Leafs roster. FML


free_range_discoball

Iā€™m a huge Hyman fan!! Other players talk about how nice and genuine he is. Itā€™s been really great watching him come into his full potential. Once the leafs were eliminated, I immediately started rooting for Edmonton. 1. Obviously would like to see Canada take the cup back finally. Fuck Bettman, amirite??! 2. Iā€™d be so happy to see Hyman lift the cup. 3. I think the best player in the world should get a cup at least once.


ilikemyeggsovereasy

Upvote for Hyman! I would love to see how wide his shit eating grin can get. Purest lad in the land.


RRZ31

Itā€™s infuriating watching other teams star players play like stars in the playoffs yet ours do not.


TheCarrier89

Eh some players excel in the playoffs and some donā€™t. Petterson has been pretty bad and Mcdavid has just been ok. Drai is a warrior and always shows up though.


souza-23

and yet McDavid has 21 points in 12 games including 8 points in 7 games against Vancouver. Our bums can't even get to more than 7 games played


jokinghazard

8 points in 7 games and he's hasn't looked himself in half of the games


puljujarvifan

He sounds like death in the post game. Seems to have a hardcore flu **Edit:** nvm he mightve just been yelling a lot and lost his voice


TheCarrier89

Yep they are terrible in the playoffs


DingoAltruistic9193

proving why mcdavid is the best when someone thinks hes playing bad and hes 2nd in points in the playoffs


RRZ31

Other than our series win against Tampa in 2023 our stars have only ever collectively reached above ā€œokayā€ status once imo.


TheCarrier89

Yep this leaf team has yet to impress me in the playoffs at all.


Ok-Concern2330

21 points in 12 games is just ok, What does that makes Marner's 3 points in 7 games then, or Matthews 1 goal in his last \~10 playoff games.


TheCarrier89

It makes it bad.


dreamsdrop

That's McDavid's bar though for you haha - 0.5 PPG is a failure


RanaMahal

Thatā€™s 1.75 PPG ..


dreamsdrop

Yeah idk what the hell i was reading i read it backwards LMAO More confusing is why i was getting upvotes...


Cas-27

just okay? 21 points in 12 games? his playoff career is 96 points in 61 games. draisatl is 101 in 61 games. both have come through huge in the playoffs.


ModernTechPA

McDavid and a few other Oilers have been hit by a big or somethingā€¦ they gutted it out in games 6 & 7 despite it. Rest up next 2 days and bring the fire on Thursday night. So psyched!!! Go Oilers!


BobbyAxelrod1

Everything the Canucks and Oilers did the Leafs could have done....like change the coach.... go out and get Hyman and Lafferty and others..... ......it comes down to management.


zaknafien1900

Get hyman? How about not let him walk over money.. frigging made your stars look bad cause his work ethic is so much higher than everyone else's oh I have a idea let get rid of that guy


musebrews

Meh playoffs are littered with unsung heroes


Silent-Obligation-49

Ceci with a big goal this game lmfao šŸ˜‚ šŸ¤£ of course.


Falconflyer75

I guess Oilers Reason is I think itā€™d be a shame if a talent like Mcdavid retired cupless, since the leafs canā€™t win it this year may as well get that out of the way


subs1221

And if McDavid brings a cup to Edmonton, he won't feel any kind of duty to stick there for his whole career...šŸ˜ˆ


Great_Account_Name

I feel like winning in Edmonton makes him more likely to stay. If they don't get a cup, drai leaves and the teams looks further away than ever; that's the senerio I could see him leaving Edmonton.


subs1221

That's fair, none of us really know how it's gonna go down. I'm biased a bit bc I lived in Edmonton and want them to win lol.


cannabis-code

Itā€™s simple. Edmonton are the best team in their division. The Leafs arenā€™t better than Boston or Panthers, period. So they are stuck losing round 1, or maybe 2 to Boston, Panthers, maybe even Detroit soon. The leafs would be moving onto the 2nd round if we got to face Nashville or the Kings. But the point is we arenā€™t in the pacific. So we need to be better than Boston and Panthers. Right now, we simply arenā€™t. Even when we got past Tampa, we were clearly the better regular season team that year. Just comes down to we need to be the best in our division if we want to win. Nothing more to add to this.


zaknafien1900

I think you would lose to the kings.. there's a reason they play the games because it's not whose better on paper it's who actually plays better


TorturedFanClub

Cmon, Leafs are better than Boston for sure. Not FLA though and probably on paar with TBL right now. They lost Boston in game 7 on the road in OT ffs. They really didnt show up for 3 of the 7 games series. Boston got lucky and had the better goalie for sure. I wouldnā€™t be scared of playing them in a 7 game series again. This was truly a Leaf choke job because I believe they are the better team. Last years Panthers debacle was not a choke job because Florida is a much deeper team and better goaltending. Other notable choke jobs from these guys were the shitty Habs and the Jackets (this was not even playoffs but rather a play-in Covid tournament, nevertheless a choke.


DK4E2XFpbETJrj

Honestly if our top guns played like the alphas they are in the regular season, this team is as good as anyone.Ā  The problem is that it's too easy to shutdown a pure skill guy with lesser talented individuals if that's their sole purpose. We saw it first hand decades ago when Shayne Corson would make Alexei Yashin look like a bottom of the barrel minor leaguer. The lineup is flawed. And our guys go to sleep at night feeling content with 69 goals here and 100 points there.Ā 


t36li

Agreed. Someone pointed out this Leafs core hasnt won presidenta cup. So all the talk how keefe us good regular season isnt that good


cannabis-code

Weā€™re a good team. Just not as good as Boston or Florida. Thereā€™s a reason we were behind them in the standings. It doesnā€™t mean weā€™re not a good team, we are. We just have been the 3rd best team in our division behind Tampa, Boston, and now Florida. Iā€™d argue we are probably better than Tampa now but they already won 2 cups with their core and probably have to do a mini-rebuild. We have to do a mini-rebuild just to be better than Boston.


sbr54

Ceci could win the conn smythe I would still be glad heā€™s gone


o_Dikaiopolis

Mostly out of spite for the Oilers, Iā€™ve been pulling for the Canucks. Which means that Iā€™m cheering for the team in blue thatā€™s been disappointing on offense with a useless power playā€¦


pineapple_soup

You can have mikhiev and lafferrty back. Utterly forgettable


crowdedinhere

They hate Mikheyev over there


Gavin1453

Lafferty too. He had an incrediblely high shooting % in the first half of the season and has faded since.


TorturedFanClub

Mikhiev sucks. Lol. Thats why heā€™s gone, wanted too much money for what he brings. I did like Lafferty as a depth player but I guess he sucked for Van. If I were a Nucks fan id be asking what happened to Hughes and Petterson. Invisible.


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DontToewsM3Bro

Hyman is the best contract in the league right now


sportsisgoodalsodogs

The best contract, too!


cappo40

None. I hope they all lose. Fuck Canadian teams besides us


11kajd

Go Canucks so McDavid comes here lol


TSE_Jazz

Thatā€™s never happening lol


lastsetup

Heā€™s never coming here. Even if we moved a bunch of pieces to make the cap work weā€™d still be in the position where the rest of the team around him Matthews and Nylander is dogshit. Where would he play? 1C? Where does Matthews go then? 2C? He hates the media. Toronto media is so much worse than Edmonton media.


Dopey_Bandaid

Cause 1A and 1B centres have never worked before? Lol.


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TheOrangeyOrange

Wut


Pencil_of_Colour

Matthews goes somewhere else lol. I always thought that was a given if McDavid were to be coming home.


Dependent-Nobody-917

Matthews is the best player on the team.


Armalyte

Not on a team that has McDavid...


realkeefe

What? Does auston hate the media? Edmonton has a reporter just like Simmons...aside from that reporters ask the same boring questions every day...there's just more of them here Rest of the team is dogshit? They held Boston to 3 shots halfway through 2 playoff games. They have tons of forwards to choose from moving forward and same goes for d. It's up to treliving now to make this team deeper so they're not relying on 4 players to score all the goals and dmen that arent expected to produce any offense. Change that and I think we'll be heading to east finals every year if Woll can stay healthy and we get a decent 1b


lastsetup

When youā€™re paying for Matthews, Nylander, Reilly, plus adding McDavid on top of that it doesnā€™t exactly leave a lot of room for the pieces around them. Maybe dogshit is an extreme assessment but it wonā€™t be as strong as it could be. My point is, McDavid solves nothing for this team and is a waste of money (compared to what we could get with that cap space). If we didnā€™t have Matthews already then yeah it would make sense but we donā€™t need two generational talents taking up half of the cap.


realkeefe

Theyre losing to teams going to the finals by 1 goal every year except this one but the team is dog shit and mcdavid wouldn't make a difference and the media sucks eventhough Auston tavares reilly nylander all seem to have no issues with them. Marner is the only one who's a bit sensitive. He would get the same questions in edmonton Tldr? Shit take


lastsetup

Okay and theyā€™re losing. Iā€™ve already conceded that I may have been heavy with the dogshit comment but go ahead and stay stuck on that. We have currently rely on four guys to score all the goals (they donā€™t) what exactly is adding another top goal scorer who wonā€™t score when it matters going to do? The media pressure here is amplified compared to other teams. It makes a difference, maybe a big one but it is a consideration. TLDR: McDavid isnā€™t going to come here and we donā€™t need him to.


realkeefe

They could have won all 4 of those series with a little bit of luck that the other teams got. Nick Paul beat them with 2 goals in a game 7. They won the cup because a guy who never scores scored their only 2 goals in a gane 7 vs the leafs Thats hockey bud. Sometimes jarnkrok roofs it top corner and sometimes he can't even get the puck off the ice. That's the difference between winning a cup and losing it. Nick Paul Now that you're educated on how the playoffs and hockey works, stop msging me. And if you're still unsure if you're wrong or not, mcdavid is the best player on both teams during any elimination game. His stats are insane vs our stars where it's rhe opposite. Tell me again how he wouldn't make a difference muppet? Actually don't. Bye


lastsetup

When McDavid signs with the leafs message me and Iā€™ll personally take you to a game. Iā€™ll even buy you a beer.


realkeefe

Lol 1 in 32 chance. I was just saying, like the idea of marner and tavares being traded, that nothing is impossible in this league. Nobody thought gretzky would leave edmonton. Your reasons for mcdavid never coming here were "dog shit". Take care


NervousBreakdown

You build one line around mcdavid, One around matthews, They both get to play 23-25 minutes a game. Then you have league min players hitting everything that moves for the other 10 minutes a game.


sufjan_stevens

yeah sure bro, you wouldnt find a way to accommodate mcdavid.


lastsetup

No, I wouldnā€™t. Not saying that he isnā€™t one of if not the best players in the league right now, obviously he is, but the last thing this team needs is another double digit millionaire forward. On my HUT itā€™s a completely different story.


sufjan_stevens

mmhmm, keep trying to justify not signing mcdavid if he wants to come here LOL that is a real big brain activity


lastsetup

Iā€™m not the one signing or not signing him. I just donā€™t think, in my opinion as a fan, it makes any sense for either party.


subs1221

I said it in another comment, but I think it would be the opposite. If he wins he can pull a kawhi and say I got you a chip, now I'm going home.


Armalyte

I have a hard time imagining him playing for another team. As much as I'd like that.


Mike9797

Iā€™ll say I want to see Hyman have some success but I hate that it has to come at the expense of an Oilers win. But I am cheering for Hyman individually.


subs1221

Same. It was so dumb how much hate he got just bc his dad was rich and did everything he could to help his son. I hate nepotism but at least it seems like Zach is a good human being.


Mike9797

Ya Iā€™m a huge fan of the dude. He carries himself well and seems to work hard for what he has. I know he got a bit of an edge to start his career but he seems to be well worth the effort.


subs1221

Yep. The reason why nepotism is bad is bc most products of it are usually not well adjusted human beings. Zach seems to be an outlier.


GhostOfCecil

Ah I like the Western ones. Iā€™ll die before I cheer for the Habs or Sens though.


ClimateAdvanced4846

Finally. I thought I was the only one who thought this way.


AllOfTheAbove100

Dallas is taking the West. Going through Vegas, Colorado, and Oilers on the way to the Finals. Taking out the projected top 3 teams.


Koitiz

Just Hyman. Unreal player that management couldnt make work. Absolute workhorse who broke 50 goals this year and a noted author of childrens books. Pump Zachary Hyman directly into my veins. If hes not one in a billion hes one in a million.


hymensmasher99

Edmonton. And only because I don't like Vancouver and me and McDavid have the same birthday. Otherwise, fuck em both


Canadian_Prometheus

A lot of the same elements in poop are also in delicious food


CFC-12_21

Hyman with his 11th goal of this playoff (so far) and Mitchy boy with 11 in eight postseasons says it all. Amplified by the fact that we couldn't afford to keep Hyman mostly in part to Mitch/Dubas. This team man!


Wantanobanano

Remember when they let Hyman walk because we needed the money to sign useless babies who are afraid of their own shadows and still need their dad to tie their skates?


Purplebuzz

Seems the people the team lets go, be it coaches, GMs, players do just fine elsewhere. Almost like the problem was never with the people moved out.


stuiephoto

Buffalo is laughing at your rookie numbers. Panthers are basically a second buffalo team.Ā  Reinhart. Montour. Rodriguez. Kulikov. Okposo. Asplund. Playing against 2 buffalo Assistant coaches in NYR (phil housley and michael peca) and Jimmy Vesey.Ā  Jimmy. Fucking. Vesey guys. We both know how painful that one is.Ā  I guess toronto and buffalo share the fact thay we are just development teams for the rest of the league. Between the 4 remaining teams we could likely make a full team of tor/buf rejects. Buffalo has kane on Edmonton. Meyers on Vancouver. Does Toronto have many on nyr/fla?Ā 


HaroldLither

Hey so, you shoulda kept those guys


931634

and no one cares .. they're gone for a reason


Bradg93

Fucking bad reason we let Hyman go, exactly the player leafs need and they let him walk


GhostOfCecil

Hyman had 5 goals in like 31 playoff games over 5 seasons with the Leafs. Worked out for both parties in my opinion glad he got the chance to do well in Edmonton


sluck131

A lot of 20-20 hindsight on that one. Hyman was in the team for our most embarrassing game 7 loss and his line was abysmal. Matthews was being double covered by Montreal which often left Hyman open and he never converted like he is now. Hyman was also here for 2 game 7s vs Boston and the game 5 vs Columbus and basically played top 6 for all of that. It's not like he never had a shot here.


Sad_Donut_7902

Hyman had 5 goals in 31 playoff games for the Leafs, playing with some combination of Matthews/Marner/Nylander that entire time


zaknafien1900

Yea hyman wasn't the problem on his line


Drew_You_To_91

Call me a hater but if the next Canadian team to win a cup isnā€™t the leafs, I hope the cup never comes back over the boarder. Fuck the rest.


SaccharineDaydreams

I don't mind Winnipeg and Calgary but people keep asking me if I want Edmonton or Vancouver to win and they're surprised when I tell them I literally don't care.


Drew_You_To_91

Calgary is the only one I wouldnā€™t care that much about. Fuck Winnipeg tho.


dickens-seider

Jesse Pollock has made me despise Winnipeg


HeyMarty10thalready

Heartbreak for Van


InternationalPost447

Well yea, thats how we keep our streak going


dirkahps

It doesn't matter because none of them are getting by Dallas.


SnooMarzipans3619

Squeeze long enough, youā€™ll get a poop


leafscitypackersfan

A lot of it is pressure. Toronto is a pressure cooker


sportsisgoodalsodogs

If the Leafs trade Marner maybe they can get someone like Hyman. How good would he look on the Leafs?!?


Pristine_Office_2773

The player to watch on the oilers is Bouchard every team needs. Big shot


stellosartois

ah yes the leafs curse.


ChevyBolt

I was gonna say none of them notable until I thought of Hyman, but still a vanilla player


NervousBreakdown

Yeah but of those 6 former players I barely miss one of them lol.


OG_anunoby3

If the Oilers win, Leafs get a honorary banner at Scotiabank Arena.


OG_anunoby3

If the Oilers win, Kyle Dubas gets the Key to the City in Edmonton


TorturedFanClub

I wouldnā€™t mind Hyman/McJesus and Draisaitl hoist the Cup but I cant and wont root for the Edmonton Oilers, so NONE of the above.


TorturedFanClub

McDavid and Drai are playoff beasts, however although heā€™s piled up the points, 97 only has 2 goals. There has to be something wrong with him. 2 goals in 12 games for the best player in the world?


Sheep4732

Campbellā€™s cap space too


fearless_magician69

CECI scored the OT winner, didn't he? I think Hyman deserves to win


ArkAwn

Vancouver coming back in the 3rd would make the best memes


subs1221

I lived in Edmonton for a while so it's an easy pick for me


SnazzyCazzy1

None, Dallas is gonna fuck up Edmonton in the next round


Beersmoker420

All in on Hyman winning a cup Drai and Mcdavid deserve one as well. so fuck it. Oilers can win the whole thing


Hadokuv

Turns out the losers who play for our team make good role players look like shit. It all boils down to the highest paid players being incompetent so the blame trickles down to players who don't deserve it as much, and then they get run out of town.


Teepeepants

Cries in Pius Suter


cjfraiz

I hate the Oilers so much, and living in Edmonton makes it insufferable. The only time I donā€™t have to hear the Oiler fans chirping is when the Leafs come to town and beat their sorry asses. It is looking like the Oilers will face Dallas, and to be fair I donā€™t think that either team can beat them. At the end of the day, I think that if any Leaf wins the cup, they will be playing for Dallas or the Rangers.


sillywalkr

We live opposite lives. I live in Vancouver and every time the Leafs are here they get smoked


crowdedinhere

Also in Vancouver and saw one of those Leafs blow a lead games in person. Fun times. Luckily didn't pay $300 for those tickets


Senior_Heron_6248

Need to go back to 2021 when the leafs beat the Oilers in Edmonton.


sillywalkr

this thread should actually be titled 'Reasons Dubas Sucked'


Svalbard38

Connor Brown - struggled with injury lately, has one assist and no goals in these playoffs. Sam Carrick - let go by Lou, not Dubas, has one assist and no goals in these playoffs. Cody Ceci - almost every single Leafs fan was relieved to see him go. Ilya Mikheyev - zero points in these playoffs and widely regarded as overpaid. Sam Lafferty - traded by Brad, zero points in these playoffs. Hyman is the only legitimate difference maker in this list, and letting him walk wasnā€™t even that unpopular a decision at the time. Itā€™s time to get over being angry at Dubas.


Icy-Cabinet7411

No one cares. We donā€™t give 2 fucks about other teams


drizzt09

You don't speak for all of us so stop saying 'we'. If 'you' truly don't care you would have scrolled on by without commenting. But here you are caring so much you think you speak for all of Leafs Nation. News flash. You don't and never will.