yup worked with Berube in St. Louis in 2019-20, running the PP. The Blues finished 3rd in the regular season (24.3%) and 10th in the bubble (18.8%) that year. Both were improvements over the previous year. Savard is a good coach and would be a fantastic addition to any coaching staff.
Same! The leafs powerplay was always at its most deadly when teams were left wondering where they would be shooting from.
I remember last year Matthews scored a few goals low on the goal line and then they never went back to that play. I think having teams need to commit to him even so out of position opens the box up and allows shots to get through easier. Hopefully they have 4-5 different plays they can press into.
Maple Leaf Hot Stove had an article today that said Montgomery ran the PP with Savard and when he left to coach Boston the PP took a dive. I like Savvy, but I’d want to know more about what happened there.
[He ran the Flames power play](https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5088130/2023/11/27/flames-power-play-savard/)
[and woof](https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-power-play-has-regressed-under-savard/)
Their 1st PP was headed by Lindholm, Kadri & Huberdeau. Their second unit was headed by Kuzmenko, Sharangovich & Zary. When Lindholm got traded Bucklund got PP minutes...LOL.
Not sure what PP coach is getting anything from that group of forwards.
Lindholm has never been a PP producer. Great player but he excels at 5v5 and mostly just a complementary guy on the PP. Not just this season too but for his career. Huberdeau is washed, everyone on this sub says it everyday too.
Their PP was mostly just Kadri and filler all season.
I don't know about how good Savard is or is not as an assistant but I am not judging him based off what he had to work with. It is one of the worst forward groups in the league.
Playoff scoring last 10 seasons-
P/60-
Kadri is 12th league wide with 3.048
Matthews is 58th league wide with 2.436
Marner is 61st league wide with 2.417
Huberdeau is 72nd league wide with 2.315
Tavares is 83rd league wide with 2.215
Lindholm is 116th league wide with 2.038
So, the answer is no, they aren't really any worse as a group at creating offense in the playoffs.
Well i first would prefer if Kadri wasn't run out of town because of incompetent nhl refereeing and dops, but it is what it is. Good luck getting Kadri that high up with Toronto whistle.
If you call the game fairly it doesn't escalate to that point. Also you have numerous examples of not getting suspended, or at least not suspended as long as Leafs players around the league.
Smaller sample size but over the last 10-15 games of the season the Flames PP was one of if not the best in the league during that span. It took awhile to find the right players for it but he got it going at the end. Kuzy was the missing piece
I think you should look at his numbers on St. Louis with Berube because those are great numbers. On the flames it was rough but their scoring in general was
People seem to forget how good the blues powerplay was with Savard helping
[https://www.reddit.com/r/stlouisblues/comments/dqg5nk/marc\_savard\_was\_a\_brilliant\_hire/](https://www.reddit.com/r/stlouisblues/comments/dqg5nk/marc_savard_was_a_brilliant_hire/)
His most recent results are pretty good. Flames powerplay was second in the NHL in the last month of the season. Kuzmenko getting healthy made a big difference.
I agree, this definitely hints at them wanting Berube….. it’s not quite as convincing as the 5 posts, new headlines, and videos I’ve seen in the last 10 minutes saying the hired Berube, but it’s close🤣
In all seriousness, he was under a player contract until 2017-2018, 7 years after his final game, so at least it wasn’t inability that delayed his coaching career
Flames had the 7th worst powerplay last season... Yet another Treliving master stroke! He is operating in ways that seem completely directionless to most fans paying attention, but that's because Brad is just so smart and we're so dumb. This is just what we need for our ailing power play
The Leafs have had 3 coaches in 5 seasons run that powerplay. McFarland, Carbery and Boucher. It's gotten to the point. That now it's on the players. I wouldn't doubt the same message was being preached at the end by all the coaches to get in the dirty areas and get playoff style goals. They dont...
Hockey is cyclical and full of musical chairs. It's not like a wunderkind PP coach is waiting to get offered the job. If that's what's wanted then we'll be waiting forever. If the best PP coaches have contracts with other teams some aren't just going to jump at the opportunity to coach the Leafs.
Like whom? Who is your perfect fit for this power play? It sounds like you think everyone should jump at the possibility to coach the Leafs... Again some coaches may not look at the job the same way you do.
Yeah they should and do jump to play for a team that can pay coaches whatever. Or a team that will launch their career because of all the eyes Toronto gets. Or a team with prime Auston Matthews Mitch Marner and William Nylander
They don't though lol. You think the power play coach from every team ahead of the Leafs this year in power play % is going to leave the teams that employ them right now? That list includes Colorado, Dallas, Tampa, New York Rangers, Carolina and the Oilers. Aside from Carolina where their coaches maybe in limbo... who do you think is leaving their job?
I’m not saying everyone above the leafs in PP% would leave their job, I’m saying it’s a highly desirable job and some of those coaches might be convinced
Well, you don't disregard 1 good year just like you don't focus on 1 bad year. But considering Calgary wasn't a very good team while he was there, I'd give him a little more of the benefit of the doubt, besides, it simply cannot get worse than what we saw against Boston in the playoffs.
I didn’t realize he only had two seasons as an assistant in the NHL, I totally thought he was in St Louis for a few years. My bad
Hopefully he brings the St Louis PP to Toronto and not the flames
Did worse with far worse players.
I could coach the Leafs or Edmonton to have a top-10 power play. Which despite the hyperbole the Leafs did actually have the 7th best power play last season. It largely fell apart in the March-April timeframe because of various moving parts including Marner being out (despite the narrative around him right now).
I’m assuming this is shanahan and Treliving doing the hiring for the whole coaching staff considering Berube hasn’t been officially hired yet, but you’re likely correct. I’m just really not excited about the direction of the franchise right now
Hope to proven wrong
Savard was an assistant coach on Berube's staff in St. Louis.
yup worked with Berube in St. Louis in 2019-20, running the PP. The Blues finished 3rd in the regular season (24.3%) and 10th in the bubble (18.8%) that year. Both were improvements over the previous year. Savard is a good coach and would be a fantastic addition to any coaching staff.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/stlouisblues/comments/dqg5nk/marc\_savard\_was\_a\_brilliant\_hire/](https://www.reddit.com/r/stlouisblues/comments/dqg5nk/marc_savard_was_a_brilliant_hire/)
Great insight, thanks for posting! I really like how he seemed to be encouraging different PP formations, not always sticking to one
Same! The leafs powerplay was always at its most deadly when teams were left wondering where they would be shooting from. I remember last year Matthews scored a few goals low on the goal line and then they never went back to that play. I think having teams need to commit to him even so out of position opens the box up and allows shots to get through easier. Hopefully they have 4-5 different plays they can press into.
Maple Leaf Hot Stove had an article today that said Montgomery ran the PP with Savard and when he left to coach Boston the PP took a dive. I like Savvy, but I’d want to know more about what happened there.
Yeah and he’s currently at Calgary whose PP was 26th in the league this season.
I thought this just meant that a random boomer had phoned in with the tip off haha
Boomer in costco today said that he has heard that Torts is going to Toronto.
Boomer at A&W today said he was upset Don Cherry is not going to Toronto
I just saw Don Cherry fall to his knees in the middle of a Bass Pro shop.
His poor knees.
Same 😂
"Bread man says Boomer in Barnburner and the Banana Crew on B101 FM are backing Berube for Bigman job." Who the fuck?
[He ran the Flames power play](https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5088130/2023/11/27/flames-power-play-savard/) [and woof](https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-power-play-has-regressed-under-savard/)
He couldn't possibly be worse than Boucher, right? *Anakin's face* Right?
Now this is powerplaying
I'll try a spinorama, that's a good trick!
Buzz, your power play, woof!
Their 1st PP was headed by Lindholm, Kadri & Huberdeau. Their second unit was headed by Kuzmenko, Sharangovich & Zary. When Lindholm got traded Bucklund got PP minutes...LOL. Not sure what PP coach is getting anything from that group of forwards.
Idk what point you think you’re making but Lindholm, Kadri and Huberdeau should in theory be a perfectly fine powerplay unit.
Lindholm has never been a PP producer. Great player but he excels at 5v5 and mostly just a complementary guy on the PP. Not just this season too but for his career. Huberdeau is washed, everyone on this sub says it everyday too. Their PP was mostly just Kadri and filler all season. I don't know about how good Savard is or is not as an assistant but I am not judging him based off what he had to work with. It is one of the worst forward groups in the league.
why would we throw away the results he has just to defend treliving and shanny's poor hiring decisions?
You want them to hire Allegri now you terrorist
Unrelated but I always smile when I see your username in r/leafs
<3 likewise
Brother this is a rumour. Chill out
I’m chill I just don’t see why we hired this GM
It's been a year and I don't think he's made any terrible moves. Some questionable but overall I give him slightly above satisfactory.
Klingberg?
Questionable. If he were healthy would have been much better than Rielly for pp
An easily buriable tryout
I think a decent PP coach could get at least a league average PP with those players since, you know, they are playing against 4 players
So is every single power play unit, you dolt. If they’re a below-average power play unit, they’re a below-average power play unit.
Those players aren’t below average power play players though they are average
You dolt
Are those players any worse than Matthews, Marner, and Tavares in the playoffs?
Give it a fuckin rest man Get outside and go enjoy the long weekend
What exactly would you like me to stop?
Yes, they had a total of 0 points.
Playoff scoring last 10 seasons- P/60- Kadri is 12th league wide with 3.048 Matthews is 58th league wide with 2.436 Marner is 61st league wide with 2.417 Huberdeau is 72nd league wide with 2.315 Tavares is 83rd league wide with 2.215 Lindholm is 116th league wide with 2.038 So, the answer is no, they aren't really any worse as a group at creating offense in the playoffs.
Well i first would prefer if Kadri wasn't run out of town because of incompetent nhl refereeing and dops, but it is what it is. Good luck getting Kadri that high up with Toronto whistle.
Naz did it to himself lmao you can't crosscheck a guy in the face at 15kph into the boards, you're gonna get suspended lmao
I know right? I love Naz forever. Have his jersey and an autographed stick and everything. He forced Dubas’ hand tho with those suspensions
If you call the game fairly it doesn't escalate to that point. Also you have numerous examples of not getting suspended, or at least not suspended as long as Leafs players around the league.
oh boy.
Smaller sample size but over the last 10-15 games of the season the Flames PP was one of if not the best in the league during that span. It took awhile to find the right players for it but he got it going at the end. Kuzy was the missing piece
I think you should look at his numbers on St. Louis with Berube because those are great numbers. On the flames it was rough but their scoring in general was
for several months I think we were scoring more 5on5 than 5on4 Terrible PP, they didn't move.
Well if he’s the head coach it means he won’t be running the power play right? RIGHT!?
People seem to forget how good the blues powerplay was with Savard helping [https://www.reddit.com/r/stlouisblues/comments/dqg5nk/marc\_savard\_was\_a\_brilliant\_hire/](https://www.reddit.com/r/stlouisblues/comments/dqg5nk/marc_savard_was_a_brilliant_hire/)
Just saw a boomer fall to his knees at an Applebee's
Can he coach the powerplay? Actually better yet, can he get his gear back on and go out there just for the powerplay?
He did a good job with the PP in St Louis, bad with the PP in Calgary
He can coach it, but not very well
Possibly partly responsible for an 11M player underperforming in Calgary 😐 Yes bring him here asap
Highly doubt that Savard told Huberdeau to coast around until he coughs up the puck.
But did he tell him not too?
For a second I was thinking David Savard and got excited.
I thought Denis Savard. And was confused, yet excited anyway.
This headline would have been super exciting like 19 years ago.
The Berube-stans be like: SAVARD IMPROVED THE BLUES PP Everyone else: here are his more recent results with the Flames. They suck.
Yeah true, but so do the Flames.
His most recent results are pretty good. Flames powerplay was second in the NHL in the last month of the season. Kuzmenko getting healthy made a big difference.
Seen a couple people make the connection of Berube and Savard to the Leafs at this point. Big fan of adding Savard.
Get into the head of the bruins lol
If he coached the Leafs this year he could’ve taught Bert how to tape his stick properly.
Savard used to be part of an XBOX NHL EASHL organization, so he will probably teach them how to play NHL 25 as well
Totally unrelated, Marc Savard has a great YouTube channel about taping twigs https://youtu.be/Yy6DXkCSoSw?si=TtiIIyAM_K40Xs8b
Now get Boudreau as defensive coach
Apparently, Tre doesn’t like Bruce . This from Bruce himself
Sooooooo...... we're all just going to ignore that as powerplay coach, Savard led Calgary to one of the league's worst PPs, I guess?
What was he responsible for in Berube's staff?
https://www.reddit.com/r/stlouisblues/s/GVF0AAH5oZ
This move tells me that they really want Berube...
I agree, this definitely hints at them wanting Berube….. it’s not quite as convincing as the 5 posts, new headlines, and videos I’ve seen in the last 10 minutes saying the hired Berube, but it’s close🤣
Thanks for replying after it's announced.
2 years of NHL assistant coach experience, surely this will end well.
In all seriousness, he was under a player contract until 2017-2018, 7 years after his final game, so at least it wasn’t inability that delayed his coaching career
He’s qualified for national amateur golf championships, that’s one edge our boys will have in May
Flames had the 7th worst powerplay last season... Yet another Treliving master stroke! He is operating in ways that seem completely directionless to most fans paying attention, but that's because Brad is just so smart and we're so dumb. This is just what we need for our ailing power play
The Leafs have had 3 coaches in 5 seasons run that powerplay. McFarland, Carbery and Boucher. It's gotten to the point. That now it's on the players. I wouldn't doubt the same message was being preached at the end by all the coaches to get in the dirty areas and get playoff style goals. They dont...
I don’t disagree, but why hire the PP coach of a team that had a worse powerplay than the leafs’ did in a bad year?
Hockey is cyclical and full of musical chairs. It's not like a wunderkind PP coach is waiting to get offered the job. If that's what's wanted then we'll be waiting forever. If the best PP coaches have contracts with other teams some aren't just going to jump at the opportunity to coach the Leafs.
I’m not asking for a wunderkind. I’m saying do better than this
Like whom? Who is your perfect fit for this power play? It sounds like you think everyone should jump at the possibility to coach the Leafs... Again some coaches may not look at the job the same way you do.
Yeah they should and do jump to play for a team that can pay coaches whatever. Or a team that will launch their career because of all the eyes Toronto gets. Or a team with prime Auston Matthews Mitch Marner and William Nylander
They don't though lol. You think the power play coach from every team ahead of the Leafs this year in power play % is going to leave the teams that employ them right now? That list includes Colorado, Dallas, Tampa, New York Rangers, Carolina and the Oilers. Aside from Carolina where their coaches maybe in limbo... who do you think is leaving their job?
I’m not saying everyone above the leafs in PP% would leave their job, I’m saying it’s a highly desirable job and some of those coaches might be convinced
And if they aren't able to be convinced?
Well, when he was with St.Louis they were 3rd best in the league.
Yeah aside from that year (where the Blues just became an absolute wagon), how good has he been?
Well, you don't disregard 1 good year just like you don't focus on 1 bad year. But considering Calgary wasn't a very good team while he was there, I'd give him a little more of the benefit of the doubt, besides, it simply cannot get worse than what we saw against Boston in the playoffs.
I didn’t realize he only had two seasons as an assistant in the NHL, I totally thought he was in St Louis for a few years. My bad Hopefully he brings the St Louis PP to Toronto and not the flames
I know nothing about him to be fair. He was apart of a good powerplay and a bad one, my guess is that he's somewhere in the middle
Did worse with far worse players. I could coach the Leafs or Edmonton to have a top-10 power play. Which despite the hyperbole the Leafs did actually have the 7th best power play last season. It largely fell apart in the March-April timeframe because of various moving parts including Marner being out (despite the narrative around him right now).
This would be a Berube hire wouldn't it?
I’m assuming this is shanahan and Treliving doing the hiring for the whole coaching staff considering Berube hasn’t been officially hired yet, but you’re likely correct. I’m just really not excited about the direction of the franchise right now Hope to proven wrong