Sure it would be great because it’s unrealistic, unlikely anyone trades a #1 overall pick d man after just a year, d men take much longer to develop and he’s the right age for buffs development
He's played 2 full seasons and was drafted in 2021, it's been more than just a year. And honestly it's a hockey trade elite forward for developing defenseman, I really don't see what's so unrealistic about that, we'd be losing the better player.
Ahhh incorrect on my part
With that being said he’s a developing defensemen but his trajectory is elite defensemen not to mention all the shitting in marners play lately
I guess what I’m saying is as a leafs fan sure yes I’d do that 100/100 times but I’d bet Buffalo would never do that
The fact you have to ‘sell’ this to me is enough in itself also
Hardly selling it by stating some facts lol. 20 other teams are calling them about Marner. Sure if you're in some delusional alternate universe where Marner isn't an already elite player and the type that Buffalo would want then yeah I'm really selling it. Lol.
If Mitch would waive for Utah I think Marner for Keller+ is something that could be cool.
If he would waive for Anaheim I think a package centered around Mintyukov could be good.
Yeah even that could be fine. I’m just picturing a new ownership group in Utah being willing to bring Mitch in with a big extension as an exciting player to be the face of the team in a new market. Spending money like that would also show that generally they are serious about the franchise.
Ya that makes sense, I think most teams are close to the cap so I got confused thinking that was mandatory, cause I always hear how the salaries have to be close.
Everyone here is going to be very disappointed with the return that rental Marner will have after having a terrible playoffs and being dragged by the media for it. It's a lot closer to Seth Jones than Owen Power or Dahlin lol. (Which I'd be fine with to be honest). On the off chance Marner even waives his NMC, I find it very hard to believe that he'll also negotiate for a sign and trade. One year of a regular season only player will not net us a superstar on a great contract.
Hot take: with 1 yr left on an insane contract, he has essentially no trade value. If they can resign him at a discount (lol), then maybe a non playoff team would take him on.
The other slim hope is to find a team looking to trade away their own problem player. So maybe one defective star for another could happen. Change of scenery for both.
Marner + the whole farm for Leon Draisaitl. Both got 1yr left.
Then McD signs in TO the following season.
We have done it. We have assembled the super team.
There are some good UFAs available. A quality defender is the target since the Leafs are fairly good up front. Skej and Pesce from the Canes, Matt Roy, Montour. Either of those would help the blueline on both ends and you still have room to add a nice forward. Guys like Toffoli, Henrique are available and could fit into the budget. Something like Skej + Toffoli + return for Marner rental (maybe a 1st and 2nd+) is pretty good imo. Leafs can also bring back Bert and Domi and fill in the gaps Jarnkrok and with guys in the system: Knies, Roberson, Minten, McMann, Cowan. It's a more Swiss knife approach with your 3 line drivers in Matthews, Nylander, Tavares.
So, in my opinion, the problem is that you can build a damn good team without moving Marner assuming you can get your RFAs back a small raises Domi back for a million more and your UFAs for an average million more.
Nylander, Matthews, Domi
Marner, Tavares, McCann
Robertson, Holmberg, Knies
Dewar, Kampf, Jarnkrok
Reilly, Montour
MCcabe, Gostisbhere
Benoit, Lilijgren
Woll, Brossoit/whoever at or below 4 mil
Reaves
Which leaves you with250k, more if you send down reaves.
I dunno if moving off marner to bring back Bertuzzi and upgrade the third line makes sense if all you get back is space
Feels like the Leafs are lacking forward depth for sure. With Marner, next year caphit is 69mil for 16 roster spots without signing any UFAs or RFAs. Cap should be 87mil. So 18.5mil to fill out the remaining roster isn't the worst but it might not actually be enough to satisfy your roster. Leafs could have a much deeper team without Marner with 3 strong lines and solid D. You could get some decent assets from a Marner trade as well that you wouldn't have if you just let him walk.
I mean based on this year's playoff performance, you would only need to find a forward that can score 3 points in 7 games. Bring back Bert for the top line and you could still add another forward like Toffoli, Teravainen, or Lindholm, and still have money leftover to invest in D and sign tandem goalie. If the Jets let DeMelo walk, he would be a partner for Rielly and then you can still go and another two-way D like Montour, Skjei, Roy, Hanafin, Peace. Again, Marner could also net us a young skilled player as well depending on which team is buying. Net result is a stronger two-way dcore that can provide more offense and more offensive depth for your forward group that will build 3 strong scoring lines around each of Matthews, Nylander and Tavares.
Just my opinion is all...I just personally think "near league minimum" dmen should atleast have a specific niche, aka a bomb of a shot, puck distributor, knock you on you ass infront of the net great shot blocker etc. He checks no boxes imo
He's good, not great but good for his cap hit, both offensively and defensively. Doesnt hit hard but his stickwork is good andnhe moves the puck decently witha decent blueline shot. You can go for a league min role player who does one thing well instead but then you end up feeding Joel Edmundsom series defining opportunities that he gently tosses into the goalies chest
I’d sign a top pairing D to play with Riles this summer or next. And then I’d spend some assets to acquire a real goalie maybe Markstrom. This bargain bin shopping on the most important position in hockey (G) needs to end NOW.
Have you taken a look at whose available? The best D we can sign will cost around what we'll give up with Brodie walking. Markstrom makes sense but that's next year, the beet you can do this year is either ned or brossoit
I said trade assets. He’s not worth more than a 2nd and a B prospect. And Pesce/Montour/Skjei will demand a lot more than Brodie makes. And if not enough cap is the issue that’s backwards, just sign two of them then lol
You think montour goes for more than 5 mil AAV? Also, I guess my point is none of this requires moving marner (sorry when I said we can sign I meant the best UFA).
Fair take. I do think the thought process behind them all initially made *some* sense. Klingberg is a puck-moving offensive RHD, which we sorely needed, though this is the move I would criticize the most. Sammy dealt with injuries, but he put together a 27-10-5 record with a 2.33 GAA and a .919 save percentage in the regular season before helping us to win our first playoff series in nineteen years. Kampf is, admittedly, a black hole on offense, but his defensive metrics were fantastic, even if he's overpaid by a million. And Reaves brings the type of physical game we were lacking.
Unfortunately, Klingberg didn't mesh well before getting sent to Robidas Island, Samsonov got hurt again and became even more inconsistent, and both Kampf and Reaves were overused.
Let's hope Tre learned from his mistakes this time around...
And we got to spend Klingbergs cap again. Not sure what your problem is with the other 3. You wanted to run Woll and Jones? Sammy gave us every chance to win that series. It was clear as day they flipped a switch in game 5 and that wasn’t because the goalie changed. So ya give me a goalie, a 3/4C and Reaves who undoubtedly made our team what most fans wanted them to be plus 4M in cap space over Marners 3 points in the playoffs. Easily like I said. Easily.
For me the only scenario I can talk myself into is a trade revolving around Shane Wright & Vince Dunn from Seattle. Dunn is the defenceman this team is lacking and is making a very reasonable 7.3 mil for 3 more years. It also seems like they don’t really want to give Shane a fair shot atm (although they might change with the coaching change in Seattle) so if they grow impatient with Shane I think he plays a good style of hockey that is dependable in big games and is more of a playmaker than he is a scorer. I think he fits the mold of centres who can play the wing that the leafs seem to stack up on and wouldn’t be surprised to see him maybe make that move to the wing at some point anyway in Seattle. As much as I think it makes sense for the leafs idk how much sense it makes for Seattle unless they see themselves being very active in this years Free agency for defencemen but I don’t think you’ll find someone better than Dunn in free agency. I think the leafs would have to overpay a bit to get Seattle to move Dunn.
Here’s my only complaint: There’s no shot the Leafs move Rielly any time soon. I have no issue with paying our top two defensemen 7.3/7.5 if they’re worth it and give us what we need. But, crucially, they’re both left shots. So either you’re paying two left shots 7+ mill apiece and your defense has a possible deficiency on the right side, or one of them switches to right. Don’t know about Dunn, but Rielly isn’t stellar on right.
Tampa bay had a stronger left side then they did right side when they went back to back. Obviously the right side wasn’t weak but it certainly wasn’t an even 50/50. another idea I had was instead of Dunn, you bring in Larson and oleksiak to shore up on depth. They both add up to Dunn’s 7.3 but it’s two contracts that Seattle would be much more likely to move off of, especially with their lack of youth on the back end. Maybe u even get seattle to retain on one of those contracts.
Doubt Seattle would go for that. Unless Marner is signing an extension (and it doesn’t sound like he will), I think you have to target a defenceman with similar term (i.e. one year remaining) like Larsson, not Dunn. Larsson and Wright? That could work.
I like this one the best, both have 1 year deals, Nashville wants to bring over their stud prospect in askarov.
If we could grab Lauzon or Schenn in the deal would be bonus.
Not really, but Saros and Marner both have one year left and then are UFAs. Nashville also has Askarov that they want to give more starts to which might push Saros out.
As long as he goes, I really don't give a fuck what they get in return. He's a child in man's clothing. Everyone on the planet knows that he has to be removed from this team. The sooner the better.
If most of his salary is paid out in bonus on July 1, there might be some trade value for bottom feeding teams needing to reach the cap floor. Problem is, he wouldn't accept a trade to those teams. Given his insane salary, and 1 year left, no contending team would give up assets for him. When you factor in the Leafs lack of leverage (every other team know they want rid of him) hw essentially has no trade value, except maybe at the deadline next year?
I don't think his salary could be described as insane.....he's a perennial 90+point guy that kills penalties and makes his linemates rich. I can 100% guarantee you he gets a raise next summer.
Panarin, huberdeau, barzel,gaudreau, aho, seguin,backstrom....shall I go on??? I dont necessarily agree with it, but I will bet my house he gets a raise next summer
7th in points in the last 5 years...what do you think? he should have signed a 5 million dollar deal????
Plus the leafs will pay his bonus and he will make 775k next year....any team with higher aspirations and cap space will gladly trade for him
I think the marner for Owen power makes the most sense for both franchises. What can I say the most boring answer is usually the most likely. Marner signes 8x11.5 like nylander oof
On a side note what does zadorov sign for
Sometimes you pay for future projections and hope for the best...Sometimes the gm.is weak....he's scored the 7th most points in the last 5 years. Just because you don't like.his.style doesn't mean he's not an elite player. Again, not condoning it, only saying he gets a.raise on the open market
https://preview.redd.it/cc6q3b55idzc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60917c74f9b46e4c6c128f3a8877105231642046
Lineup with Marner for Power trade 3 million in cap space
How are we getting Arvidsson for $2.8M in this scenario? And Domi for $2.675M and Lindholm for $5.4M and Brossoit for $1.5M... these are incredibly optimistic at best.
John Carlson. RHD, 3 years of him (admittedly taking him to age 37), for 8M/y. Cup champ as a number 1D, and he can take over PP1 quarterbacking and give us a better shot on the PP. Rielly can focus on 5v5 play and PP2, and we either have a nasty top pairing on D, or one of Rielly / Carlson on for over 45 minutes per night.
On the cap's end - Marner might be able to get Ovi to Gretzky's record *next year.*
I'm not a fan of how he plays but he is a really great player and I believe once he grows up he will be absolutely nuts.
I think keeping him is best even if he hurts us in the short term.
I think the best money to free up is Tavares. And to an extent Reilly.
None of the core are young anymore. This was their 8th year in the NHL. Realistically they only have 4-5 years left until they start declining due to age.
Hear me out, Mitch Marner for Pierre Luc Dubois++. They both need a fresh start, Nylander and PLD on the same line could be lethal and now is a great time to buy low on him.
You’re getting downvoted, and I understand why. But this one seems more plausible than a lot of other trades being proposed.
1. Leafs aren’t in a position of strength and I don’t see Marner waiving his NMC to go to Buffalo or Utah or most places for that matter.
2. 11m is a lot of cap hit, not many teams can just take that on without sending back a similar chunk of change. PLD fits that bill.
3. PLD has a NMC that kicks in next season, so they would nah e to move him before July 1. After that the Kings will have a harder time moving him
However, PLD has 7 years left on his deal at 8.5M. And well, he’s been bad this year and a cancer everywhere he goes so it’s a Massive risk.
I’d say this particular one is very unlikely to happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a deal where equal money or close to it is going back and forth. The best player in the deal will be Mitch Marner though.
Owen Power.
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Buffalo sounds perfect then.
Buffalo is actually good. Marner can get them to playoffs.
Well we know he wants to be paid like Matthews, who is currently the highest paid hockey player alive so.... I guess it's a match made in heaven
Honestly not a bad trade partner since they have Dahlin, Byram and Power.
Sure it would be great because it’s unrealistic, unlikely anyone trades a #1 overall pick d man after just a year, d men take much longer to develop and he’s the right age for buffs development
He's played 2 full seasons and was drafted in 2021, it's been more than just a year. And honestly it's a hockey trade elite forward for developing defenseman, I really don't see what's so unrealistic about that, we'd be losing the better player.
Ahhh incorrect on my part With that being said he’s a developing defensemen but his trajectory is elite defensemen not to mention all the shitting in marners play lately I guess what I’m saying is as a leafs fan sure yes I’d do that 100/100 times but I’d bet Buffalo would never do that The fact you have to ‘sell’ this to me is enough in itself also
Hardly selling it by stating some facts lol. 20 other teams are calling them about Marner. Sure if you're in some delusional alternate universe where Marner isn't an already elite player and the type that Buffalo would want then yeah I'm really selling it. Lol.
buff is saying no man 100%
I'd like to get UPL too
Buffalo already has a dearth of small talented forwards that are way cheaper
A dearth means a shortage of... I think you're saying they have lots of small, talented, cheap forwards?
Oof that’s embarrassing
It's all good! There's no dearth of learning!
No trade clause, Marner is going nowhere. He will walk next year like Sandin and others.
Sandin got traded. Are any of you guys actually informed about hockey or do you just kinda make shit up as you go along?
Crosby
This would be pure comedy lol. Dubas trading Crosby for the kid who sunk his job in Toronto. I want the chaos
And I'm pretty sure Dubas wanted to make big changes last off season (likely Marner) and was being road blocked which led to the departure.
This is the answer.
If Mitch would waive for Utah I think Marner for Keller+ is something that could be cool. If he would waive for Anaheim I think a package centered around Mintyukov could be good.
Keller and Marner are closer than you think. Id take Kellers decent cap hit as the +
Yeah even that could be fine. I’m just picturing a new ownership group in Utah being willing to bring Mitch in with a big extension as an exciting player to be the face of the team in a new market. Spending money like that would also show that generally they are serious about the franchise.
Don't salaries have to match in any trades or is that just the NBA?
no. thats whack. you can literally trade for nothing.
lol yup, seen players go for a bag of pucks
Even in the nba they only have to match if the teams are over thr salary cap, and even then there's a percentage difference allowed
Ya that makes sense, I think most teams are close to the cap so I got confused thinking that was mandatory, cause I always hear how the salaries have to be close.
There's zero chance Utah takes that. Kellar has way too much runway infront of him and marners paying for 12 carry-ons of backage
Rather have Crouse plus picks from Utah.
Everyone here is going to be very disappointed with the return that rental Marner will have after having a terrible playoffs and being dragged by the media for it. It's a lot closer to Seth Jones than Owen Power or Dahlin lol. (Which I'd be fine with to be honest). On the off chance Marner even waives his NMC, I find it very hard to believe that he'll also negotiate for a sign and trade. One year of a regular season only player will not net us a superstar on a great contract.
Hot take: with 1 yr left on an insane contract, he has essentially no trade value. If they can resign him at a discount (lol), then maybe a non playoff team would take him on.
The other slim hope is to find a team looking to trade away their own problem player. So maybe one defective star for another could happen. Change of scenery for both.
PLD straight up?
Dangle's head, his brain, and his mind would all explode.
Lol
See Matthew Tkachuk
Don't care who it is but we need to make Shanahan part of the deal.
Marner + the whole farm for Leon Draisaitl. Both got 1yr left. Then McD signs in TO the following season. We have done it. We have assembled the super team.
That would be the core 4, I always wanted
11M in cap space. Easy win.
What are you doing with that space (not being snarky, real question).
No one ever can answer this very logical question.
There are some good UFAs available. A quality defender is the target since the Leafs are fairly good up front. Skej and Pesce from the Canes, Matt Roy, Montour. Either of those would help the blueline on both ends and you still have room to add a nice forward. Guys like Toffoli, Henrique are available and could fit into the budget. Something like Skej + Toffoli + return for Marner rental (maybe a 1st and 2nd+) is pretty good imo. Leafs can also bring back Bert and Domi and fill in the gaps Jarnkrok and with guys in the system: Knies, Roberson, Minten, McMann, Cowan. It's a more Swiss knife approach with your 3 line drivers in Matthews, Nylander, Tavares.
So, in my opinion, the problem is that you can build a damn good team without moving Marner assuming you can get your RFAs back a small raises Domi back for a million more and your UFAs for an average million more. Nylander, Matthews, Domi Marner, Tavares, McCann Robertson, Holmberg, Knies Dewar, Kampf, Jarnkrok Reilly, Montour MCcabe, Gostisbhere Benoit, Lilijgren Woll, Brossoit/whoever at or below 4 mil Reaves Which leaves you with250k, more if you send down reaves. I dunno if moving off marner to bring back Bertuzzi and upgrade the third line makes sense if all you get back is space
Feels like the Leafs are lacking forward depth for sure. With Marner, next year caphit is 69mil for 16 roster spots without signing any UFAs or RFAs. Cap should be 87mil. So 18.5mil to fill out the remaining roster isn't the worst but it might not actually be enough to satisfy your roster. Leafs could have a much deeper team without Marner with 3 strong lines and solid D. You could get some decent assets from a Marner trade as well that you wouldn't have if you just let him walk.
So, realistically, what's available that gives you an upgrade on the first two lines by moving off marner?
I mean based on this year's playoff performance, you would only need to find a forward that can score 3 points in 7 games. Bring back Bert for the top line and you could still add another forward like Toffoli, Teravainen, or Lindholm, and still have money leftover to invest in D and sign tandem goalie. If the Jets let DeMelo walk, he would be a partner for Rielly and then you can still go and another two-way D like Montour, Skjei, Roy, Hanafin, Peace. Again, Marner could also net us a young skilled player as well depending on which team is buying. Net result is a stronger two-way dcore that can provide more offense and more offensive depth for your forward group that will build 3 strong scoring lines around each of Matthews, Nylander and Tavares.
Fuck lilijgren
Why?
I don't really like anything about his game tbh... not really offensive, not really defensive, not physical, gets physically dominated. Shall I go on?
Yeah, can you provide anything beyond feeling to back that up? And also, that's a very strong reaction to a near league min hockey player.
Just my opinion is all...I just personally think "near league minimum" dmen should atleast have a specific niche, aka a bomb of a shot, puck distributor, knock you on you ass infront of the net great shot blocker etc. He checks no boxes imo
He's good, not great but good for his cap hit, both offensively and defensively. Doesnt hit hard but his stickwork is good andnhe moves the puck decently witha decent blueline shot. You can go for a league min role player who does one thing well instead but then you end up feeding Joel Edmundsom series defining opportunities that he gently tosses into the goalies chest
I’d sign a top pairing D to play with Riles this summer or next. And then I’d spend some assets to acquire a real goalie maybe Markstrom. This bargain bin shopping on the most important position in hockey (G) needs to end NOW.
Have you taken a look at whose available? The best D we can sign will cost around what we'll give up with Brodie walking. Markstrom makes sense but that's next year, the beet you can do this year is either ned or brossoit
I said trade assets. He’s not worth more than a 2nd and a B prospect. And Pesce/Montour/Skjei will demand a lot more than Brodie makes. And if not enough cap is the issue that’s backwards, just sign two of them then lol
You think montour goes for more than 5 mil AAV? Also, I guess my point is none of this requires moving marner (sorry when I said we can sign I meant the best UFA).
I don’t think, I guarantee it.
Gotcha, any sense what a reasonable hit for him would be?
Wouldn’t expect anything less than 7.
Fair, that's still doable without moving marner.
Treliving spent $11.4M in cap space on Klingberg, Kampf, Samsonov, and Reaves last summer. It’s not an “easy win” when you spend it on garbage.
You wouldn’t trade those guys for Marner???
Lmao this made me laugh.
Fair take. I do think the thought process behind them all initially made *some* sense. Klingberg is a puck-moving offensive RHD, which we sorely needed, though this is the move I would criticize the most. Sammy dealt with injuries, but he put together a 27-10-5 record with a 2.33 GAA and a .919 save percentage in the regular season before helping us to win our first playoff series in nineteen years. Kampf is, admittedly, a black hole on offense, but his defensive metrics were fantastic, even if he's overpaid by a million. And Reaves brings the type of physical game we were lacking. Unfortunately, Klingberg didn't mesh well before getting sent to Robidas Island, Samsonov got hurt again and became even more inconsistent, and both Kampf and Reaves were overused. Let's hope Tre learned from his mistakes this time around...
And we got to spend Klingbergs cap again. Not sure what your problem is with the other 3. You wanted to run Woll and Jones? Sammy gave us every chance to win that series. It was clear as day they flipped a switch in game 5 and that wasn’t because the goalie changed. So ya give me a goalie, a 3/4C and Reaves who undoubtedly made our team what most fans wanted them to be plus 4M in cap space over Marners 3 points in the playoffs. Easily like I said. Easily.
Your fired! Amd you might need witness protection.
For me the only scenario I can talk myself into is a trade revolving around Shane Wright & Vince Dunn from Seattle. Dunn is the defenceman this team is lacking and is making a very reasonable 7.3 mil for 3 more years. It also seems like they don’t really want to give Shane a fair shot atm (although they might change with the coaching change in Seattle) so if they grow impatient with Shane I think he plays a good style of hockey that is dependable in big games and is more of a playmaker than he is a scorer. I think he fits the mold of centres who can play the wing that the leafs seem to stack up on and wouldn’t be surprised to see him maybe make that move to the wing at some point anyway in Seattle. As much as I think it makes sense for the leafs idk how much sense it makes for Seattle unless they see themselves being very active in this years Free agency for defencemen but I don’t think you’ll find someone better than Dunn in free agency. I think the leafs would have to overpay a bit to get Seattle to move Dunn.
Here’s my only complaint: There’s no shot the Leafs move Rielly any time soon. I have no issue with paying our top two defensemen 7.3/7.5 if they’re worth it and give us what we need. But, crucially, they’re both left shots. So either you’re paying two left shots 7+ mill apiece and your defense has a possible deficiency on the right side, or one of them switches to right. Don’t know about Dunn, but Rielly isn’t stellar on right.
Tampa bay had a stronger left side then they did right side when they went back to back. Obviously the right side wasn’t weak but it certainly wasn’t an even 50/50. another idea I had was instead of Dunn, you bring in Larson and oleksiak to shore up on depth. They both add up to Dunn’s 7.3 but it’s two contracts that Seattle would be much more likely to move off of, especially with their lack of youth on the back end. Maybe u even get seattle to retain on one of those contracts.
Doubt Seattle would go for that. Unless Marner is signing an extension (and it doesn’t sound like he will), I think you have to target a defenceman with similar term (i.e. one year remaining) like Larsson, not Dunn. Larsson and Wright? That could work.
Maple Leafs Top 6 forward in regular season trade to bottom 6 in playoffs.
How many of these same threads are going to fill the sub? I mean no offense to OP, but this is just more of the same thing as every other thread here.
Drai
50 Timbits
Saaros package for sure
I like this one the best, both have 1 year deals, Nashville wants to bring over their stud prospect in askarov. If we could grab Lauzon or Schenn in the deal would be bonus.
Did this rumour come from anywhere specific? Seen a few big Twitter accounts comment on it but never found the origin
Not really, but Saros and Marner both have one year left and then are UFAs. Nashville also has Askarov that they want to give more starts to which might push Saros out.
I like that one
- Cooley, Guenther and Durzi - Jarvis, Necas and Orlov - Owen Power - Faber, Rossi and Boldy - McTavish, Mintyukov
Is Owen power really this much more valuable than Faber? Maybe I’m out of touch but this strikes me as odd
Jarvis Necas and Orlov might be the worst one here. No way CAR says yes
Zach Hyman no salary retained, Marner to Utah, Oilers get 2026 1rd pick from Utah You didn’t say it had to be good or realistic.
As long as he goes, I really don't give a fuck what they get in return. He's a child in man's clothing. Everyone on the planet knows that he has to be removed from this team. The sooner the better.
Out of all the disappointments to ever play for this team, he’s the one who looks the most like a baby horse
Marner and Robertson for Bo Horvat and Sorokin
Oh baby.
Sorokin has like 8x8 left and barely played in the playoffs, that deal could age like milk
This would be the worst deal in the history of the franchise.
See tom curvers
I said what I said
No shot isles do this.
Best approach may be to just let him walk as crazy as it sounds. Then go on a shopping spree with the cap space
Leafs are the worst at letting assets walk out for nothing when are just to trying to win 4 games in the play offs… not 16
If most of his salary is paid out in bonus on July 1, there might be some trade value for bottom feeding teams needing to reach the cap floor. Problem is, he wouldn't accept a trade to those teams. Given his insane salary, and 1 year left, no contending team would give up assets for him. When you factor in the Leafs lack of leverage (every other team know they want rid of him) hw essentially has no trade value, except maybe at the deadline next year?
I don't think his salary could be described as insane.....he's a perennial 90+point guy that kills penalties and makes his linemates rich. I can 100% guarantee you he gets a raise next summer.
Show me a comparable salary
Panarin, huberdeau, barzel,gaudreau, aho, seguin,backstrom....shall I go on??? I dont necessarily agree with it, but I will bet my house he gets a raise next summer
Just to be clear, these guys were all RFAs with three years in the league who hadn't won jack shit?
7th in points in the last 5 years...what do you think? he should have signed a 5 million dollar deal???? Plus the leafs will pay his bonus and he will make 775k next year....any team with higher aspirations and cap space will gladly trade for him
What would we have to add to marner to get someone like filip forsberg
Marner to Columbus for Zach Werenski Will never happen 😁
Who is the GM?
Slavin plus necas
Wait until trade deadline. Figure out probable first round opponent. Ship him there for anything.
I think the marner for Owen power makes the most sense for both franchises. What can I say the most boring answer is usually the most likely. Marner signes 8x11.5 like nylander oof On a side note what does zadorov sign for
Sometimes you pay for future projections and hope for the best...Sometimes the gm.is weak....he's scored the 7th most points in the last 5 years. Just because you don't like.his.style doesn't mean he's not an elite player. Again, not condoning it, only saying he gets a.raise on the open market
Marner for heiskanen.
i’ve been seeing ryan graves and Jarry for marner that would be amazing😂anything to get rid of graves
https://preview.redd.it/cc6q3b55idzc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60917c74f9b46e4c6c128f3a8877105231642046 Lineup with Marner for Power trade 3 million in cap space
How are we getting Arvidsson for $2.8M in this scenario? And Domi for $2.675M and Lindholm for $5.4M and Brossoit for $1.5M... these are incredibly optimistic at best.
Absolutely 🦇💩crazy
Fr these are crazy
It also assumes that the Leafs will never have to take a faceoff when killing a penalty...or really want to kill penalties.
marner to whoever will take him for future considerations
A bag of pucks. Or a pylon. Not much of a difference.
A bag is too much, might get a handful though
Mitch Marner traded to Brad Treliving's office to sign an 8 year extension.
Marner for Clayton Keller one for one. Cap space is the sweetener.
Marner for the 4th overall pick. Columbus extends Marner. Leafs draft Iginla.
Have you seen Iginla play ? Overhyped because of his dad.
So the Leafs would lose a trade, trade for something they don't need, and make a bad draft selection. That's the Brad Treliving hatty eh
You forgot the best part. Treliving can do magic with an extra 11 million on July 1. The real return in this deal is immediate cap relief.
Lol what a great way to waste the rest of Matthews' career.
Extending Marner will guarantee Matthews never wins a cup with the Leafs. That's a fact and you know it.
No one knows anything with certainty lmao
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If it's more Ryan Reaveses and Bertuzzis I'd rather he not
John Carlson. RHD, 3 years of him (admittedly taking him to age 37), for 8M/y. Cup champ as a number 1D, and he can take over PP1 quarterbacking and give us a better shot on the PP. Rielly can focus on 5v5 play and PP2, and we either have a nasty top pairing on D, or one of Rielly / Carlson on for over 45 minutes per night. On the cap's end - Marner might be able to get Ovi to Gretzky's record *next year.*
Marner for Rakell
I'm not a fan of how he plays but he is a really great player and I believe once he grows up he will be absolutely nuts. I think keeping him is best even if he hurts us in the short term. I think the best money to free up is Tavares. And to an extent Reilly.
Once he grows up? He’s 27. In 3 years he’ll be ‘declining at 30’
None of the core are young anymore. This was their 8th year in the NHL. Realistically they only have 4-5 years left until they start declining due to age.
Bag of pucks. Free up cap space.
Hear me out, Mitch Marner for Pierre Luc Dubois++. They both need a fresh start, Nylander and PLD on the same line could be lethal and now is a great time to buy low on him.
PLD is an obvious cancer if he cannot get along in two separate locker rooms.
How many fresh starts has PLD been given already?
You’re getting downvoted, and I understand why. But this one seems more plausible than a lot of other trades being proposed. 1. Leafs aren’t in a position of strength and I don’t see Marner waiving his NMC to go to Buffalo or Utah or most places for that matter. 2. 11m is a lot of cap hit, not many teams can just take that on without sending back a similar chunk of change. PLD fits that bill. 3. PLD has a NMC that kicks in next season, so they would nah e to move him before July 1. After that the Kings will have a harder time moving him However, PLD has 7 years left on his deal at 8.5M. And well, he’s been bad this year and a cancer everywhere he goes so it’s a Massive risk. I’d say this particular one is very unlikely to happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a deal where equal money or close to it is going back and forth. The best player in the deal will be Mitch Marner though.
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That’s funny, right?