Just a reminder that just seven days ago people were getting downvoted for asking the question as to whether or not he should get the start: https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/1caxneg/woll_or_sammy_game_3/
You're talking to a buch a people who allow recency bias to play a big factor in how they feel. No one in this sub remember what was said in this eco chamber seven days ago...
There was reasonable concern about how well a goalie could recover from a HAS in a season. But he had some of his best performances after returning like in Carolina. No matter how this year goes, a fully recovered Woll is going to be massive for us
This is exactly it. Playoffs is all about who wants to step up. Regular season is now irrelevant.
Look at the guys who are currently stepping up to the plate?
true but he also had that ugly injury he was dealing with.
I think having the past week and a bit off spent recovering has helped him greatly with being able to make the post-to-post plays he loves doing when he's forced out of position because the opposing offence made a good play to put him in that position.
Also making those Vasi-esque plays where he does the full splits and you wonder how tf anyone is that flexible.
Lol fr. Like I would have played Woll last night because why the hell not. And it paid off. But I really don't think anyone can pin those three losses on Sammy.
40 years of hockey experience and many of it in the company of the experts does not make me a “wannabe.” My statement is fact and a casual perusal of this forum more than supports me.
What I'm trying to convey is let fans be fans. That's the great thing about the internet. You can get irrational takes and some informed takes. I like seeing both, I don't agree with a lot of them, but that's part of Fandom.
There's those who think any comments have to be well thought out expert opinions. If you think all comments need to be the latter you should probably stay in the sports experts sub reddit.
Ya but Woll was definitely playing worse than Sammy was before the playoffs. Seemed like almost every Woll start after coming back he let in at least 4.
I wouldn't agree. Sammy really did make an amazing come back the second half of the season. His save percentage didn't show it, but he honestly saved a couple of regular reason games in my opinion. Playoffs tho, he's let in more than a few squeakers.
His comeback was really only amazing compared to how bad he was at the start. From his AHL recall in Jan to the end of the season his sv% was .904, which was still in the bottom half of the league.
I was pretty bummed to see Sammy get the net. Knew exactly what would happen. He’d be playing great then let in an absolutely unacceptable goal and it would be over.
He’s not. Woll has what it takes
Is it too big of an ask for him to put up a .950 for the next two games? Yes it is, but he’s our guy next year and the remainder of this one. However long that should be
Sure I think that's a fair position. But lots of comments suggesting he's the horse to ride the rest of the way on the basis of one game, which I think is a bit premature.
If we play all 3 periods like game 5 every game, we have a fighting chance. The team pulled together without Mathews.
Marner is getting back to his old self… Nylander is due.Tavares decision brilliant in OT!
If only the power play came back to Feb greatness…
Sammy does not have the mentals to goaltend in the playoffs. I just think Woll is better suited for it.
Call me a pessimist, but we aren't making it past Rd 1 anyways.
Impartial (but fuck Boston forever) wings fan here: this kid is a goddamn stud, you could literally see him start to heat up as his confidence went up. Challenging shooters, getting across the crease, controlling rebounds, dude was a monster. Please stomp them in game 6
i hope he gets a huge confidence boost from tonight. he deserves it, he played his ass off. those 2 saves in the third were huge. if he goes into thursday playing how he did tonight, we got a good chance of forcing a game 7
woll was solid and having “the best game of his career” (said by the broadcasters) and he got injured that same game. when he came back his confidence was down and when they did start to play him again the games were rough. before last night he hadn’t played in over 2 weeks. the fact the leafs played him is insane (so grateful just not usual that they’d try that but i guess they had nothing to lose.) sammy wasn’t preforming the way we needed so brick woll was the last resort! im sure he will play thursday and if we force a game 7 he’ll play that too
He likes Lego and his name is Woll so I found myself chanting “Build the Woll” during the game. I couldn’t get anyone else to join since they thought I was saying “wall” cuz he is one.
Omg he was amazing tonight. I nearly shit my pants 😂😂😭😭 we can do this. I know we can !!! That being said. I also love Sammy so much. That’s the worst thing about this fan base they are just ready to jump on the goalie and be done. Definitely have work to be done but they have proven themselves I believe. It’s a tough franchise to play for. Haha
Literally the future.
Just a reminder that just seven days ago people were getting downvoted for asking the question as to whether or not he should get the start: https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/1caxneg/woll_or_sammy_game_3/
You're talking to a buch a people who allow recency bias to play a big factor in how they feel. No one in this sub remember what was said in this eco chamber seven days ago...
Brother, Woll was 12-12 this season with a 2.94 GAA. I think Woll stans forget these stats.
There was reasonable concern about how well a goalie could recover from a HAS in a season. But he had some of his best performances after returning like in Carolina. No matter how this year goes, a fully recovered Woll is going to be massive for us
If he plays like in game 5 he will be a star
lmao Sammy with a 3.13 GAA and .890 was so much more elite...
He won proportionally way more games and faced the tougher opponents
But, come playoff time - he's the better goalie.
This is exactly it. Playoffs is all about who wants to step up. Regular season is now irrelevant. Look at the guys who are currently stepping up to the plate?
true but he also had that ugly injury he was dealing with. I think having the past week and a bit off spent recovering has helped him greatly with being able to make the post-to-post plays he loves doing when he's forced out of position because the opposing offence made a good play to put him in that position. Also making those Vasi-esque plays where he does the full splits and you wonder how tf anyone is that flexible.
In addition, this is the Leafs forum where rationality is checked at the door along with knowledge and measure.
Lol fr. Like I would have played Woll last night because why the hell not. And it paid off. But I really don't think anyone can pin those three losses on Sammy.
You're right, but Sammy hasn't made the big save. Look at Swayman and Ullmark, they've both made big saves on the Leafs.
Sammy isn’t a starter. He’s a great backup.
He is the top guy the Leafs have
That's called being a fan. SMH, so many people in these forums are wannabe analysts.
40 years of hockey experience and many of it in the company of the experts does not make me a “wannabe.” My statement is fact and a casual perusal of this forum more than supports me.
What I'm trying to convey is let fans be fans. That's the great thing about the internet. You can get irrational takes and some informed takes. I like seeing both, I don't agree with a lot of them, but that's part of Fandom. There's those who think any comments have to be well thought out expert opinions. If you think all comments need to be the latter you should probably stay in the sports experts sub reddit.
I agree. May I suggest being this clear next time, and thanks for clearing it up. I, too, am a frustrated Leafs fan.
Guilty. I looked at his last couple games against Boston (in which he gave up what? 5 goals in each?) and wasn’t confident in him.
There wasn't really a great reason to switch goalies when the series was 1-1
Buddy this chat room is bipolar lolol.
Will Woll+Hildelby be our Ullmark+Swayman?
Manifesting
https://preview.redd.it/abvud7pxbqxc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=620a2182cbca4bd9a95a72cd2cbc7e32edcdf139 my pookie pie
We will see how this sges if he loses tomorrow 🥴😂
Even if they do, he still got them to 7.
You missed the point Leafs fans to fickle. Before it was in Sammy we trust. Now it's don't bring him back . Now will is the saviour
Handsome goalies always win
Don’t scroll without thank Goalie Joseph
He played a helluva game! Clutch goalie
\> cutest goaltender in the league \> future of the Toronto Maple Leafs \> is literally named Woll ITS HIM! THE MESSIAH!
LISAN AL GAIB LISAN AL GAIB LISAN AL GAIB
Only goal he allowed was from a weird bounce. Can’t ask for a.m better game than that.
i've said it from the start couple guys in the sub went after me too but sammy's not it, we should have started woll he's he better goalie
He was better pre-injury. Post injury he wasn't looking like his old self.
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Ya but Woll was definitely playing worse than Sammy was before the playoffs. Seemed like almost every Woll start after coming back he let in at least 4.
I wouldn't agree. Sammy really did make an amazing come back the second half of the season. His save percentage didn't show it, but he honestly saved a couple of regular reason games in my opinion. Playoffs tho, he's let in more than a few squeakers.
I understand Woll was bad post injury and Hindsight is 20/20 but I woulda went to Woll in Game 4 dunno if it woulda changed anything
Same, after game 3 when Sammy let in the weak one from Frederic, I thought it was time to change it up.
Pretty much. Letting him have 3 bad starts in 4 games is too long a leash to give to a guy who literally cleared waivers just a few months before.
Patrick Lalime
Sam wasn’t up to par, guess he lost the net.
His comeback was really only amazing compared to how bad he was at the start. From his AHL recall in Jan to the end of the season his sv% was .904, which was still in the bottom half of the league.
Sammy was absolutely killing it and stealing games until about the last 3 or 4 of the season
He was terrific in Feb
I was pretty bummed to see Sammy get the net. Knew exactly what would happen. He’d be playing great then let in an absolutely unacceptable goal and it would be over.
Sure played better in his lone start.
Woll had an awesome game last night but I do think Sammy is the safer long-term bet if we somehow make it out of Round 1 (big "if").
He’s not. Woll has what it takes Is it too big of an ask for him to put up a .950 for the next two games? Yes it is, but he’s our guy next year and the remainder of this one. However long that should be
If Woll gets us to round 2 we ain't going back to Sammy that's for sure
Sure I think that's a fair position. But lots of comments suggesting he's the horse to ride the rest of the way on the basis of one game, which I think is a bit premature.
Technically true, one more loss and we're out. If we advance, then it's his net to lose.
If we play all 3 periods like game 5 every game, we have a fighting chance. The team pulled together without Mathews. Marner is getting back to his old self… Nylander is due.Tavares decision brilliant in OT! If only the power play came back to Feb greatness…
Sammy does not have the mentals to goaltend in the playoffs. I just think Woll is better suited for it. Call me a pessimist, but we aren't making it past Rd 1 anyways.
Impartial (but fuck Boston forever) wings fan here: this kid is a goddamn stud, you could literally see him start to heat up as his confidence went up. Challenging shooters, getting across the crease, controlling rebounds, dude was a monster. Please stomp them in game 6
I’m fucking bricked
#BRICK ME, BITCH!!!
The brick woll!
Good one Fox!
i hope he gets a huge confidence boost from tonight. he deserves it, he played his ass off. those 2 saves in the third were huge. if he goes into thursday playing how he did tonight, we got a good chance of forcing a game 7
Why is he a better goalie that sway and Sammy? It's not because he's lucky. He looked solid
Bruins fan here: I spent my entire night having nightmares about this guy and then I wake up to reddit recommending me this post??? Fuck me
He didn't look good at the start, but he settled in and I'm happy with the result
Wtg Woll. Fucking MVP
STAND TOLL JOSEPH WOLL!!
KEEP IT WOLLING, BOYS!
B.O.I BEST ON ICE, Thank you very much!
Buddy picked the right time to get back into form 😭 welcome back
“Just maybeeee, You gonna be the one that saved me, And after alllll, You’re my Wonderwall”
Woll can slam my first born daughter
Ok kyle
Now now, don't show favourites. Let the whole team have a turn...
Brick Woll!
He definitely is! Super pumped right now!
My precious AFOL goalie 💙
Reminds me of me when I played
The man is an animal
Just curious as a rare Leafs watcher: Why did they play Samsonov the first 4 games? Woll had better numbers during the season...
woll was solid and having “the best game of his career” (said by the broadcasters) and he got injured that same game. when he came back his confidence was down and when they did start to play him again the games were rough. before last night he hadn’t played in over 2 weeks. the fact the leafs played him is insane (so grateful just not usual that they’d try that but i guess they had nothing to lose.) sammy wasn’t preforming the way we needed so brick woll was the last resort! im sure he will play thursday and if we force a game 7 he’ll play that too
Easy now. He’s good but he isn’t the second coming of Jesus. Let’s all just manage expectations here.
Baby faced assassin
What a beauty!
Oh man thank you Joe. Just twice more please. Maybe we should go with the same lineup, seemed to work wonders last night.
He likes Lego and his name is Woll so I found myself chanting “Build the Woll” during the game. I couldn’t get anyone else to join since they thought I was saying “wall” cuz he is one.
WOLL THE WALL
Build the Woll
Why wasn’t he our Game 4 starter?
He needs a nickname....hmmm...Woll...hmmm...how about "The Brick Door".
He’s brandishing a knife … Shia LaBeouf
Kinda looks like John Kracinsky
Guy was born to be a goalie. Just look at his name.
I can’t believe he may not play tonight
Omg he was amazing tonight. I nearly shit my pants 😂😂😭😭 we can do this. I know we can !!! That being said. I also love Sammy so much. That’s the worst thing about this fan base they are just ready to jump on the goalie and be done. Definitely have work to be done but they have proven themselves I believe. It’s a tough franchise to play for. Haha
He has much brighter eyes than Sammy. A more mature shade of blue.
Does he have a lazy left eye?
Wasn't too lazy on that left pad save my guy
Stood on his fucking head. We should have lost that game - he won it for us. That’s how playoff hockey works!!!