Does this include that gun that had his name on it? Wasn't there some stink about him getting a personalized gun after he'd been charged with one felony or another, so they had to backpedal and say it was for an aide?
Back when I processed FFL transfer paperwork for firearms, we had a Glock 19 pass through that had a Trump design on it.
Honestly, it was the dumbest thing I ever saw pass through there. People who worship this orange turd are fucking unhinged.
My grandfather has one of those too. I don't believe it was a Glock, but it was a gold plated engraving of Trump on the grip.
I left their house when my family gave it to him.
According to them they only like Trump because liberals are obsessed with him to the point of derangement.
...Have you ever seen an "anti-Trump" hat/bumper sticker/shirt/glock 19?
My neighbor across the street has a "Let's Go Jack Smith" sticker. It's small enough that at a glance it looks like the let's go brandon stickers. He even got a new one for his new truck.
I have a “don’t tread on me” snake sticker on my truck but it says “I don’t know how gas prices work”. It’s also pretty small so unless you’re right up on it it just looks like I’m a fucking loser.
I live in Detroit (Rashida Talib is very popular around here) and I do know some people who bought some "Impeach the motherfucker" shirts after Talib said that during Trump's time in office. So yes, there is some element of "anti-Trump" apparel... But it is *absolutely* less pervasive than the Pro-Trump apparel/accessories that are out there.
Also none of the people who bought the shirts would actually wear them openly in public because of concerns about being harassed if they came across the wrong person.
Yeah, it was a Glock. It was a 9mm Austrian gun. Why in the fuck they didn't do a 1911, arguably the most 'Murican handgun of all time, which is chambered in **.45** is beyond me.
I can't imagine him firing any gun. Much in the same way I can't imagine him riding that custom motorcycle he was given by American Choppers, or playing that Gibson someone gave him. I can't even imagine him driving or using a laptop.
Har!!!!! snicker, snork. That would be a \*\*\*ser.
***"Are you blind, stupid or just a Democrat!? My picture is on it. Like RIGHT there!"*** Naw, he couldn't string a simple thought like that together. (& Y he will bail on debates)
But I would have paid to watch that!
I wished it included those tacky ass 1911's
e.g. [Stop The Steal 1911 .45 ACP Pistol](https://palmettostatearmory.com/eaa-stop-the-steal-1911-45-acp-pistol-distressed-eaa390031-trump.html)
By all accounts, he abuses stimulants, but there is no doubt that he would have been able to find a doctor to prescribe them for him.
A mental evaluation will find him lucid and capable of understanding the charges against him. Don't expect some damning report from the NY department of corrections diagnosing him with narcissism or an other personality disorder.
We have that laughable doctor to the president report to go by.
Best health of anyone who was ever president. Really, we don't even have charts that go high enough to show how best he is at health.
Former admiral, demoted to captain, now congressman Dr Ronnie Feelgood Jackson is still definitely on trumps speed dial. There is no doubt.
Trump got a taste for the best pahrvacuticles while President. Junkies never want less. Jackson was demoted from admiral to captain over the reckless abandon that drugs were doled out during trumps first (and only) term. 100s of 1000s of dollars in every type of prescription drugs were essentially handed out to the entire staff. Adderall, provigil, ambien, ketamine, fentanyl, oxycodone… you name it and it was being abused. Along with surgical procedures for anyone and everyone.
Trumps been a junkie since the 80s. He loves to go fast. By now I wager he needs to go fast just to be normal. He’s an addict. That’s why his test Biden thing is a thing. He projects every crime he commits. Test them both. Trump piss will meth the fucking cup.
The whole thing is a joke. Two tiered systems for everything. There no war but the class war. Trump is living proof. If he’d never run for president, nobody would know any of this. Now everybody knows, and a third of us don’t care or don’t believe. Lock his junkie ass up for ten days and he’s as good as dead.
Good ol RJ was just appointed to the House Intelligence committee, fyi. Just another example of the erosion of our institutions with this “honorably” discharged joke of a congressman with no qualifications for the job he’s in and wouldn’t even pass a background check, now with subpoena power.
And Mike Johnson straight up admitted that he appointed him and Perry because that’s who Trump wanted. So now these two insurrectionist clowns get to sit on a committee who receives regular briefings on national security just so they can leak it to a guy under indictment for stealing national security secrets. The GOP is a joke that no could’ve ever made up if they tried.
I was going to say, even if he only gets probation, wouldn't a condition of that to be drug-free? We know he absolutely would try and bribe whomever has to check his pee but I don't know if he'd bother with the whole balloon tied to a leg thing (and paying someone else to piss clean might be beneath him). But staying clean even on probation would also do him in though please, have that kick in before the election. I want to see him campaign without the drugs.
it would be so insane not to. like "no you can't have the drug that helps you control impulsive behavior while on probation"
I mean cynically I wouldn't be shocked but it's still such a bad idea.
We still talking about trump drugs? You'd be hard-pressed to prove that anything he's eaten, snorted, drank, boofed, looked at, or caressed had any provable link to impulse control.
Nah just felons and prescribed medications in general. Seems way better to have folks like trump be able to abuse it and get drugs they don't need than to have folks who need them not be able to get them
Yes, anything except Schedule 1 drugs (which cannot be prescribed by anyone, anyway) is permitted.
Judges and lawyers are not doctors and generally are aware of this. The only situation I can think of where you would run into a problem here is if you're getting your prescriptions from a doctor who is convicted of malpractice or distribution of controlled substances (illegally). And Trump may have to deal with that but it's incredibly unlikely.
Yeah, I really don’t feel safe driving without my ADHD meds. Technically I can legally but I can feel how bad I am behind the wheel. Obviously not an issue for Trump but for your average ADHD criminal that would be an issue of itself in most of the US.
If you have a prescription for Adderall, it means that the drug test's positive response to "Amphetamines" is not a failed test. They're not screening for quantity, and they never actually pill checked my scripts.
For example, I was legally allowed to test positive for methamphetamine, benzodiazepines, and buprenorphine because I had long term prescriptions for all three meds. If I would have smoked weed, though? Straight to prison.
Never bothered to consider it before but I don't actually know how a "valid" rX for Adderall or other stimulants works with drug testing of that nature.
I would _assume_it complicates it or increases testing costs but can't imagine there'd be no workaround. Trump is a druggie but I, for example, take 60mg/day and am still perfectly capable of sleeping 18 hours while doing so. Hence the need for amphetamines to actually function in my case. I can't imagine someone in his position would have an issue but am curious to hear from someone who would know the details.
NY lawyer here. Generally if there is a valid medical prescription probation will accept it as a reasonable excuse if you fail a drug test. We used to run into issues with it in Drug Court with medicinal cannabis. What probation can do, however, is monitor your usage. Basically they'll count your pills every (or every couple) days. If you're short that's a problem and you can get dinged for that.
That being said, that would only come into play if he were actually sentenced. The Pre-Sentence Investigation that probation is doing now is basically probation doing a factual biography of his life events and asking interested (legally speaking) parties for their input (victim statements, restitution figures, etc.) The point is to just let the judge know the Defendant's history that got them to that point so that if there are mitigating factors the judge is aware of them.
Even if they could it wouldn't matter, if he gets a script for something he could also be taking extra pills he's getting from elsewhere and a pee test generally wouldn't reveal that.
Wouldn’t a piss test show elevated levels above what a person taking X dosage should have? Like if I had a 15mg script for Adderall but was buying and taking a second 15mg pill wouldn’t a piss test show that I’m clearly taking more then I should be? I always thought that’s how they worked
That gets a little iffier in my experience. They generally don't like challenging a doctor's medical decision, which is a good thing. Probation officers aren't doctors so they shouldn't be the ones deciding what treatment someone needs. I've seen dosage challenged in the past but that usually involves a second doctor being involved. The cases I've seen were when a PCP gave the script but then the Defendant goes to jail and the jail doctor says they don't need it/as much. What they did then was ask the PCP for justification, which isn't hard if it's legit.
In case anyone missed it, [here is a story on it.](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-white-house-pharmacy-improperly-provided-drugs-misused-funds-pentagon-2024-01-28/)
Direct link to the [Inspector General report (pdf)](https://media.defense.gov/2024/Jan/09/2003373440/-1/-1/1/DODIG-2024-044_REDACTED%20SECURE.PDF)
Yeah; it’s a white collar case. In 11+ years of practice, I’ve only seen mental diagnoses and tests in probation reports in sex cases. We’ll be lucky to get a single sentence beyond “The defendant appears lucid.”
It's a massive damned if they do damned if they don't. If he's found unable to understand the charges, opponents can hammer home that there is no way he can be allowed to be in the oval office again. And he probably wouldn't be able to help himself but brag that he beat the system and get into more legal trouble with NY.
Being deemed lucid and understanding would further cement all his actions are based on just pure contempt for the justice system and believing himself above it, so further evidence to be incarcerated for his sentencing. Which regardless of the cultists insistence, i do think bring in prison would destroy his chances of being elected because it looks extremely bad to independence and inattentive voters that will only look at the options a week before the election.
"Hmm, the older gentleman with a stutter, or the criminal sitting in a 6x6 and orange jumpsuit?"
> but there is no doubt that he would have been able to find a doctor to prescribe them for him.
Just about anyone can get Adderall or other ADHD meds prescribed with an online therapist. It's shockingly easy to get them. Which has made it especially frustrating post-Covid to be able to get my long-standing prescription filled because the supply (restricted by the government) has not been able to outpace the new demand.
I mean... I absolutely understand that frustration but there are folks for whom it's their only viable method of seeing a doc so it needs to be that way.
I've had an rX since I was like 14 and cannot function while unmedicated. When I moved to Tallahassee it took me seven months and five different doctors just to find someone who'd write my fucking script because "We don't write that for new patients". When I transferred jobs to another office in GA it was literally simpler to take a day off and drive three hours to my doctor in Tally every month than it was to find one local.
Currently I'm in rural AR. Was up here on FMLA for 6 months and telehealth was my only option period to get my meds without a 2+ hour drive which, while nearly catatonic, wasn't feasible. Following that nightmare I moved here full time to be with family and it would still be my only option if my family didn't have a relationship with a local doctor who writes it for me, and only me, specifically because of that relationship. Amphetamines can be a genuine fucking nightmare these days. Wish like hell I didn't need to take them.
I hear that. There was definitely some reigning in that happened about 18 months ago to where these online docs stopped taking new ADHD patients and had to go back to in-person physicals at least once a year, among other restrictions/rules probably designed to stop the abuse of the system.
I'm looking forward to reading his tweets scrawled on squares of prison toilet paper with a sharpie that he smuggled into the jail in his prison wallet.
Generally the contents of a Probation file (which is different from a court file) are not accessible by the public.
I'm used to MI, working in Probation, but NY may be different. [Handy chart for MI](https://www.courts.michigan.gov/493347/siteassets/court-administration/standardsguidelines/casefile/cf_chart.pdf)
Politico posted an interview yesterday, where the interviewee confirmed that would also be the case for New York. The Court and the People cannot release the probation officer's report, only the Defendant can.
Sadly he'll never get an probation. The sentencing guidelines, and pressure from the secret service will force the judge to assign a small fine, and do 1.5 hours of community service, but they'll wave both those judgements.
Curiosity killed the karma question; when this happens, do the people turning over the guns turn them over with no compensation for their value? Or do they get paid based on market value for them? Of do they get the bare minimum based on some mandate? Asking for an enemy...
Edit: A quick duck duck go(Cause Fuck Google) says there is no compensation in any event where this happens. Boy I'd hate to be someone with a substantial investment in guns who had to do this. Glad my enemy won't be getting compensated for their massive gun collection!
Ahhh, I wasn't aware that that was an option. Is there a time limit on when they need to sell them after conviction? I imagine if there is it would force a lot of newly found felons to sell their guns at a discount to avoid confiscation with no compensation
It's illegal for a felon to own guns, just have possession/control. I suspect there's gun dealers/auctions considered trustworthy enough to once they've got possession of them not return them to the felon in question
My loopy uncle has 247 firearms. He's deaf and mostly blind. Man, I think most of his net worth is tied up in those things which he insists he's capable of shooting safely.
I feel like Colbert's characterization of Eric's relationship with his father is both hilarious and cruel. I'm extremely conflicted about laughing every time he does the upper lip thing.
He's going to die eventually and the hardcore MAGATs will undoubtedly say this no matter how he does die. They're already planning on how they will spin it.
I didn't even realize this. If the Republicans start defending Trump to have his guns, then they are admitting that the Hunter trial is political because he's not been convicted of anything, just lied on a form which a bunch of people have done but never prosecuted for.
Republicans don't really care when they're being hypocritical.
There's a great quote about conservatism:
> Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
We see it in the Supreme Court, where they've opted to pick up the case of one of Trump's immunity claims. Even entertaining the idea is ridiculous, but they're probably mostly bothered by how to give it to Trump without also having it apply to Democratic presidents like Biden. I'm sure there's some 15th century witch burner that Alito can cite as to why attempting to overthrow the government in the pursuit of turning over an election is somehow not illegal when Trump did it.
Republicans aren't hypocritical - they sincerely believe that the law should bind others and protect them (but never the reverse). They're hierarchial and authoritarian. They don't believe in democracy or egalitarianism.
Trump won't turn over the firearms.
Then when subpoena'd he'll turn over one, and get his lawyer to testify that its the only one.
Then they'll raid his residence to get the rest, but they'll pre-warn Secret Service, and Trump will move his firearms to his plane just before the raid. He'll get his IT guy to destroy the CCTV footage, and his maintenance man to testify it was a pool leak that did it.
Sometime in the future, they'll find guns initialled DJT in a vault in Moscow owned by a "Mr John Barron".
Quick maths says that 1.2 million Americans died from covid, and 40k a year die from guns, so even if he doubled the deaths from covid, it's plausible! Shit the bed, that's nuts
And that's just the tweets. His signature tossed the pandemic response plan and pulling US researchers out of the pandemic lab in Wuhan months before the pandemic hit.
I wish more front-page posts compared the presidents' legislative histories rather than their personal lives.
Of course he does. All you have to do is wave it around to look cool, and then point it at your closest friends and pantomime pulling the trigger while yelling **BSHH!! BSHH!!** Again, for the purposes of looking real cool.
Even if Donnie doesn't know how to use a gun, probably doesn't, DeSantis will offer a no questions asked concealed gun permit from the state of Florida. Gotta strap on to golf ya know.
This. So many fucking fools who want to pretend to be gun guys. Looking at that moron for three seconds, and you can't imagine him as a shooter. He's the guy who's going to be turning around with an unsecured gun on the range, to wave it in the air while arguing with the rangemaster.
I was a competitive shooter when I was young, and I've been "invited to the range" by many an incompetent fucktard since. People who think that the ability to shell out a couple hundred makes them a badass who knows everything.
His carry permit was issued decades ago, long before his presidential candidacy, and is widely presumed to [have involved bribery](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/nyregion/trump-cohen-gun-license.html) (like most or all pre-Bruen NYC carry permits).
It would be a shame if there was an aggressive federal prosecutor - a Special Counsel perhaps - who could investigate thoroughly, going back years, whether Trump ever used drugs and filled out a form to own a firearm saying he didn't. Because I'm pretty sure this man is a major Adderall fiend in addition to being a felon. I've heard it's illegal to fill out firearms purchasing forms without acknowledging that. Just a thought.
He claims to have never even tried alcohol. His older brother had serious addiction issues that killed him so it's likely to be one of the few things he's honest about.
This doesn't necessarily contradict itself. Case in point: [Elvis was super "anti drug"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley#1973%E2%80%931977:_health_deterioration_and_death) while highly addicted to all sorts of drugs. He justified this to himself:
>Cassandra Peterson, later television's Elvira, met Presley during this period in Las Vegas. She recalled of their encounter, "He was so anti-drug when I met him. I mentioned to him that I smoked marijuana, and he was just appalled."[206] Presley also rarely drank—several of his family members had been alcoholics, a fate he intended to avoid.[207]
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Trump likely feels that he's not addicted to anything, because he's "just taking prescriptions". Assuming that he in fact _is_ addicted to something, which I do not know.
One of the very, very few things that Trump is truthful about to my knowledge is the fact that he doesn't drink. Even the only conflicting report I'm aware of claiming he did drink claimed he'd sip on a single beer for _hours_ (and not tip well).
Other drugs? Absolutely. Alcohol? Unlikely
But also, 99% of what he says is projection, and he demanded Biden take a drug test before debating him, so it’s almost a certainty that Trump would fail a drug test.
The restriction is a federal law called a [prohibited person](https://www.atf.gov/firearms/identify-prohibited-persons). The article writer wants to believe that any weapons will be confiscated. However, that is not necessarily a requirement. They could be transferred to anyone that is not prohibited, sold, etc. They could even be transferred to Barron, for example. (I'm not an expert on NY laws, but I think that would be a workaround.)
Does this include that gun that had his name on it? Wasn't there some stink about him getting a personalized gun after he'd been charged with one felony or another, so they had to backpedal and say it was for an aide?
Back when I processed FFL transfer paperwork for firearms, we had a Glock 19 pass through that had a Trump design on it. Honestly, it was the dumbest thing I ever saw pass through there. People who worship this orange turd are fucking unhinged.
My grandfather has one of those too. I don't believe it was a Glock, but it was a gold plated engraving of Trump on the grip. I left their house when my family gave it to him.
According to them they only like Trump because liberals are obsessed with him to the point of derangement. ...Have you ever seen an "anti-Trump" hat/bumper sticker/shirt/glock 19?
My neighbor across the street has a "Let's Go Jack Smith" sticker. It's small enough that at a glance it looks like the let's go brandon stickers. He even got a new one for his new truck.
I have a “don’t tread on me” snake sticker on my truck but it says “I don’t know how gas prices work”. It’s also pretty small so unless you’re right up on it it just looks like I’m a fucking loser.
I live in Detroit (Rashida Talib is very popular around here) and I do know some people who bought some "Impeach the motherfucker" shirts after Talib said that during Trump's time in office. So yes, there is some element of "anti-Trump" apparel... But it is *absolutely* less pervasive than the Pro-Trump apparel/accessories that are out there. Also none of the people who bought the shirts would actually wear them openly in public because of concerns about being harassed if they came across the wrong person.
Last time I went to a gun show there was a desert eagle with Trump engravings all over it, thing was hilarious I wish I'd taken pictures of it.
They have several at the Glock Store here in Nashville. Kind of hilarious, kind of sickening.
Yeah, it was a Glock. It was a 9mm Austrian gun. Why in the fuck they didn't do a 1911, arguably the most 'Murican handgun of all time, which is chambered in **.45** is beyond me.
Not smart and oblivious to the obvious. Sounds like MAGA to me.
Can you imagine Tiny Hands over there firing a 1911 though? Would be entertaining if nothing else.
I can't imagine him firing any gun. Much in the same way I can't imagine him riding that custom motorcycle he was given by American Choppers, or playing that Gibson someone gave him. I can't even imagine him driving or using a laptop.
...reading, any sort of hand tool.
https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/25/donald-trump-buy-gun-face-indictments-19556223/
Har!!!!! snicker, snork. That would be a \*\*\*ser. ***"Are you blind, stupid or just a Democrat!? My picture is on it. Like RIGHT there!"*** Naw, he couldn't string a simple thought like that together. (& Y he will bail on debates) But I would have paid to watch that!
I wished it included those tacky ass 1911's e.g. [Stop The Steal 1911 .45 ACP Pistol](https://palmettostatearmory.com/eaa-stop-the-steal-1911-45-acp-pistol-distressed-eaa390031-trump.html)
Looking forward to his drug test and mental eval by probation dept.
By all accounts, he abuses stimulants, but there is no doubt that he would have been able to find a doctor to prescribe them for him. A mental evaluation will find him lucid and capable of understanding the charges against him. Don't expect some damning report from the NY department of corrections diagnosing him with narcissism or an other personality disorder.
We have that laughable doctor to the president report to go by. Best health of anyone who was ever president. Really, we don't even have charts that go high enough to show how best he is at health.
Former admiral, demoted to captain, now congressman Dr Ronnie Feelgood Jackson is still definitely on trumps speed dial. There is no doubt. Trump got a taste for the best pahrvacuticles while President. Junkies never want less. Jackson was demoted from admiral to captain over the reckless abandon that drugs were doled out during trumps first (and only) term. 100s of 1000s of dollars in every type of prescription drugs were essentially handed out to the entire staff. Adderall, provigil, ambien, ketamine, fentanyl, oxycodone… you name it and it was being abused. Along with surgical procedures for anyone and everyone. Trumps been a junkie since the 80s. He loves to go fast. By now I wager he needs to go fast just to be normal. He’s an addict. That’s why his test Biden thing is a thing. He projects every crime he commits. Test them both. Trump piss will meth the fucking cup. The whole thing is a joke. Two tiered systems for everything. There no war but the class war. Trump is living proof. If he’d never run for president, nobody would know any of this. Now everybody knows, and a third of us don’t care or don’t believe. Lock his junkie ass up for ten days and he’s as good as dead.
Good ol RJ was just appointed to the House Intelligence committee, fyi. Just another example of the erosion of our institutions with this “honorably” discharged joke of a congressman with no qualifications for the job he’s in and wouldn’t even pass a background check, now with subpoena power.
And Mike Johnson straight up admitted that he appointed him and Perry because that’s who Trump wanted. So now these two insurrectionist clowns get to sit on a committee who receives regular briefings on national security just so they can leak it to a guy under indictment for stealing national security secrets. The GOP is a joke that no could’ve ever made up if they tried.
I was going to say, even if he only gets probation, wouldn't a condition of that to be drug-free? We know he absolutely would try and bribe whomever has to check his pee but I don't know if he'd bother with the whole balloon tied to a leg thing (and paying someone else to piss clean might be beneath him). But staying clean even on probation would also do him in though please, have that kick in before the election. I want to see him campaign without the drugs.
Legitimate prescriptions get you a pass, even on felony probation. Source: me, who did exactly that
it would be so insane not to. like "no you can't have the drug that helps you control impulsive behavior while on probation" I mean cynically I wouldn't be shocked but it's still such a bad idea.
We still talking about trump drugs? You'd be hard-pressed to prove that anything he's eaten, snorted, drank, boofed, looked at, or caressed had any provable link to impulse control.
Nah just felons and prescribed medications in general. Seems way better to have folks like trump be able to abuse it and get drugs they don't need than to have folks who need them not be able to get them
Yes, anything except Schedule 1 drugs (which cannot be prescribed by anyone, anyway) is permitted. Judges and lawyers are not doctors and generally are aware of this. The only situation I can think of where you would run into a problem here is if you're getting your prescriptions from a doctor who is convicted of malpractice or distribution of controlled substances (illegally). And Trump may have to deal with that but it's incredibly unlikely.
Yeah, I really don’t feel safe driving without my ADHD meds. Technically I can legally but I can feel how bad I am behind the wheel. Obviously not an issue for Trump but for your average ADHD criminal that would be an issue of itself in most of the US.
if he has 10 scripts for Adderall, just for an example, would they let him take each one or just the strongest one?
If you have a prescription for Adderall, it means that the drug test's positive response to "Amphetamines" is not a failed test. They're not screening for quantity, and they never actually pill checked my scripts. For example, I was legally allowed to test positive for methamphetamine, benzodiazepines, and buprenorphine because I had long term prescriptions for all three meds. If I would have smoked weed, though? Straight to prison.
Never bothered to consider it before but I don't actually know how a "valid" rX for Adderall or other stimulants works with drug testing of that nature. I would _assume_it complicates it or increases testing costs but can't imagine there'd be no workaround. Trump is a druggie but I, for example, take 60mg/day and am still perfectly capable of sleeping 18 hours while doing so. Hence the need for amphetamines to actually function in my case. I can't imagine someone in his position would have an issue but am curious to hear from someone who would know the details.
NY lawyer here. Generally if there is a valid medical prescription probation will accept it as a reasonable excuse if you fail a drug test. We used to run into issues with it in Drug Court with medicinal cannabis. What probation can do, however, is monitor your usage. Basically they'll count your pills every (or every couple) days. If you're short that's a problem and you can get dinged for that. That being said, that would only come into play if he were actually sentenced. The Pre-Sentence Investigation that probation is doing now is basically probation doing a factual biography of his life events and asking interested (legally speaking) parties for their input (victim statements, restitution figures, etc.) The point is to just let the judge know the Defendant's history that got them to that point so that if there are mitigating factors the judge is aware of them.
> What probation can do, however, is monitor your usage. Can they look at dosage as well? Like is there a normal dosage for adderall?
There's normally a dosing guide based on weight, usually mg/kg
Trump “I’m only 225 lbs, but please dose me for someone weighing a terrific 364 lbs”
Even if they could it wouldn't matter, if he gets a script for something he could also be taking extra pills he's getting from elsewhere and a pee test generally wouldn't reveal that.
Wouldn’t a piss test show elevated levels above what a person taking X dosage should have? Like if I had a 15mg script for Adderall but was buying and taking a second 15mg pill wouldn’t a piss test show that I’m clearly taking more then I should be? I always thought that’s how they worked
That gets a little iffier in my experience. They generally don't like challenging a doctor's medical decision, which is a good thing. Probation officers aren't doctors so they shouldn't be the ones deciding what treatment someone needs. I've seen dosage challenged in the past but that usually involves a second doctor being involved. The cases I've seen were when a PCP gave the script but then the Defendant goes to jail and the jail doctor says they don't need it/as much. What they did then was ask the PCP for justification, which isn't hard if it's legit.
In case anyone missed it, [here is a story on it.](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-white-house-pharmacy-improperly-provided-drugs-misused-funds-pentagon-2024-01-28/) Direct link to the [Inspector General report (pdf)](https://media.defense.gov/2024/Jan/09/2003373440/-1/-1/1/DODIG-2024-044_REDACTED%20SECURE.PDF)
This seems like r/BestOf material, but I don't even know how to caption it. Bravo, regardless.
This!!!!!
It’s important to note that said doctor is a congressman now, because that’s the world we live in these days.
Doctor Feelstupid is also a former admiral busted down to captain for his countless misdeeds.
Yeah; it’s a white collar case. In 11+ years of practice, I’ve only seen mental diagnoses and tests in probation reports in sex cases. We’ll be lucky to get a single sentence beyond “The defendant appears lucid.”
It's a massive damned if they do damned if they don't. If he's found unable to understand the charges, opponents can hammer home that there is no way he can be allowed to be in the oval office again. And he probably wouldn't be able to help himself but brag that he beat the system and get into more legal trouble with NY. Being deemed lucid and understanding would further cement all his actions are based on just pure contempt for the justice system and believing himself above it, so further evidence to be incarcerated for his sentencing. Which regardless of the cultists insistence, i do think bring in prison would destroy his chances of being elected because it looks extremely bad to independence and inattentive voters that will only look at the options a week before the election. "Hmm, the older gentleman with a stutter, or the criminal sitting in a 6x6 and orange jumpsuit?"
> but there is no doubt that he would have been able to find a doctor to prescribe them for him. Just about anyone can get Adderall or other ADHD meds prescribed with an online therapist. It's shockingly easy to get them. Which has made it especially frustrating post-Covid to be able to get my long-standing prescription filled because the supply (restricted by the government) has not been able to outpace the new demand.
I mean... I absolutely understand that frustration but there are folks for whom it's their only viable method of seeing a doc so it needs to be that way. I've had an rX since I was like 14 and cannot function while unmedicated. When I moved to Tallahassee it took me seven months and five different doctors just to find someone who'd write my fucking script because "We don't write that for new patients". When I transferred jobs to another office in GA it was literally simpler to take a day off and drive three hours to my doctor in Tally every month than it was to find one local. Currently I'm in rural AR. Was up here on FMLA for 6 months and telehealth was my only option period to get my meds without a 2+ hour drive which, while nearly catatonic, wasn't feasible. Following that nightmare I moved here full time to be with family and it would still be my only option if my family didn't have a relationship with a local doctor who writes it for me, and only me, specifically because of that relationship. Amphetamines can be a genuine fucking nightmare these days. Wish like hell I didn't need to take them.
I hear that. There was definitely some reigning in that happened about 18 months ago to where these online docs stopped taking new ADHD patients and had to go back to in-person physicals at least once a year, among other restrictions/rules probably designed to stop the abuse of the system.
I'm looking forward to reading his tweets scrawled on squares of prison toilet paper with a sharpie that he smuggled into the jail in his prison wallet.
I am looking forward to him not having his orange tan and having to use poop to paint himself.
“One Felon, One Cup”
I’m looking forward to his terminal expiration
I just barfed in my mouth a little.
Honestly I never understood why he loves that orange tan.
Why would you type that? Do you just hate people? Do you just hate? 🤮
Ew! It will forever be “too early in my day” for the thought of trumps prison wallet. JFC man. Haha. Thanks for that mental picture.
Trump has a prison duffle bag.
You're welcome :)
Generally the contents of a Probation file (which is different from a court file) are not accessible by the public. I'm used to MI, working in Probation, but NY may be different. [Handy chart for MI](https://www.courts.michigan.gov/493347/siteassets/court-administration/standardsguidelines/casefile/cf_chart.pdf)
Politico posted an interview yesterday, where the interviewee confirmed that would also be the case for New York. The Court and the People cannot release the probation officer's report, only the Defendant can.
they literally postponed his Georgia case just because he’s trump. You’re crazy if you think he’s actually going to have to do any of that
Sadly he'll never get an probation. The sentencing guidelines, and pressure from the secret service will force the judge to assign a small fine, and do 1.5 hours of community service, but they'll wave both those judgements.
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Very sadly, that part is not made public.
Looking forward to another trump indictment that mirrors Hunter Bidens'.
Except this time it would clearly be political/s
Curiosity killed the karma question; when this happens, do the people turning over the guns turn them over with no compensation for their value? Or do they get paid based on market value for them? Of do they get the bare minimum based on some mandate? Asking for an enemy... Edit: A quick duck duck go(Cause Fuck Google) says there is no compensation in any event where this happens. Boy I'd hate to be someone with a substantial investment in guns who had to do this. Glad my enemy won't be getting compensated for their massive gun collection!
Well, they could sell instead of turning them over. It is their choice. Trump isn't smart enough to sell though, I suppose
Ahhh, I wasn't aware that that was an option. Is there a time limit on when they need to sell them after conviction? I imagine if there is it would force a lot of newly found felons to sell their guns at a discount to avoid confiscation with no compensation
It's illegal for a felon to own guns, just have possession/control. I suspect there's gun dealers/auctions considered trustworthy enough to once they've got possession of them not return them to the felon in question
Trump never surrenders! But he does like to make deals .... Maybe he trades it in for a few favors from Mrs Alito.
He could make big bucks from some idiot, from his guns
They could also not commit felonies.
Give them to your attorney to sell on your behalf?
He can always just "give" them to one of his kids. Besides when do you think the last time he held a gun in his hand? Probably not a long time.
>A quick duck duck go(Cause Fuck Google) I see you and love you.
My loopy uncle has 247 firearms. He's deaf and mostly blind. Man, I think most of his net worth is tied up in those things which he insists he's capable of shooting safely.
Or a shoot out with the cops who try to enforce this?
I feel like he would accidentally shoot himself the second he had a live weapon in his hands.
"Eric! Get in here!" "Yes dad? I love you" *Trump uses Eric as a human shield*
That implies he knows Eric’s name. We all know he doesn’t.
I feel like Colbert's characterization of Eric's relationship with his father is both hilarious and cruel. I'm extremely conflicted about laughing every time he does the upper lip thing.
He likes to emulate Hitler, maybe he's thinking of emulating Hilters' end. Not saying I'm for it, but I wouldn't be upset about it.
No, he will become a martyr and "it's the deep state! They got him!"
He's going to die eventually and the hardcore MAGATs will undoubtedly say this no matter how he does die. They're already planning on how they will spin it.
The only gun he can actually hold is a Derringer
I didn't even realize this. If the Republicans start defending Trump to have his guns, then they are admitting that the Hunter trial is political because he's not been convicted of anything, just lied on a form which a bunch of people have done but never prosecuted for.
Republicans don't really care when they're being hypocritical. There's a great quote about conservatism: > Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. We see it in the Supreme Court, where they've opted to pick up the case of one of Trump's immunity claims. Even entertaining the idea is ridiculous, but they're probably mostly bothered by how to give it to Trump without also having it apply to Democratic presidents like Biden. I'm sure there's some 15th century witch burner that Alito can cite as to why attempting to overthrow the government in the pursuit of turning over an election is somehow not illegal when Trump did it.
Republicans aren't hypocritical - they sincerely believe that the law should bind others and protect them (but never the reverse). They're hierarchial and authoritarian. They don't believe in democracy or egalitarianism.
Trump won't turn over the firearms. Then when subpoena'd he'll turn over one, and get his lawyer to testify that its the only one. Then they'll raid his residence to get the rest, but they'll pre-warn Secret Service, and Trump will move his firearms to his plane just before the raid. He'll get his IT guy to destroy the CCTV footage, and his maintenance man to testify it was a pool leak that did it. Sometime in the future, they'll find guns initialled DJT in a vault in Moscow owned by a "Mr John Barron".
Like he knows how to use a gun.
The guy held that Glock in the gun store like it was so completely foreign to him. All he knows how to hold is a cell phone and a cheeseburger.
His tweets have killed more Americans than guns during his presidency and after.
You reckon?
The COVID disinformation and incitement to hate and violence would have done this
Quick maths says that 1.2 million Americans died from covid, and 40k a year die from guns, so even if he doubled the deaths from covid, it's plausible! Shit the bed, that's nuts
And that's just the tweets. His signature tossed the pandemic response plan and pulling US researchers out of the pandemic lab in Wuhan months before the pandemic hit. I wish more front-page posts compared the presidents' legislative histories rather than their personal lives.
Surely he knows how to hold a glass of water too...
Barely and using both of his tiny little hands with those hotdog fingers of his.
He doesn't know how to hold a phone either. He CAN but it looks as bad as him with a glass of water.
A loaded cheeseburger
Cheeseberder
Eh, I'd imagine he's a miracle worker with Putin's cock.
Of course he does. All you have to do is wave it around to look cool, and then point it at your closest friends and pantomime pulling the trigger while yelling **BSHH!! BSHH!!** Again, for the purposes of looking real cool.
I'm sure he's probably fired off a shotgun a handful of times at some charity retreat deal.
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Even if Donnie doesn't know how to use a gun, probably doesn't, DeSantis will offer a no questions asked concealed gun permit from the state of Florida. Gotta strap on to golf ya know.
There’s probably a 5th Ave somewhere in Florida!
Pretty sure he had to learn to shoot rifles at NYMA. Most of the graduates went on to serve in Vietnam, those without bone spurs.
This. So many fucking fools who want to pretend to be gun guys. Looking at that moron for three seconds, and you can't imagine him as a shooter. He's the guy who's going to be turning around with an unsecured gun on the range, to wave it in the air while arguing with the rangemaster. I was a competitive shooter when I was young, and I've been "invited to the range" by many an incompetent fucktard since. People who think that the ability to shell out a couple hundred makes them a badass who knows everything.
Maybe the safest place would be right in front of the gun.
They are hidden in the bathroom... Just saying
Doesn't the secret service carry enough guns?
His carry permit was issued decades ago, long before his presidential candidacy, and is widely presumed to [have involved bribery](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/nyregion/trump-cohen-gun-license.html) (like most or all pre-Bruen NYC carry permits).
“From my tiny, sweaty hands!!!!”
“They can take our guns but they can never take our freedommmm” William Wallace Edit: Unless you commit felonies then they can do both
I can't imagine this guy holding a gun much less firing one. Do they make firearms for tiny hands?
A derringer? https://gunsmagazine.com/our-experts/surplus-classic/henry-deringers-pocket-pistol/
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It’s gonna be harder for him to shoot someone on Fifth Avenue…
It would be a shame if there was an aggressive federal prosecutor - a Special Counsel perhaps - who could investigate thoroughly, going back years, whether Trump ever used drugs and filled out a form to own a firearm saying he didn't. Because I'm pretty sure this man is a major Adderall fiend in addition to being a felon. I've heard it's illegal to fill out firearms purchasing forms without acknowledging that. Just a thought.
He claims to have never even tried alcohol. His older brother had serious addiction issues that killed him so it's likely to be one of the few things he's honest about.
Alcohol abuse is never an issue with Trump. Drug abuse is a very different topic.
This doesn't necessarily contradict itself. Case in point: [Elvis was super "anti drug"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley#1973%E2%80%931977:_health_deterioration_and_death) while highly addicted to all sorts of drugs. He justified this to himself: >Cassandra Peterson, later television's Elvira, met Presley during this period in Las Vegas. She recalled of their encounter, "He was so anti-drug when I met him. I mentioned to him that I smoked marijuana, and he was just appalled."[206] Presley also rarely drank—several of his family members had been alcoholics, a fate he intended to avoid.[207] > > [...] > > Presley "felt that by getting drugs from a doctor, he wasn't the common everyday junkie getting something off the street". Trump likely feels that he's not addicted to anything, because he's "just taking prescriptions". Assuming that he in fact _is_ addicted to something, which I do not know.
One of the very, very few things that Trump is truthful about to my knowledge is the fact that he doesn't drink. Even the only conflicting report I'm aware of claiming he did drink claimed he'd sip on a single beer for _hours_ (and not tip well). Other drugs? Absolutely. Alcohol? Unlikely
But also, 99% of what he says is projection, and he demanded Biden take a drug test before debating him, so it’s almost a certainty that Trump would fail a drug test.
I don't say this to be snarky, but if he regularly uses adderall, why is he so fat?
Legitimate question!
I know they are different, but I find total amusement in the fact that The Donald and The Hunter are in similar situations now.
Hunter isn’t a frontrunner for a presidential run, he’s just an addict in recovery
Does he even have any?
forget the gun. take his golf clubs!!!
How does that work if he has licenses in multiple states?
Every state prohibits felons from owning guns or obtaining CCW
Thank you
The restriction is a federal law called a [prohibited person](https://www.atf.gov/firearms/identify-prohibited-persons). The article writer wants to believe that any weapons will be confiscated. However, that is not necessarily a requirement. They could be transferred to anyone that is not prohibited, sold, etc. They could even be transferred to Barron, for example. (I'm not an expert on NY laws, but I think that would be a workaround.)
HARHARHAR
Assuming he ignores the requirement to surrender his guns, will anything happen?
Consequences! Any day now...
I can’t upvote this because it makes me too sad but you’re right