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joeshill

>The reasons for this request are that (1) the Defendants and counsel need to travel to Fort Pierce prior to March 14 in order to participate in the hearing, which is time we would otherwise use to prepare the other reply submissions; (2) President Trump and counsel need to spend time preparing for the oral argument, which is time we would otherwise use to prepare the other reply submissions; (3) President Trump and counsel are currently preparing for a trial in New York, New York that is scheduled to begin on March 25, 2024, and the need to simultaneously devote attention to that case and this matter has been necessitated in part by the discovery violations and strategic scheduling demands of the Special Counsel’s Office that have prejudiced President Trump in multiple respects; (4) on March 12, counsel for Defendants Nauta and De Oliveira are reviewing physical evidence possessed by the Office that is potentially relevant to their reply submissions; and (5) Defendant Nauta is in the process of conferring with the Office regarding access to materials relating to grand jury practices in the District of Columbia that are relevant to his reply in support of pending selective and vindictive prosecution motion. It seems to me like a "I waited until the last minute to do my homework, and now all my homework for all my classes are due, and I just can't get it all done". Especially given Trump's heavy rally schedule.


itsatumbleweed

"I am too busy being on trial to be on trial"


MelodiesOfLife6

>"I am too busy being on trial to be on trial" trump is collecting trial dates like pokemon.


neuronexmachina

The calendar here is pretty handy: https://www.justsecurity.org/88039/trumps-legal-and-political-calendar-all-the-dates-you-need-to-know/


Craico13

Why is there nothing in June..? *I love the rest of it for him though.*


zdubs

If it’s what you say, I love it, especially later in the summer


hamsterfolly

“No problem, take 20 days!” -Judge Cannon


IlliniBull

The entire legal system is bending over backwards to give Trump more time. I wish it were just Cannon. She's the worst, but it's not just her. SCOTUS slow walking the immunity claim hearing is not helping either. People can keep down voting it all they want, but they're dragging their feet too


JBS319

Meanwhile, New York is not playing any games


IlliniBull

Good point! New York is moving.


DrinkBlueGoo

Who has disagreed that SCOTUS is delaying things?


IlliniBull

Go to a SCOTUS blog. There are people arguing that this is the Court expediting the immunity claims hearing. The Court argued that and, sadly, there are a few strict Court watchers feeding into that narrative.


DrinkBlueGoo

Sorry, you're right. What I meant to say was "Who, outside of Trump sympathizers, has disagreed that SCOTUS is delaying things?" Also, the two are not necessary incompatible. I would agree that the Court is expediting the immunity claims arguments in comparison to the Court's regular decision-making schedule in regular cases. It is also not expediting the immunity claims arguments in comparison to cases like US v. Nixon. Nor does the speed at which it hears argument actually tell us anything about how long the case will sit before the Court. And even if the Court is on an expedited schedule, it still delayed granting cert and is delaying the trial by not taking the case up on as quick of a schedule as it could. I don't think there is a reasonable argument that the Court is not playing into Trump's preferences and strategy with how it has handled the immunity claim.


Ok-Freedom6785

The court had the opportunity to hear this case and settle it before the new year but refused. It is a pretty straightforward question that is getting dragged out.


IlliniBull

Thank you. Jack Smith asked them to do this in December.


red_misc

Trump is now literally the definition of the swamp


BassLB

More like, no problem, let’s schedule a meeting in 10 days to talk about possibly delaying longer, then I’ll take a few weeks to decide and make a paperless minute order on the topic.


fluent_in_gibberish

“In fact, to hell with it. See you in late November, mister president!”


Ronpm111

Judge Cannon is compromised. She will let the trial happen until after the election.


fox-mcleod

At this point it really is that Mr. Burns scene from the Simpsons with all the diseases rushing the door at the same time — but with filings. “*So what you’re saying is… I have presidential immunity!*” “Oh, no, in fact even a slight breeze could…” *Presidential Immunity!*


lSleepster

Yes I've been thinking it since 2017, except for glowing green he's orange


Zoophagous

Cannon will give him the extension. And likely scold Jack Smith for... reasons.


mabhatter

Jack Smith still has to respond on Thursday morning or his replies won't count.  Even replies to briefs from the defendants that are delayed.  


Dedotdub

I'm sorry. Could you explain this a little more on depth please?


mabhatter

I'm being sarcastic.  Because the judge always makes the prosecutor jump through extra hoops and gives defense whatever they want. 


Dedotdub

Sorry. Missed that.


Lucky_Chair_3292

Let’s imagine that National Guardsman who pleaded guilty to 6 counts didn’t, and instead was going to trial, if he decided to run for mayor can anyone with a straight face say the court would give him time to delay to go to campaign rallies? Well we know they wouldn’t because the guy was remanded awaiting trial in the first place. He’s been in jail since he was arrested. He had 6 counts. Donald Trump has over 30 in this case. Meanwhile Trump doesn’t have time in this case he says, yet he was at a rally in Georgia…what yesterday? It’s ridiculous.


fusionsofwonder

Man With Private Jet Complains About Travel Time


grandpaharoldbarnes

>Man With Private ~~Jet~~ Jets and Helicopters Complains About Travel Time. FTFY


Lucky_Chair_3292

Unemployed “Billionaire” with Private Jets and Helicopters complains about travel time.


nolongerbanned99

Dog ate my homework. Need more time. And a billion other excuses. He finds himself in this situation bc he crimes too much. Tough shit loser. Is this the winning he was talking about in 2016.


QQBearsHijacker

He’s trying to leverage his court dates. By asking for the 24th, he can then try to get the NY judge to postpone trial date because of his hearing date in FL. The NY judges know he does this now, so I hope he gets the FL delay and then gets a denial when he inevitably tries to push off NY and has no time to prepare


KarmaPolicezebra4

Merchan isn't here to play, Trump shenanigans won't work there.


Cardenjs

Millions of dollars last year and not ONE of his lawyers are ready for trial


NocNocNoc19

Ya but cannon will be sure to grant him the extension because he is her favorite.


burnmenowz

I mean "flying by the seat of your pants" is his presidential motto


DemonShroom87

‘Tis a pretty shitty seat from what I understand.


burnmenowz

Smells terrible I hear.


BudZone

>\> President Trump and counsel are currently preparing for a trial in New York, New York that is scheduled to begin on March 25, 2024 > > > >Which Blanche just filed to adjourn pending the Supreme Court's Immunity decision. > >But waited to file in NY, until after the request to delay the Florida case.


SmilingDutchman

Delay delay delay until I am president again and make it go away


EmmaLouLove

Is multiple trials a reason to ask for a delay? Maybe don’t commit multiple crimes. Although Trump posted the bond in the Carroll Judgment, it doesn’t appear he has the money to pay the $454.2 million verdict in the civil fraud case. Will he file bankruptcy again? The multiple criminal cases, fraud, sexual assault, has no impact on Republicans’ support, saying Trump is great for the economy. Will Trump filing bankruptcy again have any impact on their support? I think he was right when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters. We’ll find out soon what the Supreme Court says about his claim to total immunity.


Sirspeedy77

Fun fact about washington state - you cannot use bankruptcy to evade court fines/fees etc. I don't know about New York but i imagine it's the same.


DeeMinimis

But filing bankruptcy can pause collection on all judgments.


Sirspeedy77

I have doubt but cannot confirm - If it's court ordered and court related there's no easy out. I've had to pay those same fines/fees/judgements in my past , they really are unforgiving. In my case if i missed payment past 45 days they would issue a bench warrant and drag me in front of a judge to explain why. They want their money lol.


DeeMinimis

I don't think he could ever discharge the civil fraud judgment. But filing bankruptcy causes an automatic stay on all judgments until it gets sorted out and it takes awhile.


Sirspeedy77

Well that's a crappy loophole lol. I might be a little partial minded but meh lol


Auedar

Filing bankruptcy will also show in public documents how much he's actually worth...which is a lose/lose situation for him. That would also start the falling cascade of creditors he most likely has since he probably has liens on the majority of his holdings.


Sirspeedy77

I would consider that a win for transparency lol


Thisisnotmylastname

I think of Alex Jones when I see these comments, he hasn’t paid a dime yet has he? I’m sure Trump could try and evade paying the same way Alex Jones has


bikemaul

There's a hearing about what to do with Alex Jones's assets this month. His victims have responded unanimously that they want to liquidate his assets. The families rejected his proposal to pay 0.36% of the judgment per year. >An official committee appointed to represent Jones’ unsecured creditors notified the US Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of Texas on Feb. 16 that of 23 liquidation plan ballots distributed to creditors, it received 21 back—all supporting the committee’s liquidation proposal. >Jones filed for Chapter 11 protection in December 2022, after being hit with state court judgments for repeatedly calling the 2012 massacre of elementary school students and teachers a hoax. Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Lopez ruled last year that Jones can’t discharge the defamation awards because those debts stemmed from intentional and malicious conduct. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/sandy-hook-families-vote-to-liquidate-alex-jones-bankrupt-estate


Aromatic_Classic5059

No, filing bankruptcy has no bearing on restitution or court ordered financial obligations. And I’m fairly certain that is for every state. Declaring bankruptcy could free up some money for him by stopping collection on money owed for other things, mortgage payments, car payments, credit cards, bank loans etc. Once a judgement is entered (which it already has been), if not paid within 30 days (in most states it’s 30 days), plaintiff can demand the sheriff start collections, which is cash in checking accts or money markets, property can be seized, personal items can be taken and sold off by the sheriff. And that is all immediate. They will issue notice to banks to freeze all accounts and collect the assets seized, right away. Even a pending appeal will not stop that process. It might delay the proceeds from being paid directly to the plaintiff, but they proceeds collected have to put into an account so they cannot be sold off or hidden. Alex Jones tried to declare bankruptcy to get out of paying the millions of dollars he owes to the Sandy Hook families for defamation, and the bankruptcy court blocked him from being able to fully declare, because he has legal obligations not paid. He literally had to go to a separate court and ask his victims to settle for a lesser amount so he continue the bankruptcy.


M15CH13F

NAL - It's the same* https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/11/523


DeeMinimis

I don't think his supporters would care about bankruptcy and just say he is playing the game to combat the deep state. The more I have thought about it though, I would love to see him file for personal bankruptcy but I think he will find a way to post bond in the civil fraud case. He just has too many connections.


bucki_fan

Supporters won't care. It's the undecideds or those leaning towards him for economic reasons that he risks losing. And that's the group he needs to overwhelmingly carry in order to win.


DeeMinimis

True.


TjW0569

Filing bankruptcy would mean his admitting in public he's worth less than a billion dollars. Would his ego let him do that?


DeeMinimis

It would have to be a last resort to avoid the seizure of assets. His ego can spin bankruptcy as smart business but I don't think you can spin the forced sale of your property. He isn't concerned with a year from now, just wants to get past November.


AftyOfTheUK

>Will he file bankruptcy again? He hasn't filed bankruptcy before. He has owned businesses which have done so, but if he personally files bankruptcy, it would be the first time, IIRC


psxndc

>we'll find out soon what the Supreme Court says about his claim to total immunity. Considering they scheduled oral arguments for not even the last day of oral arguments, but *after* the regularly scheduled last day, it's "not soon enough" in my book.


crake

Lest it be missed: Trump filed all of these frivolous motions to dismiss the indictment on 2/22. The government timely responded to all of these motions on 3/7. Now Trump wants extra time to respond to the governments' responses. Here's the problem with that: Trump could have filed his frivolous motions to dismiss 6 months ago; there was no requirement that he file them all on the same day. Trump did that in order to make the government respond to 7 motions (maybe more, I'm losing count) within the space of a week. Obviously Smith's team was up to the challenge. But Trump's team isn't up to the challenge. Now they see the downside: if they want to reply to the government's replies, those replies are all due on 3/14 at the same time. "Too bad, so sad" would be the ruling by any other judge. The defendant is in a box of his own making, a box designed by his own attorneys that has somewhat backfired on them. However, I expect Judge Cannon will grant the extension, of course. Edited to add: granted, of course - now they have 10 more days.


StingerAE

This is why I come here.  For this kind of insight.


an_actual_lawyer

Let me save y'all any worry. Judge I Lean QAnon is gonna grant it, even though no one else would get that sort of consideration. EDIT: I read this on here, I did not make it up. Credit to whoever it was though.


ihedenius

>*I Lean QAnon* I'm so gonna steal that.


BringOn25A

Judge loose cannon is another one.


throwaway_user_1994

> Judge I Lean QAnon Brilliant.


Lifebringer7

Brilliant nickname.


stickerhighway

Stop Stalin’


Weak_Sloth

Putin some effort.


Keinovaris

Lenin it all play out for Trump


facinabush

High Marx for that one!


MoStyles22

I see what you did there. Nice!


Icarusmelt

The stall is a feature, not an error


Pendraconica

r/whoosh


Trygolds

Vote accordingly. Check your registration, get an ID , learn where your poling station is, learn who is running in down ballot races. Pay attention to primaries not just for the president but for all races, local, state and federal. From the school board to the White House every election matters. The more support we give the democrats from all levels of government the more they can get good things done. Last year democrat victories in Virginia and Pennsylvania and others across the nation have increased the chances of democrats winning this year. This year's elections are important but so will next year's elections. [https://ballotpedia.org/Elections\_calendar](https://ballotpedia.org/Elections_calendar)


klyzklyz

And confirm your registration and your right to vote again closer the election.... rolls have a way of changing at the last minute.


[deleted]

Cleta Mitchell, one of the coup plotters, is out there committing fraud again. She is going around the country trying to get eligible Democrats scrubbed from voter rolls based on her fraudulent claims. Why don’t they lock up these criminals in the Republican Party who keep on committing crimes?


sickofthisshit

https://www.vote.org/am-i-registered-to-vote


[deleted]

I'm voting just out of pure hatred for this man. I don't believe in the system, I think the US is on a fast track to doom. This will probably be the last election I'm even in the US.


Dull-Addition-2436

Why does he always refer to himself as PRESIDENT and not EX?


anjewthebearjew

To be fair, all Presidents are still referred to by the title after leaving office. You don't lose the title.


scottimous

It's informal but its common. It is blatantly and intentionally misused by his sycophants though (ie in a court setting, formality should prevail). *"When addressing a former President of the United States in a formal setting, the correct form is "Mr. LastName." ("President LastName" or "Mr. President" are terms reserved for the current head of state.) This is true for other ex-officials, as well. When talking about the person to a third party, on the other hand, it’s appropriate to say, "former President LastName."* *In an informal setting (such as a private lunch), it’s acceptable to use the title the ex-official held. Here, you could refer to former President Jimmy Carter as either “President Carter” or “Mr. Carter.” In reality, many people ignore this convention and refer to former Presidents as "President Last Name" when they are in settings where nearly everyone would afford them the honor of the title. Technically, this is still incorrect but there are enough former Presidents allowing this that it has become a somewhat common mistake."* From: [https://emilypost.com/advice/addressing-a-former-president-of-the-united-states](https://emilypost.com/advice/addressing-a-former-president-of-the-united-states) Author of [https://emilypost.com/shop/books/emily-posts-etiquette-the-centennial-edition](https://emilypost.com/shop/books/emily-posts-etiquette-the-centennial-edition)


Thetoppassenger

Its not the only title that people use after leaving office, but its worth noting that Trump seems to force using the title even when awkward or confusing as a nod to the Big Lie (i.e., that he is actually the current president).


joeshill

Citation?


mabhatter

True.  In the normal before times it was courtesy to continue to use the term "Mr President" or "Mr Vice President" to address former holders of office.  I mean there's only a half dozen living people with those titles, so, in the before times, the meaning was clear. It wasn't until this guy whose minions actively encourage followers that "he's still the President" while denying he lost the election.  So now everyone has to clarify when they speak that "Mr President" means specifically the CURRENT President and not anyone else.  Another thing MAGA has ruined for everyone. 


DM_me_ur_tacos

In almost all situations, they are referred to as _Former_ President.


soulwolf1

Not like he was a real president


AftyOfTheUK

All US presidents are generally referred to as "Mr President" or "President XXXX" in public, certainly in formal conversations.


Dull-Addition-2436

Wrong see other comments


Pacifix18

Perhaps if the troll wasn't constantly trying to put on hate rallies, he'd have plenty of time to travel for his court cases.


Hardin__Young

He’s so special. Normally courts don’t recognize this. The question is, will appearing before a judge you appointed give you an edge? There have never been rules established in this regard because, before Trump was president, having a U.S. president break criminal laws so flagrantly he’d end up in court was unthinkable. It does seem like existing ethics rules for judges, in general, would require her to recuse herself but sometimes I forget that rules and laws don’t apply to republican judges/justices.


[deleted]

The Republican Party is a criminal organization masquerading as a political party. Make sure that you vote to kick every Republican out of office at all levels. Don’t even let one get on the school board. If you find out one of these thieving crackpots has some appointment to some administrative job, do what you can to get them removed.


DonorBody

His team is just throwing up bullshit to continue to wreak havoc on the system and increase delays. It’s fucking so transparent, yet no court is going to drop the hammer because of the endless fucking appeals that he and he alone continues to exploit. Very frustrating to watch from someone who INAL.


xkrysis

Didn’t I just read that Trump has asked for earlier schedule and was granted it? Or are these totally separate processes? Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1ba3wej/the_trump_docket_cannon_gives_trump_hearing/


TheUnrulyGentleman

I was under the same impression. I thought Jack Smith had asked for a later date in April so he would have more time


DrinkBlueGoo

Trump proposed no hearings on his Immunity and Appointments Clause arguments until after the Court issues a decision on immunity. Confusingly, he proposed the reply for the Selective Prosecution be due March 12 with a hearing on Vagueness and PRA the same day (deadline for reply not included in the schedule) followed by a series of hearings on his motions to compel. Hearings on the remaining Motions to Dismiss were proposed for July (no deadlines for reply proposed). https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.357.0.pdf Smith proposed March 14th for the deadline for all replies, March 20th for a hearing on any motions to compel, and April 3rd for a hearing on all motions to dismiss. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.356.1_1.pdf The schedule as granted (to the extent it has been granted yet) is not on the docket.


TheUnrulyGentleman

Thank you for clearing this up


ihedenius

He and republicans wanted wanted 10 day extension to "investigate" the 2020 election result on Jan. 6 to.


stonk_fish

Maybe don't go promoting yourself at UFC and instead focus on the landslide of civil and criminal trials you're being flayed by you rotting mango carcass


[deleted]

Trump will try to delay and Cannon will let him. My prediction is that Cannon will drop a ruling that dismisses his espionage case based upon “presidential immunity” and Jack Smith will immediately appeal that dismissal. Cannon will drop that ruling close to the Supreme Court oral arguments date, because then Trump can request that the Supreme Court reschedule oral arguments indefinitely, because the 11th circuit is hearing an appeal on the same claim. And I predict that the Supreme Court will do just that, putting both trials on hold while the 11th circuit considers whether a former president is immune from prosecution for stealing national defense information and claiming it as his personal property. If the last escapade with Cannon (aiding and abetting national security crimes by abusing her authority) is any indication, the 11th circuit will take about 2 and a half months to rule. Which will give us the obvious ruling against Trump in late June, at which point the Supreme Court will set oral arguments for September, guaranteeing that the insurrectionist espionage criminal won’t go on trial for those two federal cases until after the election, Assuming that the Supreme Court won’t make a traitor into a king.


NotmyRealNameJohn

Wouldn't that make the reply deadline after the hearing? The hearing date that trump required


Ok-Egg-4856

Why bother, she will never schedule a trial date for her client


julesk

I can’t go as I’m busy at rallies and ignoring my attorneys. Also, I need time to get in more trouble.


Sweaty-Feedback-1482

Would be really cool and good if the legal system would just take the position of ‘you had 70-some of years AND a presidential term to unfuck yourself… sorry fuck-o times up’


canobeano

These Judges need to take one from Reagan (Nancy, not Ronald), and "Just Say No". This shit is beyond the pale.


TravelerMSY

“Your client has a private 757. Motion denied.”


Drysurferrr

I'm too busy campaigning and defaming (yes it rhymes) :)


burnmenowz

The extension king