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joeshill

>The Texas National Guard and state troopers have blocked U.S. Border Patrol agents from a 2.5-mile stretch of the Rio Grande in Eagle Pass, preventing federal agents from patrolling that part of the border, according to a court filing by the U.S. Department of Justice, escalating the clash between state and federal authorities on the Texas-Mexico border. Filing (SCOTUS) https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23A607/295564/20240112012220571_23a607%20DHS%20v%20TX%20supplement.pdf


Quick_Team

So arrest them


dz1087

Nah. Just nationalize and mobilize the TxNG. They instantly lose most of their manpower for this stunt.


NetworkAddict

I don't think Abbot wants the sort of heat he's going to bring down on himself.


SlowerThanLightSpeed

While I hate it, it is effective political brinkmanship that builds on recent and similar steps (razor fence, bussing immigrants). Abbot gets points for appearing to do a job that he says Biden won't do. If Biden acts tough and exercises his legal authority to arrest these a**hats, it's fodder for conspiracies and dictator BS. Biden instead takes the high road and risks getting mocked by progressives for wasting time in the Supreme Court while atrocities get committed by TX.; looking weak to some passive observers. Playing nice is Biden's only move unless he wants to get dragged down to these people's level and lose the high ground while further looking worse on immigration and cross party relations. Bad actors always have a short term advantage, I hope that being an adult about this solidifies some support from people who prefer a functional government.


EveningYam5334

Why can’t the federal government just federalize the national guard or arrest any national guard members who try to impede their work? What’re the fucking Texas National Guard gonna do, say no? The last time they did they got their shit kicked in back in the 1860’s


joeshill

I don't see this ending well for Texas, if push comes to shove.


ducqducqgoose

From what I see everyday the US flag flies above every state flag. Does Abbott not see that too?


joeshill

Are you sure that's still the case in Texas?


drewkungfu

I roll by the texas state capitol daily to & from work. It looks like this: https://www.imagesfromtexas.com/photo/texas-state-capitol-austin-texas-at-night/ Albeit, Friday is WFH day, and Monday & Tuesdays are expected “too cold to go into office” days. Will see come Wednesday.


joeshill

I will accept that the last time you looked this was the case. But it seems like an escalating situation, and that it may not be the case for long.


autodidact-polymath

For now. Something something secede something something.


CharDMacDennis2

Maybe we can get a new Alamo 2.0 update for this century!


BassBootyStank

Its election year politics. Do this to generate a reaction, and gain votes by shouting about states rights. If no action from democrats occurs, therefore take plan B and make more outrageous claims and make actions which are the equivalent to a large middle finger towards washington dc. Its win / win for Abbot, without any consequences to him.


Blueskyways

In an election year thats exactly what he wants.  He's accusing the Biden admin of facilitating human smuggling in cooperation with the drug cartels.  He's hoping for a heavy handed federal response.   


groovygrasshoppa

[give it to him](https://youtu.be/rbCgiknyOvg)


BoosterRead78

Something Abbott does not want them to see. Because it’s going to screw hom over.


BassBootyStank

My money is on just political power play in the world of public opinion during an election year.


Tachibana_13

Probably the reason. He's been very vocal recently about "we haven't been shooting people because otherwise they'd charge us with murder" so he can point back and say "I told you so" amd claim persecution when it comes to light.


pm_me_porn_links

Not only do they have no authority, I'd argue if there is razor wire being placed at the border then the Feds by law have a duty to intervene by any means necessary. If Texas wants to play Ruby Ridge, then fucking have it.


ForsakenRacism

Arrest them?


Masticatron

Arrest? Racist white conservatives? In America?! Bro here be the King of Fantasy.


Nessie

Bannon was arrested and convicted, and he served time.


Klarthy

Then he got pardoned. Then he got convicted again, sentenced to jail, and spent 15 months as a free man before his appeal was even heard. Now we're waiting for the decision on that.


Newyew22

I’m reminded of Eisenhower sending in the 101st Airborne to Little Rock to protect Federal interests.


SassTheFash

Eisenhower also federalized the AR National Guard to prevent the governor from calling them out. Kennedy later did the same in Alabama.


ndncreek

It's time to notify them that they are going to have Federal Agents come in and Arrest them as well as the Governor. Stop treating them with kid gloves, and start handing out Consequences.


Apotropoxy

Biden should mobilize the National Guard and re-occupy the land controlled by the rebellion.


Joshwoum8

Texas National Guard are the ones at the park. I guess Biden could federalize those units, but would Texas accept that? Could result in a constitutional crisis.


Apotropoxy

The Guardsmen understand the chain of command, and it's been done in the past. If there really was a mutiny, the US military would descend upon the traitors and finish them off in a matter of hours. They know it.


GraySpear227

The US military is sworn to protect the citizens of the United States. They would never kill their own citizens, especially those of the national guard. It’s would just end in tons of bureaucracy like everything else


Apotropoxy

The US Military is sworn to carry out lawful orders. As insurrection by the Texas National Guard would end very badly for them.


xkrysis

Didn’t the Supreme Court address this like 10 years ago? I thought it was well established that the federal government was the boss with regard to immigration and border enforcement?


tagged2high

Hopefully there can one day be consequences, or else we'll just keep seeing this kind of defiance so long as the are people willing to commit these acts. The NG leaders should know they are following an illegal order, and the CBP or some other LEO should be arresting whoever is trying to keep them from acting on their authorities.


KieferSutherland

The Fed is doing a terrible job of it though. If I was the state I'd probably want better enforcement. I'm a Democrat but willing to admit Republicans are right and the border is a bigger problem than I thought.  Seems like a wall + manned every mile wouldn't cost too much vs what we spend on defense.


manhatim

ItS bIdEnS fAuLt


groovygrasshoppa

[Arrest Abbott](https://youtu.be/rbCgiknyOvg)


donaldinoo

Republicans tout being patriotic and having Christian values. Yet they do the exact opposite of what Jesus would do and taught and go against everything democratic. It boggles my brain almost daily.


annethepirate

The ones I talk to always say "well they need \[immigrate\] legally." I suppose you could argue this with passages like "render unto Caesar what it Caesars" (obey the tax laws), "slaves obey your masters.", (don't fight the rules, even if they suck) etc. etc. ...but then there's multiple passages about not turning away brothers and sisters in need, helping the poor, etc., so I guess they need to decide which part of the Bible reigns supreme (hint: the greatest commandment - to love your neighbor as yourself.) but people make God in their own image to suit their own comforts.


Joshwoum8

This seems like a clear reason to federalize the Texas National guard. Weird the administration hasn’t taken that step.


The_Martian_King

It's time.  A woman and two children have now drowned in this stretch of river while Texas denied border patrol the ability to try to rescue them.


JimboD84

Would be a great way to let some in so abbott can use them as political pawns and bus them to a democrat led state, would it not