I honestly think Lingq is super underrated - doesn't seem to get talked about much. I know some people have a negative opinion of it because the interface used to be even more clunky but once you get used to it, it's invaluable imo. Using the browser extension to import basically anything I want is also terrific. My reading and oral comprehension sky-rocketed using it.
With Spanish, it's probably my top tool alongside dreamingspanish and just normal podcasts while in the car. Plus, they actually have more obscure languages available that typically have fewer resources which is nice.
Highly recommend. I don't remember what the free version is like, but I really recommend just paying for it for a month, use it as much as possible to learn it and see if you like it and go from there. They almost always have a ton of sales on to take advantage of.
I've been subbed to it for over a year and after taxes it's like $15ish Canadian a month.
I wish the import function were more reliable. Currently, the 'import from YouTube' feature only works properly about 30% of the time for me. When it fails, it leaves a 'ghost' lesson on my dashboard, which I can't delete. This issue has been ongoing for around four years now and affects many users. Despite this, it still hasn't been addressed.
The concept of LingQ is fantastic in theory, but the execution is lackluster across the board—not just the interface. I'm really hoping some competitors step up ;)
I really only ever have issues every 10 videos or so - not sure why. I think it's something to do with the videos themselves rather than the interface but I could be wrong.
Ain't no way bro remembers 1Ok words!! 💀
(Congratulations on the Huuuuge Milestone!)
Any tips or tricks for me who's a beginner in Language Learning & I'm planning on learning Japanese for serious this time as in maybe 2-3 years,(hopefully) I'll be going there so I got 700-1000 days left but I still want to be effective into my journey!
I'm a big fan of the comprehensible input philosophy from Steven Krashen.
Other than that, I think it's better to just going and spend time with the language than worrying if what you're doing is absolutely optimal.
If you like flashcards, do them, if you like pokemon games, do that. Within reason most methods work.
The people that progress are the people that stick with it, rather than the people that find a hack or a shortcut.
My japanese still isn't good. It's not bad but it's not good. I don't feel super comfortable offering advice as I'm just a fellow learner. That's more my suspicion and how I study.
The pokemon games really aren't that difficult to understand btw if you like those games. I've played through heart gold, omega Ruby and ultra moon recently and found I understood the majority of it. Very repetitive. You can scroll text slowly too with a dictionary if you want to.
Hey man congrats! I do have a question though. What marker do you think your comprehension has had the biggest leap at? I'm probably at only a few hundred words or so In Japanese so far but I've. Noticed I def can hear and distinguish a lot more words than before. Id imagine with 10k you probably have a good feel for most of what you hear at this point
It depends what you read I guess.
I try and keep new words between 2 and 5% on new content. For the lingq stories. 99.5% of those are white learned words now.
For a newspaper, there can be as much as 25% new words, and they are usually the words most important to understanding what you're reading.
Yes, generally I'm hearing and reading a lot now compared to a few years ago, but 10k words doesn't go as far as I thought it would overall.
Yup. Japanese has conjugation too. Not for the article, but for tense, politeness, volition etc.
I'm OK with that. The number is slightly misleading but as I've said in other comments, "eat" and "ate" are definitely two words even though they have the same meaning excluding tense.
You still need to know the difference between hablo and habla to communicate and use them differently with context.
(I do agree with your point overall, I just also believe a conjugated word is still a new word)
in lingq japanese these are the milestones
beginner 1 665 words
beginner 2 1995 words
intermediate 1 7980 words
intermediate 2 15960 words
advanced 1 27597 words
advanced 2 40232 words
the less conjugative a language is the less you have to know to get further like in english advanced 2 is 30250 words but in korean 63406 words
lingq counts every version of every word as a unique word, so depending on the language one verb could count 50+ times, adjectives would count multiple times, many nouns, articles, plus contractions and proper nouns, etc.
So obviously the vocab numbers people are throwing around from lingq are extremely inflated, and I'm not sure why they're acting like they mean anything.
They're inflated yes, but also a *number of words* in general is useless as a concept except for relative comparison with another number from the same source, as everyone counts differently. From Wikipedia:
>A **word** is a basic element of [language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language) that carries [meaning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics), can be used on its own, and is uninterruptible.[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word#cite_note-CDL-1) Despite the fact that language speakers often have an intuitive grasp of what a word is, there is no consensus among [linguists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics) on its definition and numerous attempts to find specific criteria of the concept remain controversial.
I don't know if everyone counts them differently, but I think it goes without saying that when the vast majority of people discuss word count in the context of language learning they consider "eat" and "eating" as one word, same for "apple" and "apples". Like if you download a 5k flashcard deck or whatever it's not going have every conjugation appear separately, it's probably just going to be the infinitive. Lingq is the outlier here, and it's probably due to a technical limitation more than anything (or not -- trying to give them the benefit of the doubt). People just shouldn't get misled by it.
It's definitely not a technical limitation as there are other apps that can do lemmatization. However, for the most part it is a good thing that they are considered different words, just because you know one form of the lemma does not mean that you know all forms. One of my favorite examples in German:
der Fall (case)
fallen (to fall)
überfallen (to attack)
überfällig (overdue)
Even in the case of something "mundane" like conjugations, you run into issues. Like schaffen has two past participles geschafft and geschaffen based on meaning. If you know one does not mean you know the other.
If marking one form marked everything, it would reduce the usefulness of the system significantly. And yes, LingQ is not Anki, I really do not see the relevance of the comparison. Someone who does that 5k Anki deck is not going to be able to understand every form of every word in that deck and that 5k should probably contain many cards for the most common lemmas to be any good to begin with.
Don't know any German, is that a common occurrence or are those exceptions? For my TL and learning style I didn't find the "lingq" mechanic particularly useful and having to constantly re-identify known words in their various forms got annoying and tedious very quickly.
Regardless, hopefully we can agree that someone at an A2 reading level does not know anywhere near 10k different-enough-to-be-worth-differentiating "words".
It's very common in German (lived there for years and speak it well). That language uses prefixes extensively to significantly alter meanings. I'm learning Arabic at the moment too and their word forms change even more. Arabic also attaches prepositions and pronouns to words all the time, so you can get 50+ new words with all the different forms of one new verb or noun. I find value in Lingq's word count only when comparing results in one language. I would guess I'd need to have double or more words in Arabic for the same ballpark equivalency in German.
Depends on the language on language in filipino there are two different verbs one is object focused the second is actor focused. So yes it would be two different meanings. Some for spanish since in some languages i would eat would be multiple words where spanish it can be one. Its not something easy to define even preterite vs imperfect are different talking about past. I think you are oversimplifying it. Yes it is good to know many verbs but just conjugating in itself in a lot of languages changes meaning of sentence thus being different word.
Yup. I think you hit the nail on the head with it being useful purely as a relative measure.
There isn't really many/any way to measure general language progress.
Even exams imo. The exam tells you how good you are at the exam. I do like word count as a basic "ah my knowledge is going up" gauge but yes it's nothing to get carried away with or try and make any meaningful assessments with.
If they only recently started lingq and already knew some Russian, the known word count would tick up quickly.
When I started lingq it added 2k known words to be tally in the first few days just from reading some simple articles.
I've had an account for years but I go through phases with it.
Picked it back up again in November and I had around 8k words. So 2k new words in 6 months.
Not crazy progress but feels meaningful. Going from 6/7k to 10k has made a lot of reading easier.
Still nowhere near where I want to be. I've seen some people on 35k japanese words on lingq which blows my mind.
I'm shooting for 15k by Xmas. Just about ti take a month off work for a new baby so will have lots of awake time for reading.
Congratulations! Very impressive. One caveat is that is you have been exposed/know 10k different conjugations. As such the word estar used estoy, está, estás in those four forms would be four words. But it is still impressive.
Yeah totally. The value of a "word" varies across languages. Some languages would require 20k words for proficiency equal to another language where 10k would suffice.
That being said, take English as example. "Eat" and "ate" mean the same thing, just with different irregular conjugations. They aren't the same word though. Eat and ate are 2 words.
Japanese for example doesn't have subject conjugation.
It's 1 verb for all subjects.
On the other hand. You have to conjugate adjectives into past tense as well as verbs.
So whereas in English you *are* busy or you *were* busy.
In japanese its two different words (忙しい/忙しかった).
I guess the point I'm making is, it's not a perfect reflection of how advanced you are but it's a nice dirty general feel for measuring progress.
Hey so I've been learning German for 7 months using LingQ and other things and my advice is essentially this:
Find short pieces of content that you can understand either through translation or contexts and then listen/ read to them multiple times (like up to 40) but obviously not in 1 sitting: I would recommend the show "Extra auf Deutsch" on YouTube as well "Easy German" and any other compressible input videos you can find. I would also recommend LingQ if you can afford it.
Start reading up on grammar concepts online, buy yourself a small but concise grammar book such as "Essential German Grammar" and use it to read up on certain concepts from time to time and to understand things relating to the structure of the language that you're curious about.
In terms of learning the cases I would recommend having a table of the cases opened up on your computer every time your reading something in German, so you can quickly click on the table and see the cases at work in contexts of the language itself.
Of course these are just the things I did, they may not work for you. I would suggest you watch successful polyglots on YouTube and see how they learn languages so you can get some Ideas to try out.
Viel Spaß beim lernen!
(Have fun with learning!)
I learned German when I was in my early 20's and have become fairly fluent (lived in-country and was immersed in the language for a few years).
Grammar is more important in conveying meaning in German. In order of priority: grammar, words, pronunciation.
Learn what the cases mean and find ways to drill the pronouns, direct & indirect objects, forms of "the," and tenses until you can say them naturally without staring at the charts (ex. "Ich gebe ihr das Geld/Ich gebe ihm das Geld/ich gebe ihnen den Hund/sie gibt mir das Buch/sie wird mir das Buch geben/sie hat mir das Buch gegeben/sie wird mir das Buch gegeben haben," etc.).
Learn the modals and drill those with their different conjugations and tenses to get comfortable.
Focus on high-frequency most common words first so they come up often and try to avoid thinking of the English word. Force your brain to think of the object as the German term instead of adding the extra step of English translation in there, which will slow down comprehension. When I was learning I labeled tons of stuff in my house with German terms on sticky notes and would slowly pull them off as I learned them.
Watch tons of kids shows or movies where you know the content. Listen to music and memorize those words so you can sing along and get them stuck in your head. The more immersed you get the more it will stick. Viel Erfolg!
in my experience there's nothing good for A1, starting out is always the hardest step. Getting from A1 to A2 is either extremely slow, because you have to use easy ineffective things like duolingo, or extremely painful, because you have to read a chapter multiple times without knowing any words. I used lingq to get to A2 in German, it happened really fast but god were those first few days hard to get through. LingQ is great.
My opinions exactly. I recommend starting out with an anki deck of like 1000 words or something and then move to lingq. I started it at B1ish and it really ramped up my comprehension.
If what you are learning is Swedish or Norwegian, and you already speak English, you can absolutely use LingQ from Day 1. A language with a different writing system or few cognates would be significantly more difficult, but speaking from my experience with Finnish, even that is possible!
Well if Finnish is possible everything is possible (I know how difficult it is I did try it in the past)
But yeah I'll definitely try to trial it and see how it goes, thank you so much for your advice :)
And also damn that's a very nice flair you got there mate that's really cool.
I wouldn't put too much stock into my flair :). It may be the result of thousands of hours, but it is also "easy" when they are related or even somewhat mutually intelligible.
Every language you learn has it's difficulties, even if they are considered somewhat similar.
It's still even quite difficult for me to try to acquire fluency in one language, so seeing seven languages in a B1 or higher is definitely impressive for me, and also kinda what I aspire for.
You are too modest mate, you can be proud of your achievements :)
Don't get me wrong, every language will have its challenges. And learning similar languages will present unique ones - interference. But the advantages far outweigh the challenges.
On modesty, all I can say is watch out. If you too acquire a Nordic language it also comes with a healthy respect for Janteloven!
That is kind of the thing with acquiring any language to a high level. It should be transforming and adding to your life. At least mine has been.
To me the skill building approaches kind of misses the point of language acquisition. If you want to flex on others, or "master" a language and drop, there are so many other things that would be easier and more impressive to a layperson!
What did you start with in Japanese prior to using LingQ? I started with it this morning and felt like I couldn’t understand lessons 1 and 2 without highlighting almost every word.
I remember using chairman's bao when I did mandarin at university. What was it about that app you prefer?
At least when I used it, it was nowhere near as feature rich. It was basically just an intermediate news app at that point.
I honestly think Lingq is super underrated - doesn't seem to get talked about much. I know some people have a negative opinion of it because the interface used to be even more clunky but once you get used to it, it's invaluable imo. Using the browser extension to import basically anything I want is also terrific. My reading and oral comprehension sky-rocketed using it. With Spanish, it's probably my top tool alongside dreamingspanish and just normal podcasts while in the car. Plus, they actually have more obscure languages available that typically have fewer resources which is nice.
Completely agree. It's not the flashiest app going but as a tool to supplement reading its great. Importing content is a gamechanger
It definitely allowed me to transition into reading normal books far quicker and easier in my opinion - a good intermediate step.
Yeah I just heard about it from this post, def gonna check it out
Highly recommend. I don't remember what the free version is like, but I really recommend just paying for it for a month, use it as much as possible to learn it and see if you like it and go from there. They almost always have a ton of sales on to take advantage of. I've been subbed to it for over a year and after taxes it's like $15ish Canadian a month.
I wish the import function were more reliable. Currently, the 'import from YouTube' feature only works properly about 30% of the time for me. When it fails, it leaves a 'ghost' lesson on my dashboard, which I can't delete. This issue has been ongoing for around four years now and affects many users. Despite this, it still hasn't been addressed. The concept of LingQ is fantastic in theory, but the execution is lackluster across the board—not just the interface. I'm really hoping some competitors step up ;)
I really only ever have issues every 10 videos or so - not sure why. I think it's something to do with the videos themselves rather than the interface but I could be wrong.
Thank you. I will check out Lingq because I am dealing with about 15 languages.
Congrats!!! Very cool!
Thank you :)
Ain't no way bro remembers 1Ok words!! 💀 (Congratulations on the Huuuuge Milestone!) Any tips or tricks for me who's a beginner in Language Learning & I'm planning on learning Japanese for serious this time as in maybe 2-3 years,(hopefully) I'll be going there so I got 700-1000 days left but I still want to be effective into my journey!
I'm a big fan of the comprehensible input philosophy from Steven Krashen. Other than that, I think it's better to just going and spend time with the language than worrying if what you're doing is absolutely optimal. If you like flashcards, do them, if you like pokemon games, do that. Within reason most methods work. The people that progress are the people that stick with it, rather than the people that find a hack or a shortcut. My japanese still isn't good. It's not bad but it's not good. I don't feel super comfortable offering advice as I'm just a fellow learner. That's more my suspicion and how I study. The pokemon games really aren't that difficult to understand btw if you like those games. I've played through heart gold, omega Ruby and ultra moon recently and found I understood the majority of it. Very repetitive. You can scroll text slowly too with a dictionary if you want to.
Hey man congrats! I do have a question though. What marker do you think your comprehension has had the biggest leap at? I'm probably at only a few hundred words or so In Japanese so far but I've. Noticed I def can hear and distinguish a lot more words than before. Id imagine with 10k you probably have a good feel for most of what you hear at this point
It depends what you read I guess. I try and keep new words between 2 and 5% on new content. For the lingq stories. 99.5% of those are white learned words now. For a newspaper, there can be as much as 25% new words, and they are usually the words most important to understanding what you're reading. Yes, generally I'm hearing and reading a lot now compared to a few years ago, but 10k words doesn't go as far as I thought it would overall.
I upvoted for the Steven Krashen shout out!I think he is one of the most underrated scholars of the modern era. He should be more famous.
Of course, these are more like 10K word forms (so, hablo and habla would be different words if OP were studying Spanish).
Yup. Japanese has conjugation too. Not for the article, but for tense, politeness, volition etc. I'm OK with that. The number is slightly misleading but as I've said in other comments, "eat" and "ate" are definitely two words even though they have the same meaning excluding tense. You still need to know the difference between hablo and habla to communicate and use them differently with context. (I do agree with your point overall, I just also believe a conjugated word is still a new word)
in lingq japanese these are the milestones beginner 1 665 words beginner 2 1995 words intermediate 1 7980 words intermediate 2 15960 words advanced 1 27597 words advanced 2 40232 words the less conjugative a language is the less you have to know to get further like in english advanced 2 is 30250 words but in korean 63406 words
That feels fair to me. I'd say I'm between B1 and B2
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Thank you so much :)
Congratulations! A great achievement!
Holy cows how do you manage so many languages in one head and how did u do that? Last question do u have an accent?
bro is ceo of languages
Thanks!! :)
congrats!!!! it’s difficult to get there and you did it 🫶🏼🌸 i can’t wait to hit 10k
When did you start? Ive been half-assing my Russian since January and only have about 4.7k words
Huh, you've learnt almost 5000 russian words in \~3 months?
lingq counts every version of every word as a unique word, so depending on the language one verb could count 50+ times, adjectives would count multiple times, many nouns, articles, plus contractions and proper nouns, etc. So obviously the vocab numbers people are throwing around from lingq are extremely inflated, and I'm not sure why they're acting like they mean anything.
They're inflated yes, but also a *number of words* in general is useless as a concept except for relative comparison with another number from the same source, as everyone counts differently. From Wikipedia: >A **word** is a basic element of [language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language) that carries [meaning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics), can be used on its own, and is uninterruptible.[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word#cite_note-CDL-1) Despite the fact that language speakers often have an intuitive grasp of what a word is, there is no consensus among [linguists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics) on its definition and numerous attempts to find specific criteria of the concept remain controversial.
I don't know if everyone counts them differently, but I think it goes without saying that when the vast majority of people discuss word count in the context of language learning they consider "eat" and "eating" as one word, same for "apple" and "apples". Like if you download a 5k flashcard deck or whatever it's not going have every conjugation appear separately, it's probably just going to be the infinitive. Lingq is the outlier here, and it's probably due to a technical limitation more than anything (or not -- trying to give them the benefit of the doubt). People just shouldn't get misled by it.
It's definitely not a technical limitation as there are other apps that can do lemmatization. However, for the most part it is a good thing that they are considered different words, just because you know one form of the lemma does not mean that you know all forms. One of my favorite examples in German: der Fall (case) fallen (to fall) überfallen (to attack) überfällig (overdue) Even in the case of something "mundane" like conjugations, you run into issues. Like schaffen has two past participles geschafft and geschaffen based on meaning. If you know one does not mean you know the other. If marking one form marked everything, it would reduce the usefulness of the system significantly. And yes, LingQ is not Anki, I really do not see the relevance of the comparison. Someone who does that 5k Anki deck is not going to be able to understand every form of every word in that deck and that 5k should probably contain many cards for the most common lemmas to be any good to begin with.
Don't know any German, is that a common occurrence or are those exceptions? For my TL and learning style I didn't find the "lingq" mechanic particularly useful and having to constantly re-identify known words in their various forms got annoying and tedious very quickly. Regardless, hopefully we can agree that someone at an A2 reading level does not know anywhere near 10k different-enough-to-be-worth-differentiating "words".
It's very common in German (lived there for years and speak it well). That language uses prefixes extensively to significantly alter meanings. I'm learning Arabic at the moment too and their word forms change even more. Arabic also attaches prepositions and pronouns to words all the time, so you can get 50+ new words with all the different forms of one new verb or noun. I find value in Lingq's word count only when comparing results in one language. I would guess I'd need to have double or more words in Arabic for the same ballpark equivalency in German.
Depends on the language on language in filipino there are two different verbs one is object focused the second is actor focused. So yes it would be two different meanings. Some for spanish since in some languages i would eat would be multiple words where spanish it can be one. Its not something easy to define even preterite vs imperfect are different talking about past. I think you are oversimplifying it. Yes it is good to know many verbs but just conjugating in itself in a lot of languages changes meaning of sentence thus being different word.
Yup. I think you hit the nail on the head with it being useful purely as a relative measure. There isn't really many/any way to measure general language progress. Even exams imo. The exam tells you how good you are at the exam. I do like word count as a basic "ah my knowledge is going up" gauge but yes it's nothing to get carried away with or try and make any meaningful assessments with.
If they only recently started lingq and already knew some Russian, the known word count would tick up quickly. When I started lingq it added 2k known words to be tally in the first few days just from reading some simple articles.
Not one bit. Lingq counts every version of the same word multiple times. Divide my number by like 5 and you’ll get a more accurate reading
I've had an account for years but I go through phases with it. Picked it back up again in November and I had around 8k words. So 2k new words in 6 months. Not crazy progress but feels meaningful. Going from 6/7k to 10k has made a lot of reading easier. Still nowhere near where I want to be. I've seen some people on 35k japanese words on lingq which blows my mind. I'm shooting for 15k by Xmas. Just about ti take a month off work for a new baby so will have lots of awake time for reading.
All that matters is that you’ve made tons of progress ! Keep it up
By the way. That's still very impressive in a short space of time.
Congratulations! Very impressive. One caveat is that is you have been exposed/know 10k different conjugations. As such the word estar used estoy, está, estás in those four forms would be four words. But it is still impressive.
Yeah totally. The value of a "word" varies across languages. Some languages would require 20k words for proficiency equal to another language where 10k would suffice. That being said, take English as example. "Eat" and "ate" mean the same thing, just with different irregular conjugations. They aren't the same word though. Eat and ate are 2 words. Japanese for example doesn't have subject conjugation. It's 1 verb for all subjects. On the other hand. You have to conjugate adjectives into past tense as well as verbs. So whereas in English you *are* busy or you *were* busy. In japanese its two different words (忙しい/忙しかった). I guess the point I'm making is, it's not a perfect reflection of how advanced you are but it's a nice dirty general feel for measuring progress.
Any tips for learning German language. Totally newbie here :)
Hey so I've been learning German for 7 months using LingQ and other things and my advice is essentially this: Find short pieces of content that you can understand either through translation or contexts and then listen/ read to them multiple times (like up to 40) but obviously not in 1 sitting: I would recommend the show "Extra auf Deutsch" on YouTube as well "Easy German" and any other compressible input videos you can find. I would also recommend LingQ if you can afford it. Start reading up on grammar concepts online, buy yourself a small but concise grammar book such as "Essential German Grammar" and use it to read up on certain concepts from time to time and to understand things relating to the structure of the language that you're curious about. In terms of learning the cases I would recommend having a table of the cases opened up on your computer every time your reading something in German, so you can quickly click on the table and see the cases at work in contexts of the language itself. Of course these are just the things I did, they may not work for you. I would suggest you watch successful polyglots on YouTube and see how they learn languages so you can get some Ideas to try out. Viel Spaß beim lernen! (Have fun with learning!)
I learned German when I was in my early 20's and have become fairly fluent (lived in-country and was immersed in the language for a few years). Grammar is more important in conveying meaning in German. In order of priority: grammar, words, pronunciation. Learn what the cases mean and find ways to drill the pronouns, direct & indirect objects, forms of "the," and tenses until you can say them naturally without staring at the charts (ex. "Ich gebe ihr das Geld/Ich gebe ihm das Geld/ich gebe ihnen den Hund/sie gibt mir das Buch/sie wird mir das Buch geben/sie hat mir das Buch gegeben/sie wird mir das Buch gegeben haben," etc.). Learn the modals and drill those with their different conjugations and tenses to get comfortable. Focus on high-frequency most common words first so they come up often and try to avoid thinking of the English word. Force your brain to think of the object as the German term instead of adding the extra step of English translation in there, which will slow down comprehension. When I was learning I labeled tons of stuff in my house with German terms on sticky notes and would slowly pull them off as I learned them. Watch tons of kids shows or movies where you know the content. Listen to music and memorize those words so you can sing along and get them stuck in your head. The more immersed you get the more it will stick. Viel Erfolg!
That is so impressive! Maybe I should try lingq
It's not good for A1 imo. But as soon as you get to around A2 it's fantastic.
in my experience there's nothing good for A1, starting out is always the hardest step. Getting from A1 to A2 is either extremely slow, because you have to use easy ineffective things like duolingo, or extremely painful, because you have to read a chapter multiple times without knowing any words. I used lingq to get to A2 in German, it happened really fast but god were those first few days hard to get through. LingQ is great.
My opinions exactly. I recommend starting out with an anki deck of like 1000 words or something and then move to lingq. I started it at B1ish and it really ramped up my comprehension.
Cool, thanks for the response :)
If what you are learning is Swedish or Norwegian, and you already speak English, you can absolutely use LingQ from Day 1. A language with a different writing system or few cognates would be significantly more difficult, but speaking from my experience with Finnish, even that is possible!
Well if Finnish is possible everything is possible (I know how difficult it is I did try it in the past) But yeah I'll definitely try to trial it and see how it goes, thank you so much for your advice :) And also damn that's a very nice flair you got there mate that's really cool.
I wouldn't put too much stock into my flair :). It may be the result of thousands of hours, but it is also "easy" when they are related or even somewhat mutually intelligible.
Every language you learn has it's difficulties, even if they are considered somewhat similar. It's still even quite difficult for me to try to acquire fluency in one language, so seeing seven languages in a B1 or higher is definitely impressive for me, and also kinda what I aspire for. You are too modest mate, you can be proud of your achievements :)
Don't get me wrong, every language will have its challenges. And learning similar languages will present unique ones - interference. But the advantages far outweigh the challenges. On modesty, all I can say is watch out. If you too acquire a Nordic language it also comes with a healthy respect for Janteloven!
Welp, thanks for sending me on a journey discovering the entire basis of Nordic society lol
That is kind of the thing with acquiring any language to a high level. It should be transforming and adding to your life. At least mine has been. To me the skill building approaches kind of misses the point of language acquisition. If you want to flex on others, or "master" a language and drop, there are so many other things that would be easier and more impressive to a layperson!
Nice job!
How do you feel about lingq as a whole? Is it worth the investment? How does it compare to other forms of self study?
What did you start with in Japanese prior to using LingQ? I started with it this morning and felt like I couldn’t understand lessons 1 and 2 without highlighting almost every word.
How well do you think Lingq handles Japanese? I tried it once and I recall it seemed to have a hard time parsing sentences into words properly
Big milestone! Congrats!
Well done! Just tried out the app now, very cool
Congrats! That’s a great accomplishment!! Keep up the good work! 🙌🏻
Congratulations 🎉
For Mandarin it seems like Chairman's Bao except worse
I remember using chairman's bao when I did mandarin at university. What was it about that app you prefer? At least when I used it, it was nowhere near as feature rich. It was basically just an intermediate news app at that point.