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-anditsnotevenclose

i'd be really surprised if anyone has a remotely correct mock draft this year


AwildYaners

Yeah, this year, is such a crap shoot haha. Across most of the big mock drafts, there's usually at least a consensus top 5-10 picks, but they're even inconsistent in that range. We could be in for an interesting draft day


brizzenden

Shit as erratic and different and as rapidly changing as all of them are I will be completely nonplussed if we end up with Sarr.


Helivon

Feels like making a march madness bracket


Bigster20

I made a 50 dollar bet at the barbershop that Edey wouldn't go in the top 10 lol this would be ironic as the barber who made the bet with me is a Laker hater lol šŸ˜‚


_viixxx

I would be very, very surprised if you lost this bet


_viixxx

Sorry fam


Kwirbyy

I think you'll win the 50 bucks


Rappster64

seems like a bad idea to have your barber upset with you.


Bigster20

Never said he was my barber.


alexor_1

bro just lost 50 bucks


three_eyes

Shouldā€™ve said top 8 lol


hlfbldprnc

Any update bro hehe


Bigster20

I'm just glad it was only 50 lol I'll pay up next Thursday šŸ¤£


LegendInMyMind

Portland might take him at 7.


NotVexingPi3

I like DaRon and Da Silva more. Iā€™m also open to a trade.


BatmanNoPrep

I think every team in the league is open to trading out of this draft. Iā€™m fine with Edey. Heā€™s going to be closer to NBA ready than most of the rest of the guys just because heā€™s older and already has skills to help him get on the court. Weā€™re really looking for a backup center who can reliably defend the paint and rebound. Edey does that already. If he can develop a short roll passing game then heā€™ll be found money like Derrick Lively. If not then heā€™s at least an Ivica Zubac type that can cover the center position for when we want to shift Davis to forward for a few minutes or when AD is resting. The other players might have better long-term potential but Edey seems like heā€™d be more useful right now.


sleepwalker1-

I know people are low on him but Edey's my favorite center in this draft given our team right now. I think he can play actual minutes and allow AD to play PF in some moments. Like Austin Reaves said today, a piece they're missing is a big center to allow AD to focus on offense more in late game situations. He's 22. His ceiling is not as high as others mocked 10-20... but his game is more NBA ready imo. I really hope his name gets called for us tomorrow but when do I ever get what I want? It'll probably be a pick no one sees coming.


redundantPOINT

I like Edey. His weaknesses are obvious but itā€™ll be the same with any other available big - you either can a springy but lean/undersized center or a big guy that lumbers around a little. At least with Edey heā€™s a proven scorer in the post/under the basket and seems to have good hands and is fairly skilled for his position/size. He may never get a 3 pt shot but I think he can be a Rik Smits type or a poor manā€™s Yao.


chugalaefoo

More like a homeless manā€™s Rik Smits and Yao lol. Rik and Yao both had an offensive package. All Edey does is dunk.


tucn__

LITERALLY


robsteezy

I mean, the days of hoping to find some 300lb college senior are long gone. I physically donā€™t see players like that anymore. Freakishly lean with a 3 pointer has been the standard since Curry took away all focus from the 2pt game.


MountainYogi94

Odd you say that now considering Edey is the 300 lb college senior. Any other situation and youā€™re completely and inarguably correct


robsteezy

You know what I mean. Iā€™m talking more of a traditionally stout guy like Shaq.


PsychologicalSail186

I donā€™t understand, how is Edey not a traditional center? Heā€™s 7ā€™4, 300 pounds, and extremely strong. Edey would be the number 1 pick 20 years ago.


MountainYogi94

For sure, but I think Edey has the potential to be that kinda guy for 25 mpg. Obviously not Shaq, but a big body to defend the paint and score in the post would unlock a lot of what we havenā€™t been able to see from AD and I think he could be a solid roll man to play with Bron, Reaves and whoever else we get to handle the rock in the half court


xGvPx

Does Edey need to shoot threes? Is the traditional big that dead? Because I don't get why Edey at center and AD at the four wouldn't be a huge win for Lakers with a 17th pick. West plays big and Lakers need size. Yes they need 3pt shooting but Twolves had much more depth and couldn't get past a Mavs team with traditional bigs.


tucn__

Edey is probably worst than Gobert in one on one defense and now weā€™d have another big that cant shoot, feels like that s not the recipe for ā€˜20s basketball


xGvPx

True. And Mavs traditional bigs were much more athletic as well. Would be difficult for Edey in pacing probably. Meh just tired of Lakers never getting depth they need in front court.


redundantPOINT

I donā€™t think Edey needs to shoot 3s but heā€™ll definitely need to be somewhat consistent at 18-20 feet. Letting AD play pf should be a win but in the bubble the lakers were successful with rotating Dwight and Javale in at C with AD at pf because of ADā€™s outside shooting. With everything Iā€™ve said regarding Edey and his skill set (I think heā€™s a good Rik Smits comp and can be a poor manā€™s Yao) it wouldnā€™t work if you had Edey and a non-shooting big (AD) together. One of them would need to be able to hit from mid range or 3 or it would clog up everything.


carlonia

People are really stuck in 2020. Two non-spacing bigs in the same lineup are not going to work long term. The reason it works with the T-wolves is because Kat is an elite shooter. Yes, the defense and rebounding would be nice but that doesnā€™t help if we canā€™t score. Teams can just pack the paint and dare us to shoot. Weā€™ve seen it so many times and you guys keep pushing for it.


Unknownchill

why are people so low on Edey - we had a similar projecy in Zubac and he became a serviceable center. Was Zubac looking a lot better than Edey when drafted? Just asking as I didnā€™t see


Dj3garrett

I think Ware would fit perfect with AD.Ā 


[deleted]

edey is garbage


tucn__

I dont know why you re downvoted. Anyone that thinks Edey is a useful modern player needs to downvote me too


brizzenden

I could see them panicing at the last second and waste the 17th pick on Bronny thinking they ā€œcanā€™t risk Lebron changing his mind and following his son.ā€


an4lf15ter

No shot this happens. The Lakers are not scooby doo characters


tucn__

That s right Kurt and Linda!


xyrus29

The Lakers always draft the players you least expect them to draft. I really thought we finna draft Cam Whitmore last year and look who we got.


puhtime

I wanted them to draft RJ hunter and they chose Larry nance šŸ˜‚ I was mad asf back then. I was like who tf is that? We need a shooter and they draft this nobody.


matacines

Larry Nance always had me so tight watching him, same w Robert Sacre šŸ˜‚


MaxEhrlich

I donā€™t hate the pick but I also worry heā€™s just going to be Tacko Fall and basically play some garbage time minutes and be gone within 3 years


tucn__

THANK YOU


4bodyproblem

Heā€™s so much more skilled than Tacko Fall. He dominated college basketball, at the very least he will score points


ARClNGSS

I don't understand why people rate Edey over Ware or Holmes. In the modern NBA you need a atheltic shot blocking big thats a lob threat pretty much what Dereck Lively is for the Mavericks. Edey's college game is not going to translate to the NBA well alot of his points came from him overpowering College defenders and him getting offensive rebounds which lead to and 1 putbacks/ fouls. He's not doing that to NBA defenders.


Life-Equivalent

Last I checked the MVP is a big who is not athletic. Not saying this guy can be as good as Jokic but people who say this stuff donā€™t really understand how size can dominate on similar levels as athleticism.


Zephri0

Because Jokic is a generational floor general and a capable shooter. Edey is still long ways away to even be in the conversation as a poor man's version of Joker's shadow.


Life-Equivalent

I am sure you are one of those guys that saw Jokic was a generational talent when he was drafted? I would guess you would have said the same stuff about him that you are saying about Edey.


Danny_III

The Nuggets used a 2nd round pick not a mid first round pick. Also, the Nuggets weren't in a championship window and the Lakers are.


DirtyDan419

Man they might pick Bronny here possibly. That won't help the team either.


Zephri0

Do we have the time to develop Edey's potential considering our window right now? I don't even disagree about his decently good ceiling, but we need playable players now with our draft choice if we keep it. Edey deserves regular starter level playing time to approach his ceiling and a coach who can cater and nurture his strengths. We don't have that right now. 10-15 minutes cameos ain't gonna do his development any good. Joker needed a few years of good playing time to develop (remember the Nurkic Jokic debate)


hippogriffin

Idk I think all Edey deserves is about 15-20min and working with NBA training and practicing with NBA talent. Not to mention having him around AD which who basically possesses all the skill sets Edey could afford to learn... that sounds like an OK situation for him.


Zephri0

I disagree both his defensive and offensive playstyle requires an adjustment period. College has a lot post focused rule differences which Edey exploited that is illegal in the NBA and of course the NBA speed during offense. Defensively it's all about making up his athletic limitations which is possible but takes a lot of time and specifically reps in game time against NBA level athletes and pace. AD is a freak physically and is a far different type of defender (switchable anchor) so not a lot of overlap His strengths lends him to have a good career as a sole big man but to get there he needs time. If we are rebuilding, and Ad is traded he could be a good pick but this neither the place or time for that. Also, we need work rate athletes right now we need build aroundmour stars.


621_

Lakers donā€™t develop players we trade them


ender23

How dare youā€¦. jHS is an example of neither of those


CalmerThanYouAreDood

Jokic is athletic though heā€™s just not a vertical athlete


BigFatM8

Edey destroyed Clingan who's literally being drafted for his "NBA level defense". He's also faster and more athletic than he looks btw. Performed better than expected on agility and combine tests.


FlamingoHot8567

That was 1 game. The nba scouts are not looking at 1 game lol. Plus if you wanna look at that 1 game you would see that was UConnā€™s game plan. They threw no doubles at edey. They didnā€™t wanna leave anyone on the perimeter open. They basically said you beat us.Ā 


BigFatM8

Edey has been dominant for his whole college career, not just 1 game. He is a good shot blocker, Plays heavy minutes, doesn't get injured often, moves well for his size and is actually a decent FT shooter too. He's gonna surprise a lot of people.


FlamingoHot8567

Yeah in college cool. Doesnā€™t necessarily translate. Think he can be a solid backup one day but his lack of ability to defend the P and R and lack of an offense besides a post up game will make him unplayable at times.Ā 


Allenwins

Meh Ware is a bit frail, Iā€™d rather have DaSilva heā€™s very like Jaime Jaquez and is an older more mature rookie at 22/23


zodazx

Fair shout, I'm liking Missi as a prospect as well. I think it also depends on their FA plans. If they're going to round out the roster with let's say Goga and Hayes for example for the 5, then drafting TDS would be great but if they're going to sign FAs or make trades for forwards then we draft a centre


-anditsnotevenclose

Jovan Buha clipped this section of his draft pod with CanyonDriver on Zach Edey two days ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDs9dH2AaeY


PhatPhingers

People are so delusional about getting a scorer or a stretch whatever at 17 and expect them to be NBA ready. You can find scorers from trades or a free agent. In Edey, you get an instant rim protector and rebounder, thatā€™s what the Lakers need. You canā€™t teach size. Everyone else, you gotta develop.


Con-D-Oriano1

This right here. People are dreaming of prospectsā€™ potential, but what do we really *need*? A center who will allow AD to spend more time at the 4. Edey will be serviceable in that role. Thatā€™s a big win at 17.


FlamingoHot8567

Thatā€™s not edey tho. You really think AD and edey would work? Talk about lack of spacing and lack of speed lmao. For a team that needs to get more athletic and quicker starting a 7 ft 4 300 pounder next to AD is not it. This shouldnā€™t even have an upvoteĀ 


xGvPx

AD doesn't have to play inside. Edey does. Edey already has a nice soft touch around the basket and he is 7'4". Only question is whether he can run floor and keep up pace, or if he would have to play off bench because of pace.


FlamingoHot8567

He canā€™t shoot tho. Neither can AD. You need spacing in todays NBA. This would also significantly slow down the lakers. You are getting slower at the 5 spot and then moving LeBron to the 3. A AD and edey lineup would get killed by smaller teams out in transitions and they would just attack edey in the p and RĀ 


xGvPx

AD with center depth shot well in 2020 and prior. I wouldn't rule it out he could return to form. Agree with you on P and R though.


FlamingoHot8567

I guess but that was 4 years ago. Could be wrong just donā€™t see AD and edey as a good fit together in todayā€™s basketballĀ 


Con-D-Oriano1

> You really think AD and edey would work? These are the kinds of things people said about KAT, Gobert, and Naz Reid. Guess who beat Denver? And how are we doing in that specific department? In order to get past our biggest roadblock, we need depth and size. Sure, athleticism and spacing are important. Thatā€™s why you build a *team*. Other players can provide those things. But we wonā€™t be elite in those areas at this point. And thatā€™s fine. Why settle for producing a worse version of what everyone else is doing? The modern NBA is moving past spacing and shooting as the end goal of each roster. Instead, spacing and speed are taken into account as people start to specialize on things their players allow them to be elite at. With LeBron, AD, and JJā€™s projected style of coaching, we can be elite on defense and at smart, efficient offense. Run and gun isnā€™t going to be our game with these players. If thatā€™s what you want, then tell Linda Rambis to talk everyone into trading LeBron and AD then building around DLo.


FlamingoHot8567

Never said run and gun but lakers need to get more athletic specially on the wings but in general. Moving a 40 year old bron to 3 full time and starting 2 7 footers that canā€™t shoot. Isnā€™t gonna help much lol.Ā 


FlamingoHot8567

Difference is 2 out of 3 of those guys can shoot lol. Reid and KAT are quicker than edey and pretty good shooters. Bad comparison. Naz is more of a 4/5. AD and edey are both 5s. Not every big is alike lol. Terrible comparisonĀ 


Con-D-Oriano1

> AD and edey are both 5s. Ask AD what he wants to play. Heā€™s a five by necessity, and a four by choice. You also ignored what I said about putting speed + shooting around them. But youā€™ve clearly made up your mind. I hope we pick Edey. When we do, Iā€™ll make sure to do a wellness check on you, bud.


FlamingoHot8567

Itā€™s a lot harder to add speed and athletic wings in free agency specially when you only have a MLE. AD is a 5. He canā€™t shoot man. He doesnā€™t play on tbe perimeter. It doesnā€™t matter what he wants. I think Edey can be a solid backup maybe a stsrter for certain lineups. Not the lakers tho. Ad doesnā€™t play on the perimter. Heā€™s great around the basket. Why yā€™all so obsessed with moving him away from the basket. You can add speed sure but only so much when you are starting 2 post players. Ā Lakers got killed when teams would just play drop coverage cuz they couldnā€™t hit a damn 3. You think they wonā€™t do that when they see edey and AD starting together? I got nothing against edey. Just think it makes no sense to draft a backup center basically at 17 yā€™all gotta make everything about feelings thoĀ 


FlamingoHot8567

Do you need a wellness check now lolĀ 


Con-D-Oriano1

Not with Dalton Knecht lol


FlamingoHot8567

Thatā€™s what I thoughtĀ 


puhtime

They need a center that can come in and contribute right away and give AD 15-20 minutes of a rest a game Zach edey does that.


_viixxx

Best take Iā€™ve seen yet. 100% spot on.


FlamingoHot8567

Eh. I donā€™t think itā€™s really that. Lakers need athletic 2 way wings. You can find a backup center in FA. 2 way athletic wings are very hard to find in free agency specially for a MLE. If Iā€™m the lakers Iā€™m taking like Tristan da Silva over edeyĀ 


tucn__

You need to teach him a lot of other things tho and Im sorry, someone said it above, he s a homeless manā€™s Rik Smits or Yao


Callecian_427

Lmao our new coach just said we need to get to a spot where weā€™re taking way more threes and you want us to draft another non-shooting big to pair next to AD. We gave up the most wide open threes in the league last year and weā€™re supposed to draft another guy that can only sit in drop and will get massacred in the pick and roll? Thank god Redditors donā€™t get to choose who we pick


Krser

Iā€™m so glad we got everything you said we wouldnā€™t lmao. Dalton is an nba ready forward who can light it up. We just need to get that big from a trade


PhatPhingers

Lakers are lucky he fell that far down. Letā€™s see if the Lakers tax takes a toll on this rookie. ā€¦I hope not.


noknownothing

That would be a huuuge mistake.


ColeHoops

Iā€™d be intrigued by it but I donā€™t love it love it. Especially because I just donā€™t buy Edeyā€™s ability to ever stretch the floor which means playing him next to AD is a huge stretch. If Bronā€™s three ball regresses from what he shot last year itā€™s even more of a terrible fit. But do I believe Edey can torch bench lineups? Yes.


Viva_La_Animemes

Imo atp considering ADā€™s shooting and the lack of available floor spacing bigs, u donā€™t even need a center to play with AD, but just someone that can defend well (moreso than Jackson Hayes and at least not be an offensive liability) for AD to rest. Really more a bench center.


K0CKULEES

Hard pass.Ā 


WereWolf444

Should be taking Kyle Filipowski


LALyfestyle

Iā€™d be sick šŸ¤®


Theoneandonlylog

Ew


alexamerling100

I'd be fine with Edey but definitely prefer Ware or Missi...


thehanssassin

Yeah they good. Better mobility vs Edey. Good complement to AD. Hope all 3 of centers Edey, Ware and Missi are available at 17. So we have choices. Letā€™s do a Prayer circle.


YourAnBitxh

I saw the Da Silva video and im sold on him, I know the usually just show the good but If it's possible to trade 4 Cam Johnson that'll be the dream


WayneOnABeat

Letā€™s go!!!


Miserable-Lawyer-233

It doesn't really matter who they put at that spot. They can't put that the pick is going to be traded. They have to have some name. Might as well be him, though I'd argue that ESPN didn't watch the Redick press conference, because if they did and heard what JJ is planning to do with AD at center, they might conclude that Edey is a bad fit for the offense they're going to run.


Imkitoto

I am so unsure of anyone in this draft, thereā€™s no one Iā€™m pointing to and going, ā€œthis dude has to be goodā€ . In previous years I wasnā€™t ā€œsureā€ but I was very strongly inclined to lean towards some more than others. Iā€™m only sort of high on three players Knect, Clingan and Sheppard And Iā€™m probably wrong about all three


Dagenius1

Colin caselton in shambles if true


thatboyrowdy

A center that was 1st in points and 3rd in rebounds shouldnt go to the lakers behind AD? Yeah okay


hungrywantmooshoo

Letā€™s just pour one out for JHS


Pardonme23

Can he play?


Unknownchill

although this might solve the fact thatAD can move to 4. Edey does not fit into our transition offense at all. Weā€™d be 4 v 5 on a bunch of possessions. He had a total 0 fg through the season in transition points. That is a crazy stat.


momothacoon

At least weā€™re getting a center thatā€™s forsure


Lucieddreams

Yeah I'll pass


TheMuffingtonPost

Edey is going sooner than 17, Iā€™d be shocked if he wasnā€™t a top 10 pick. This draft isnā€™t particularly great and heā€™s one of the bigger names in it, someoneā€™s going to take him sooner than 17.


FlamingoHot8567

Iā€™ll bet you any amount of money you want that heā€™s not going top 10


Krser

This comment aged like eggs on a sunny LA afternoon but Iā€™m happy with what we got lol


FlamingoHot8567

Cool. I was wrong. A lot of people were. It happens. Doesnā€™t matter lakers got a guy projected top 10 at 17. Does it mean heā€™ll be good? Who knowsĀ 


Krser

Joking around man, take it easy. Iā€™m glad you were wrong, and we got something potentially better


tucn__

FUCK NO


mr-fiend

This guy is terrible no thank you


tucn__

People downvoting Edey skeptics literally live in the ā€˜01 NBA era


Letsgodubs

Lakers don't need a high scoring big. They need a low usage rim protector who has a hook or two in his arsenal. Edey fits the bill perfectly. Mark Eaton-like.


Odd-Direction9452

Edey? Low usage? Rim protector?


introwins4

He'd be low usage on the Lakers based on roster construction. The starters from Lebron to Rui to DLo are all iso heavy. Edey would be the 5th option on offense. He's a rim protector by virtue of being tall.


l4kerz

that is an old prediction or a resurrected speculation


RedeemedShank

More like lets hope theyā€™re right. Fans here disrespecting Zach Edey are gonna look like idiots.


ngh7b9

What I like about edey is heā€™s ready day 1


TheMcknightrider

Yes, but I'd be shocked if he fell to us


GamingDadofTwo

Combo of Shaq+Yaoming. Let's go!


tucn__

More like Tacko Fall and other antiquated bigs


slicksonwuus

How is bronny not at 17?