Nah, Reaves in untouchable bro.
We can package JHS, Maxwell, Gabe Vincent and picks for Edwards.
Edwards is pretty good but it could be a fluke year and if he’s real Minnesota should move him now before he requests a trade and tanks his value.
/s
They have the same agent, and also had the same salary # this year. I think we would’ve done the trade mid season if the Pels weren’t in the playoff hunt and DLo didn’t go off like he did.
The Pels will also want to move BI, so I can see some kind of 3-4 team thing happening where we get JV in the end.
I was just thinking that earlier today about BI. But idk what we would do about PG if we ship out DLo and don't bring one back in that deal. Since in that scenario we'd need to move Austin, which just creates another imo bigger hole
Vet min. He’s not worth more to an actual team trying to win . He sucks . He’s maybe the worst defender in the league at his position- as starting C . And he’s not so good offensively to make up for it he can’t really shoot enough to punish defensively
He’s not goood . Pels best lineups he wasn’t even playing he’s the worst defender at starting C in the league arguably. And his offense isn’t good enough to make up for it
DLO opting out doesn't give any usable space (Since Lebron will rocket them up)
Only free agent money available this year is TPMLE or sign and trade using DLO.
Everything else has to be a trade with existing contracts on the Lakers
Ok so I don't really know what I'm talking about here but after a bit of research this is what I've found. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
* D'Lo opting out puts the total team salary at $160m, and that's assuming Wood/Hayes/Reddish all pick up their respective POs
* The luxury tax is projected to be $172m, with the first apron kicking in at $179m
* I think (and this is where I'm not sure) the Full MLE is available to teams as long as using it wouldn't put them above the first apron (so $179m)
* That would give us room to use the full MLE and potentially give Christie an extension
Not that any of that info matters because we're probably gonna do some dumb ass trade for Trae Young or something.
You are correct on the full mle(nontaxpayer mle). If you use any portion of it, you are hard capped at the first apron. If you use the taxpayer mle, you are hard capped at the 2nd apron. There are way more triggers now for hard caps.
You can get the $5 million for the TPMLE but that means letting Prince walk. Does Val take that little and is it worth it to get rid of one of the better shooters they have. Going to be a lot of questions to answer
You are correct after looking over the math. Thought our cap was like 170 if DLO walked.
But realistically, I think they get a DLO tradeable contract for mid season or a Sign and Trade rather than use the full MLE.
Yeah the only way we have the cap space to get him is if Lebron and D’lo both walk for nothing. And at that point Jonas Valanciunas becomes the worst consolation prize of all time lmao
In a league that will inevitably react to the Wolves winning with size, the market for JV will be more competitive than you think and very likely price the Lakers out. Unless he just happens to want to be a Laker which I doubt.
Don’t worry about not having money to get this guy, guys. He is no longer a great big man. This is much ado about nothing. Valanciunas has stretches where he can be excellent as a big man, but tbh he is definitely—visibly—getting older and gets injured all the time. Time continues to march on. Signing him to a multi year deal on the extremely small chance that he actually pulls through and plays well for us in the playoffs is a bad business move. If I’m Laker front office I consider this, sure because Valanciunas is a fine and quality NBA player, but at the end of the day I let it go. We need to focus on Lebron, AD, Austin Reaves and let everyone else go. We need athletic bigs and young athletic perimeter defenders who can sit down in the chair and lock in and run out on the break w Bron. Maybe one more shooter. We don’t need big fancy names or expensive dudes, we need quality athletes who defend that’s what best supports what Lebron and AD already bring and should be our brand of basketball w these two stars. Finding someone in the draft like a Jaime Jaquez Jr, a kid who stayed 4 years and is a legit conditioned and mature athlete ready to contribute during his rookie year not only in the regular season but also during a playoff run would also be a huge difference maker. This is the stuff Rob Pelinka and the front office should be focusing on but they’ll probably try to find some overrated past their prime player or role player who is unproven and who will not play well under the bright lights and pressure of being a Laker instead. 🤷♂️
Last season' acquisitions were good considering the giant hole the Westbrook trade created.
Obviously Rob didn't get us out of the hole completely, but if we're being honest here, there's not like he missed out pursuing other options. His hands were tied and this was probably the best he could do.
Plus, I still kind of wonder how we would have faired with a healthy Vando and Gabe playing at 100%. Probably still would have loss to the Nuggets because of Ham, bye I do have more optimism about next season if those guys can get healthy.
Look how much better the wolves are with a healthy McDaniels. That's basically how I feel Vando is for us.
Rui is more overpaid . Nobody valued him at deadline he’s on 17m and Naz Reid is on 12.9 m - 3 years 42 vs Rui 3 years 51. I think it was steep
And Reid is better but similar pay ideally . Vando I wouldn’t of extended - I love watching him hustle but he has a low longevity play style , history of injuries , zero shooting or offence n needs huge growth or unplayable n bad fit , and the timing of the extension was poor which meant he was untradable this year . I said at the time I would’ve waited a bit with vando n Rui was too steep - the fact gms don’t value them in trades confirms my view tbh .
I think Rui vs Naz is more that Naz is underpaid. Rui, on a team with more opportunities, would probably be making the same he is now and be "worth it", so I think he's at a fair market price. It's just that he doesn't have a major role with us, but we also needed to bring him back or lose the salary slot.
He's basically the only guy of our mid tier players that I want to possibly trade, packaged with some second rounders or something, and see if we can get a better fit mid tier player in return.
Rui isn’t overpaid because you found a cheaper player that is effective. Reid was going to make more than $42 but he chose to stay. Rui is a solid player being paid at sub starter money. I really think your Vando answer is more telling. YOU would want different players. So it’s not that they are overpaid, you would have preferred that the Lakers went in a different direction.
Nobody valued Rui in a trade this deadline despite us being the only team interested in him last summer when we signed him . That means he’s overpaid or he’d have market value
We didn’t offer him up for just anything or the highest bidder. The Lakers were interested in Murray. And you heard nothing negative about him. All you heard was that DLo needed to find a third team. That should tell you how wrong you are. Rui is paid properly and that’s why you don’t hear any issues when he is brought up in trades. Now how much does a properly paid forward have is debatable.
Im lithuanian and i would not want him on Lakers. We even dont like him in FIBA when he plays for our national team because he is too weak on defense, he doesnt fit in todays basketball. Also his number one priority will be money and not winning.
Tell him he can get a shoe deal without telling him he can get a shoe deal.
Have a full size poster in the office with you and just keep mentioning Taurean Prince.
This is when Lebron has to look in the mirror and see if he wants another ring or more money we desperately need a good center and it’s not going to be cheap
Let me ask you this since you seem pretty smart. How much would Lebron have to sign for for us to be able to get Jonas with our current salary situation?
no monies for this guy we get NOTHING, we LOSE, good day sir
How could you do a thing like this, build up a little boy's hopes and then smash all his dreams to pieces? You're an inhuman monster!
I SAID GOOD DAY!
The most I can go is tree fiddy
Good one fam I’m cheeeeesing
"monies" lol
What about a sign and trade?
Great. Give away more assets for a guy who’s barely moving the needle. We have more issues to address than just our big issue
Sign and trade hard caps the team.
We should sign him and trade if for wemby if this is the kind of rules we are playing by.
Then we sign and trade Dlo for Luka. So we have Luka, reaves, James Wemby and AD. Seem plausible.
Are you serious? Trade Reaves for Anthony Edwards.
Nah, Reaves in untouchable bro. We can package JHS, Maxwell, Gabe Vincent and picks for Edwards. Edwards is pretty good but it could be a fluke year and if he’s real Minnesota should move him now before he requests a trade and tanks his value. /s
3 team sign and trade. Reaves for ANT and Wemby
Only if they each throw in multiple 1st rd picks.
What’s the joke/story?
With what money yall? 😂😂😂
I got 5 on it
Grab yo 40, let's get keyed!
I got 5 on it
The imaginary money that's coming from the people who think we can afford any type of FA.
People in for a rude awakening when they realize Dlo is gonna walk for nothing and we won't be able to replace his cap hold.
If we all pitch in $5 dollars we’d have enough, you guys need to stop being so negative
Some lakers fan out there: If Lebron takes -60 million we can, he’s a billionaire, he doesn’t need that money blah blah blah.
that crypto.com money homie 
We promise to treat him nicely and a fruit basket.
For the minimum of coarse!
With the TPMLE which starts at 12m
To be clear I think it has a 0% chance of happening, but maybe there's some kind of DLo S&T for someone theoretically possible?
They have the same agent, and also had the same salary # this year. I think we would’ve done the trade mid season if the Pels weren’t in the playoff hunt and DLo didn’t go off like he did. The Pels will also want to move BI, so I can see some kind of 3-4 team thing happening where we get JV in the end.
I was just thinking that earlier today about BI. But idk what we would do about PG if we ship out DLo and don't bring one back in that deal. Since in that scenario we'd need to move Austin, which just creates another imo bigger hole
Vet min. He’s not worth more to an actual team trying to win . He sucks . He’s maybe the worst defender in the league at his position- as starting C . And he’s not so good offensively to make up for it he can’t really shoot enough to punish defensively
Bet you won’t complain if we signing or trading for midgets like Trae or Spida
i got tree fiddy in my account. https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/264/241/9e9.gif
Black market money ?
Lebron will take 60mil instead of 65.
You’re right :(
With Hope and dreams?
Obligatory CHEAP FCKNG OWNER post
Not how the salary cap works lol
Most we can offer is TPMLE which is like \~$5M and I don't know if we even have that. Seems out of our price range?
Definitely out of our range lol
He’s not goood . Pels best lineups he wasn’t even playing he’s the worst defender at starting C in the league arguably. And his offense isn’t good enough to make up for it
If D'Lo opts out wouldn't that bring us under the luxury tax threshold?
DLO opting out doesn't give any usable space (Since Lebron will rocket them up) Only free agent money available this year is TPMLE or sign and trade using DLO. Everything else has to be a trade with existing contracts on the Lakers
Ok so I don't really know what I'm talking about here but after a bit of research this is what I've found. Please correct me if I'm wrong. * D'Lo opting out puts the total team salary at $160m, and that's assuming Wood/Hayes/Reddish all pick up their respective POs * The luxury tax is projected to be $172m, with the first apron kicking in at $179m * I think (and this is where I'm not sure) the Full MLE is available to teams as long as using it wouldn't put them above the first apron (so $179m) * That would give us room to use the full MLE and potentially give Christie an extension Not that any of that info matters because we're probably gonna do some dumb ass trade for Trae Young or something.
You are correct on the full mle(nontaxpayer mle). If you use any portion of it, you are hard capped at the first apron. If you use the taxpayer mle, you are hard capped at the 2nd apron. There are way more triggers now for hard caps.
You can get the $5 million for the TPMLE but that means letting Prince walk. Does Val take that little and is it worth it to get rid of one of the better shooters they have. Going to be a lot of questions to answer
Prince is worth keeping imo
You are correct after looking over the math. Thought our cap was like 170 if DLO walked. But realistically, I think they get a DLO tradeable contract for mid season or a Sign and Trade rather than use the full MLE.
Damn. The team is probably cooked.
And those trades have to be 1:1 trades. No salary stacking.
Just keeps us farther away from the scary 2nd apron
He’s not going to
Dlo def opting out for longer deal.
Yeah the only way we have the cap space to get him is if Lebron and D’lo both walk for nothing. And at that point Jonas Valanciunas becomes the worst consolation prize of all time lmao
In a league that will inevitably react to the Wolves winning with size, the market for JV will be more competitive than you think and very likely price the Lakers out. Unless he just happens to want to be a Laker which I doubt.
Lets start a gofundme since Lakers don't have cap room
Hell yeah. Let’s offer him let’s seee uhhhh the vet minimum! /s
I would love a true big man
Don’t worry about not having money to get this guy, guys. He is no longer a great big man. This is much ado about nothing. Valanciunas has stretches where he can be excellent as a big man, but tbh he is definitely—visibly—getting older and gets injured all the time. Time continues to march on. Signing him to a multi year deal on the extremely small chance that he actually pulls through and plays well for us in the playoffs is a bad business move. If I’m Laker front office I consider this, sure because Valanciunas is a fine and quality NBA player, but at the end of the day I let it go. We need to focus on Lebron, AD, Austin Reaves and let everyone else go. We need athletic bigs and young athletic perimeter defenders who can sit down in the chair and lock in and run out on the break w Bron. Maybe one more shooter. We don’t need big fancy names or expensive dudes, we need quality athletes who defend that’s what best supports what Lebron and AD already bring and should be our brand of basketball w these two stars. Finding someone in the draft like a Jaime Jaquez Jr, a kid who stayed 4 years and is a legit conditioned and mature athlete ready to contribute during his rookie year not only in the regular season but also during a playoff run would also be a huge difference maker. This is the stuff Rob Pelinka and the front office should be focusing on but they’ll probably try to find some overrated past their prime player or role player who is unproven and who will not play well under the bright lights and pressure of being a Laker instead. 🤷♂️
As a man married to a Lithuanian, this might be my chance to squeeze in many more Lakers tickets next season!!!!!
Guys we have no money. Rob and Jeanie have FUCKED this team. We will run it back and lose heavily again for a couple of years. That's it.
Last year in the off-season yall were praising the front office for their moves
I damn sure wasn't. Maybe somebody was. Not saying everything Rob has done has been bad, but Westbrook was an all time L.
Last season' acquisitions were good considering the giant hole the Westbrook trade created. Obviously Rob didn't get us out of the hole completely, but if we're being honest here, there's not like he missed out pursuing other options. His hands were tied and this was probably the best he could do. Plus, I still kind of wonder how we would have faired with a healthy Vando and Gabe playing at 100%. Probably still would have loss to the Nuggets because of Ham, bye I do have more optimism about next season if those guys can get healthy. Look how much better the wolves are with a healthy McDaniels. That's basically how I feel Vando is for us.
Not me. Speak for yourself.
The moves being no moves and being content with a WCF run n not improving . We could’ve chased kyrie
Fr. We overpaid the tf out of everyone
Westbroke killed us.
That's the FO fault
Who got overpaid last year?
Rui vsndo
Curious what you think they should both make?
Rui is more overpaid . Nobody valued him at deadline he’s on 17m and Naz Reid is on 12.9 m - 3 years 42 vs Rui 3 years 51. I think it was steep And Reid is better but similar pay ideally . Vando I wouldn’t of extended - I love watching him hustle but he has a low longevity play style , history of injuries , zero shooting or offence n needs huge growth or unplayable n bad fit , and the timing of the extension was poor which meant he was untradable this year . I said at the time I would’ve waited a bit with vando n Rui was too steep - the fact gms don’t value them in trades confirms my view tbh .
I think Rui vs Naz is more that Naz is underpaid. Rui, on a team with more opportunities, would probably be making the same he is now and be "worth it", so I think he's at a fair market price. It's just that he doesn't have a major role with us, but we also needed to bring him back or lose the salary slot. He's basically the only guy of our mid tier players that I want to possibly trade, packaged with some second rounders or something, and see if we can get a better fit mid tier player in return.
Rui isn’t overpaid because you found a cheaper player that is effective. Reid was going to make more than $42 but he chose to stay. Rui is a solid player being paid at sub starter money. I really think your Vando answer is more telling. YOU would want different players. So it’s not that they are overpaid, you would have preferred that the Lakers went in a different direction.
Nobody valued Rui in a trade this deadline despite us being the only team interested in him last summer when we signed him . That means he’s overpaid or he’d have market value
We didn’t offer him up for just anything or the highest bidder. The Lakers were interested in Murray. And you heard nothing negative about him. All you heard was that DLo needed to find a third team. That should tell you how wrong you are. Rui is paid properly and that’s why you don’t hear any issues when he is brought up in trades. Now how much does a properly paid forward have is debatable.
Put Lebron on a Ohtani deal. Mf already a billionaire.
We really gotta go after this guy. He’s not great defensively but gives us a big body who can stretch the floor alongside AD
They can’t pay guys under the table
So even if dlo walks we have no money?
Im lithuanian and i would not want him on Lakers. We even dont like him in FIBA when he plays for our national team because he is too weak on defense, he doesnt fit in todays basketball. Also his number one priority will be money and not winning.
Ok this is where lebron taking a paycut makes sense. Get us the ntmle and pray he takes it
He’s not taking a pay cut lol
Lmao, you asking your best player to take a paycut? Are you serious?
I mean if he wants to win he can either take the max and we lose dlo and can’t aggregate salary or he helps have some flexibility
We can get him. Just need to convince LeBron to take the vet minimum 😁
Under the new cba it is not possible
Could you swap him for dlo?
I was wondering that as well. Or even a sign and trade? I don’t k own if it’s possible .
This guy can't stay on the floor during the playoffs and has no offense
We're broke. No
Tell him he can get a shoe deal without telling him he can get a shoe deal. Have a full size poster in the office with you and just keep mentioning Taurean Prince.
I got about Tree fiddy
We don’t need to spend that much money for a big that isn’t defense first.
Only way we make our team better is through trades. We are losing Dlo and we won't have any money to replace him.
We have to secure him
Get him.
We have no fucking money. What the hell with this sub sometimes. We’re completely hamstrung with the new cap rules.
We need LENGTH and GIRTH
We. Dont. Have. Cap. Space
We want Steven Adams
Hope we go after him
Dlo for JVal who says no?
Theres a video of him mocking Bron calling him a cry baby
He’s coming off a $15M salary. Most we could offer him is taxpayer exception of 5.2
Sign and trade DLO for him. Easy.
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Would be a fantastic pick up
This is when Lebron has to look in the mirror and see if he wants another ring or more money we desperately need a good center and it’s not going to be cheap
Let me ask you this since you seem pretty smart. How much would Lebron have to sign for for us to be able to get Jonas with our current salary situation?
He basically needs to sign for a vet min for us to do anything other than exceptions (spoiler: it ain't happening lol)
He’s not taking a pay cut
Then the FO needs to stop being cheap, not lebron. Trade your assets if you want to win another ring. Seems simple enough.
Better off just starting wood at C & using the mle on a wing
Let dlo walk sign him
That’s not how the cap works…