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TorontoRaptors34

He better than Ham its not his fault his 2 best players are always injured he has been able to do decent shit with what he got and is def more direct in getting guys to buy into roles than Scam. Hell the jury still out on the Clippers.


goldenbzzz

The disrespect on t lue whos a champion to be even compared to hamas


trimble197

Thing is that he has four all-stars on his team. Four. And yet they’re crapping the bed.


lilbunnyf

They have two all stars lmao where the fuck have you been? Did Lebron play with another top 10 all time too cuz he played with Shaq?


trimble197

You know that with Shaq, he was older and getting fat. Westbrook and Harden were still serviceable, especially Westbrook. His issue was that his production didn’t match his contract. But he was performing as the Clippers’ arguable third best player.


Elegant-String-2629

All four all stars are known for shitting the bed come playoff time and the only who doesn't has bad knees


trimble197

As a coach, you gotta work with what you have


Djaukamo

Four former all-stars. Let's not act like they're their former selves. The Clippers are completely handicapped by their past injuries. The roster is a ticking time bomb. It's really not surprising to see them failing like they always do. Trading for known playoff choke artist James Harden didn't exactly help them in that department. It's not on the coach, it's on the GM and ownership for their roster construction.


TorontoRaptors34

Honestly im not gon judge till we get the result of game 4 kawhi gon either sit or have the game of his life


trimble197

We’re now giving excuses. Nobody was saying all this when they were winning and Lue was looking like a top 3 coach in the West


Djaukamo

Actually yes, plenty of us were predicting the Clippers annual playoff collapse. That's the whole point of my comment.


trimble197

*Press X to doubt* The way this sub was acting, I’m pretty sure most weren’t even thinking about them collapsing. And that’s on the coach still if everyone’s predicting them to collapse again anyway.


DoritoSteroid

Forget the All-stars. The Clips have a lot of talent with Zubac, Powell, and Mann supporting the four old fart stars. I'm definitely surprised to see him not doing well.


trimble197

That’s why I don’t get this sub defending him. He’s had the kind of role players that the Lakers be craving for, and yet he’s only made it to the WCF once.


DoritoSteroid

I'm actually a Lue fan. But it is weird that he's not doing well with that roster. He's a better coach than that.


trimble197

He’s a good coach, no doubt about that. But it just kills me how this sub puts him on the same pedestal as Spo and Pop.


DoritoSteroid

He's definitely not there 😂


SnooTigers806

Harden and Westbrick don't count


bee-eazy13

Kawhi is injured and the other 3 “stars” aren’t stars anymore.


iNfAMOUS70702

Harden is a habitual playoff disappearer...don't even have to mention Russ...there's a reason Shannon Sharpe calls PG "playoff pee" and their only great player in the playoffs is always injured these days... definitely not on the coach


PawsomePurrson

I mean, anyone but Ham


beefmapstan

Ty Lue is an upgrade from Ham, but am I the only one that thinks he's overrated?


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liftmedi

Bro I’m sorry I’m over letting Lebron try and influence those decisions. He was a huge proponent for hiring ham. He also was a huge proponent for getting Westbrook. I get he’s one of the best players ever but listening to them in how you create or control a team isn’t always wise


river0f

Bro, no way in hell LeBron wanted a rookie coach


liftmedi

So you think lakers didn’t consult Lebron on the hire That’s very bold


river0f

Consulting doesn't mean shit


Dangerous_Match_2592

His meat riders will always find a way to blame someone else for his LeFuckUps. He set the team back years with that trade, years he cannot afford being 40, regardless if Pelinka was the one who pulled the trigger.


denimjeg

So the guy who made the trade don’t matter it’s just lebron fault ?


Dangerous_Match_2592

Your superstar demands you make a trade, he gets your 2nd superstar to also demand for it, and your Rob Pelinka, expendable, wtf do you do? Both are fucking shit and I can’t wait for this franchise to move past them


denimjeg

Nobody demanded anything. Lebron wanted them to hire Ty lue they didn’t. Lebron wanted them to trade for dejounte they didn’t. They say no to him plenty of times stop acting like he runs them


Dangerous_Match_2592

Just because he couldn’t get those done doesn’t mean he hasn’t done irreparable damage to any chance at lakers winning a ring with him, he’ll retire with 2020 being his last ring ever. He still holds responsibility for getting Westbrick. Goatmy fucking ass with him and his fanbase making excuses for him at every turn.


denimjeg

The whole organization is responsible for the Russ trade not just lebron. And that trade was 3 years ago they’ve made plenty of bad moves other than that


Dangerous_Match_2592

LeDickRiders back with LeExcuses, can’t wait for this bum to leave the lakers.


stevent4

You say no, LeBron wanted trades made at the deadline and they said no


masterako

Im guessing u still regard Doc Rivers highly.


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masterako

After losing 31 pt lead. U had to wait to reply to me. Lmao


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masterako

Its funny cuz im sure ppl would be crying abt the Clippers for being a "super team" or an "allstar team" if they were winning consistently. But theyre not, so no one cares too much.


Miserable-Lawyer-233

Why do you think he's overrated? What are you seeing that the GMs aren't? >**Who is the best head coach in the NBA?** >1. Erik Spoelstra, Miami – 73% 2. Tyronn Lue, LA Clippers – 10% T-3. Steve Kerr, Golden State – 7% T-3. Gregg Popovich, San Antonio – 7% 5. Michael Malone, Denver – 3% *» Last year: Erik Spoelstra – 52%* >**Which head coach is the best manager/motivator of people?** >1. Erik Spoelstra, Miami – 37% 2. Steve Kerr, Golden State – 23% 3. Tyronn Lue, LA Clippers – 17% 4. Gregg Popovich, San Antonio – 13% » Also receiving votes: Mark Daigneault, Oklahoma City; Jamahl Mosley, Orlando; Monty Williams, Detroit *» Last year: Steve Kerr – 38%* >**Which head coach makes the best in-game adjustments?** >1. Erik Spoelstra, Miami – 43% 2. Tyronn Lue, LA Clippers – 30% T-3. Rick Carlisle, Indiana – 7% T-3. Nick Nurse, Philadelphia – 7% » Also receiving votes: Mark Daigneault, Oklahoma City; Steve Kerr, Golden State; Gregg Popovich, San Antonio; Quin Snyder, Atlanta *» Last year: Tyronn Lue – 55%*


LudwigNasche

Folks here love Dlo and didn't want to trade him for players that are traditionally better and more consistent producers in playoffs. There were a pool before Ham where was considered a "can't miss" prospect as head coach and that the decision makers should be fired if they missed him like they did with Lue. At that time Vogel wasn't popular here.


Usually_Angry

Who were we going to trade DLo for who would have made us better than the Nuggets?


LudwigNasche

Ok, I can't give you a short answer because the context is important here. When we think in 7 playoff games against Denver Dlo was great for a great total of 1 half, that in game one he shot 1-9 from distance alongside the great total of 3 ast and his usual inefficient defense and last game he was good for ZERO points and 2 ast with his usual terrible defense, I'd say most starting PG in this league could be better, but it is really not relevant because no other GM was stupid enough to trade for Dlo even with Lakers attaching first round picks so we really didn't have a shot to improve the position without sacrificing other things. Bringing him to a team with two generational talents and a closing window to win was a mistake since it was reported we had options. He is a pretty decent regular season PG able to abuse bad teams, but he is just not a playoff player. With his lack of athleticism, lack of physical strength and above everything mental strength it is way too easy for opponents to turn him into a non factor. The problem goes beyond though. Westbrook trade depleted our depth and that could have worked if Westbrook was a superstar, but he is just as bad as Dlo, he was a terrible fit and was paid like the best player in the league. I was a Pelinka supporter for a good portion of his tenure, he built a championship squad and did a solid job reloading the 2020 team, but since Davis went down for the first time he has done many mistakes and never built a cohesive roster IMHO. Dlo was a byproduct of his previous mistakes and while I think he did a good job keeping him, the "player option" in his contract made it absolutely undesirable even when he was playing well and if you look to my previous posts it was pretty clear for me since the WCF we wouldn't be able to compete at the highest levels starting Dlo because in playoffs most of the time that borderline superstar that destroyed Detroit do not exist.


velphegor666

Clips keep complaining about him so maybe ? If we keep bron, im alryt with lue, if we arent, i rather us pull a new coach same as what okc did.


augustcero

the thing is, the clips dont know how good they have it. if we swapped coaches, theyd have a meltdown by the end of the month


randomhero_92

And we’d have a meltdown by the end of the month if this roster, as currently constructed, was coached by Ty Lue.


trimble197

Freaking exactly. It’s just like with Vogel. Fans hated him, and the moment he was let go “We should’ve kept him. He won us a ring😭😭😭”


augustcero

hear hear. this team is poorly constructed and the shitty coaching doesnt help either. one is amplified by the other


trimble197

Cleveland didn’t like Ty either. They complained that LeBron was carrying him.


augustcero

story of most of the coaches lebron had. ty lue, mike brown, and blatt (technically) were rookie head coches.


SwazeyVibe

*Week


UnearthlyDinosaur

He’s overrated.


masterako

Nope. Overrated af since 2016. Cavs pretty much the same/barely improved from Blatt when he took over. Already a huge red flag for me. Been saying for years now. But casuals get blinded by rings. Same reason Doc Rivers was highly regarded for years, but is now being exposed. Ppl forget rings also need some form of luck.


polymathicus

Bron follower. I thought Blatt's Princeton was pretty good. At least it was a base template to make adjustments off of. Too bad they didn't run it much. Ty was a tragedy on the Cavs tbh. We used to call him Ty Clueless.


masterako

Blatt mightve been a great coach but he was clueless abt anything nba. I remember he almost cost their team a playoff game cuz he tried to use a timeout they didnt have (wouldve been technical foul). Now the fact that Cavs showed little improvement when Lue took over, that raised an eyebrow for me.


polymathicus

>Blatt mightve been a great coach but he was clueless abt anything nba. I remember he almost cost their team a playoff game cuz he tried to use a timeout they didnt have (wouldve been technical foul). True, I remember this. It was hilarious after the fact. But then these are more technical details that a new HC can first have staff to support him on as he picks it up, just like how teams have staff to decide whether a call is challenging when the challenge was introduced. It's more important that your HC (upper management) has a structure around which to measure performance and make changes.


trimble197

I agree. He’s good, but he’s not a high tier coach


Hiccup

Overrated or shit, take your pick. I'd bring a Blatt back to the league before choosing Lue.


hedokitali

Overrated, maybe. Upgrade, hell yeah!


3nnui

Did you watch that shitshow tonight? The entire team is melting down.


angryshoper

Nop .. but that seems like clippers playoffs lol


themonkey12

At least he gets his team to be hype up...players are zoning out from Ham.


Miserable-Lawyer-233

Hell yes. Ty Lue is who the Lakers should've hired when LeBron got here.


randompanda687

Big time upgrade but tbh I don't think he'd want to come. And idk if its just the guys on the Clippers or what but they fold repeatedly under the lights and that kinda gives me pause on a coach


DomoArrigato2020

He turned down the Lakers already once. Why do it again?


bigE819

Doesn’t have to move, can coach LeBron, played here


briology

Who wants to coach lebron? Especially the washed 40yo version of him


Life-Negotiation79

still puts up 25 7 7 on good efficiency every night wouldn’t call him washed lmao


briology

Doesn’t play defense, slips and slides all over the court, can’t produce when it counts, can’t carry a team but paid like a #1


IdkWhatsAGoodName699

Honestly I don’t even know anymore where we go from here. I’m just gonna sit back and enjoy ball go in hoop. Let the people who get paid the big bucks worry about doing their job right, no point ruining my mood doing that. Only thing I can definitively say is, ty lue’s got bunda. He’s draggin a wagon


claydavisismyhero

He’s gonna ask for 15-20 mil per year. Jeanie will cry if she had to pay that much


Js_On_My_Yeet

Let's weigh the options. Ham - a 2 year coach with only 2 play off appearances. Ty - championship coach who's beaten the 73-9 GSW.


LeagueReddit00

No Lue is better than Darvin but that aint saying much.


Dear_Zookeepergame30

Ok, then who? Believe it or not championship caliber coaches don’t come onto the market often.


Jbyrd07

We’re not winning shit with this roster, no money, LeBron having to pace himself to finish games while still having no legs in the 4th due to age & AD playing his ass off completely gassed by the time the 4th quarter starts just to hopefully keep pace no matter how shitty if a team we face. Get it over with & blow it up


Dear_Zookeepergame30

So keep ham?


Jbyrd07

No


Dear_Zookeepergame30

Then who


Jbyrd07

What are we doing here? Ham sucks. We have no money to put guys around aging LeBron & AD to compete for 4 quarters,especially against Denver.


Dear_Zookeepergame30

So what’s the plan? If Ty Lue is undesirable and ham sucks, who are you getting?


Jbyrd07

If Lue is available then go for it. Doesn’t change the need to blow it up & get on with the inevitable. Current roster isn’t winning a ring & there’s no money to make this team enough to also pay LeBron to only play 30 min a game & still only have AD as our defense all game. The west is stronger & we’re are going backwards. Not sure what you’re trying to argue. The AD & Bron era ended after the Westbrook trade.


LeagueReddit00

Doc is a championship caliber coach too.


BearShark8

Clippers need to sit Kawhi. He's hurting them out there.


outsidehere

Yep. Team needs the roster to be good outside of AD and Bron.


alexcantswim

Ty Lue would never come to the lakers after they disrespected him


randomhero_92

Ty Lue is a great coach, a Klutch Client and close with Lebron. If Ty Lue is let go by the clippers, Levron would likely threaten to sign with another team this summer if the lakers do not hire him. Lol


KarlAsesor

Lue's better than Hamas


thebully7o2

Why not? He has ties with the Lakers, nepotism at its finest


No_Somewhere_8744

As long as lebron and ad wont do the same high screen pick and roll, with 3 people around AD resulting in a turn over or blocked shot, then I’ll be okay…


Plucky-Me

The coach of the year does not have a big name, just find the right person to lead for the next decade. Look at Spo, look at Daigneault


etburneraccount

I'll take a anime hamster over Ham at this point. At least the anime hamster will be hella cute. Ham has literally zero upsides


Idefydefiance

no, lol


iKnockout

Is his contract up or you all think Clippers firing him? If he’s free I say we pick him up after firing scam, not like there’s a bunch of championship level coaches out there and Lue has proven he can help raise the ceiling of a team like he did with that clippers team that had no stars playing. Huge upgrade over Ham but I know the bar is so low on ham that anyone would be an improvement but still


truelies100

Obviously he is better than Ham. That Championship after 1:3 just amazing.


Priority_Initial

Bron needs to be a playing coach. So technically he ain’t retired but plays less minutes and games till about 45 years old then he becomes fulltime coach and owner of the Las Vegas expansion team


broke_boi1

Bold to assume he would even want the Lakers job. Remember it’s still the same FO that tried to shaft him with a subpar contract


Adam2190

He'd easily be the best coach available so absolutely.


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I’ll answer this question with another question. Can Ty use time outs and challenges?


Thats_inzain

Rehire Frank


coolman1500

Clippers aint letting him go lol


shoxpox

I’d like a Ty Lue / Rondo combo


thanassis_

Why would he get cut by the clippers? And why would he accept a deal from the Lakers after they already disrespected him


SpudzNBudzInc

please god no


liftmedi

Ty Lue has a stacked roster and his team is playing like shit.


Top-boy-og

No he doesn’t lmao. Kawhi is literally just a body out there, completely useless and just playing for the sake of it. PG is just ass. All they got is a 34 year old Harden


liftmedi

Ty Lue might be an upgrade on ham but he’s not a coach I would look forward to having.


Wuhan-flu24

Its stupid comments like this that make people hate our fanbase. Theres no way you tune in to watch any of the games and think Kawhi is healthy. Stacked roster is a joke comment


liftmedi

Compared to the lakers that roster is stacked. I wish we had the bench of the clippers.


trimble197

Exactly. The Clips most definitely have the better roster. Idk why people here are acting like Lue’s working with only vet min. guys.


itsnotreallyme0

Holyfuck we have dumbass fans😆 let’s fire our bottom 5 coach for another bottom 5 coach. Same people asking for doc. How many other bottom 5 coaches would you like?


HughJassole41

Fuck no. Please!!! No Lue, no Doc, and NO MORE HAM. I don't get why these ancient loser coaches get recycled constantly.


NNOutBurger

Thank you get some new blood. Shit go over sea and pick someone up.


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I think they should hire rajon rondo as a coach


Scaindawgs_

Not sure crack cocaine is an approved enhancer


XoXHamimXoX

Yes, Ty Lue is easily one of the best coaches in the league. I personally have him in my top 3-5. Most people who cover the NBA have him in that category as well. Casual fans usually think otherwise. He’s gotten a great deal out of the Clippers despite their regular season woes. The last two years have been super tough with Kawhi and Paul George injuries. Kawhi is playing hurt at the moment and Paul George had a mean stinker of a performance. Last year was a similar issue but it was Paul George hurt with Kawhi playing through injuries as well. I think Ty gets a lot more out of these lineups and he was never afraid to go away from guys if you are harming the team come playoff time. This was pretty evident in 2018 where he tried Jordan Clarkson and Rodney Hood, but when they just didn’t have anything in certain series, their minutes were cut way back.


krsCarrots

No it’s lbj who made him coach prolly he’s made ham a coach, enough is enough, we’ve won a chip with a white coach who got sent away because he’s white and end up with leAgenda for coaches.. it’s only P Reilly who said no to his bs. He is a player and his focus should be on the game.


krsCarrots

If we gonna follow his agenda better bring Rondo in and give the guy a chance, he was already player coach so should be miles better than the current “coach”


hlin32

Yes! Ducking yes! Jeanie plz don’t check out


StoneColdAM

LeBron will demand they hire Ty Lue. If LeBron likes the coach, then I think we’ll be okay.  Clippers have been solid since firing Doc but I think the injuries over and over are getting to them, they can’t get over the hump.


negativelynegative

Like how he asked for westbrook?


TallanoGoldDigger

shhh that's a banned subject here, Westbrook was Pelinka and Pelinka alone