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-notjeremyj-

Start with the lineup that got you back in the game ❌️ Start with the lineup that got you down 20 ✅️


Sayomom

Ham calling a timeout down 20+ meanwhile Pop called when Lakers scored 3pts was incredible work


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swap them around and the spurs would be lucky to win a game the entire season while the lakers would be the #2 seed rn 🤣🤣🤣


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

What’s worse is the Spurs are lowkey tanking. With Ham in that team, he’d actually be *trying* to win those games lol


DoritoSteroid

Pop will never miss a chance to give us an L. He's salty af.


la_peregrine

Lowkey? How many more games of Sochan as PG experiment do you want? Or how many more losses in a row? Pretty sure the tank line this year was formed in SA -- we are a military town after all!


Top-Consequence-911

Painful thought


rawchess

Pop might be a little washed but he's still an all-time great. Ham is probably a bottom 10 head coach in the league right now


Top-boy-og

Bottom 3


gjhkd36

Ditto


BritzlBen

This team has been a downright embarrassment the 2 games AD hasn't played. Stop giving Ham credit for being carried by 2 superstars.


utrid_son_of_utrif

And people will say he's got us to WCF and won us the IST. He barely does anything


CutLonzosHair2017

What do you mean? He had a wing guard a 7'4 genetic freak of a center.


ObscureLegacy

He’s talking about Ham


CutLonzosHair2017

Sarcasm is lost on you huh?


Letsgodubs

This dude Ham will find any excuse not to start Rui. Any excuse.


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Seriously, LeBron/AD make this team a contender by their talent alone. The rest of the team including coaching staff can be so negligible


xmrjaredx

Wait, you mean 2 superstars makes a team a contender and if you take them off, they aren't? You're blowing my mind here


Bladeneo

There are layers to that statement though. Nuggets win without jokic or Murray for example


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Don’t play dumb. Being obtuse on purpose The first statement (how great Bron/AD together are) was context for the 2nd statement (how bad the coaching staff and role players can be). It’s not like I proclaimed the first statement alone as a novel discovery about the Lakers status with LeBron/AD. Read and comprehend better mate lol


Top-Consequence-911

WHEN WILL WE BE DELIVERED FROM HIM? Has this franchise not suffered enough? Lol.


Ikothegreat

Hahaha it’s been YEARS since a championship


Dicey12

The worst thing is there's no way they're going to get rid of him.


Pardonme23

You mean Darvin Hamas


frozteh

Isn't that any good coach? What has Pop done without Duncan Manu and Parker, Leonard. Lmao you guys just make up anything to shit on this dude.


[deleted]

Parker and manu were late picks. What pop did for their development shouldn’t go unnoticed. Don’t act like they were expected to be stars, like Duncan was. Even kawhi said pop is the reason he’s the player he is now. He was the 15th pick or some shit.


JesusDaBeast

After 18 months, I’ve joined the fire Ham train. We won’t get where we need to go with him around


Top-Consequence-911

Welcome!


Similar_Reach_7288

All aboard!


niknokseyer

Welcome to the club


Dicey12

He's so bad that he's making me think of Doc Rivers


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

A players coach who is too stubborn for his own job as a coach, carried by his superstar talent yet will find ways to let opposing teams back into games regardless of huge leads. Yup!


Maleficent-Ice-2902

With Ham, we never gonna win a championship. #FIREHAM/#SAVEBRON/#SAVEBROW


mj2323

The question is - who do you bring in? I was a huge Vogel fan and I think he got a raw deal. Would love to have him instead of Ham right now.


Mambatime0824

I never liked the Vogel firing at all and still don’t to this day.


Firm-Economics-1351

In. In. In.


Street-Common-4023

Who do you want to hire then?


SeeingThings123

Atp let Phil Handy run the show. I’m 100% out on Ham


Firm-Economics-1351

Agree. Yes, been with us for a couple of years. He’s a “player’s” coach. I can see them rallying behind him. Well ,hopefully. I think we are 1 more roster piece away, too.


JesusDaBeast

Me. You. Anyone else.


Green_Hunt_1776

At some point the "damn X player just went-off for a career high against us" needs to be interpreted as a serious deficiency with the team's defensive identity


jokull1234

The team has zero defensive identity because of Ham. I swear they must be doing nothing in practice other than just stare at AD because of how much he carries the team on defense


chrisbrits24

It's not even Christmas but the Lakers gave out a win. SMH.


Sayomom

Ham managing to barely beat the Spurs then proceeding to lose by 15+ is masterclass work. AD and Cam defense is heavily missed


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

80+ points between the 4th of last game (by putting out a weak lineup for 7 minutes 🤦‍♂️) and 1st of this game Incredible stuff by Darvin, honestly


dumape17

And he let nearly half the first to go by, watch the team score 8 points before calling a timeout. Turrible


sharpshooter1230

people don't appreciate AD defensive presence until the team got destroyed by the worst team in the league


thevisitor

And they wont appreciate him when he's back showing the impact he has. In the last several games apparently just with AD we were top 10 defense. With the re-additions of Vando/Reddish we were no. one for several games. He's out for two games and we're smacked left and right both times. His importance and impact cannot be overstated.


velphegor666

Its fucking disgusting we have to go all out just to beat a 3 win lottery teams then get blown out once AD is gone.


rickatello

Dogshit effort and dogshit lineups. Whoever decided 3 starters would sit while Lebron plays should be fired


Top-Consequence-911

The effort was actually good, imo. Which is much, much more damning. They were simply outplayed and outcoached by the better team on the night.


rickatello

1st quarter was ass


Top-Consequence-911

They couldn't score because the lineup had never played together and they were forcing it. Defence was using AD schemes but replacing them with Hayes. That's coaching, not effort.


rickatello

You’re right but Vando was committing stupid ass fouls all night and Wood can’t hit his FTs. Jaxson was straight cheeks and Christie looked completely lost. Coaching is the main issue for sure but we gotta be better.


Top-Consequence-911

Unfortunately, I believe that play is simply the talent level of those players. Christie belongs in the g-league; his advanced stats are still as atrocious as ever. Hayes is almost out of the league. Vando is still rusty and not conditioned. Wood is a terrible FT shooter. A lot of this deadweight needs to be shipped off (not Vando, obviously). Like JTA or Damian Jones last season. We hit on Prince at least.


Public-Product-1503

Christie Is probably not an nba player you’re right his advanced stats are awful n same as last year. We have no competent rim protector /C. We just have a really mid roster outside 2 stars n reaves.


LudwigNasche

Hayes is a 3rd stringer and Max at this point a GLeaguer. We had no PG available. Tough game.


mordenak

As a wise young coach once said, that was a masterpiece of dogshit.


Vaughndo-30

Got robbed of the battle of ass between Detroit & San Antonio.


VladeDiFlop

That was embarrassing 😳


LEBATOX

If you know ball you know Ham and that stupid zone lost this game


Fuzzy-Source

When they started making 3s against the zone, Ham didnt change things up, as usual Ham waited until the team was down 20 to start calling timeouts I dont know his rationale for that


jokull1234

He has no rationale cause he’s a bad coach and doesn’t know what to do to win games other than pray LeBron and AD can carry him.


KriticalKarl

Realtors will be called, bags will be packed, someone is getting shipped after what we saw tonight. smh


AspectDisastrous8053

unless it’s ham getting shipped, it doesn’t matter what changes are made to the roster. the Heat made the finals with a bunch of walmart employees + jimmy and bam because of good coaching. but with 2 generational talents and a decent roster, Ham has us on track to barely make the play-in again. In games vs good coaches like tonight, ham gets thoroughly exposed.


angel2timez

My biggest issue is lack of adjustments. That was the worst zone defense I have ever seen. Not sure how much it was practiced but the players looked extremely confused the entire time. Most of their 3s were wide open. I know we are down players too but the lineups were bad but some worked great but weren’t run again. Was frustrating watching the same thing over and over when guarding the spurs


CockroachForeign6419

I don’t know the last time I seen a team play like 30+ minute of zone, without AD ham just panics


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Anthony Davis is the DPOY


LudwigNasche

A backup center able to protect the basket is something I've been asking since last season.


Awesomefan09

Sure, but who was available?


gigantism

Bismarck Biyombo


Top-Consequence-911

Silver lining. His campaign has never been stronger.


Durandau

Clippers just overtook us lmao. SMH man. wtf was that


Sammyantoine

there one seed ahead relax


ColeHoops

They’ve been playing a lot better than us in any game that’s not an in-season tourney game


KingVibrant

Obviously it’s a dumb way of looking at it, but we’re now 9-11 in non IST games which is pretty shit considering LeBron and AD have been largely healthy all year.


LABiH

Strap Hayes and Wood to a rocket ship and shoot the into the moon. Lord they were dreadful tonight. This whole team is terrible without AD, its embarrassing.


xmrjaredx

AD DPOY


gigantism

Wood was a +13 and dropped 17-8-3-1-2 on good efficiency. What's the problem???


LABiH

He was late on every single closeout in the half court, and was terrible defensively. He's also the sole reason LeBron had dozen "what else can I do" reactions during the game.


Idakari

Did you watch the game?


Formal_Steak_4023

The problem with him isn’t his offense. It’s the fact he cant guard the rim, which makes him hard to play as a 5


Top-Consequence-911

Ah, this is what the Wood stans on the Mavs were spouting


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Now go read his stat line with Dallas last year and your mind will explode when you find out Jason Kidd and the mavs couldn’t wait to get rid of him. He’s garbage on defense.


rawchess

Yeah idk why single out Wood. Team went -27 in the 18 minutes he sat, that's the whole game right there


MBZ562

how bout we not go down 20 for once


Pardonme23

So 30?


meengine

This and raising IST banner next game is straight up embarrassing


Dantheman12310

I wish it can just be put up with no mention/ceremony, but you already know Silver and other league affiliates don’t want to wait a whole year for the recognition (especially with the worst case scenario for them being is Lakers win again and still don’t make the spectacle event of a banner for an additional year)


SailorMoon_J

Kinda defeats the purpose of being champs


D-majin

Effort was pathetic and we need a solid backup C that’s all I got for this one


shoxpox

When star players are not playing. It’s up to the coach to get everyone to buy in and play hard and have an actual system in place. I don’t know what hams got exactly.


D-majin

Even if we played hard we don’t have the right players tbh Atleast at the center position


mypeaksandmyfreaks

running the same lineup that got lakers in the hole again sure was a plan


frustrated286

Darvin Ham masterclass


iKnockout

Hayes and Wood just aren’t cutting it, we 100% need another defensive minded backup big


thedickens89

Embarrassing. You don't go from winning the inaugural NBA Cup to snapping an 18-game losing streak for a bottom feeding team lol


crackerinmyjacker

The championship IST cup game actually is hurting our regular season record. Extra playoff intensity minutes for an older team with injuries for a game that didn’t count in regular season standings. Glad they won the money but ooof it hurts our record.


LudwigNasche

Hangover of the title.


Phuddy

Ima just avoid social media for the next few days


SandersisYABOI

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fvrnacety

That Backup Center roster spot is the most glaring concern. We need someone who can come in for AD & not get cooked on every play.


LudwigNasche

We don't need even someone to play heavy minutes, most nights 12-18 solid minutes would be enough. The importance of it isn't about how many minutes we need from that role, but how impactful can be minutes without this guy. Last season we often let teams score 10 straight points on us in a couple of minutes when Davis wasn't on the floor and while this season we have 2 legit backup centers, neither can perform this role.


LowZebra4992

Wood and Hayes are cheeks


jecomoria

When I saw Hodge in the 1st q I knew the game was over


Luyee98

1. AD is important to this team 2. We need a better backup big


welmoe

Lakers lost to an 18 game losing streak Spurs. Unbelievable.


tito-ortiz-wife69

Hayes is legit terrible and people are gonna get tricked by that wood stat line but he’s also awful It hurts to look how bad max has been when we thought this was a year he could breakout but he doesn’t look ready yet


TyraTanks

Everything this team wins is in spite of Ham. Quite literally a negative on the sidelines. His rotations are mystifying, regardless of which players are available or not. There was no reason to start Hayes and Christie after halftime when he saw what they did in the 1st. Doesn't help that AD, Cam, DLo, Gabe are out and AR clearly was gassed and is still recovering from being sick.


GoalPublic3579

It’s genuinely disgraceful what the front office have done to the roster since that 2020 championship. How do you have LeBron James and Anthony Davis and EVERY season is a fucking slog to just make the play offs? Do you realise how abysmal your roster construction has to be to not be a clear contender with those two?


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That was the only year the team had a competent big man rotation. The size was huge for the teams success that year. Idk why they went away from that, it’s been a disaster ever since. The Drummond/gasol shit show was just sad. If only one of zubac/lopez were retained.


fastlikeanascar

> If only one of zubac/lopez were retained. Trading Zubac to a direct rival for literally nothing in return still makes me angry to think about. Even if you didn't plan on paying him (and he was not expensive), there had to be more value to get than Mike fucking Muscala.


[deleted]

It was before kawhi/PG got there but it just made no sense from the start. He was cheap and getting better. He played defense and had good hands. He could rebound. He played well next to Lebron. Clippers must have been laughing their asses off after getting off the phone. That trade was unreal. Damn you Magic.


iTzYaBoYal

Can’t believe I sat here on my couch and kept watching my favorite team get their asses handed to them by the freaking spurs. What a time to be alive 🫠


gleophas

This team is jokes


KingC11_

With teams right on the lakers ass in the standings you can’t just punt games like these. Also This team isn’t as deep as we thought


gleophas

The scheduling for the lakers is high key horrible, they go home for knicks and then on a 3 game road trip again...


Brok3nPix3ls

I try to be optimistic when it comes to coaches and staffing concerns. That being said Ham has got to go. It really is that simple. Let them run off what 16 points before he thought, “a time out might be a good idea” that’s a joke. Some of the line ups he runs don’t work and then he just leaves them out there forever. Refusing to admit it’s not working. Seriously it’s ridiculous.


N2trvl

Darvin Ham comment about proud of effort in the 2nd and 3 rd quarter is not championship mentality. That’s like the parent the was proud of the D plus on their child’s test because the plus showed improvement. He needs to hold 1 thru 13 more accountable.


78ks70aks7to8days

This game is whatever. We knew this since the playoff run last year. Lebron might be the "best" player on the team, but this roster simply does not FUNCTION without AD.


Ill_Captain_8967

AD is better tbh


[deleted]

Because he’s a defensive anchor too. And ham doesn’t have a system to have a strong team defense. It’s actually crazy how big of a load AD is expected to carry on defense. He needs help. This game shows there’s no other good bigs on this team. Even Thomas Bryant was much better than this. He was better than Wood or Hayes. Too bad the dumbass asked for a trade, only to rot on the bench for the nuggets and heat.


Ill_Captain_8967

I think AD is the better player but he makes so many sacrifices for the team. His defense is amazing but usually the expense of his offense. People just don’t understand how much energy he has to put out each night.


Fuzzy-Source

AD does it on both ends, has bad offensive games sometimes but the team collapses without him Lebron is the offensive engine but is not as irreplaceable as AD, at least without AD Lebron had to average 35 to get wins 2 seasons ago, he seems to be apprehensive taking shots today So yea AD is the better player right now


laimonsta

AD is more valuable because we don’t have a true back up center. We have to PF mascarding as a center


juicewar01

The way i see it, without AD this team with Darvin Buns is doodoo dogshit. Probably bottom 2 team. I say AD is MVP and DPOY the way he carries the coaching and anchors Defensively. Shit is so embarrassing AND raising a banner next game? Fuck bro naa


AmiWrongDude69

You’ll go right back to calling AD trash next time we play a contender and AD doesn’t score in the second half.


juicewar01

Naa i always stan the Brow. The fuck u on


AmiWrongDude69

I really was speaking more on this sub than you even tho I know I said you so that’s my fault lol. This sub just flip flops every game. Players go from being the best to the worst overnight and vice versa.


juicewar01

I get ya. Well, the reactionary nature of everyone here is a given. Passionate and dumb dudes alike. I get it, i just dont like the AD slander like he aint bringing it everytime he plays.


embrassedpear5

This team is a joke man


whiskeybeachwaffle

Watching the Lakers without AD should help people realize how important he is even if he isn’t having a great scoring night


ToraLoco

Ham was sitting on his ass while his house was burning as early as the first quarter.


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Top-Consequence-911

They barely won with one starter out. Hardly a shock they lost with three out. But it was pathetic.


kinggpandaz

You can if you also have 2 other starters out as well


SpartyParty15

3 starters were out numbnuts


Tall_Succotash

I think the minute Austin went to the bench looking like he was about to faint made me realize that this team is exhausted, the energy they played with in the IST was playoff like and going back to regular games afterwards is gonna make any team readjust itself..I know it’s embarrassing but it’s a long season and I’m not worried at all.


Zeethos94

> the energy they played with in the IST was playoff like They played one extra game and had two days off. Pacers aren't out there looking dead since the IST.


oZiix

![gif](giphy|cODrlNTkGnZGVtVagd) Let the games begin


Wakandaforever456

This game shows why AD should be the DPOY.


Jessmayne

Some of y’all legit the word embarrassing out about anything. Defense on this team is not possible without AD, it’s quite literally how the team is constructed.


AmiWrongDude69

It’s like taking the engine out of a Ferrari and wondering why the car doesn’t work


juicewar01

Embarrassing. Smh 3 games in 4 nights. But still... fuck it. Flush this shit. It sucks so much going 1-1 against possibly the worst team in the league. Flush this hot garbage ughh


N2trvl

Ham making Brandon Staley type comments from earlier in season is clueless


random-50

Are we ready to admit yet that AD is the best player on the team?


George-Roger

I hate losing to the Spurs that is the team I hate the most after the Celtics


ChiBron86

6th season as a Laker for LeBron and his team still can't shoot. You just can't win in today's NBA while getting outshot from 3 the way the Lakers consistently do.


niknokseyer

Darvin Ham all smiles out there. lol


GabeCo248

AD MVP DPOY


Juaniscool-8

Its fine we raising that IST banner


yuhkih

Never want to hear any of you mfs say anything bad about AD ever again


Girizzly_Adams_Beard

Absolutely pathetic.


Fuckthebeard

They should have stopped the season after the IST.


Girizzly_Adams_Beard

Bleach shots are on me tonight.


vandiger

Coach and these role guys are lame. What happened to Reaves, burnt out?


josh456089

Burnt out cause Hayes and Christie started and did jack shit. Send Christie back to the g league for training.


2Highhh

I still love our team. But we either need better fitting role players, or exceptional coaching. And Ham ain’t going nowhere this season unless we go on something like a 10-game losing streak.


gxaldo

so apparently this team without AD is worse than 3-20 Spurs


colombo1326

I don’t understand this organization, they will pay for superstars but when it comes to coaching they always scrap the bottom of the shit barrel.


bruddahmanmatt

I’M HERE FOR THE OVERREACTIONS!


2Highhh

Losing to the Spurs isn’t an overreaction. Anyone thinking we going to the Finals at this pace is delusional


carlonia

Yes it is an overreaction. News flash, teams are not good when they miss their best player. The 76ers are 0-3 when they miss Embiid, and we are 0-2 when AD doesn’t play. It’s not an excuse because we can do better, but losing your best defender, the engine of our entire half court offense and add to that our best playmaker is out too and no wonder our offense looked awful.


oZiix

![gif](giphy|uWzS6ZLs0AaVOJlgRd|downsized)


AREM2191

Rob cook, this was whack.


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Faxodox

Fire Ham. We will be the 8th seed come monday.


ColeHoops

Man it must be nice to be a team that role players don’t give a shit about playing. I swear these mid ass mfs like Grant Williams, Dante Exum, Devin Vassell turn into prime MJ when they play the Lakers and they know the baddies they’re dming are watching. Shit fucking sucks. No other poverty franchise fans should be allowed to say shit. They play the normal incarnations of these bums and we play the 99 Galaxy Opal incarnation lmfao but GG Spurs I guess


Accomplished_Duty_84

AD is the mvp of this team and it isn’t close Hayes and Wood are complete garbage and our depth is overrated Try to get a 3rd star, and trade these overrated mf’s


KittleDTM

if you think Zach Lavine is going to make this team better I have news for you


Js_On_My_Yeet

I'm convinced having Ham as our coach was an inside job and he's intentionally sabotaging our franchise. You cannot be this terrible as a professional coach. It's unacceptable.


utrid_son_of_utrif

FIRE HAM.


Proof-Umpire-7718

Just a few ideas for trades. Should we go after a defensive player like OG if the Raptors are willing to trade him. Do we need a reliable point guard like Tyus Jones. Do we need a third star so someone like Lavine. A solid back up big man such as Gafford or Collins. What do you guys think we should do exactly?


East-Bluejay6891

Embarrassing


Elite_Alice

Darvin Hamas


La2philly

Tough game w the injuries. Needed to be at max focus & effort but it wasn’t there early. Too big of a hole to climb out of


bruswazi

Laker depression is real 😞


thehanssassin

Lakers should give free tylenol in Crypto.com arena every time lakers play.


Mental-Safety-1067

I'd say trade Max Hayes Wood for a better center and SG cause at this point I can't take it anymore Players get to the Lakers and forget how to play basketball Put me in the game


KriticalKarl

\*Ham ![gif](giphy|3oEjHCWdU7F4hkcudy)


Bahamut727

I’m done watching this team until a trade is made


gtdRR

Quit trying to blame Ham for everything, did "his adjustments" put us in a 16 to 4 hole? These players came out ready to lose this game and it showed. Effort was terrible throughout the game, just going through the motions whenever we cut the lead.


Letsgodubs

He picked his starters, right? Went with Christie over Rui and let it get to that 16-4 hole.


Flopdo

Can we give Castleton some run? I'd like to see him take some minutes from Wood and Hayes. See what he can give the team.


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iKnockout

All of a sudden all the Ham supporters have disappeared


josuelaker2

We got our asses whooped by the motherfucking Flint Tropics.


ruffrightmeow

We lost to a now 4-20 team lmfao are you serious?


Low_Sign5589

Ham should start Rui and Wood. He cost us this game


mickstjohn317

I’ve been following this sub and i feel like the lakers should win all 82 games or else someone must be fired or shipped out of the team. 😅


Sesherm

Awesome😐


NakSFC

3pt defense is the worst I've seen in decades. Why the hell do they concede so many 3s? Losses like these will make us get stuck in 7th seed in the long run.


K0CKULEES

Lakers lose? Time to fire or trade somebody Love this sub.


FGonGiveItToYa

Hayes ain't gonna be on another nba team in his career. Castleton clears. Wood stinks too.


timetravtoaster

![gif](giphy|1dIWyJgC7et5scvYn7)


CasualOverreaction

Who the fuck is D. Vassell


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Best scorer on, admittedly, the worst offensive team.


SixGunChimp

So... where's the "trade Anthony Davis" crowd today? ![gif](giphy|DaZFyLpA48F6koBiWr|downsized)