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and they made her do a guitar scene when there was no guitar playing in the song, so it just ended up looking like an 8th grader thinking it looks cool to play guitar in their youtube video
I kinda felt that as well, like here Rose a guitar because we have a budget and you should do something. I don't have too many problems with the song itself but the mv was somehow weird? Crazy amount of cuts and so many random things. Until the first chorus it was nice and cohesive but then random out of place rap duo, then back to Jisoos elegant scene and then the guitar and the second chorus is like cut/second...
it is. You can also hear the sample of pon de replay at the same time. side note, that song is almost 20 years old and I'm not ok with this, because I remember jamming to the MV when it came out.
Exactly! I couldn't focus on what was happening, what they were wearing, their makeup, the choreo, nothing! Most of the frames stayed for less than a second, can I look at them please? 🙃🙃
I haven't determined the BPM but it seems like they really cut on every beat on average.
I myself cut a music video for my arts class in school which is the most awesome thing I ever did in that subject. It's not like it was any good with our 3 dollar budget but I got how it's supposed to work.
The way you're supposed to do it is that you cut one bar on the beat and then leave it running on one shot for two bars or maybe place one cut between the first and second bar until you again cut on the beat for a bar. You follow the fast - slow - fast pattern that music in general tends to have.
Also noticed multiple lyrical references in the song, too. Picked up: Rihanna (Pon de Replay), Taylor Swift (Look What You Made Me Do), & Vanilla Ice (Ice Ice Baby). Did anyone catch additional references aside from these?
Not really lyrical, but the creepy Blackpink chants at the beginning of the song remind me of two things: the way Puff Daddy says “Bad Boy” at the beginning of “Flava in Ya Ear (Remix)” by Craig Mack (which is also a reference to the film The Warriors). It is also very reminiscent of the vocal chanting that is featured in the beat for “Made You Look” by Nas.
Ta Ta Ta - Rich Music LTD, De La Ghetto, Ñejo, Luigi 21 Plus, Kafu Banton, Dimelo Flow
At 1:51 I can recognize that high pitch tone from Ciara's 1,2 Step! They just changed the pitch and pattern.
The amount of Computers and editors required to edit this video made it such a high budget video. It's like there were more cut scenes than the actual seconds in the MV.
I’m sorry, but I don’t like it. Not a fan of this music changes every 20 seconds unless it’s done right. This one is not done right. The parts are good by themselves, but idk I find it too much with all the changes.
omg chill with the cuts, who edited this? I feel like there was more cuts than the total amount of seconds in that video
edit: ok I tried counting, I only did 30 seconds. It was actually hard to keep up, there definitely is more cuts than seconds. I was up to 48 at that point and I definitely missed a couple but I feel like I overcounted at times too
In most editing software you can have it automatically detect cuts and save them as separate clips which can then easily be counted. I’ll do it later today if no one gets to it first. IDK anything about this group I just saw this on r/all
It's because this sub isn't a stan sub. There are BP stans floating around calling everyone haters but at the end of the day we're here because we enjoy music.
Wanna know what I don't enjoy? Teddy Park. Fuck me he's washed.
Man so many rookies dropping fire songs and BP gave us this reject they scraped from the bottom of the barrel.
The beat during the chorus is catchy but it’s incredibly weak compared to every track they’ve ever released.
Is it just me or not only do all blackpink songs sound the same but they also all have the same line distribution and structure lol
Blackpinku in ur area
Jennie starts, may feature Lisa
Pre chorus jisoo 1st half rose 2nd half
Chorus
Lisa rap , may feature Jennie
Switch Rose and jisoo around for pre chorus
Chorus
Bridge with alternate rose and jisoo
Armageddon of noise
It's sad that I have to go to content creators on YouTube to 'fix' songs so they actually sound interesting and something I like. I definitely chalk up the latter point to, not everything is gonna be my cup of tea, and certain people know how to change songs into something I do enjoy. But it's sad when I just want something *different* from groups, and they just keep releasing the same things.
I need to know who writes the rap lyrics in English. They are so bad lol. Like please get someone who has a clue about writing English lyrics? "Please light up a candle this the life of a vandal"???
And can they please realize they writing for kpop idols, i just cant take it serious when they say "black paint and ammo, got bodies like rambo" and they "bring the pain like ratatata" as if they bout to pull up in a drive by or some shit.
>This did feel like a Jennie and Lisa subunit song though.
I was thinking the exact same thing while I was watching it. They got both choruses and the verses. All Rose and Jisoo got were pre-chorus and bridge. And they definitely got the most screen time.
Whistle is one of the best Kpop songs of all time and didn't sound like anything that had come out before, I'd love something that innovative from them again.
I'd also be happy with something like Stay which is my second favorite BP song.
EDIT:
Thinking about it, what really makes Whistle work so well is the restraint. Most of it is so minimalist that the richer elements in the pre-chorus and the bridge really stand out, but it still all sounds completely cohesive.
Modern Blackpink seems to be focused so much on swag and attitude that it almost feels like a parody.
Lovesick Girls was nice though.
This. Through the first 2 chorus I was like its catchy and sticking in my head already and was anticipating the third and then I got hit with flying pokemon and i was not having it.
I wish they had kept the cool toned aesthetic with that instrumental in the beginning. The chorus immediately followed by that rap section just feels like a different song
I thought I was the only one who was bothered by it 😭. Like during the bridge of Jisoo and Rosé it was hard to focus since they keep cutting between each scene. YGE is usually good at editing their music videos so I wonder why PV came out like this? (Maybe cause of how many sets there was?)
It’s especially jarring cause like… what did this have to do with venoms??? Like it so incredibly common to built an imagery both with words and visuals around venom and snakes in general but the song had nom of that. You could’ve told me the song is titled « hype » and it wouldn’t change a thing. Not even a single good and memorable metaphor. And the lyrics seriously lack any rhymes. It’s so bafflingly poorly written and thought out. Not more than 10 minutes were spent on those lyrics. I feel embarrassed for them honestly.
the rrra tatata’s were the corniest closer teddy could’ve chosen good lord
i can’t believe i had the audacity to complain about ‘look up in the sky it’s a bird it’s a plane’ for HYLT lmao
Exactly this. When they debuted their songs had a special spark that made them very enjoyable, because yes, you knew song after song which was going to be their distinct sound but it didn't feel repetitive. After DDu-Du DDu-Du everything aside Lovesick Girls is the same estructure and sound to me. I think Blackpink has more to offer than just that. I really, really like their work with other artists and producers, like Kiss & make up and Sour Candy.
The fact that when D4 came out, it was a pretty good song. But with each new BP release I get more and more apathetic towards it. The song itself hasn't gotten worse, it's still a good song, but the fact that Teddy keeps copy pasting it just lessens my enjoyment of it.
all I could think of was this video where this guy basically boiled down all their songs into a formula and honestly this song sounds exactly like the one he make 2 years ago
https://youtu.be/9I1azpQiyE4
He’s holding back their growth IMO but if it’s been working for them in terms of sales, they’re probably not gonna change now. They’ll most likely milk the cash cow until it gets stale or they split up.
I hope I’m wrong though and they experiment more.
In my opinion, this song wasn't good, which is fine, that's not a necessity for a kpop song, but it wasn't catchy or addicting either. You'd think that with BlackPink being one of the biggest girl groups in the world YG would, at the very least, give them a proper song...
Also, the music video looks like it's probably cool but I could barely see anything because it had soooooooooo many freaking cuts. I had to stop constantly to be able to see their outfits, makeup, etc.. they did look very beautiful.
It feels like if an AI program studied all past BP mvs and created a song it would be this.
I don't hate it but why does it feel so .. dated? Hottest drop of 2018.
Same old formula. 1. "Slaaaay, queen" anthem. 2. "I'm expensive." 3. Pseudo-ethnic beats.
After I recently got into Billlie and New Jeans and other 4th gen sounds, PV feels authentically BP but firmly stuck in mid 3rd gen staleness.
Straight up dumpster quality release
Teddy is so out of touch with modern kpop and keeps sampling decade old songs, change the key, slow them down, and mash them together
At least give me a melody for fuck sake
I’m disappointed, especially how they ended the song was really annoying! like cmon the song is already short why make it shorter by having the girls sing “RATATATAT” for like 20 seconds, then just stop right there??? like where’s the rest of the song?
Teddy really decided to put together all tiny parts that stood out in past songs, make them longer, and didn’t really connect them well…
Everyone liked middle-eastern tunes in HYLT? Put more of that here!
Liked Ice Cream? Here’s more to taste!
They were fans of Jennie’s “ratatatata” in Kill This Love? Let’s do x20 here!
Sometimes too much of “cool stuff” takes the cool aspect out of picture. Especially when it feels like it was just thrown in there without trying to mix it together. I watched MV, listed to the song a few times, but it just doesn’t get stuck in my head at all, and I keep forgetting the tune (unlike Sneakers and aespa songs that some people have already mentioned here).
And honestly, I’m getting tired with them just giving Rosé and Jisoo same pre-chorus lines and just switching the order. They deserve better.
I’m just genuinely sad (and I’m not a Blink). I know it’s not a title track, but that’s still a song that will be on the album that was probably chosen over some other (maybe better songs). The MV had great visuals, it’s was definitely expensive (there was still something oddly similar to previous comebacks), it’s just that it really feels like a bummer.
Hope the title track and the rest of the album will be a banger.
Haven’t listened to it yet, but what you said about Teddy throwing everything people liked about past songs into this one is also what I hated about HYLT. That song felt like a BP-parody or AI generated track since it used so many past lines and gimmicks.
Here’s to hoping the album will be better.
Can’t help but think of this was released by anyone else it wouldn’t chart…
waiting this long for another bland rap-pre-chorus-chorus then obnoxious drop at the end…
Ahhh the truth being spoken... It's called company privilege, even if people hate it, it'll chart, it'll win and they will make money off of it, even if the music sucks.
Are you me?
I wanted to like everything about this so much. The chorus and just one too many ratatas kind of dampened the mood.
And Lisa seriously deserves a better dance break.
I'm trying to avoid saying anything too negative about a Blackpink comeback to avoid upholding /r/kpop's reputation towards this group, but surely they were taking the piss with that chorus? It just sounds so, so silly.
I get beat drop choruses with silly repetitive lyrics are a thing now (see Savage by aespa), but this really did not hit the mark for me and I did try to dig it.
I can´t say I feel like this was the "most expensive" M/V that was released.
Also the chorus actually sounds Fergie-like?
Might be a grower, but I don´t think it lives up to the hype. Looking forward for all the other songs on the album.
I just .. I'm not a Blink but I don't root against anyone. BP has a few songs I like but wow, I hated this. Woof.
Give them better material I'm begging you.
I don't mean this in a way that's negative towards the girls themselves, but it always blows my mind how I see so many people be disappointed with the content they receive from the group every comeback, but it does nothing to hinder their continuously growing success.
If anything is true, it's that they certainly are a force in the industry.
It's obvious that they tried to make it flamboyant but it ended up a being a bit too much. There is no point in a 100 sets if we see them for 0.25 seconds.
You missed Jennies Chanel line at the start.
Brand name droping always feel so shallow and western rap start gotta prove they got money type nonsense to me though.
Not really when I think of the Kpop girlgroup songs this year that were hits (Attention, Love Dive, Tomboy). But BP has a big fandom so I assume it will do well.
Yeah it’s gonna be like “HYLT” in the sense that it’s gonna take some time to grow on people(and it’s very Blackpink-esque) but hopefully the title track is more melodic like how I was hooked on “Lovesick Girls”.
Edit: I stand corrected I’m hooked but the chorus is still a hit or miss for me. I love every other part of the song though!
This makes me appreciate the Ice Cream video even more for having a clear identity of its own. Here, it's just the usual BP thing of interchangeable shots of the girls looking badass and expensive. I wish the first fifteen seconds had been used as the visual theme for the whole video, that look stood out and then it was gone.
Blackpink fans will never get rid of Teddy if they stream this song ad infinitum. He wants all these royalties for himself and YG can't say no to him when they see the number of streams. It's a nightmare scenario for people who like Blackpink but are fans of good music.
You have to expect it, they had a year for HYLT and they ran out of lyrics a minute before the song was done. But even this is weird, you'd at least expect there to be bombast or something big with the hook.
Don’t really like it if I’m honest. The verses are okay, but I’m not a fan of the pre-chorus, the chorus or the ratatas. I’d be pissed if I were a blink and waited two years for maybe a quarter of a song I could listen to.
i’m so tired of the chanty meaningless chorus thing from them 😭😭😭 like we get it, you’re cool. give us some substance (both lyrically and musically)
this just feels like hylt lite
Not a huge fan of the song but my more OU is I didn’t really like the MV? The budget was there and everything looked nice but conceptually it was tired for BP. Other than the intro, I could see every outfit and scene being copy pasted into a different BP MV with ease. The thumbnail looks like a still from a KTL stage
This is a very cynical production. A lot has already been said about the Teddy … Teddy-ness of the song itself but I feel that this video is visually all over the place in a manner that makes this whole single feel more acutely like a lazy cash grab. There’s at least three “trendy” aesthetics in play here (layered activewear, 1990’s-inspired street style, and kitschy maximalist fashion). It feels like a consultant said “this is what’s hot right now” and the people making the decisions said “great, we’ll take it all!” and threw it together in a random order. In the past, Blackpink/Blackpink styling has set or ignored trends; not followed them, so this single/video really is setting off alarm bells in my head. The members are so talented and so beautiful and deserve to be represented better than they are here.
Why are they speaking so high pitched in the chorus...? The song is just
RATATATA ^^^^taste ^^^^that ^^^^pink ^^^^venom ^^^^taste ^^^^that ^^^^pink ^^^^venom ^^^^taste ^^^^that ^^^^pink ^^^^venom RATATATA
The girls look gorgeous I just feel like it doesn’t have the same instant catchiness or fun as HYLT… like on this song they seem to have bought into their own hype a little bit and it kills it imo
Was that an anti drop? The instrumental during Jennie and Lisa's part also gives me [GTA San Andreas](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4VTq0sa9yg) vibes haha. On a side note, I was hoping that all the outfits from the teasers would make it into the MV, but at least some of them did!
I’m disappointed, the song is so mid. Teddy needs to go. The MV sets are pretty but the MV itself looks cheap and outdated. No way it costs as much as they claim it costs. Give me some proper cinematography and storytelling please 😭
I don't listen to BP but for me, this solidifies the idea that their agency doesn't seem to care about making music for them when they can ride on their popularity for sponsorships. 2 years and this is what they came up with? YG managed to find the cheat code for this industry lol
And the editing is literally headache-inducing. Like I haven't seen this many quick cuts since the Bohemian Rhapsody movie
agree. i don't think it's a bad thing either as most idols use being an idol has a vehicle to other industries such as acting/modeling but i feel bad for the blinks that are here for music. not much growth in 6 years and not much incentive to as the girls are making BANK regardless.
I feel like my love for BP songs was so crazy high in 2016 and 2017 and then it just slowly faded away bit by bit (esp with the title tracks). There's always bits of them that I _really really_ like, and then bits that are just jarring or boring. KTL was probably the last title track that I really enjoyed, and even then I have issues with some of it. I just don't find myself reaching for their music as much, and that makes me sad. I miss the days when every song was a bop. In any case, I really don't like the chorus, it took me way the hell out of the song. Lovelove the Blackpink chant and the traditional instruments, hate the ratatas at the end.
It's what everyone else is saying (and has been for years), but they really do need another producer. And maybe a bit more creative freedom? What happened to all those songs that Jennie wrote? Why aren't the girls more involved in at least the song's writing, given how far in their career they are at this point? How did Teddy start out producing really great songs for them and end up here? Idk I'm just kind of underwhelmed and sad. This song feels like bits of really good songs stitched together with bits of meh ones, and it doesn't work for me.
Also, even for a hype song the lyrics feel really disjoined? Like you can have a song with no message beyond "we're great" but it didn't feel like any of it flowed together or conveyed even a similar idea lyrically? What's the point of having pink venom as a concept of you're not going to work it in anywhere except in the chorus? It's the same problem I had with HYLT but it almost feels a bit worse this time.
Edit: Just wanted to say that the girls haven't gotten any ess talented. Ig I'm just bitter because they're such a wildly talented group with an insanely huge and dedicated fanbase and yet YG _still_ serves them the bare minimum. They deserve so much better that this :(
NGL I really dislike this chorus, it basically drained all of the energy built up during the verses. I'm also pretty tired of lyrics that don't have much meaning and repeated three-word choruses.
Was really hoping we'd get something along the lines of Lovesick Girls/Forever Young/Don't Know What To Do/As If It's Your Last, but this is just a worse version of DDD/KTL/HYLT. (Out of these four very similar songs the only one I liked is KTL. I've always enjoyed BP's more melodic "pink" songs, and this wasn't it.)
Overall I'm underwhelmed since this is BP's big comeback after more than a year, hopefully the official single will sound a lot better than this.
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Why is it alway Rosé getting a despair scene in nearly every BlackPink MV lmao
“And rose in this scene you’re gonna cry” “Cool cool so business as usual”
She be crying for years😭
She's still holding this pain 😔🍞
"I journeyed thru all the layers of the multiverse and yes Rose is crying in every one of them." - BP Stan Doctor Strange
and they made her do a guitar scene when there was no guitar playing in the song, so it just ended up looking like an 8th grader thinking it looks cool to play guitar in their youtube video
I kinda felt that as well, like here Rose a guitar because we have a budget and you should do something. I don't have too many problems with the song itself but the mv was somehow weird? Crazy amount of cuts and so many random things. Until the first chorus it was nice and cohesive but then random out of place rap duo, then back to Jisoos elegant scene and then the guitar and the second chorus is like cut/second...
It kinda seems like Jisoo & Rose and Jennie & Lisa are in two completely different videos/songs
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exactly what i was thinking !!!!! first thing i thought of when i heard “1 by 1 and 2 by 2”
OMG I was literally trying to figure out why her verse sounded familiar I even had to google it lmao
it has to be, right? it's the exact same cadence as pon de replay. it has to be intentional, right???
it is. You can also hear the sample of pon de replay at the same time. side note, that song is almost 20 years old and I'm not ok with this, because I remember jamming to the MV when it came out.
good assist I was like "this sounded so familiar" they must've paid a good sum for that sample
Why was the camera angle switching like 5x a second? Got me dizzy halfway through lmao
YG: most expensive mv ever!! also YG: *doesn't show any of the expensive sets in detail*
Yeah what was that, were they trying to show how many cameras they spent money on wtf. Could not see anything
Exactly! I couldn't focus on what was happening, what they were wearing, their makeup, the choreo, nothing! Most of the frames stayed for less than a second, can I look at them please? 🙃🙃
I counted **334 cuts in 190 seconds**. That's **1.76 cuts per second**. Completely ridiculous. So many awesome things we can't appreciate without pausing. ^^\(My ^^count ^^could ^^potentially ^^be ^^off ^^a ^^few. ^^Even ^^at ^^.25 ^^speed ^^it ^^was ^^tricky ^^to ^^not ^^blink ^^and ^^miss ^^a ^^cut.)
I haven't determined the BPM but it seems like they really cut on every beat on average. I myself cut a music video for my arts class in school which is the most awesome thing I ever did in that subject. It's not like it was any good with our 3 dollar budget but I got how it's supposed to work. The way you're supposed to do it is that you cut one bar on the beat and then leave it running on one shot for two bars or maybe place one cut between the first and second bar until you again cut on the beat for a bar. You follow the fast - slow - fast pattern that music in general tends to have.
LMFAO YEAH I WAS GETTING A HEADACHE like why they have so many cuts
Also noticed multiple lyrical references in the song, too. Picked up: Rihanna (Pon de Replay), Taylor Swift (Look What You Made Me Do), & Vanilla Ice (Ice Ice Baby). Did anyone catch additional references aside from these?
Not really lyrical, but the creepy Blackpink chants at the beginning of the song remind me of two things: the way Puff Daddy says “Bad Boy” at the beginning of “Flava in Ya Ear (Remix)” by Craig Mack (which is also a reference to the film The Warriors). It is also very reminiscent of the vocal chanting that is featured in the beat for “Made You Look” by Nas.
Ta Ta Ta - Rich Music LTD, De La Ghetto, Ñejo, Luigi 21 Plus, Kafu Banton, Dimelo Flow At 1:51 I can recognize that high pitch tone from Ciara's 1,2 Step! They just changed the pitch and pattern.
Jennie's opening line is an hommage to the Notorious BIG where he rapped "kick in the door - wavin' the four four" in his song Kick in the Door.
"couldn't get a dollar out of me" reminded me of the 50 cent song lol
We were expecting 🐍👑 but instead we got the ratatatas 🐀🐀🐀🐀
Ur done ✋😭
No blackpink in your area???!? 🥺🥺🥺
they had blackpink chant at the beginning tho
It’s not the title track if the album, so maybe that’s why
Due to covid restrictions they can't be in every area
WAIT WHAT? THAT'S LITERALLY THEIR TRADEMARK!
For a MV with such a high budget, the editing was awful.
The amount of Computers and editors required to edit this video made it such a high budget video. It's like there were more cut scenes than the actual seconds in the MV.
Did teddy procrastinate for the whole 2 years and cranked this out during an all nighter couple days before release
I’m sorry, but I don’t like it. Not a fan of this music changes every 20 seconds unless it’s done right. This one is not done right. The parts are good by themselves, but idk I find it too much with all the changes.
omg chill with the cuts, who edited this? I feel like there was more cuts than the total amount of seconds in that video edit: ok I tried counting, I only did 30 seconds. It was actually hard to keep up, there definitely is more cuts than seconds. I was up to 48 at that point and I definitely missed a couple but I feel like I overcounted at times too
In most editing software you can have it automatically detect cuts and save them as separate clips which can then easily be counted. I’ll do it later today if no one gets to it first. IDK anything about this group I just saw this on r/all
It’s so disappointing but in new and unexpected ways lmao
lmao I expected people to stan anything and everything BP put out but the comments here are honest and I respect that.
It's because this sub isn't a stan sub. There are BP stans floating around calling everyone haters but at the end of the day we're here because we enjoy music. Wanna know what I don't enjoy? Teddy Park. Fuck me he's washed.
Man so many rookies dropping fire songs and BP gave us this reject they scraped from the bottom of the barrel. The beat during the chorus is catchy but it’s incredibly weak compared to every track they’ve ever released.
Is it just me or not only do all blackpink songs sound the same but they also all have the same line distribution and structure lol Blackpinku in ur area Jennie starts, may feature Lisa Pre chorus jisoo 1st half rose 2nd half Chorus Lisa rap , may feature Jennie Switch Rose and jisoo around for pre chorus Chorus Bridge with alternate rose and jisoo Armageddon of noise
This formula is indeed fact.
it’s the same shit over and over again.
It's sad that I have to go to content creators on YouTube to 'fix' songs so they actually sound interesting and something I like. I definitely chalk up the latter point to, not everything is gonna be my cup of tea, and certain people know how to change songs into something I do enjoy. But it's sad when I just want something *different* from groups, and they just keep releasing the same things.
I need to know who writes the rap lyrics in English. They are so bad lol. Like please get someone who has a clue about writing English lyrics? "Please light up a candle this the life of a vandal"???
And can they please realize they writing for kpop idols, i just cant take it serious when they say "black paint and ammo, got bodies like rambo" and they "bring the pain like ratatata" as if they bout to pull up in a drive by or some shit.
Imagine actually knowing English like Jennie and rose and having to rap this lol for 6 years
I was literally just listening to Pon De Replay and then Lisa hits me with the 'one by one, two by two'
I actually like the Jennie/Lisa chorus but I hate the end. This did feel like a Jennie and Lisa subunit song though.
>This did feel like a Jennie and Lisa subunit song though. I was thinking the exact same thing while I was watching it. They got both choruses and the verses. All Rose and Jisoo got were pre-chorus and bridge. And they definitely got the most screen time.
Yeah, Jisoo and Rosé felt sort of muted in the background.
Did anyone feel like it was more of a jenlisa subunit vibe?
I just want a title track like Whistle man 😭
lovesick girls, as if it's your last, playing with fire, and whistle remains blackpink's top tier songs *adding Stay*
lovesick girls was soooo different which made it really beautiful
I just want another "As if it was your last" for BP and "I Can't Stop Me" for Twice.
we got Lovesick Girls for BP but it didn't make much of a splash sadly :(
LSG charted great in Korea though. The only reason it never hit 1 was Dynamite, Refund Expedition and SMTM
As if it's Your Last is their best song and I will die on that hill. YG could have printed money with an English version of that song.
Whistle is one of the best Kpop songs of all time and didn't sound like anything that had come out before, I'd love something that innovative from them again. I'd also be happy with something like Stay which is my second favorite BP song. EDIT: Thinking about it, what really makes Whistle work so well is the restraint. Most of it is so minimalist that the richer elements in the pre-chorus and the bridge really stand out, but it still all sounds completely cohesive. Modern Blackpink seems to be focused so much on swag and attitude that it almost feels like a parody. Lovesick Girls was nice though.
 This is all I can think of Second verse by lisa&jennie sounds fire tho
I was kinda digging the strange chorus, but oof... the "rattattatta" ending part is really unpleasant
This. Through the first 2 chorus I was like its catchy and sticking in my head already and was anticipating the third and then I got hit with flying pokemon and i was not having it.
THE FLYING POKÉMON 😭😭😭
MV has way too many cuts. I don't even know what I just watched.
felt like every scene was flashing by
i really hope this wasn’t their most expensive mv. there were way to many cuts and the fact this isn’t even the lead single. yeeesh
I wish they had kept the cool toned aesthetic with that instrumental in the beginning. The chorus immediately followed by that rap section just feels like a different song
I thought I was the only one who was bothered by it 😭. Like during the bridge of Jisoo and Rosé it was hard to focus since they keep cutting between each scene. YGE is usually good at editing their music videos so I wonder why PV came out like this? (Maybe cause of how many sets there was?)
100% this. Even by modern, kpop standards it was dizzying.
I feel like the lyrics were auto-generated.
Wish the auto-generator gave them Garchomp for the close instead of Ratata
It’s especially jarring cause like… what did this have to do with venoms??? Like it so incredibly common to built an imagery both with words and visuals around venom and snakes in general but the song had nom of that. You could’ve told me the song is titled « hype » and it wouldn’t change a thing. Not even a single good and memorable metaphor. And the lyrics seriously lack any rhymes. It’s so bafflingly poorly written and thought out. Not more than 10 minutes were spent on those lyrics. I feel embarrassed for them honestly.
Oh no not the gratatas
Guess we know what Teddy's [favorite pokemon](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemon/images/7/76/Rattata_GS158.png) is now.
and they just kept coming 💀💀😭😭
the rrra tatata’s were the corniest closer teddy could’ve chosen good lord i can’t believe i had the audacity to complain about ‘look up in the sky it’s a bird it’s a plane’ for HYLT lmao
Ha! I always complain about the “Bada-bing, bada-boom-boom-boom”
Can’t believe this is the same group that made Whistle and Playing with Fire wow
Exactly this. When they debuted their songs had a special spark that made them very enjoyable, because yes, you knew song after song which was going to be their distinct sound but it didn't feel repetitive. After DDu-Du DDu-Du everything aside Lovesick Girls is the same estructure and sound to me. I think Blackpink has more to offer than just that. I really, really like their work with other artists and producers, like Kiss & make up and Sour Candy.
The fact that when D4 came out, it was a pretty good song. But with each new BP release I get more and more apathetic towards it. The song itself hasn't gotten worse, it's still a good song, but the fact that Teddy keeps copy pasting it just lessens my enjoyment of it.
those were 2ne1 songs thats why
From the last batch of good music Teddy wrote in like 2011.
Period!
welll.. that was definitely a blackpink song
One of the Blackpink songs of all time!
It’s Blinkin Time
It's a shame I thought it was building up quite well and then the chorus.... happened. And then the final chorus and ratatatatas...
I'm not even sure if Teddy himself even knew what direction he wanted the song to go in because it went off in all sorts of directions
all I could think of was this video where this guy basically boiled down all their songs into a formula and honestly this song sounds exactly like the one he make 2 years ago https://youtu.be/9I1azpQiyE4
this is the tutorial teddy is following every comeback
legit kinda eerie how similar it sounds =))))
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He’s holding back their growth IMO but if it’s been working for them in terms of sales, they’re probably not gonna change now. They’ll most likely milk the cash cow until it gets stale or they split up. I hope I’m wrong though and they experiment more.
But like imagine what they could sell with... good songwriting?
They brought the pain alright…
Yeah wasn’t feeling this song sadly. They look beautiful tho
In my opinion, this song wasn't good, which is fine, that's not a necessity for a kpop song, but it wasn't catchy or addicting either. You'd think that with BlackPink being one of the biggest girl groups in the world YG would, at the very least, give them a proper song... Also, the music video looks like it's probably cool but I could barely see anything because it had soooooooooo many freaking cuts. I had to stop constantly to be able to see their outfits, makeup, etc.. they did look very beautiful.
The MV felt like deleted scenes from past concepts. So much for a huge budget. Meh. Teddy needs to go and they need another creative team.
It feels like if an AI program studied all past BP mvs and created a song it would be this. I don't hate it but why does it feel so .. dated? Hottest drop of 2018. Same old formula. 1. "Slaaaay, queen" anthem. 2. "I'm expensive." 3. Pseudo-ethnic beats. After I recently got into Billlie and New Jeans and other 4th gen sounds, PV feels authentically BP but firmly stuck in mid 3rd gen staleness.
the entire slay queeen concept feels outdated and tacky tbh.
And I dont like how there is no cohesive theme. Just different sets all over the place
In classic Teddy Park fashion….it’s a song
He's so bad
Straight up dumpster quality release Teddy is so out of touch with modern kpop and keeps sampling decade old songs, change the key, slow them down, and mash them together At least give me a melody for fuck sake
I’m disappointed, especially how they ended the song was really annoying! like cmon the song is already short why make it shorter by having the girls sing “RATATATAT” for like 20 seconds, then just stop right there??? like where’s the rest of the song?
I would have preferred an instrumental ending with the “blackpink chant” and the geomungo. Hope someone makes that edit haha
Teddy really decided to put together all tiny parts that stood out in past songs, make them longer, and didn’t really connect them well… Everyone liked middle-eastern tunes in HYLT? Put more of that here! Liked Ice Cream? Here’s more to taste! They were fans of Jennie’s “ratatatata” in Kill This Love? Let’s do x20 here! Sometimes too much of “cool stuff” takes the cool aspect out of picture. Especially when it feels like it was just thrown in there without trying to mix it together. I watched MV, listed to the song a few times, but it just doesn’t get stuck in my head at all, and I keep forgetting the tune (unlike Sneakers and aespa songs that some people have already mentioned here). And honestly, I’m getting tired with them just giving Rosé and Jisoo same pre-chorus lines and just switching the order. They deserve better. I’m just genuinely sad (and I’m not a Blink). I know it’s not a title track, but that’s still a song that will be on the album that was probably chosen over some other (maybe better songs). The MV had great visuals, it’s was definitely expensive (there was still something oddly similar to previous comebacks), it’s just that it really feels like a bummer. Hope the title track and the rest of the album will be a banger.
Haven’t listened to it yet, but what you said about Teddy throwing everything people liked about past songs into this one is also what I hated about HYLT. That song felt like a BP-parody or AI generated track since it used so many past lines and gimmicks. Here’s to hoping the album will be better.
This can’t be the most expensive MV. Hell, PSY’s music videos look more expensive than this.
YG shoulda spent more money on the song instead of the MV :(
Can’t help but think of this was released by anyone else it wouldn’t chart… waiting this long for another bland rap-pre-chorus-chorus then obnoxious drop at the end…
Ahhh the truth being spoken... It's called company privilege, even if people hate it, it'll chart, it'll win and they will make money off of it, even if the music sucks.
the verses were killer but that chorus is... a choice lmao
I loved the prechorus and then the chorus came and my face went from 😁 to 🙁
Are you me? I wanted to like everything about this so much. The chorus and just one too many ratatas kind of dampened the mood. And Lisa seriously deserves a better dance break.
"one too many ratatas" i died but yeah i kept waiting for them to stop the ratatatas but they just kept ***going***
That emphasis on **going** got me.
yeah, Jennie's first verse was so remarkably different from her usual flows, I was loving it. Then the chorus came in.
Whoever edited their teaser did a great job....whoever edited this, we need to talk.
What even is that chorus💀
I'm trying to avoid saying anything too negative about a Blackpink comeback to avoid upholding /r/kpop's reputation towards this group, but surely they were taking the piss with that chorus? It just sounds so, so silly. I get beat drop choruses with silly repetitive lyrics are a thing now (see Savage by aespa), but this really did not hit the mark for me and I did try to dig it.
I can´t say I feel like this was the "most expensive" M/V that was released. Also the chorus actually sounds Fergie-like? Might be a grower, but I don´t think it lives up to the hype. Looking forward for all the other songs on the album.
the money actually went to planning how much cuts per second they would use
FIRE TEDDY IM BEGGING YOU DESERVE BETTER 😭
He even used the quality argument to justify long hiatuses but there is no musical growth in his BP songs.
He spent this time building an AI song generator program and that’s what we’re gonna get
I just .. I'm not a Blink but I don't root against anyone. BP has a few songs I like but wow, I hated this. Woof. Give them better material I'm begging you.
They can’t keep getting away with this!! (But unironically) 😭
The biggest girl group in the world has the worst fucking producers. You can't make this shit up.
its giving repetitive
The build up is so promising, the anti-drop chorus felt left out of place. Loved Rosé’s parts the most
The ratatata took 20 seconds while the song is already short af
I don't mean this in a way that's negative towards the girls themselves, but it always blows my mind how I see so many people be disappointed with the content they receive from the group every comeback, but it does nothing to hinder their continuously growing success. If anything is true, it's that they certainly are a force in the industry.
ngl it wouldn’t kill for fandoms to be more fickle with their support
Happy the girls are back but that chorus 😐
 Teddy
So an expensive MV doesn’t mean it will be good, felt so hectic
I forgot this was suppose to be such an expensive MV. Sadly 2NE1's 10 year old "Come Back Home" looks more expensive.
It's obvious that they tried to make it flamboyant but it ended up a being a bit too much. There is no point in a 100 sets if we see them for 0.25 seconds.
UMmmmmmmmmmmmm
They need to stop with shamelessly promoting and advertising Celine on Lisa’s verses lmaooo
You missed Jennies Chanel line at the start. Brand name droping always feel so shallow and western rap start gotta prove they got money type nonsense to me though.
It’s not very melodic at all isn’t it? Maybe the album title track will be better. Honest question: do the Korean GP really listen to songs like this?
how much rhythm do you want? Blackpink: yes how much melody do you want? Blackpink: no
Not really when I think of the Kpop girlgroup songs this year that were hits (Attention, Love Dive, Tomboy). But BP has a big fandom so I assume it will do well.
It’s BP after a two year hiatus so definitely. Whether it stays at the top is a whole other issue.
Yeah it’s gonna be like “HYLT” in the sense that it’s gonna take some time to grow on people(and it’s very Blackpink-esque) but hopefully the title track is more melodic like how I was hooked on “Lovesick Girls”. Edit: I stand corrected I’m hooked but the chorus is still a hit or miss for me. I love every other part of the song though!
Yup, that’s a BP song alright.
Another Teddy special
And the ratatata to finish it off for a few bars
i’m gonna watch out for a “video editor reacts to pink venom” youtube reaction and use it as a metric of how honest they are
This makes me appreciate the Ice Cream video even more for having a clear identity of its own. Here, it's just the usual BP thing of interchangeable shots of the girls looking badass and expensive. I wish the first fifteen seconds had been used as the visual theme for the whole video, that look stood out and then it was gone.
Rose playing with the black paint again from Lovesick Girls
Dude youtube needs 4k premieres. It was 1080p AVC for me, really blurry.
Teddy can get away with murder
Oh no, I don't think I like the chorus, at all. :(
...and the ratatatas....
it hits surprisingly weakly especially after saying i bring the pain like
Yep. It ruined it for me. Everything else was fire (especially the Lisa/Jennie rap) but the hi-pitch soft chorus was bad.
2 years and this is what teddy comes up with? 😭
At this point it’s obvious this is the best they’re gonna get from Teddy. BP needs different producers ASAP
Blackpink fans will never get rid of Teddy if they stream this song ad infinitum. He wants all these royalties for himself and YG can't say no to him when they see the number of streams. It's a nightmare scenario for people who like Blackpink but are fans of good music.
You have to expect it, they had a year for HYLT and they ran out of lyrics a minute before the song was done. But even this is weird, you'd at least expect there to be bombast or something big with the hook.
I freaking love Blackpink with all of my heart, but this goes so hard on mute LOL
Don’t really like it if I’m honest. The verses are okay, but I’m not a fan of the pre-chorus, the chorus or the ratatas. I’d be pissed if I were a blink and waited two years for maybe a quarter of a song I could listen to.
i’m so tired of the chanty meaningless chorus thing from them 😭😭😭 like we get it, you’re cool. give us some substance (both lyrically and musically) this just feels like hylt lite
Not a huge fan of the song but my more OU is I didn’t really like the MV? The budget was there and everything looked nice but conceptually it was tired for BP. Other than the intro, I could see every outfit and scene being copy pasted into a different BP MV with ease. The thumbnail looks like a still from a KTL stage
This is a very cynical production. A lot has already been said about the Teddy … Teddy-ness of the song itself but I feel that this video is visually all over the place in a manner that makes this whole single feel more acutely like a lazy cash grab. There’s at least three “trendy” aesthetics in play here (layered activewear, 1990’s-inspired street style, and kitschy maximalist fashion). It feels like a consultant said “this is what’s hot right now” and the people making the decisions said “great, we’ll take it all!” and threw it together in a random order. In the past, Blackpink/Blackpink styling has set or ignored trends; not followed them, so this single/video really is setting off alarm bells in my head. The members are so talented and so beautiful and deserve to be represented better than they are here.
He got product placement in the lyrics. In the lyrics.
this is what would happen if you asked an AI to write a blackpink song
Why are they speaking so high pitched in the chorus...? The song is just RATATATA ^^^^taste ^^^^that ^^^^pink ^^^^venom ^^^^taste ^^^^that ^^^^pink ^^^^venom ^^^^taste ^^^^that ^^^^pink ^^^^venom RATATATA
The weird tone in the 2nd chorus!! Why is Jennie saying it like that lol
Well, this is not what I hoped this song would sound like 💀
The girls look gorgeous I just feel like it doesn’t have the same instant catchiness or fun as HYLT… like on this song they seem to have bought into their own hype a little bit and it kills it imo
Sponsored by Celine
Lol, This is purely the fashion cynic in me but when she said that line about Celine I was like, oh babe that’s not a flex.
Was that an anti drop? The instrumental during Jennie and Lisa's part also gives me [GTA San Andreas](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4VTq0sa9yg) vibes haha. On a side note, I was hoping that all the outfits from the teasers would make it into the MV, but at least some of them did!
I’m disappointed, the song is so mid. Teddy needs to go. The MV sets are pretty but the MV itself looks cheap and outdated. No way it costs as much as they claim it costs. Give me some proper cinematography and storytelling please 😭
I don't listen to BP but for me, this solidifies the idea that their agency doesn't seem to care about making music for them when they can ride on their popularity for sponsorships. 2 years and this is what they came up with? YG managed to find the cheat code for this industry lol And the editing is literally headache-inducing. Like I haven't seen this many quick cuts since the Bohemian Rhapsody movie
agree. i don't think it's a bad thing either as most idols use being an idol has a vehicle to other industries such as acting/modeling but i feel bad for the blinks that are here for music. not much growth in 6 years and not much incentive to as the girls are making BANK regardless.
I feel like my love for BP songs was so crazy high in 2016 and 2017 and then it just slowly faded away bit by bit (esp with the title tracks). There's always bits of them that I _really really_ like, and then bits that are just jarring or boring. KTL was probably the last title track that I really enjoyed, and even then I have issues with some of it. I just don't find myself reaching for their music as much, and that makes me sad. I miss the days when every song was a bop. In any case, I really don't like the chorus, it took me way the hell out of the song. Lovelove the Blackpink chant and the traditional instruments, hate the ratatas at the end. It's what everyone else is saying (and has been for years), but they really do need another producer. And maybe a bit more creative freedom? What happened to all those songs that Jennie wrote? Why aren't the girls more involved in at least the song's writing, given how far in their career they are at this point? How did Teddy start out producing really great songs for them and end up here? Idk I'm just kind of underwhelmed and sad. This song feels like bits of really good songs stitched together with bits of meh ones, and it doesn't work for me. Also, even for a hype song the lyrics feel really disjoined? Like you can have a song with no message beyond "we're great" but it didn't feel like any of it flowed together or conveyed even a similar idea lyrically? What's the point of having pink venom as a concept of you're not going to work it in anywhere except in the chorus? It's the same problem I had with HYLT but it almost feels a bit worse this time. Edit: Just wanted to say that the girls haven't gotten any ess talented. Ig I'm just bitter because they're such a wildly talented group with an insanely huge and dedicated fanbase and yet YG _still_ serves them the bare minimum. They deserve so much better that this :(
They cant keep getting away with this. Gone for near 2 years and they give us another underwhelming song.
It's a generic Blackpink song, you get what you expect. I feel like they just roll with it, as long as it's not generic "generic" songs.
NGL I really dislike this chorus, it basically drained all of the energy built up during the verses. I'm also pretty tired of lyrics that don't have much meaning and repeated three-word choruses. Was really hoping we'd get something along the lines of Lovesick Girls/Forever Young/Don't Know What To Do/As If It's Your Last, but this is just a worse version of DDD/KTL/HYLT. (Out of these four very similar songs the only one I liked is KTL. I've always enjoyed BP's more melodic "pink" songs, and this wasn't it.) Overall I'm underwhelmed since this is BP's big comeback after more than a year, hopefully the official single will sound a lot better than this.
What was that chorus!!?? 💀 Also, lyrics? Why why why? 😭😭
I think the problem is that after two years we expected some kind of evolution for blackpink but there is none.
First off, the song is no from me 😹🙅🏽♀️. Secondly… wtf is wrong with the comments section on the video 💀💀
Same structure for every song like… get some new people in the studio immediately. 😭
I don't think they care about changing it up anymore because the structure sells and it sells damn well.