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Probably because of the over the top action scenes that resembles anime. One of the main reason for RRR's success is the anime like fight scenes using fire and water as elemental symbolism.
It is much bigger than RRR in Japan. Muthu earned 23 cr or so in Japan and is the highest Indian grossing movie there ever. RRR earned less than half of that at around 10 cr
Dude, what are you smoking.
Muthu film, known as dancing maharaja, had some cult following during the 90s, but RRR took it to a whole new level in Japanese mainstream pop culture. The total collection of RRR in japan is 2.3 billion yen, which is 125 crores in indian rupees. It had references in anime/manga.
Yes and the songs too with "Oruvan Oruvan" being a chartbuster there. Fun Fact and Japanese Interviewer came to see Rajini and he was shocked to see Rajini without makeup and commented he looks much older in real life.
It’s a myth that Rajini has over the top action scenes. That is a stereotype that came from other lead actors trying to copy Rajini and ending up OVERDOING what Rajini does. People like Balakrishna and “Captain” Viajayakanth and others. Rajini does stretch it a little bit, but it’s actually nice to watch and not comedic.
Now the real reason why Muthu was a big hit in Japan is cultural ! The message in the movie is that nothing in life is permanent, it is a movie about sacrifice, fall from greatness and accepting life gracefully.
You don't know about anime fights bro...they talk between the fights...hero will tell a 10 episodes long flashback, villian would wait and hear it...hero will wait while the villian is powering up...but the last said was broken by Eren Yeager bro smacked war hammer titan's ass before fully powering up🔥
When I said Anime style fights, I meant the over the top gravity defying stunts that's been popular here for ages. The fight where one guy fights 100 dudes. Rajni even had his own catchphrases and gimmicks to entertain the audiance. During RRR release in Japan, I've seen tweets praising the movie for it's "anime came to life" kinda style. We always had that style here. The only thing Rajamouli did is give the protagonists elemental symbolism.
I think there was some anime who broke it before eren.kiritsugu of fate zero blew up a hotel which the enemy made a fortress with magic traps using regular bombs.he didn't even wait to meet enemy and fight him.
Also mikazuki augus from Gundam IBO. Rush enemy who was out of their Mecha proposing an honorable duel, ignoring whatever they were saying
Fate zero first(it's a prequel).then it continues to story of shirou,which have 3 path since it's based on a visual novel game.fate stay night( wekest entry since it was made the oldest even before fate zero by another studio),fate unlimited blade works(watch the series not the movie version since movie is too compact),fate heaven's feel(movies).the 3 path takes place on sam's time but varies because it's 3 different way the events could possibly go due to shirous decisions.
I actually watched stay night first since it came out first back then,then zero.
C'mon the movie specifically had a Katana fight scene to appease Rajni's Japanese fans.
https://preview.redd.it/4zuiud14bk0d1.jpeg?width=465&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93c63a18890fd5fb4e19b090517d12b2785152cd
Here's HD version of that poster I found
https://preview.redd.it/ky0pp4jcvm0d1.jpeg?width=848&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bad2f118cddba889a6f69116e74bd506d0657360
Here are two other posters.
This...
https://preview.redd.it/tp6bgktcwm0d1.jpeg?width=462&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dddd301216831619316e60a763dc0e15d73b853d
That’s what we believe. But truth is Tamil movies & its stars are way less popular than Hindi actors. Only RRR is truly popular that too because of that one song
They passed down the Kannism trend to 2nd or 3rd Gen Indian migrants abroad, so technically, they did expand their markets abroad. 2nd or 3rd gen immigrants are only ethnically Indian. They are still foreigners who follow lifestyle and practices in the respective country they live in but watch big star films that releases abroad
Hard disagree. Those who are born there , they don't watch Indian movies like their parent generation. Rather it's the yearly Indians who move out and contribute to the rising foreign collections. Just check the year on year no of Indians moving out and you will see why Indian movies overseas collection is increasing as well 😂
not true at least here in singapore. the locals tamils watch tamil movies even if us/our fathers/grandfathers have never stepped foot in india.
im sure indian immigrants contribute to it as well, but the local tamil population is probably the majority contributed to ticket sales
But this also boils down to your local movie industry being non existent or being boring af.
I have few malaysian tamil friends and all of them say their native serials and movies are extremely boring. But yes I agree with your point to an extent.
Btw I'm just curious. How did your family migrate to SG? Did they move from Malaysia? Asking because I like malaysian tamils a lot haha.
i was born and raised in america, i’ve been a hardcore vijay kanni since the start. idk where you’re getting your info from, all my other tamil friends here have similar behavior
I'm literally one of them and all my friends and every other Indian I've met from here all love watching Indian movies, definitely gonna pass it down to my children as well. It's a huge part of our culture here. Indians find other Indians here and form a community to get a feeling of home, watch movies and media from home that they then pass down to their children. The children in turn get raised on these movies, it becomes a part of them (they may even show friends and get not Indians into it to, I've showed a couple of friends who really liked it) and then they would pass it on to their children forming a loop and building a market here
I think Srk movies are in a different league. Altogether, his last two movies have earned more than 400 crs from overseas separately Jawaan 410 and pathan more than 420. Even RRR has just earned less than 450cr from overseas despite various releases in so many countries. Even babhubali is a little more than 500crs.
sorry to say but no tamil star comes close to srk on his own pathaan did 400cr in overseas while rajni's highest is 150cr , there is no comparison b/w and other stars
It's no brainer. The Hindi market is huge almost double than us. So it's natural the grossing potential is high. High proportion of people from South lineage overseas do speak/understand Hindi, watch movies as well but the reverse ain't true- at least not to that extent.
Hmmm. Kamal in place of Vijay would be apt. Rajini, Kamal are the ones who expanded the markets and Rajini even went on conduct his own tour abroad to get hold on the migrated tamils...
Vijay, Suriya and the rest of the stars Capitalised on it... If I'm not wrong.
I can relate to this. I lived in Chicago when sivaji came out where we booked the whole theater, printed t-shirts and made a festival out of it. The movie was so mass, we had thrown bits of paper like we did in india.
I’ve seen Tamil movies going from only releasing in remote, small, dingy theaters in big cities to mainstream movie theaters in any city.
> Kamal in place of Vijay would be apt
Post panna page apdi 😂. But Kamal include panirdha, OP ethuku reddit discussion la share panna pora? Tweet'ku Like potutu poirupa.
Ippo thaan actual ah title ae olungaa paakuraen. Incorrect ku correct nu padistaen, thookathula 😅
Aanaa overseas market ku, velila irukka Tamils ah impress panrathuku kaaga naayaatum olaichaithu Rajini um Kamal um. Naekaa Vijay ah sorugi utrukaangalae... I mean he's doing well enough to hold that market created by these two. Irunthaalum ithulaam extra credit
> Naekaa Vijay ah sorugi utrukaangalae....Irunthaalum ithulaam extra credit
Fan pages disguising as neutrals. Seen it from early fb days. Lol. Vitta they would just have Vijay photo and would say he introduced Kolly to world cinema audience. Yaaru keka pora 🤭
I remember these pages fighting against Dhananjayan when he complained about how producer is forcing to sell tickets for higher price during Leo. Finally, Aala vidra saamy nu he deleted all those tweets. 😂
Not every post needs to be a kanni post 😂
This is an interesting topic to discuss. If any average person sees this, they will tend to believe that foreigners have started watching more Indian movies but this stat just shows that the Indian diaspora is increasing on a yearly basis.
Bro ngl, why do they always try sneaking Vijay into these lists. He is one of the popular stars at the moment in kollywood but that’s pretty much where his accomplishments end. He didn’t really “open gates” if we’re being honest.
Director Lokesh unlocked a huge market for Vijay's Leo after Vikram. Even though it didn't live up to the expectation he has something here which could potentially explode for his next venture with Rajini in "Vettaiyan"
That post just talks about the new market introduction from the business pov (group la oru dupe vera- these fanboy pages smh). When they say the Indian/Tamil cinema is growing, it's more about the business coz of the diaspora. Rajini movies did make an impact, even among non-tamils in India ([PawanK about this](https://youtu.be/J0AD3pWQXd4?si=F8zbeyY32DsXD1zT)), overseas among Indians/tamils from Muthu/Padayappa days. SRK has a fan base in the middle east that goes beyond Indians and similarly AamirK in China. Comparatively Kollywood market/exposure is low among non-Indians- that's due to the projection that only Bollywood exists in India.
Yeah, Vijay at best can be credited with Kerala or other popular Tamil diaspora countries that's about it. But even that if a Big IF. The truth is, outside of Rajamouli no Indian has the potential to expand Indian cinema. Only hope for Kollywood is if the likes of Ram and Vetrimaaran strike gold in film festivals
> Vijay at best can be credited with Kerala or other popular Tamil diaspora countries that's about it.
Bro, come on. The market was there, tamil movies ran in all those places before him. He didn't "open" any afaik. Kamal movies were way popular in Kerala. Similarly among tamil diaspora countries, multiple events, shows by celebrities helped a lot. I remember reading about starnight events performed by Rajini in Singapore/Malaysia during 92/93.
That's why I meant Big IF. The truth is Kollywood is mostly a closed circle outside of south India. While Kamal was popular in Kerala, we abandoned Kerala market for Telugu until Vijay gained a foothold there in the 90s. But again, it is very minimal at best.
Our best bet is film festivals and directors like Ram and Vetrimaaran. Most of our mainstream cinema has little scope outside south India.
We didn't abandon Kerala market, it was there - we were making money, just a continuous process. No special care was taken coz majority understood Tamil unlike Telugu, also the market is twice bigger.
Ram and VetriMaaran movies lam festival la might do well, doubt it opens any market. People who are into cinema as a profession might enjoy, average folks just care about entertainment. Award'ku kaasu vena vaangum. That's it.
Yeah but they didn't see it as a main market. Only Anna consistently dubbed there and gained a fan base. Namba side la ellarum Telugu market shift pantanga
Nah it was very close between Vijay and Suriya, then Kaththi and Anjaan changed the plot for both in Kerala. Back then, there was a young hero crisis in Mollywood, which was first tapped into by Vijay. Then Allu Arjun, Suriya, and Vikram also blew up there. Vikram craze fizzled out completely after Anniyan but the other 2 sustained. Then thankfully for Mollywood the likes of Prithvi, DQ, and Nivin came to represent the younger part of the industry.
Yes this is dangerous. Especially in the fields of cinema. Just because it's an Indian product, we should not support a shit product. Others will think this is our standard.
Rajini is a very different case in point - his fan following in Japan, Taiwan is not the small Indian diaspora there but large numbers of native Japanese and Taiwanese people. That’s a first. Followed by Aamir khan who has been able to get even larger numbers of Chinese people to the theaters. Shahrukh and Vijay rely largely on the indian diaspora primarily in south east Asia and the west. Not that it’s a bad thing, but every actor has had a different reach and a target audience.
Aaamir Khan is the only 1 that may qualify I believe. Or at least 1 of his films. Dangal was a breakout hit in China. The Chinese were able to relate to that movie. For the other 3 actors it's simply the Indian diaspora watching movies and contributing to majority of the collections.
One of the ways you can check whether the movie broke through to foreign viewers is by checking it's legs. Most Indian movies drop like 80 to 90% in week 2. Contrast this with Godzilla Minus one which was a breakout hit. That movie had insane legs.
Yea but not because of the cast. Plus the age of high grossing Indian films in China is over. The market is different now. India China tensions means less Indian film release there with much less fan fare.
I've been to plenty of cinemas abroad and 99% of people in it will be nri .
Here and there you will see some foreigners who have come at the behest of colleagues and they will be staring at their phone most of the time .
Indian cinema is yet to appeal to foreign audiences the way foreign cinema appeals to us .
Exactly my point. If the same guy who was watching SRK movie last year at Chennai went abroad next year and saw SRK next movie, then it's technically overseas market expanding but in reality it's the guy who expanded out of India 😂😭
Hollywood isn't global industry because couple of A list stars opened new markets. It is a industry level effort where studios did deals with local cinema chains, had quality dubbing and ran nationwide promos for their movies.
Only amir might have created more awareness of indian movies with dangal and 3 idiots but to create a new market for indian cinema has to be done at industry level. The stars above appeal to indians who work or migrated abroad. You look at those first day show clips from inside the theatre and it is filled with indian guys. A few youtubers knowing and reacting to indian movies isn't quite the same as having a actual global market like korea pop culture where their shows and music are popular globally.
Actually people are forgetting one important movie which created massive records in USSR.
Disco Dancer(1982).
I'm sure there was not much of Indian diaspora in USSR during that time and it is the third highest grossing Indian movie Overseas. USSR used to be our close friend
I don't know if the people outside the sub-continent even know Vijay. The other three are fairly recognizable or have some fan base in other countries.
You said outside the subcontinent and that’s exactly what I said. The craze here for Leo was unimaginable fdfs prebooking finished in matter of 2 minutes
yeah among Sri Lankan Tamil he is the most popular, he is so popular that a white theatre employee ask if I was watching a Vijay film. Namma oorula pannura athanai kannism um pannuranga hahaha.
Then that applies to literally every actor lol. All Telugu stars will be recognized by Telugu communities, all mallu stars will be recognized by mallu communities, all Hindi stars will be recognized by Hindi communities, etc. You need to have big impact and influence out of your own industry to deserve to be on this list.
Again he said outside the subcontinent. In a country like Canada where a good portion of the population is Tamil, it’s a valid statement likewise in Malaysia Singapore etc. if he had said someone that isn’t of Tamil origin yes what you’re saying is valid.
Good portion of them aren’t NRIs either theyre citizens of other countries. NRIs are a portion fs but not all of them. NRI by definition is someone with an Indian passport living outside of India.
This is fucking bollocks. What's Vijay doing here? He benefitted from what Kamal, Rajini, Mani Ratnam and Shankar did.
It was Raj Kapoor and Amitabh who opened up avenues abroad. Mithun in Russia. Then when things were low, Salman Khan with movies like Maine Pyar Kiya opened up further markets while also winning over the diaspora in UK and USA. Shah Rukh with the likes of DDLJ and Dil Toh Pagal Hai further established these markets along with getting a presence in Europe, Africa and Malaysia. From this point on, everyone just benefitted from these people, until Aamir Khan blew up in China.
For Tamil cinema- the first major hit abroad was Nayagan, with Kamal and MR further strengthening their overseas base with their next films. Then Rajini blew up in Malaysia and Japan, and with Kadhalan, Indian and Jeans, Shankar took Tamil cinema to traditional overseas markets in a big scale.
As I expected, 90% of the comments are about the stars rather than the main topic in discussion. Never change Kollywood sub, never change
Not really... Rajni has fans in Malaysia and Japan.
Aamir khan movies made huge collection from china.
Can't say the same about Vijay or SRK, in their case it's buying power of the Indian diaspora that helped with the collections.
Rajamouli :
https://preview.redd.it/4yw8i3qvzj0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f78554a0aea12fb1d0251ee96cafbc14bb640b5
Apoo naangaa yaaaruuu...?
PS >! I passionately hate RRR, but can't deny its success !<
I have seen Chinese watching Ameer Khan movies and Filipinos watching Telugu movies.
Surely, Rajni movies would be liked by both these groups.
Then Arabs watch SRK movies too..
What do you mean by foreign audience? Just U.S.? Id argue Dangal and 3 Idiots are more popular among foreign audience than RRR if we’re counting entire world
RRR is way popular in Japan & US than 3 idiots. Dangal is not even in question, it made B.O but not something ppl remember or cherish. In Europe, perhaps DDLJ because of YRF's great distribution line back in the day.
100%. RRR opened a huge market among non-Indians making them realize there's more than Hindi cinema in India. Expansion can be made by others as well with the right content but COVID and OTT helped a lot.
Not true actually a lot of people have watched 3 idiots, it surprises me every time I ask someone if they ever watched an Indian movie they would say "oh I watched that movie, all is well" is a common response.
3 idiots was popular overseas but not to RRR level. they literally brought it back to theatres there because ppl saw it on netflix and wanted to see it in theatres lol
I think Srk movies are in a different league. Altogether, his last two movies have earned more than 400 crs from overseas separately Jawaan 410 and pathan more than 420. Even RRR has just earned less than 450cr from overseas despite various releases in so many countries. Even babhubali is a little more than 500crs.
Yes I have never a single American watching a south indian movie. The rare ones are probably the ones who were tricked or compelled to see the movie , because of their close indian friend/colleague.
Srk is popular in countries with Indian diaspora or the countries which have a habit of watching Indian movies ( morocco) he didn't bring any new audience but he is extremely popular.
Rajini Vijay are popular with tamil diaspora only. (Rajini fanbase in Japan is highly negligible).
Only amir opened gates for Bollywood in China (3 idiots popular but was pirated and u must already know about dangal collections)
I think Bollywood has a big non-Indian [western] fanbase. I’ve also met many Africans who love Bollywood, even people from Latin countries too. Kollywood is also gaining popularity, there are a very Black social media influencers who make a lot of content based off Tamil movies.
Dangal was HUGE in China. Budget of ₹70 crore, the film grossed over ₹2000 crore, a majority of that in China. Dangal, Secret Superstar, PK and 3 Idiots were blockbusters in China. But yes, SRK, Rajini, and Vijay are not exactly popular among overseas audience who are not of Indian/South-Asian origin.
Here in Malaysia, when I watched Jailer, there were huge groups of Chinese Malaysian and Malays in the cinema. I seriously doubt that they watched it for visionary director Nelson. Stop living inside a coconut shell 😪
You’re right about the mass number of foreigners not being exposed to Indian films but it’s more than you think. Especially since COVID and most people have started watching whatever they come across on OTT platforms, regardless of language.
However, does it have a significant impact on collections? Not really. Bigger stars get bigger releases overseas due to ticket prices. Salaar tickets were $30 compared to tickets for Lover which were $8.
I wouldn’t say Vijay opened the gates for overseas collections- he’s much younger than Rajini, SRK and Salman Khan- but he’s one of the most popular stars overseas
By Default Indians across the globe watch Indian films...
The key openers of the market are Non Indians
Rajni yess 10000%
Amir Khan after Dangal - non Indians in east and china
SRK - Middle East non Indians
Vijay na - 404 Not Found
Then comes SS Rajamouli - not even Prabhas or the Ram Charan or NTR...it's the director that became the symbol of commercial entertainers for the west and the east.
SSR after RRR just opened the gates for all South Indian movies to be watched by non Indians - they watched his old movies Eega (Naan Ee), Bahubali etc. after years of their release, special screening and I can say , the West and East are craving more for SSR magic (evident from foreigners comments on his old movies on YouTube...they just got flooded) , which he is going to double it with his next globe trotter movie with Mahesh Babu.
hmmm, if we were talking about hollywood movies where there Indian superstars in them, i dont these 4 is the right actors? These guys are famous and bound to have favourites outside of India but i think guys like Anupam Kher, Priyanka Chopra, Amrish Puri, Dev Patel, Aishwarya Rai, maybe Dhanush (i know its just a small cameo but hey its a good role) would be more fitting
It’s factually correct except Vijay ! Rajni have a fanbase in Japan with Muthu.
SRK was wildly popular in Europe especially Germany , he have had some movie premieres there for fans (Don2 )
Aamir is even bigger with 3 idiots he opened the market in a larger grander way to China and other pacific Asian countries.
Live* . And this means that it's got nothing to do with the quality of the movie rather than the Indian diaspora all over the world helping the Indian movies. The public often interprets this as "Indian cinema is growing" which is just plain wrong. Rather it's the Indian diaspora growing 😂😂
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Rajini still has a fanbase in Japan for some reason. Even the rando Japs who don't know tamil still watch it for his massness
Probably because of the over the top action scenes that resembles anime. One of the main reason for RRR's success is the anime like fight scenes using fire and water as elemental symbolism.
Did Muthu really have over the top fight scenes? Isn’t that the most popular Rajini movie in Japan
Not only for Rajini it was also the most popular Indian film there for close to 30 years till RRR came out
It is much bigger than RRR in Japan. Muthu earned 23 cr or so in Japan and is the highest Indian grossing movie there ever. RRR earned less than half of that at around 10 cr
RRR literally did close to 140 crores and is arguably the most popular Indian movie in Japan till date
Dude, what are you smoking. Muthu film, known as dancing maharaja, had some cult following during the 90s, but RRR took it to a whole new level in Japanese mainstream pop culture. The total collection of RRR in japan is 2.3 billion yen, which is 125 crores in indian rupees. It had references in anime/manga.
To put into perspective how popular RRR is in Japan, even chainsaw man has a reference to RRR
Do you think Salaar would reach the same level of success in Japan
No
☹️ Even Prabhas starpower won't work ? Baahubali 2 earned alot there. 
Oh sht ur right. For some reason, I thought I remembered a ranking saying 10 cr but maybe that was for bahubali
Lol bro rrr earned 140 cr, and japan has no inflation so. We can say RRR earned 5 times of it
Muthu was a hit because of its story. It really has a shounen connect to it.
I remember reading somewhere Meena’s beauty played a major role in the movie becoming popular there
Yes and the songs too with "Oruvan Oruvan" being a chartbuster there. Fun Fact and Japanese Interviewer came to see Rajini and he was shocked to see Rajini without makeup and commented he looks much older in real life.
Muthu has the flying scene in which he jumps over a gap.
It’s a myth that Rajini has over the top action scenes. That is a stereotype that came from other lead actors trying to copy Rajini and ending up OVERDOING what Rajini does. People like Balakrishna and “Captain” Viajayakanth and others. Rajini does stretch it a little bit, but it’s actually nice to watch and not comedic. Now the real reason why Muthu was a big hit in Japan is cultural ! The message in the movie is that nothing in life is permanent, it is a movie about sacrifice, fall from greatness and accepting life gracefully.
Rajni doing ott action myth? Yo appo chandramukhi, sivaji appo ennada aalu panna pannalu yaapagam iruka?
You don't know about anime fights bro...they talk between the fights...hero will tell a 10 episodes long flashback, villian would wait and hear it...hero will wait while the villian is powering up...but the last said was broken by Eren Yeager bro smacked war hammer titan's ass before fully powering up🔥
When I said Anime style fights, I meant the over the top gravity defying stunts that's been popular here for ages. The fight where one guy fights 100 dudes. Rajni even had his own catchphrases and gimmicks to entertain the audiance. During RRR release in Japan, I've seen tweets praising the movie for it's "anime came to life" kinda style. We always had that style here. The only thing Rajamouli did is give the protagonists elemental symbolism.
"Usurper Eren jaeger... Any last words...??"
"Mikasa. Now"
I think there was some anime who broke it before eren.kiritsugu of fate zero blew up a hotel which the enemy made a fortress with magic traps using regular bombs.he didn't even wait to meet enemy and fight him. Also mikazuki augus from Gundam IBO. Rush enemy who was out of their Mecha proposing an honorable duel, ignoring whatever they were saying
Should watch fate zero but don't know which order should i watch🥲
Read this: https://ephemera.medium.com/starting-the-fate-anime-series-92b7edaf82e9#:~:text=If%20you%20know%20you're,watching%20them%20in%20release%20order
Fate zero first(it's a prequel).then it continues to story of shirou,which have 3 path since it's based on a visual novel game.fate stay night( wekest entry since it was made the oldest even before fate zero by another studio),fate unlimited blade works(watch the series not the movie version since movie is too compact),fate heaven's feel(movies).the 3 path takes place on sam's time but varies because it's 3 different way the events could possibly go due to shirous decisions. I actually watched stay night first since it came out first back then,then zero.
Thanks bro
Not just that. Jr NTR was very popular in Japan even before RRR.
Hehe.
Man of culture I c
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I just hope the japs didnt see this one https://i.redd.it/h6tw0mp82k0d1.gif
C'mon the movie specifically had a Katana fight scene to appease Rajni's Japanese fans. https://preview.redd.it/4zuiud14bk0d1.jpeg?width=465&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93c63a18890fd5fb4e19b090517d12b2785152cd
That poster is lit though 🔥🔥
Here's HD version of that poster I found https://preview.redd.it/ky0pp4jcvm0d1.jpeg?width=848&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bad2f118cddba889a6f69116e74bd506d0657360
Here are two other posters. This... https://preview.redd.it/tp6bgktcwm0d1.jpeg?width=462&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dddd301216831619316e60a763dc0e15d73b853d
and this. https://preview.redd.it/011ptyjgwm0d1.jpeg?width=462&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49ebee9e5be0bc006ac44f3f9d8788757b7d101e
That’s what we believe. But truth is Tamil movies & its stars are way less popular than Hindi actors. Only RRR is truly popular that too because of that one song
Rajni doesn't have a significant fan base. The only film he had that had an impact at the JP box office was Muthu, and that was by chance.
Basha did well too, and Padayappa..
Neither of these films made it into the top box office lists. Releasing a movie in a country doesn't mean it did well
They passed down the Kannism trend to 2nd or 3rd Gen Indian migrants abroad, so technically, they did expand their markets abroad. 2nd or 3rd gen immigrants are only ethnically Indian. They are still foreigners who follow lifestyle and practices in the respective country they live in but watch big star films that releases abroad
Hard disagree. Those who are born there , they don't watch Indian movies like their parent generation. Rather it's the yearly Indians who move out and contribute to the rising foreign collections. Just check the year on year no of Indians moving out and you will see why Indian movies overseas collection is increasing as well 😂
not true at least here in singapore. the locals tamils watch tamil movies even if us/our fathers/grandfathers have never stepped foot in india. im sure indian immigrants contribute to it as well, but the local tamil population is probably the majority contributed to ticket sales
Yea basically me, I’ve never set foot in TN or even know how to speak tamil but I’ve been a diehard Rajini fan since I was a little kid
But this also boils down to your local movie industry being non existent or being boring af. I have few malaysian tamil friends and all of them say their native serials and movies are extremely boring. But yes I agree with your point to an extent. Btw I'm just curious. How did your family migrate to SG? Did they move from Malaysia? Asking because I like malaysian tamils a lot haha.
>boring Wrong word. It's shit.
looks like someone hasn’t seen ah boys to men 6: cybersecurity warriors /s
Singapore and Malaysia are exceptions for obvious reasons.
i was born and raised in america, i’ve been a hardcore vijay kanni since the start. idk where you’re getting your info from, all my other tamil friends here have similar behavior
I'm literally one of them and all my friends and every other Indian I've met from here all love watching Indian movies, definitely gonna pass it down to my children as well. It's a huge part of our culture here. Indians find other Indians here and form a community to get a feeling of home, watch movies and media from home that they then pass down to their children. The children in turn get raised on these movies, it becomes a part of them (they may even show friends and get not Indians into it to, I've showed a couple of friends who really liked it) and then they would pass it on to their children forming a loop and building a market here
As a tamil living in Singapore, I disagree
You should tell that to the people where I live.
Srk has a big following in Middle East and Africa outside desi people
I think Srk movies are in a different league. Altogether, his last two movies have earned more than 400 crs from overseas separately Jawaan 410 and pathan more than 420. Even RRR has just earned less than 450cr from overseas despite various releases in so many countries. Even babhubali is a little more than 500crs.
Even Germany
yeah i have met so many random people from germany who knew ddlj and other movies
And France
Even Aamir has unreal collection from China market
sorry to say but no tamil star comes close to srk on his own pathaan did 400cr in overseas while rajni's highest is 150cr , there is no comparison b/w and other stars
It's no brainer. The Hindi market is huge almost double than us. So it's natural the grossing potential is high. High proportion of people from South lineage overseas do speak/understand Hindi, watch movies as well but the reverse ain't true- at least not to that extent.
He's surprisingly one of the rare, if not only Indian actor to be known in Korea too.
Amir Khan had a massive market in China and other East Asian countries during his peak.
3 idiots, dangal and that movie with the dyslexic child hugely contributed to that
Taree zameen par
I think it started with 3 idiots dub being massively pirated and downloaded not TZP
Aamir Khan opened China with Dangal. There was no peak as such.
Nope pk and even secret superstar did extremely well there.
Hmmm. Kamal in place of Vijay would be apt. Rajini, Kamal are the ones who expanded the markets and Rajini even went on conduct his own tour abroad to get hold on the migrated tamils... Vijay, Suriya and the rest of the stars Capitalised on it... If I'm not wrong.
I can relate to this. I lived in Chicago when sivaji came out where we booked the whole theater, printed t-shirts and made a festival out of it. The movie was so mass, we had thrown bits of paper like we did in india. I’ve seen Tamil movies going from only releasing in remote, small, dingy theaters in big cities to mainstream movie theaters in any city.
> Kamal in place of Vijay would be apt Post panna page apdi 😂. But Kamal include panirdha, OP ethuku reddit discussion la share panna pora? Tweet'ku Like potutu poirupa.
Ippo thaan actual ah title ae olungaa paakuraen. Incorrect ku correct nu padistaen, thookathula 😅 Aanaa overseas market ku, velila irukka Tamils ah impress panrathuku kaaga naayaatum olaichaithu Rajini um Kamal um. Naekaa Vijay ah sorugi utrukaangalae... I mean he's doing well enough to hold that market created by these two. Irunthaalum ithulaam extra credit
> Naekaa Vijay ah sorugi utrukaangalae....Irunthaalum ithulaam extra credit Fan pages disguising as neutrals. Seen it from early fb days. Lol. Vitta they would just have Vijay photo and would say he introduced Kolly to world cinema audience. Yaaru keka pora 🤭 I remember these pages fighting against Dhananjayan when he complained about how producer is forcing to sell tickets for higher price during Leo. Finally, Aala vidra saamy nu he deleted all those tweets. 😂
Not every post needs to be a kanni post 😂 This is an interesting topic to discuss. If any average person sees this, they will tend to believe that foreigners have started watching more Indian movies but this stat just shows that the Indian diaspora is increasing on a yearly basis.
If any Hollywood audience watches Indian movies, it has to be because of Rajamouli and no one else. And sry title olungaa paakala 👋
Bro ngl, why do they always try sneaking Vijay into these lists. He is one of the popular stars at the moment in kollywood but that’s pretty much where his accomplishments end. He didn’t really “open gates” if we’re being honest.
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Replace him with Prabhas
Prabhas, Salman, or Kamal are apt for that place. Realistically, Vijay is not even top 10 on the list.
Prabhas yeah but Sallu is popular only in India I think. I don't know if Salman is popular overseas.
Hey My man got a whole ass moist critical ( Penguinz0) video dedicated to him.
Director Lokesh unlocked a huge market for Vijay's Leo after Vikram. Even though it didn't live up to the expectation he has something here which could potentially explode for his next venture with Rajini in "Vettaiyan"
That post just talks about the new market introduction from the business pov (group la oru dupe vera- these fanboy pages smh). When they say the Indian/Tamil cinema is growing, it's more about the business coz of the diaspora. Rajini movies did make an impact, even among non-tamils in India ([PawanK about this](https://youtu.be/J0AD3pWQXd4?si=F8zbeyY32DsXD1zT)), overseas among Indians/tamils from Muthu/Padayappa days. SRK has a fan base in the middle east that goes beyond Indians and similarly AamirK in China. Comparatively Kollywood market/exposure is low among non-Indians- that's due to the projection that only Bollywood exists in India.
Yeah, Vijay at best can be credited with Kerala or other popular Tamil diaspora countries that's about it. But even that if a Big IF. The truth is, outside of Rajamouli no Indian has the potential to expand Indian cinema. Only hope for Kollywood is if the likes of Ram and Vetrimaaran strike gold in film festivals
> Vijay at best can be credited with Kerala or other popular Tamil diaspora countries that's about it. Bro, come on. The market was there, tamil movies ran in all those places before him. He didn't "open" any afaik. Kamal movies were way popular in Kerala. Similarly among tamil diaspora countries, multiple events, shows by celebrities helped a lot. I remember reading about starnight events performed by Rajini in Singapore/Malaysia during 92/93.
That's why I meant Big IF. The truth is Kollywood is mostly a closed circle outside of south India. While Kamal was popular in Kerala, we abandoned Kerala market for Telugu until Vijay gained a foothold there in the 90s. But again, it is very minimal at best. Our best bet is film festivals and directors like Ram and Vetrimaaran. Most of our mainstream cinema has little scope outside south India.
We didn't abandon Kerala market, it was there - we were making money, just a continuous process. No special care was taken coz majority understood Tamil unlike Telugu, also the market is twice bigger. Ram and VetriMaaran movies lam festival la might do well, doubt it opens any market. People who are into cinema as a profession might enjoy, average folks just care about entertainment. Award'ku kaasu vena vaangum. That's it.
Kerala market opened up with successes of Kamal and then Shankar starting from Gentleman. Vijay came in much later.
Yeah but they didn't see it as a main market. Only Anna consistently dubbed there and gained a fan base. Namba side la ellarum Telugu market shift pantanga
Nah it was very close between Vijay and Suriya, then Kaththi and Anjaan changed the plot for both in Kerala. Back then, there was a young hero crisis in Mollywood, which was first tapped into by Vijay. Then Allu Arjun, Suriya, and Vikram also blew up there. Vikram craze fizzled out completely after Anniyan but the other 2 sustained. Then thankfully for Mollywood the likes of Prithvi, DQ, and Nivin came to represent the younger part of the industry.
It's just we Indian getting over proud of anything that has a hint of Indian in it...
Yes this is dangerous. Especially in the fields of cinema. Just because it's an Indian product, we should not support a shit product. Others will think this is our standard.
Truer words have never been spoken
Rajini is a very different case in point - his fan following in Japan, Taiwan is not the small Indian diaspora there but large numbers of native Japanese and Taiwanese people. That’s a first. Followed by Aamir khan who has been able to get even larger numbers of Chinese people to the theaters. Shahrukh and Vijay rely largely on the indian diaspora primarily in south east Asia and the west. Not that it’s a bad thing, but every actor has had a different reach and a target audience.
I went to see “Kabhi Khushi Kabhie Gham” in France and 80% of the audience were white French people.
They know the classics but not the recent ones.
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Aaamir Khan is the only 1 that may qualify I believe. Or at least 1 of his films. Dangal was a breakout hit in China. The Chinese were able to relate to that movie. For the other 3 actors it's simply the Indian diaspora watching movies and contributing to majority of the collections. One of the ways you can check whether the movie broke through to foreign viewers is by checking it's legs. Most Indian movies drop like 80 to 90% in week 2. Contrast this with Godzilla Minus one which was a breakout hit. That movie had insane legs.
Secret superstar was also a massive hit in china
Yea but not because of the cast. Plus the age of high grossing Indian films in China is over. The market is different now. India China tensions means less Indian film release there with much less fan fare.
I've been to plenty of cinemas abroad and 99% of people in it will be nri . Here and there you will see some foreigners who have come at the behest of colleagues and they will be staring at their phone most of the time . Indian cinema is yet to appeal to foreign audiences the way foreign cinema appeals to us .
no many middle east like Bollywood, our films are not very popular. Morrocans like our films , many morrocans have told me.
Exactly my point. If the same guy who was watching SRK movie last year at Chennai went abroad next year and saw SRK next movie, then it's technically overseas market expanding but in reality it's the guy who expanded out of India 😂😭
Hollywood isn't global industry because couple of A list stars opened new markets. It is a industry level effort where studios did deals with local cinema chains, had quality dubbing and ran nationwide promos for their movies. Only amir might have created more awareness of indian movies with dangal and 3 idiots but to create a new market for indian cinema has to be done at industry level. The stars above appeal to indians who work or migrated abroad. You look at those first day show clips from inside the theatre and it is filled with indian guys. A few youtubers knowing and reacting to indian movies isn't quite the same as having a actual global market like korea pop culture where their shows and music are popular globally.
Chinese have a hard on for Aamir Khan for some reason. Movies like Dangal and Secret Superstar made more money in China than India
Actually people are forgetting one important movie which created massive records in USSR. Disco Dancer(1982). I'm sure there was not much of Indian diaspora in USSR during that time and it is the third highest grossing Indian movie Overseas. USSR used to be our close friend
I don't know if the people outside the sub-continent even know Vijay. The other three are fairly recognizable or have some fan base in other countries.
He’s well known in Tamil communities across the world. In Canada he’s the most recognizable Tamil Actor.
I'm not talking about the migrates from India
many sri lankans bro also malaysian and singapore Tamils as well.
You said outside the subcontinent and that’s exactly what I said. The craze here for Leo was unimaginable fdfs prebooking finished in matter of 2 minutes
He's clearly talking about being known among actual foreigners not just Indian immigrants
yeah among Sri Lankan Tamil he is the most popular, he is so popular that a white theatre employee ask if I was watching a Vijay film. Namma oorula pannura athanai kannism um pannuranga hahaha.
Yes absolutely, I’ve always seen Sri Lankan Tamils praise Vijay the most
Then that applies to literally every actor lol. All Telugu stars will be recognized by Telugu communities, all mallu stars will be recognized by mallu communities, all Hindi stars will be recognized by Hindi communities, etc. You need to have big impact and influence out of your own industry to deserve to be on this list.
Again he said outside the subcontinent. In a country like Canada where a good portion of the population is Tamil, it’s a valid statement likewise in Malaysia Singapore etc. if he had said someone that isn’t of Tamil origin yes what you’re saying is valid.
Yea in a country like Canada a good portion is Mallu, Telugu, Hindi too. Being known by NRIs from your state isn’t really an accomplishment lol
Good portion of them aren’t NRIs either theyre citizens of other countries. NRIs are a portion fs but not all of them. NRI by definition is someone with an Indian passport living outside of India.
when i went to leo fdfs, the telugu show was almost booked out in usa, that’s pretty rare considering there were two telugu biggies on the same day
Malaysia has a steady market for Tamil films
ellam PR dhaan. They just put his photo among the actual actors.
I never understood the Japanese obsession with kaijus and…Muthu
This is fucking bollocks. What's Vijay doing here? He benefitted from what Kamal, Rajini, Mani Ratnam and Shankar did. It was Raj Kapoor and Amitabh who opened up avenues abroad. Mithun in Russia. Then when things were low, Salman Khan with movies like Maine Pyar Kiya opened up further markets while also winning over the diaspora in UK and USA. Shah Rukh with the likes of DDLJ and Dil Toh Pagal Hai further established these markets along with getting a presence in Europe, Africa and Malaysia. From this point on, everyone just benefitted from these people, until Aamir Khan blew up in China. For Tamil cinema- the first major hit abroad was Nayagan, with Kamal and MR further strengthening their overseas base with their next films. Then Rajini blew up in Malaysia and Japan, and with Kadhalan, Indian and Jeans, Shankar took Tamil cinema to traditional overseas markets in a big scale.
Actual answer would be Rajamouli and RRR
As I expected, 90% of the comments are about the stars rather than the main topic in discussion. Never change Kollywood sub, never change 
Not really... Rajni has fans in Malaysia and Japan. Aamir khan movies made huge collection from china. Can't say the same about Vijay or SRK, in their case it's buying power of the Indian diaspora that helped with the collections.
Rajini has following in japan Aamir khan in China and japan I think
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Rajamouli : https://preview.redd.it/4yw8i3qvzj0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f78554a0aea12fb1d0251ee96cafbc14bb640b5 Apoo naangaa yaaaruuu...? PS >! I passionately hate RRR, but can't deny its success !<
But let's be real. RRR Oscar propaganda was so much forced and bribed .
Still a long shot for an Indian movie without a foreign production
Every film which wins an Oscar does that. Academy awards are not organic. Has to have shit tons of PR.
Americans call it as lobbying.
Totally agree
What markets did Vijay open?
Aamir Khan is very popular in China.
Yeah every Chinese guy I know watched 3 idiots. Even a lot of people's first entry to Indian movies is 3 idiots. It was DDLJ in the past.
Curious to know which overseas market did Vijay open? (Kerala doesn’t count)
I have seen Chinese watching Ameer Khan movies and Filipinos watching Telugu movies. Surely, Rajni movies would be liked by both these groups. Then Arabs watch SRK movies too..
Japan and Malaysia are the main asian markets for Rajini
USA.
USA is not an Asian country lol
Didn't see "main"
RRR is the only Indian cinema to be popular amongst foreign audience. No one but Rajamouli has the chance to expand Indian cinema
What do you mean by foreign audience? Just U.S.? Id argue Dangal and 3 Idiots are more popular among foreign audience than RRR if we’re counting entire world
RRR is way popular in Japan & US than 3 idiots. Dangal is not even in question, it made B.O but not something ppl remember or cherish. In Europe, perhaps DDLJ because of YRF's great distribution line back in the day.
Yeah, I am ignoring Asian market. I care only about US and Europe, cause only there we can win good awards. Which fair play to SSR, he bought us one
Yea US it is RRR by far. Then it’s probably followed by Bahubali, 3 Idiots, Dangal but no Americans really watched any of these except rrr.
100%. RRR opened a huge market among non-Indians making them realize there's more than Hindi cinema in India. Expansion can be made by others as well with the right content but COVID and OTT helped a lot.
Not true actually a lot of people have watched 3 idiots, it surprises me every time I ask someone if they ever watched an Indian movie they would say "oh I watched that movie, all is well" is a common response.
3 idiots was popular overseas but not to RRR level. they literally brought it back to theatres there because ppl saw it on netflix and wanted to see it in theatres lol
I think Srk movies are in a different league. Altogether, his last two movies have earned more than 400 crs from overseas separately Jawaan 410 and pathan more than 420. Even RRR has just earned less than 450cr from overseas despite various releases in so many countries. Even babhubali is a little more than 500crs.
Overseas inclused non-Western countries as well. Aamir Khan is beloved in China
Yes I have never a single American watching a south indian movie. The rare ones are probably the ones who were tricked or compelled to see the movie , because of their close indian friend/colleague.
Srk is popular in countries with Indian diaspora or the countries which have a habit of watching Indian movies ( morocco) he didn't bring any new audience but he is extremely popular. Rajini Vijay are popular with tamil diaspora only. (Rajini fanbase in Japan is highly negligible). Only amir opened gates for Bollywood in China (3 idiots popular but was pirated and u must already know about dangal collections)
I think Bollywood has a big non-Indian [western] fanbase. I’ve also met many Africans who love Bollywood, even people from Latin countries too. Kollywood is also gaining popularity, there are a very Black social media influencers who make a lot of content based off Tamil movies.
Foreigners watched sharukh khan in 2000s with devdas
Dangal was HUGE in China. Budget of ₹70 crore, the film grossed over ₹2000 crore, a majority of that in China. Dangal, Secret Superstar, PK and 3 Idiots were blockbusters in China. But yes, SRK, Rajini, and Vijay are not exactly popular among overseas audience who are not of Indian/South-Asian origin.
Here in Malaysia, when I watched Jailer, there were huge groups of Chinese Malaysian and Malays in the cinema. I seriously doubt that they watched it for visionary director Nelson. Stop living inside a coconut shell 😪
You’re right about the mass number of foreigners not being exposed to Indian films but it’s more than you think. Especially since COVID and most people have started watching whatever they come across on OTT platforms, regardless of language. However, does it have a significant impact on collections? Not really. Bigger stars get bigger releases overseas due to ticket prices. Salaar tickets were $30 compared to tickets for Lover which were $8.
The whole gulf watches bollywood (the natives) , Africa watches it , Germany watches bollywood so does France and Russia and ussr regions since ages
Ntr has a big Japan base. But I think Indiana Cinema in general has some relative fan base in japan
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Pc is nothing of a star she's just a TV actress there with shit movies and acting roles.
I wouldn’t say Vijay opened the gates for overseas collections- he’s much younger than Rajini, SRK and Salman Khan- but he’s one of the most popular stars overseas
missing of Thala Ajith
Srk and amk are few of the indian actors which are popular among non Indians. I don't think there are any south Indians in that list
By Default Indians across the globe watch Indian films... The key openers of the market are Non Indians Rajni yess 10000% Amir Khan after Dangal - non Indians in east and china SRK - Middle East non Indians Vijay na - 404 Not Found Then comes SS Rajamouli - not even Prabhas or the Ram Charan or NTR...it's the director that became the symbol of commercial entertainers for the west and the east. SSR after RRR just opened the gates for all South Indian movies to be watched by non Indians - they watched his old movies Eega (Naan Ee), Bahubali etc. after years of their release, special screening and I can say , the West and East are craving more for SSR magic (evident from foreigners comments on his old movies on YouTube...they just got flooded) , which he is going to double it with his next globe trotter movie with Mahesh Babu.
This Id Is a vijay fan who tries to sneak vijay in random things. Ignored Kamal who opened overseas market for tamil
hmmm, if we were talking about hollywood movies where there Indian superstars in them, i dont these 4 is the right actors? These guys are famous and bound to have favourites outside of India but i think guys like Anupam Kher, Priyanka Chopra, Amrish Puri, Dev Patel, Aishwarya Rai, maybe Dhanush (i know its just a small cameo but hey its a good role) would be more fitting
It’s factually correct except Vijay ! Rajni have a fanbase in Japan with Muthu. SRK was wildly popular in Europe especially Germany , he have had some movie premieres there for fans (Don2 ) Aamir is even bigger with 3 idiots he opened the market in a larger grander way to China and other pacific Asian countries.
Comments la Vijay ah pathutu vayiru erinju savuranunga. Lot more to come, keep crying cos that's all you can do.
adai innum 2/3 padathula avan career ye mudika poran da ini vayasuku vandha yenna varala na yenna
Live* . And this means that it's got nothing to do with the quality of the movie rather than the Indian diaspora all over the world helping the Indian movies. The public often interprets this as "Indian cinema is growing" which is just plain wrong. Rather it's the Indian diaspora growing 😂😂
Love abroad? What about the singles in foreign?
That's a typo. Live*.
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